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This has been building for a while, it was bound to break eventually. Sans’s insecurities here are all things that have either been not-so-subtly implied to him (like here , here , here , here , or here ) or outright said to his face , and he’s also still haunted by how he was used to try and get Papyrus to kill something and how his most recent attempt to protect him ended in total failure . It wears on you. Papyrus has known about his "condition" since they were babybones but had no idea how deep his feelings about it ran.
(Way to not give him emotional issues , Gaster)
Papyrus has indeed had a scar on his neck since he had that neck brace . It may be hard to see at points but it’s there! He still has it in the future , even. And Sans did indeed tell Papyrus not to let Gaster get to him , haha. LOT OF BACKLINKS THIS ROUND
Sans is glowing a little bit of Papyrus's color there.
Edit - Check out Jamadubs' dub! (Spanish)
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To be fair, she doesn't pay attention to me because the seniors all need tons of help, the juniors do pretty well, and I, the only sophomore, "go on Khan Academy" because I already know all of the stuff she's teaching
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Oh gosh...my eyes got a little cloudy there... :'o
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Every single comic is the same kind of "cuddly" overdramatizations that go on and on about nothing.
The fact I had to switch front page from "most popular of 24h" to "most popular of 3 days" and still see this series up on front makes me deeply disturbed and dissapointed over the fucking fanbase of Undertale.
What people even clain to be crying over? A major emotional flip and moodswing of a fictional character that got a breakdown for just no reason at all?
I mean seriously dude, draw whatever the fuck you want but holy shit get off this edge already.
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I'm sorry you think this fandom is plotting against you. We are just showing appreciation for something we like. Divintart art is fully if great artist of all taste and styles. I'm sure with some searching you'll find a comic that suits your tast and you should promote it maybe show some voice actors on YouTube the comic and maybe they'll voice it if they like it. You can't really blame this community for showing the comic it's a automatic system. We love this comic and just as you would show your appreciation for something you like we are too.
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okay, somewhat I managed to struggle trough that grammar of yours and I got your point.
see, now this is a kind of approach people should learn from you.
I know nobody is plotting against me and nothing can be done about the overhaul alone. But like I said, since that happens anyway I might as well give it a piece of my mind. Since I was ignoring it for long enough.
And yes. I know of a lot of artists i like. I even have my own comic series with voiceactors. But the fact is that I wouldn't flip my shit and go nuclear if I saw a person disliking what I like.
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Well you can't really be angry at people for voiceing there opinion against you, as you keep saying "I'm just voiceing my opinion." We are too, i'm not sure what you expected to get. I'm going to assume your talking about others, because I thought I was being rather calm in my statement.
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I am indeed talking about others. And I did not say anything about being angry at other people's responses. And that's true, you don't know what I expect, lmao
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lol
Stop liking what i dont like! My oppinion is more important than everyone elses! For some reason i think my oppinion matters in the first place!
Your impotent rage amuses me haha
And its just gonna keep happening every time a new comic comes out, yesss, the schadenfreude is delicious.
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Oh man, I was just waiting for someone like you! Thought I won't get that.
So, basically, "haters gonna hate" amrite?
Because clearly +50 pages of asskissing is too little for anybody to appear with a differing opinion.
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Keep tilting at them windmills yo
I mean, you are smart enough to realise that 'opinions are like assholes, everyone has one ...' right?
you are also smart enough to realise that voicing a purely critical rather than constructive critical comment is not going to help anyone right?
You also are smart enough to realise that you wont change anyone's opinion of themselves, this comic series or the fandom right?
You are also smart enough to realise that this is not all some conspiracy to annoy you right?
You are also smart enough to realise that its not the authors or fandoms fault that an automated script chose to include these comics on its list right?
You are also smart enough to realise that you are asking for this automated script to read your mind and provide only the stuff you like is kind of dumb right?
And you are also smart enough to realise the irony of your post in the first place?
So, the real question is, why?
Why did you feel the need to post this ? What did you hope to acheive ?
I guess you just have a rather frustrating and anger inducing life so you gotta vent, in which case, im glad these comics are helping you do so in a safe manner
If you had another reason, im all for hearing it though!
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Damn son you put a lot of effort into this one.
Alright here we go:
- Yeah, everybody has their opinion and here's mine. So what's the problem?
- I'm not here to help anybody but to voice my opinion the way I like. So that's second thing out of question.
