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Yudhaikeledai In reply to MelbyTheWolf [2011-10-26 05:23:52 +0000 UTC]

Knock knock... Don't you read the description? Please read the description...
The one in the middle is Cuddles while the one at the far right (if he is the one you thought as being a hamster) is buddhist monkey.

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MelbyTheWolf In reply to Yudhaikeledai [2011-10-27 09:04:37 +0000 UTC]

jajaja sorry i did'nt reconized all of them XD

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Yudhaikeledai In reply to Natsvaermeren [2011-10-23 14:34:19 +0000 UTC]

An SMAC fan Brony?!? Alright, now we're talking!
Eeyup, I've put up plans to work on this A Pony - SMAC crossover
You know, I need your advice, what are your opinion on which pony is which? Cause I visioned that Zakharov, Deidre, Morgan, and Santiago is easy to pair up with (Twilight, Fluttershy, Applejack and Rainbow repectively), while Lal can be somepony like Luna or Celestia. Now Pinkie and Rarity, I had much trouble as they both doesn't fit as Chairman Yang, nor Sister Miriam... You have any opinions on this?

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Natsvaermeren In reply to Yudhaikeledai [2011-10-23 16:35:01 +0000 UTC]

Well, I think you're spot on with the first four, but I understand your troubles with Pinkie and Rarity. I really have no idea how to fit them in.

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Yudhaikeledai In reply to Natsvaermeren [2011-10-23 16:41:50 +0000 UTC]

Hmmm... Perhaps the SMAC-X factions... Nautilus Pirates? Nah, too argh matey (Pinkie perhaps?) The Cybernetic and the Data Angels would certainly be out of the question... Free Drones is not in, neither does Cult of Planet...
Well, I do think that if we shift the "Religion" to "Tradition or Culture," both are not much of a difference at some aspects, somehow Rarity can fit in (I can imagine Rarity shouting "We must Dissent!" ) What do you think?
The Hive and Pinkie... Gotta modify the Hive, but in what way?

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Natsvaermeren In reply to Yudhaikeledai [2011-10-23 17:02:56 +0000 UTC]

I could see Rarity as a fashion-obsessed leader of a renamed "Believers" group. Perhaps the name could be "Prophets of Fashion"?
As for Pinkie Pie, as I see her she just wants everypony to share and be happy. The ideals of the Data Angels is freedom of information, thus sharing. The group could be renamed to "Party People - Free cupcakes for all!" (The long name because Pinkie does not comfort! )

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Yudhaikeledai In reply to Natsvaermeren [2011-10-23 17:15:59 +0000 UTC]

Ah, Genius! Fashion obsessed... So something like Disciples of... I don't know, Fashion? Sounds a bit cheesy Disciples of Culture / Convention? Or as you said, seems like Prophets of "Insert synonym to Fashion here" would also work
Pinkie's a Data Angel Free... Free... Freedom? Sharing? Something like Democrazy or Suffrage? Party People sounds great, not to mention the pun (as Party can mean a group of people/faction while also mean "Party" in general, I'll also look for other available naming options as for the while). Looks like I'll be using these Thank you for your advice! (starts working on the crossover)

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Natsvaermeren In reply to Yudhaikeledai [2011-10-23 17:31:06 +0000 UTC]

You're very welcome! ^^
Hey, another name idea! "Pinkie Pie Party People"!

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Amenapous In reply to masonicon [2011-10-28 07:49:08 +0000 UTC]

OBVIOUSLY world war three would wipe UN from the face of the earth only remains would be the Nuclear wasted NYC metropolis area

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Yudhaikeledai In reply to CaccoXL [2011-10-08 10:36:39 +0000 UTC]

That's one for Lumpy!
The game is very good, if not rather extremely complex. Its an old game from the 1998

As for their full names...
Indeed
Hahahaha! Somehow I checked up the name for Cunningham recently... And guess what? [link]
The name ACTUALLY means "Rabbit's Home." What a coincindence

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CaccoXL In reply to Yudhaikeledai [2011-10-10 22:05:38 +0000 UTC]

I should search for it.
Ho ho, so we're dealing with a mac!

