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Published: 2014-03-02 15:54:02 +0000 UTC; Views: 12679; Favourites: 132; Downloads: 202
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SO. Because I got quite a few comments telling me how dumb I am for not thinking that Kojima's design was the best thing ever done, let me update my comment. The original one will be down at the bottom, unedited.
The original design on the left is a lazy, sexist and boring design job, and every possible explanation that was given for it (after I did this) is major bullshit.
Kojima was in all probability going for a controversial character, and later announcement that would have people talking about his new game. And of course it worked. I deeply regret that an apparent otherwise great game developer did such a poor job on an otherwise good character.
This is a fictional. Naked. Lady. For anybody telling me or themselves that something else than MASSIVE FANSERVICE is the reason for her nakedness, you are lying to yourselves and you know it. I mean, she even has figurines with soft bouncing boobs you can fondle, how great is that?
If such a weird condition exists (woohoo, that parasite can somehow detect her speaking English and make her self-destruct? That's quite high-tech) in that world, there would have been ways to be safe and covered anyway. Be it new types of fabric (I mean, we've already invented swimsuits that mimic sharkskin, invented self-cooling fabric, found out how to keep humans alive in space or even make them invisible) or just using already existing methods (light fabric? large clothes? NOT VACUUM-SEALED CATSUITS?)
He might have as well been honest and put her out there naked, if being covered put her in deadly danger of suffocating or being discovered.
tl;dr : This is a BORING, LAZY and SEXIST piece of shit design done for fanservice and merchandising purposes destined to 15 year old boys.
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Left is the original character design "Quiet" by Hideo Kojima, right is my redesign. So, a while back I stumbled over the character Quiet from Metal Gear V. The first time I saw her and the whole story about Kojima trying to justify his design with ever shittier arguments, I just got really really sad. Sad and angry actually. I think I can say without bragging too much that even with my lack of knowledge concerning army stuff and outfits, I did a better job than Kojima on this one. This can’t even be considered a redraw. It’s like starting a dress-up game from scratch.
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no that isnt how video games work as the main character started of not dressed like a 15 year old boys wet dream...
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and a strong argument can be made that its lazy, bland, and stupid. not that hard to see. and there "reasoning" given it to was also so. and yes that is how video games work. most games start you of with you character having freaking clothes on...not many start you off looking like a 12 yearolds dirty wet dream. its freaking stupid. and im allowed to think its stupid.
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Thank you !
Yes ! Her character is actually pretty interesting, if it weren't for the major design faux-pas and the explanations that followed.
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Oh! And I really like your design
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Thanks!
I read that she breaths through her skin and that that's why she's wearing that ridiculous outfit. Either way, everything sounds like bullshit to me; like you said, she's the only one that has to go around naked despite not being the only one affected by that weird "condition".
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You apparently haven't read my last sentence right, I invite you to look at it again, maybe slower this time.
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People always saying she wears so little clothes because she needs the sun. But there are male characters in the game who do the same and guess what, they are fully dressed :/. Strangely they don't die from wearing more than underwear.
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Not going to play it. So go on please.
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And you have done exactly as Kojima thought everyone would do. Judge her by her appearance and nothing else. Funny how she would die if she wasn't so exposed.
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Of course I did, because that's what he was going for and wanted.
Also : Fictional. Naked. Lady. Sounds HELL OF A LOT like MASSIVE fanservice to me. She even has figurines with soft bouncing boobs you can fondle, how great is that?
Again : she's a fictional character, in a fictional world, mate. If such a weird condition exists (woohoo, that parasite can somehow detect her speaking English and make her self-destruct? That's quite high-tech) in that world, there would have been ways to be safe and covered anyway. Be it new types of fabric (I mean, we've already invented swimsuits that mimic sharkskin, invented self-cooling fabric, found out how to keep humans alive in space or even make them invisible) or just using already existing methods (light fabric? large clothes? NOT VACUUM-SEALED CATSUITS?)
He might have as well been honest and put her out there naked, if being covered put her in deadly danger of suffocating or being discovered.
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I don't think you get what I mean.
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Well, your design is ok, but now that the game has come out it has explained why she wears what she wears and her choice of outfit does sense, if she wore the outfit you designed she would actually die.
Its just a perfect example of dont judge a book by its cover.
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I'm tired of those comments.
Fictional. Gratuitous naked. Lady. Sounds HELL OF A LOT like MASSIVE fanservice to me. She even has figurines with soft bouncing boobs you can fondle, how great is that?
Again : she's a fictional character, in a fictional world, mate. If such a weird condition exists (woohoo, that parasite can somehow detect her speaking English and make her self-destruct? That's quite high-tech) in that world, there would have been ways to be safe and covered anyway. Be it new types of fabric (I mean, we've already invented swimsuits that mimic sharkskin, invented self-cooling fabric, found out how to keep humans alive in space or even make them invisible) or just using already existing methods (light fabric? large clothes? NOT VACUUM-SEALED CATSUITS?)
He might have as well been honest and put her out there naked, if being covered put her in deadly danger of suffocating or being discovered.
Sure, at that point I had no idea that her tragic backstory would be one of being somehow infected with a weird parasite that turns her unable to breathe if she wears shorts and and a sleeveless shirt, but hey! At least she gets to wear fishnets and a non-practical piece of fabric as a bra (which in general opinion wouldn't stay in place for more than 45 seconds).
Then again, I appreciate a pretty woman like anyone else, but I can judge sexist unpractical game designs by their cover if I want to, especially if at some point I have time and/or breath to waste.