- Again, I'm not here to change anybody's opinion. I say what I like. Others either take it or not. And their approach to my comment doesn't make me an asshole. That's their and your choice.
- Yes, I realize that is not a conspiracy, I can take this one off your chest.
- I'm actually pretty sure it's fandom's fault to drive this comic on the front page everytime. It obviously wouldn't happen if it wasn't so popular, so that's another false coming from you.
- The only thing I asked for is to make the comic series less gay. As you could read in my comment, I was taking my own actions to ignore or avoid seeing this shit on my feed, whcih didn't work. So since I'm LITERALLY forced to look at it everytime, after a year I think it's fair to finally say what I think of it. The fact you or other people don't like it is your and your problem alone.
- I actually see no irony in my comment. What I see irony in is that you tell me to ignore something, while you couldn't even ignore my OPINION yourself.
I'm not even sure if I want to answer your "why" question, since you already make it sound like a problem, even though the question was pretty clearly explained in the start and in conversations with other people.
But my question to you is, with the amount of offenses, sarcasm and talking down to me, why do you choose good of a fanmade comic with fictional characters over an actual human being on the internet? Are you this biased and not able to separate the fiction from reality? I might come off as an asshole, but in fact I seem to have more human decency than you do, bud.
Well, this is the only long-ass message you're even getting from me. I'm actually putting more effore into you than I should, and definitely some stupid undertale comic is not where I want to spend so much energy.
But hey, still open on your response! I'm just not going to talk serious with you anymore, since I don't even see a reason I should take you seriously anymore, my realitycheck-missing pal.
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i did? huh, news to me. I think i spent more time reading your response than i did typing that.
(Since you seem to be answering stuff point by point i might as well do the same)
- I guess you never heard the end of that quote, well you can go look it up yourself heh
- You seem to contradict yourself frequently, im not quite sure you are being honest with what you say. Are you here to just state your oppinion (in a rather rude and insulting way for no reason), are you here to suggest medthods in which to make the comic 'less gay' or are you here to have a go at those you belive to be at fault for your horrendous first world problem of having a comic you dont like appear on a public page you dont own?
If you are telling thr truth and you are just here to give your oppinion, why did you need all that vitriol, why not just say "i dont like this comic and i think it is more popular than it deserves to be", and again, what did you think that would acheive ?
-case in point: "- Yes, I realize that is not a conspiracy, I can take this one off your chest.
- I'm actually pretty sure it's fandom's fault to drive this comic on the front page everytime. It obviously wouldn't happen if it wasn't so popular, so that's another false coming from you."
Which is it ? a consperiacy or not ? also who is this fandom person you keep refering to, i dont know of anyone by that user name. If you had not realised, fandoms are not hive minds, they are made up of people who all have their own individual desires and thoughts, i have yet to see any evidence of everyone working together for the specific goal of putting these comics on whatever page you perticularly care about.
-On to the whole make it less gay thing, i guess you needed atleast one more contradiction in your post. So you are here not just to voice an opinion but also to ask for the comic to be 'less gay'. Now, lets give you the benifit of the doubt and believe you actually want it to improve so that it becomes a better comic in your eyes. All you gotta do to make your first post worth while (apart from cutting out the vitrol) is provide a few examples of how to make the comic 'less gay' in your eyes.
-I never actually disliked your opinion, its objectively wrong, but you cant believe what you want. I thought you were trolling, and i trolled back for some fun, but it seems like you legit believe what you say, which kinda makes me an asshole if i keep trolling you. ATM I just dislike how you presented your opinion as i stated earlier.
Also, a few life tips about opinions and respect, you are young and inexperianced but heres how it goes:
Opinions alone are worthless, every single last one of them. Opinions are not correct or have any validity on their own, no one has to like your opinion or agree with it or even consider it worthy of thought. Just because someone has an opinion that the world is flat does not make them right. To make an opinion worthwhile you have to back it up with reasoning, logic and evidence. Respect is not owed to you, people dont have to respect you at all, and that is perfectly fine. As a rule, people often offer a certain amount of respect by default to someone in return for the expectation of the same respect back. If you want any more respect you have to earn it, if you show no respect for the other person, they are correct in offering no respect in return. You came into this conversation burning any respect people had for you right off the bat by being insulting and unreasonably angry at people who dont deserve it.
Why do you think you or your opinions and thoughts deserve any respect in return, what have you done to earn it?