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Yudhaikeledai In reply to 14-Spades [2011-10-08 03:06:12 +0000 UTC]

No prob, just asking for people's opinion on this so an elaborate answer is not needed

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Amenapous In reply to AnarchisThinker [2011-10-28 07:51:36 +0000 UTC]

actually this is 2060 laptops would have the motto of "coal sucking C20 exhaling bitches" they would probley use Mind Computers (holograms)

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TheBronywholikesGTA In reply to Amenapous [2012-06-29 12:30:21 +0000 UTC]

YOUR A NUT, NOW get off this page

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AnarchisThinker In reply to Amenapous [2011-10-28 07:56:51 +0000 UTC]

Oh yeah.

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Amenapous In reply to AnarchisThinker [2011-10-28 08:57:10 +0000 UTC]

that would be in your opinion the holographic laptops were basically based off the ones on Avatar

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Yudhaikeledai In reply to AnarchisThinker [2011-10-08 03:04:11 +0000 UTC]

Interesting insight True, the values being hold by the imaginary factions here are mostly extreme in one way or another, except for the Peacekeepers who are quite moderate over everything (Jack of all trades?). Which makes for an interesting choice when you're trapped on a planet and have to make choices (making the idea of going moderate with everything easier said than done)

Me personally, would be torn between Gaia's Stepdaughters and the Peacekeepers. Or just probably, Lord's Believers, although their fundamentalist attitude towards their culture and religion would make it a bit extreme on a note.

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AnarchisThinker In reply to Yudhaikeledai [2011-10-08 03:39:23 +0000 UTC]

Yes to that. One side against the other. Truthfully, I lean slightly more towards the Peacekeeping Force, the University of Planet and Astro Industries. XD The most towards the very former.

"Me personally, would be torn between Gaia's Stepdaughters and the Peacekeepers."

So, moderate environmentalism? Because that's actually how I figure on your position. Personally, if I followed this here, I'm a moderate technologist capitalist. XD I just prefer to be called a libertarian or anarchist though, but those may not fit into any of the factions due to them having some form of governing power.

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Yudhaikeledai In reply to AnarchisThinker [2011-10-08 03:51:13 +0000 UTC]

Yep, moderate . I am an environmentalist, although in that sense, I view it in a pragmatic way. I believe that there are steps that could be taken to preserve the environment so that the humankind can continue on living on Earth as they know it without any of the environmental problems faced (and I try to follow that steps), but in one way some ways of life today just can't be forced to change in order to go full green. So in that sense if I have to go with one (which is the situation there at Chiron), I'll go with the peacekeepers.
I can see that you put an emphasis in productivity, capital and technological growth is it? Fair enough to me I guess most people would resort to being moderate as in theory, that is arguably the best possible option. Although I cannot see why people wouldn't want to pick on the more specialised factions when it comes to certain situations as being moderate also has its problems in terms of implementation

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AnarchisThinker In reply to Yudhaikeledai [2011-10-08 03:59:11 +0000 UTC]

For the first paragraph, yes.

"I can see that you put an emphasis in productivity, capital and technological growth is it?"

Yeah, kinda. Btw, did you know some people are now making prototypes for artificial trees that can achieve a thousand times what normal trees can? XD It's not a pretty sight, but it's a far better alternative than having giant acres of land taken by forests. Rainforests, I don't mind due to the lackluster discovery of the majority of species there. Temperate forests have already been scouted through, though, again and again and again.

" I guess most people would resort to being moderate as in theory, that is arguably the best possible option."

Yup. Alot of people like to pick sides in theory. Hell, to almost anybody, communism of the 20th century kinda lead by proponents like Stalin, Mao and Hitler sound good in theory.

"Although I cannot see why people wouldn't want to pick on the more specialised factions when it comes to certain situations as being moderate also has its problems in terms of implementation "

Like my temperate forest example, perhaps. XD We already know about how to do tree farms, we can. We have the resources, animals also don't mind living in secondary forests. But the Gaia's Stepdaughters probably would reject such a notion to prevent Gaia's destruction in the first place, even if the trees will grow back anyway, even if the animals aren't picky in living in such conditions.

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Yudhaikeledai In reply to AnarchisThinker [2011-10-08 04:15:02 +0000 UTC]

Hmmm, even with all the practical reasons on these artificial trees, I still do believe that real trees are still the real deal. When we're talking about a whole ecosystem instead of only pollution, we can see how real trees are having the upper branch against the artificial ones, and humans needed that ecosystem. Instead of taking a beeline of cutting down trees to change trhem with artificial ones (which will destroy the delicate balance of the ecosystem and the whole biosphere), It would be much better to put them in areas where pollution problematic, or perhaps put the in empty areas that are also rendered unusable for humans (including the brushlands? deserts? the poles?). Its a double win situation in that case.