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Thank you, in this case canon justifies the design philosophy. So the canon Quiet lives, the other Quiet dies a slow horrific death of suffocation because she didn't have the common sense to chose living over modesty. In some cases, the explanation given actually does justify the design.
At the time of this being made, she seemed like she was just done for sex appeal, after the games come out...she actually is probably one of the better written characters with one of the more genuinely sympathetic backstories.
But hey, it's sexism because gasp a woman who shows off her body is obviously pandering to the male gaze, right?
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This is genuinely hilarious.
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quiet is half naked because she gets her power from the sun, you can only be sad and angry at your own ingnorance
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I never really felt strongly for any criticism of the outfit, but even still every time I see her I'm like 'At least give her some pants, you want the bikini top fine but come on'
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some how your redesign is much more alluring
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Empowerment is the greatest and most inspiring thing there is. In every possible sense of the word. Thanks!
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I prefer your version than the original one ! She looks bad ass !
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But when a man is portrayed like that no one bats an eye. Double standards.
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Ha.... hahaHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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I prefer your version i can'T even tell you why i just enjoy looking at your version more then at the "Original"
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From my point of view, it's not even that you might specifically envoy my version more. It's just that the original is so bad and disgusting that anything might seem a lot better than it.
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I agree with the controversy surrounding this character design. When she first appeared in the 2013 trailer. I was like, WTF Kojima/Shinkawa, what are you trying to pull, what is going on? Justifying this design with the reason for creating 'sexy' but not 'erotic' characters, that woman can be inspired to cosplay this character and sell figurines is bullshit and it is sexist and exploiting all women.
As an aspiring game designer, I admire and look out for strong female characters that don't act weak just so that a man can rescue them and is not existing just for the sake of love fodder and/or looking like a stripper. It's really jarring for me to see this character for what she is now, as if Quiet is luring me to play this game because of 'ZOMFG BOOBIES! MUST SEE MORE!". As a guy, I feel ashamed, manipulated and toyed with.
I'm really looking forward to this game and hoping to see an explanation about this design in the game (there'd better be). The MGS series is known for its ridiculous touches, despite its obsession with realism. Hideo Kojima, much respect to the guy, isn't really an amazing writer as demonstrated in the clusterf*** that is MGS4.
Your redesign is realistic and amazing. Love it!
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I believe you definitely have the right approach to all this, and I am happy to see that even if it seems to be a minority, some men also think that it is degrading and insulting for everyone. Thank you.
I mean, even creatively speaking, having to fit every possible female character into this one "sexy eye candy" box seems boring and really really restrictive, since you have to reduce everything to only a few options. Just imagine what movies and video games could be if female protagonists were not reduced to sex-objects in skimpy outfits that need to be saved/sacrificed and/or end up as trophy-wives. Give me originality! Queerness! Personality! Backstories!
(Wow, I'm so sorry for answering this late.)
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I would rather have the one on the left in the game.
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ITS NOT LAZY. All you did was make you're own design based on your ideals. There is reason behind why Quiet dresses the way she does and after you hear her story, you will regret the stupid things you've said of her or the design.
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Whatever her story is, I will definitely NOT regret saying that her design is a piece of shit.
Nobody's gonna make me believe that there's a backstory with perfect sense that would explain that a woman with a riffle is walking around with no more than a lousy piece of fabric to cover her nipples (which would slip at the tiniest movement) and crotch.
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Yeeeah see. If you had paid attention at all to what the producers were talking about you'd know and stop acting like a fucking child about it.
If you had paid attention you would have known that they said they needed something different. Something not done before because they had already filled the series with so much that they didn't want to clone more or have any more repeats.
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Like THIS is any different to what has been done before? I'm sorry, I am just really surprised you're serious.
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Yeah. I was quite serious about it. I've been watching all the videos they've released where they talk about the charries and why they do what they do. That and we'll understand when we know her story.
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Finally, someone who disagrees with this controversy. Also, sorry if this is past relevant with you. It's just that this controversy is getting out of control, and people are having a heart attack over her design when:
1): Other companies, including Konami itself, has made characters stripperiffic before in some shape or form and nobody had a heart attack over them. It'd be like trying to redesign Morrigan Aensland or Mai Shiranui, only two of the biggest video game sex symbols in the industry. It just doesn't work because they were meant to be designed that way.
2): Like you said, slut-shaming Quiet's useless because literally nobody knows why she is the way she is (or even why she's dressed like that) because THE GAME HAS NOT BEEN FINISHED AND RELEASED YET, EVERYONE.
And it baffles me that others AGREE with this redesign. Sure, let's go on ahead and give a character with a different design from everyone else a generic sniper garb because why the fuck not? Most illogical.
Thanks for providing some semblance of sanity here, dude. You made a good point.
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I never thought anyone would ever reply to that. XD But yeah, I agree with ya.
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Yeah, the official design is terribly lazy. Excellent job though!
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This is a prefect example of how ridiculous the perception of women in entertainment/games/design are! Kudos to you for pointing it out so clearly with this amazing piece of art (the image to the right (you wrote left twice 
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Thanks a lot!
Sometimes I'm appalled by what character designers come up with. Because alright, let's just admit that making a woman a bit sexier than needed is more interesting; do they have to go THAT FAR, and end up making no sense at all any more? I have troubles imagining that anybody could enjoy something looking so ridiculously stupid.
(Oh yeah, you're right!)
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