You dont have to tell me why if you dont want to, completely up to you, i will have my ideas and opinions as to why either way, its up to you to inform me otherwise.
If you want an idea of the kind of irony i was talking about, look no further than you complaining about other people being mean to you after you were mean to them first. Refer back to the whole life tips section above about respect. Some self awareness would go a long way in making you seem less narcissistic.
I honestly dont understand what you are talking about with the whole choosing a webcomic over you as a person, is this basically just saying that we should all kowtow to your personal desires at the expense of our own?
To sum this all up, basically this whole seeing this comic thing sounds like a personal problem. I dont see why we need to hear about your problems. Go direct your frustrations at the people who actally can help you instead of acting like an asshole for no reason. The people you should be talking to are the Devs running DA, they might be able to introduce some sort of blocking system so you can block the works of artists you dont personally like, i am surprised such a system does not exist already.
PS, since you are so interested in the amount of effort i put into these posts, this one was done during two periods of waiting for a match in warthunder. About 6-8 mins or so, also while zoning out and listening to this track: youtu.be/-MftAdj7sQE its kind of awesome, you should try it.
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nah, fuck, don't give me textwalls here, not gonna read that.
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lol, enjoy seeing these comics on 'your' feed hehe no wonder you cant figure out how to solve this problem.
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its not a comeback haha
You dont really understand much about people do you ?
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I honestly can't understand what I didn't read. So if you were so kind to not write textwalls next time
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"draw whatever the fuck you want but holy shit get off this edge already."
Kinda hypocritical, to state a person's artistic freedom and then immediately bitch that they should stop drawing something you don't like.
People have spoken; with 2,783 favorites and nearly 20,000 views on deviantart alone, Handplates is a pretty popular series. If you don't like that, then I'm afraid your complaints are a drop in the bucket.
Nobody cares, quit being an edge lord.
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Very rude to call me a hypocrite while I explained pretty clearly what the problem is. But I guess you're just one of these people who cling onto tossed "offenses" and paint others bad.
The only reason I would ever care about this comic's popularity is because it constantly pops up in my newsfeed, no matter my setting. That was also the point I talked about, but let's not cover it either, eh?
Whether my "complain" is a drop in a bucket or not is not for you to rate. But from the looks of it, it surely was more than that to you, since you seem so rustled, closing your response with an offense, even.
"How anybody DARES post a negative comment among around 50 pages of asskissing???" - That's all I hear so far.
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I can live with that. Good talk.
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Yes, finally. Another human being.
I don't get it either. It's kinda like with Steven Universe, where they claim to educate kids how to emotionally grow up but instead act as shallow, arrogant and hypocritical as possible.
In all honesty though, I think I have an answer. It's pretty simple actually: Group behavoiur. Together they feel ''Strong'', willing to appreciate anything what ''The Others'' also like and has something to do with Undertale. It's like an emotional fixation.
Therefore, they also can't accept criticism, as it would require self reflection and actual emotional growth. (You got a prime example who already responden to you, though they can be way worse.)
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don't worry about the response of that fag, it's actually my friend who tries to fuck with me lmao.
But yeah man, I'm really not blaming the artist for being popular and building a fanbase around the series (though that opinion might or might not change with the response I might receive), what truly makes me cringe is that I ran trough all 48 pages of comments and every single one is exaggeration and asskissing. With exception of literally one deviant, which turns out to be a fucking nobody, though.
Once again we're facing an example of artwork on DA that gets more popularity than it actually is worth. And obviously because primary subject is cutie/drama Undertale.
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I actually already commented on another one, asking whether or not this was actually based on something from the game or simply made up fanfiction. I got the same lame excuses and attempts to defend the picture as you may already know.
It's not bad creating something revolving around a franchise or whatever but when the outcome is something that is basically just cirkle-jerking, something without any value, then you should stop. Btw, your friend did a good job fooling me.
And if you were referring to me, thanks for your, er-hem, kind words.
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no nah, had another guy on mind named CuteISIS or whatever.
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I'm finding it difficult to take you seriously. It's okay if you don't like this AU, or even this fandom; that's your opinion, and people should respect that. But you're not respecting others' opinions, and acting extremely immaturely on top of it. Really, it's fine if you don't like it. But other people do, and you don't need to be rude about it.
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I like how everyone skips the actual given reasons for disliking the comic series and goes straight for "don't like it, don't look at it" + offenses. In fact, yet again it's clinging onto irrevelant shit, in result calling me rude, immature and whatever, while I clearly had a respectful conversation going before any of you fanboys popped in.