As for your third response regarding specisalisation, I'm not only referring to the Gaias but to the choice as a whole. You're right with that statement of them actually rejecting the notion of destroying Earth in the first place: they learnt it the hard way from what happened to Earth. But other factions also have this in mind. The University of Planet will go with technology and disregard ethics as they have learned that back then, sometimes going against the moral code will help humans to proceed forward and survive, which is the creed of their faction. Others like the Spartans believe that power and foothold is the one that allows them to survive the wilderness of Chiron.

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AnarchisThinker In reply to Yudhaikeledai [2011-10-08 04:26:23 +0000 UTC]

"It would be much better to put them in areas where pollution problematic, or perhaps put the in empty areas that are also rendered unusable for humans (including the brushlands? deserts? the poles?). Its a double win situation in that case."

Those might be good places, though I think we'd need the peagusus ponies to shift clouds by then. XD Or maybe moar technologiez to get the clouds to go there.

"You're right with that statement of them actually rejecting the notion of destroying Earth in the first place: they learnt it the hard way from what happened to Earth."

Yes, and like I said, they'd not be accepting anything regarding a destruction in the environment.

"But other factions also have this in mind. The University of Planet will go with technology and disregard ethics as they have learned that back then, sometimes going against the moral code will help humans to proceed forward and survive, which is the creed of their faction."

Not humans, animals. XD And I think that their utopia will be individualised housing with all the technologies needed to survive in those housing. Along with all the equipment to help them make new technologies for that purpose.

"Others like the Spartans believe that power and foothold is the one that allows them to survive the wilderness of Chiron."

Ergo the forests, I think. Maybe the Lord's Believers also think that nature might have a connection with their religion, while the Astro Industries would be too well aware about the resources underground.

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Yudhaikeledai In reply to AnarchisThinker [2011-10-08 04:38:54 +0000 UTC]

Somebody called the weather team?
Not necessarily areas with lots of clouds actually, carbon dioxide is an invisible gas that (eh, knowing that you are very knowledgeable in this, I guess I didn't need to go on too much details on this ) Well basically, it fills up the atmosphere so there is little connection to clouds. Or if we're talking those industrial debris or smokestacks, why don't we install those in Industrial parks for an added green solution?

The Lord Believers would be something that goes like: there is a greater power that will lead them in their endeavours in Chiron. To add on, they stick to traditions on Earth, meaning that they wish not to change much with their way of life.
And the Astro Industries would survive on trade, as not all factions are totally at odds with each other. They might hate the Gaians but that doesn't mean their relations with the Spartans and the University is hostile. And to add on, productivity rate means growth for them, and the introduction to capitalism allows them to build a faction similar to how developed nations today survives.

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AnarchisThinker In reply to Yudhaikeledai [2011-10-08 04:52:55 +0000 UTC]

"Well basically, it fills up the atmosphere so there is little connection to clouds. Or if we're talking those industrial debris or smokestacks, why don't we install those in Industrial parks for an added green solution?"

Meh, was talking on percipitation.

"The Lord Believers would be something that goes like: there is a greater power that will lead them in their endeavours in Chiron. To add on, they stick to traditions on Earth, meaning that they wish not to change much with their way of life."

Oh, yeah. Didn't think on that level. XD

"And the Astro Industries would survive on trade, as not all factions are totally at odds with each other. They might hate the Gaians but that doesn't mean their relations with the Spartans and the University is hostile."

Especially since they'd be able to produce those tanks and technologies at cheap, cheap rates for them. :3

"And to add on, productivity rate means growth for them, and the introduction to capitalism allows them to build a faction similar to how developed nations today survives."