And vice versa, I cannot take seriously any of you because of that. Just because you like this comic and I don't, doesn't mean I can't say what I think about it.
But it was to be expected. So since I'm already being painted bad, might as well keep up to the standard, eh?
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I hardly think that calling fans of the au "asskissers" and using other such unnecessary profanity is polite and mature.
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Is that your only problem or are you going to actually develop it into something?
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My main problem is you being mean about your opinion, yes. It's fine that you have one, but having a different opinion is no excuse to be impolite. I believe I am being perfectly clear about what I am saying. I'm not sure what you are confused about, or what you are even asking.
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I guess no developement here.
Well then bud, all I can say it's too fucking bad you have a problem with how impolite I am (that is, if you consider my first talk here impolite). Now either talk about things that matter or just don't talk at all.
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I'm sorry, isn't that the exact thing you were complaining about? The whole "If you don't like it, don't look at it" argument? It's a little shallow to start using the strikingly similar line of "either talk about things that matter or just don't talk at all". And my goodness, you are closed-minded. Just because something does not matter to you doesn't mean it doesn't matter at all. What on earth is your problem? Do you just find this fun or something?
Actually, don't answer that. It doesn't matter what you think, or like, or what your opinion is; so either talk about things that matter or just don't talk at all.
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You see, the "rude" behavior you keep clinging to is not a subject of this whole issue at all, which is why I told you to get off this subject. But instead you took it as opportunity to try and use my own words against me. But you and me know that it was just a really stupid attempt to prove me wrong on anything. Yet you're still here, saying it again, complaining on things that do not matter.
Since you seem to be lost in this whole issue, I'm going to put it simply for you, and show you how it actually looks like:
A: This is shit.
B: This is your opinion, but you don't have to be rude about it.
A: So what if I'm rude?
B: ROAR
So here we are, me listening to anything you're capable of grasping on, even though at this point I'm just giving you shit to talk about myself. And here's you, really trying to drag it out, even though I've made my point long time ago, probably just trying to force out the last word.
The best part about it, is that you're doing all this because there's some gay undertale comic with fictional characters that you felt like defending, by getting into an argument with an actual person. I already have my opinion about you. Yours on me really don't matter. I didn't come here in the first place to make friends lmao.
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Okay... but those last statements are really not the point, are they? (Other than the whole "gay undertale characters" thing. I'm not sure where you came up with that entire sentence to be honest, it's pretty irrelevant. Did I actually make a single attempt to defend the artwork in any way?) And I'm not trying to 'prove you wrong' on anything. None of this is technically factual, is it? It's all subjective.
And I'm sorry, but the meanness kind of was the subject of this whole conversation. That's why I commented in the first place. I don't care about the rest of it (which I have said numerous times, now); think whatever you want about the artwork, and me, for that matter. You have that right.
But that is still no excuse. That is all I was saying.
You didn't even have to respond to my comment. You could've completely ignored it, but for some reason, you didn't. I'm not sure why you'd keep responding if you didn't want to keep talking about it.
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Oh, but these statements really do make a point. Besides I've never said that I don't want to continue writing. I'm just saying you're continuing to respond. It all goes into one bucket called "reaction".
You see, originally I wrote my comment here because I genuinely don't like what I see. Could I restrain myself from doing so? Sure, I've been doing that for roughly half a year now. But just like I made my choice of reacting on yet another Undertale comic about nothing, you reacted to give me schooling regarding my behavior - driven by will to defense the comic (at least that was my first guess), but that could be really whatever, starting from swear words beaing your trigger and ending on the urgent need to serve justice on the internet.
And like I said, I'm not here to make friends. You and one or two other people decided to react on my comment in your own ways, and all of you kept on responding for the same reason. I've already made my point at the very start, but apperently that gay "don't like it, don't look at it" rule of yours applies only when you feel like it.
You see, despite your slow response time, I'm actually getting a lot of fun out of it. While you're just trying to win an internet argument over something that you are ironically/sarcastically trying to prove pointless. What is truly pointless is your urgency to "teach" me a "lesson", while at the same time excusing yourself with "you could ignore me".
You know what? You didn't ignore me in the first place. You started this shit, lmao. And it won't get any resolve at all since you just keep on writing.
Good day.