Actually, if capitalism meant little government intervention in business, then many countries fail on that level. America has many regulations on the education system, even in its own public system, along with every other 'developed' nation having a universal healthcare system. Of course, these countries are all suffering a lack of growth in many areas because countries like India and China are reducing regulations. Except for China's Beijing Olympics, though. XD

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Yudhaikeledai In reply to AnarchisThinker [2011-10-08 05:12:34 +0000 UTC]

(Its quite fun and productive having a discussion in this kind of manner towards views and ideology I gotta thank you for sharing your thoughts with me, allows people to look through different perspectives )

"if capitalism meant little government intervention in business, then many countries fail on that level"
Its not like that, it is more controlled, as the faction would realise that total freedom in that kind would only lead to companies taking all they have without contributing to the faction as a whole (disaster in a foreign environment like Chiron if you only care for yourself). You're totally right about too much freedom in that case

P.S. Talking about that Universal Healthcare system, the US has been known to be the worst place to have an illness, with those insurance companies not willing to assist those who didn't fit the requirement stated in their contract, and insurance companies will always look for loopholes to not pay your insurance, according to a documentary. Other countries with universal healthcare even if its difficult to implement does help much (and better) in terms of keeping citizens healthy. As for Singapore, I don't know much about medisave, but it seems to help quite much (I don't know much about it, I'm a foreigner studying in S'pore )

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AnarchisThinker In reply to Yudhaikeledai [2011-10-08 05:22:35 +0000 UTC]

"Its not like that, it is more controlled, as the faction would realise that total freedom in that kind would only lead to companies taking all they have without contributing to the faction as a whole (disaster in a foreign environment like Chiron if you only care for yourself). You're totally right about too much freedom in that case "

Nah, I'm actually the kinda guy that might want to have the most freedom possible. However, I don't think it would lead to that, due to the companies having to pay employees and it only takes one company paying a bit more for the other companies to start bidding against that company, up until a reasonable chunk of their revenue goes to it. XD But of course, that's your thinking on the part of not contributing to the faction, though.

"P.S. Talking about that Universal Healthcare system, the US has been known to be the worst place to have an illness, with those insurance companies not willing to assist those who didn't fit the requirement stated in their contract, and insurance companies will always look for loopholes to not pay your insurance, according to a documentary."

Of course, the government is also partially assisting them with the lack of competition, like having state barriers, only allowing one organisation to control the doctors and tying health insurance to people's jobs.

"Other countries with universal healthcare even if its difficult to implement does help much (and better) in terms of keeping citizens healthy."

I personally think that it's actually mostly due to lifestyles, as someone mentioned once, if I remember, John Stossel. American's have a less healthy lifestyle than other nations, thus contributing more to the other nations having better lives and longer lifespans.

"As for Singapore, I don't know much about medisave, but it seems to help quite much (I don't know much about it, I'm a foreigner studying in S'pore )"

It's a bit like a compulsory HSA, or Health Savings Account, which is what I advocate somewhat, without compulsory in mind. It's when you deposit money inside from your job and when you need healthcare to take care, you take the money out of it. The rest of the money remains inside and collects interest. I remember Penn and Teller talking about it once when they mentioned a company that implemented this and the doctors started to lower medical prices since people were in charge of how much money they spent.

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Yudhaikeledai In reply to AnarchisThinker [2011-10-08 05:36:27 +0000 UTC]

"that's your thinking on the part of not contributing to the faction, though."
In part at least. We got quite an example on Earth with Trans National Companies taking much of the revenue and becoming much richer than the 3rd world countries in which they are operating at.
As for lifestyle, that could be correct. But if we took that out of the equation, and put accidents at the forefront, it will stay at least the same for the statistics. Costs a lot more to pay compared to one with universal healthcare.

"It's a bit like a compulsory HSA, or Health Savings Account, which is what I advocate somewhat, without compulsory in mind"
I see. At least that helps people manage their money when it comes to health related issues Always prepare for a rainy day they said

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AnarchisThinker In reply to Yudhaikeledai [2011-10-08 05:46:33 +0000 UTC]

"In part at least. We got quite an example on Earth with Trans National Companies taking much of the revenue and becoming much richer than the 3rd world countries in which they are operating at."

Guess that's the case, though I think most of the jobs always seem to go to China and India, though those two nations are mostly growing, along with their income for the mass majority of them. However, there are places where the companies go into the African nations and build factories there.

"As for lifestyle, that could be correct. But if we took that out of the equation, and put accidents at the forefront, it will stay at least the same for the statistics. Costs a lot more to pay compared to one with universal healthcare."

[link]
[link]

USA has 310 million people and about 6.24 million auto accidents.
Canada has 34 million people and about 150,000 auto accidents.
Canda has 9.11 times less population, but also 41.6 times less auto accidents.

(Please don't hate me for this)

"I see. At least that helps people manage their money when it comes to health related issues Always prepare for a rainy day they said"

Yup. And that also means that more people actually look at how much they spend. XD

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