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It's amusing that you seem to think you completely understand me and my motives. I am not "just trying to win an internet argument". What would be the sense in that? I'm actually rather enjoying this as well, and am not in the slightest surprised to hear that you are as well. Did my slow response time give you another impression? I suppose it doesn't matter, since I'm explaining it to you now. You see, I actually have things going on in my life outside the internet (not to imply you do not. Your response time isn't exactly the quickest either, so who knows? I wouldn't know if you're obsessively searching for my reply every hour or if you just casually check when you turn on your computer. But I guess that's not the point).
And I'm sorry, I never brought up the "don't like it, don't look at it" argument, did I? I never defended the artwork, did I? Stop trying to put those things on me. Anyone reading this knows it's you talking about it, not me.
If you want to curse, fine, curse, it's a free country. It's more the whole "asskissers" and "fucking nobody" thing that irritated me. It just sounds so incredibly condescending.
Am I trying to teach you a lesson? No, not really, I'm sure someone like you isn't going to change because someone online pointed it out. I did call you out on it, though. Whether you care or not (which it seems you did) is not really my problem. I never have to talk to you again. But hey, I'm replying aren't I? Fun. You amuse me.
Good day to you, too.
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that's a rather long message for "actually nothing matters" isn't it?
I knew you're going to go "NO I'M NOT" on every cue you clearly made towards me just for the fuck of it. I may not know you like you said, which is the only reason you're able to say "you don't know my motives". But even if that's so, which is doubtful, acting one way and thinking another is at least considered a lack of social skills.
I skipped all these theories you were making about me on purpose, why the fuck would I need to share my daily routine lmao
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I didn't ask you to. And theories? I believe it is safe to assume you read my entire reply. Maybe the claim of skipping certain sections spared you from having to comeback to points you were unable to argue against.
I'm suddenly surprised by you. I thought you were smarter than this. I suppose should have figured you would continue your superiority mind set and act less ignorant than you apparently are. Oh well. Read me in whichever way you like. You'd probably be surprised if reality actually hit you, however, so I'll spare you the shock and leave the rest of it in the dark.
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Lmao so that's what I get if I treat you with a bit of ignoring on things that need to urgently be covered from my side? Damn you definitely have a short fuse today.
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I'm just disappointed with the quality of that last reply. Does that mean I have a short fuse? Please keep telling me what you think about me. It's very amusing.
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I think you're having very high standards to be dissapointed this much :/
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How dare you insult this fanbase i'm proud to be a part of
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Hey! Don't be mean! If you're going to be mean take it somewhere else! Us Undertale fans are all about Mercy, and if you want to Fight, take it the the Genocide timeline.
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Like, piss off, no one cares about you
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oh my god, I physically cringed reading this one.
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just fuck off already. we don't need you here.
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Simply enough: If you and others don't like this kind of thing, you don't have to read it or comment on it. No one was holding a gun to your head and forcing you, after all. This is part of a "series" the artist is working on involving their spin on the backstory behind Sans and Papyrus and how it relates to Gaster and everyone around them. It's not entirely a "stand alone" or "one-shot," so it's entirely understandable that given the content and experiences they've been through in the series they wouldn't be constantly feeling like everything is just rainbows and sunshine in their little world.
It's not the fact that it's about fictional characters as much as that the characters are displaying emotions that real people feel every day. Real people face "I'm not good enough" insecurities in their lives and need a kind of pick me up from people who care about them. They feel depression and have instances of being bullied into feeling stupid or inferior somehow. (If you were one of those bullies, or simply lucky enough not to go through it or somehow dense enough not to realize that was what was happening, then good on you; most people aren't that lucky.) Seeing other people, or characters from something they love that they feel they can somehow relate to, go through the same thing provides the reminder that they're not going through the problems alone, even if they aren't in the lab rat circumstances Sans and Papyrus are in the comic this artist made.
Art isn't always made to make people happy; it can be used to make you think or feel. How about growing a heart and looking at it from a point of view besides your narrow-minded "They're fake characters what the fuck is the point wtf is this shit you're so ridiculous" bullshit. I'm not saying everyone in the Undertale fandom is on that same point of view I have, but then again, EVERY SINGLE FAN BASE has its idiots and assholes. You have to pick and choose what you take from them.
Picking this comic to pick apart for being emotional probably wasn't the one to go after, buddy.
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Jesus fuck. No. Not even going to read this shit. Learn to write a RESPONSE, not an essay.
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