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Here's the second part! ^^ This time I tried to come up with a concept for a fully enclosed helmet, and a "muzzle-guard" to protect the face. I hope you can understand my handwriting this time as well.Again, if you have any feedback or alternative ideas be sure to write them in the comments! I'll try to reply as soon as I can.
Check out the first part, and this other work on helmets .
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Tinselfire [2021-12-21 10:06:12 +0000 UTC]
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Rexlare [2019-08-10 22:27:35 +0000 UTC]
The helmet design would probably be an all around effective design. The conical shape would easily deflect sword strikes to the side, and because there's so much free space above the head, it could probably take a hit from a mace or hammer's blunt side and the wearers skull wouldn't be totally destroyed yet. Ears may be a different story.
I like the fact that this design comes with a mempo like mask, and while it's real intimidating, it probably isn't all that great at defense. Masks make very poor defense because they're right up against the face, so there's no real space for the energy to travel. One hit with a hammer and the snout is going to take the full force as well.
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DanoGambler [2019-07-21 16:52:06 +0000 UTC]
I can indeed say that I'm one of the villains here xD
My reason to keep the ears open on my Naronian legionnaire helmets is that their armor is very much based on their tall shields and frontal combat tactics. In a world where full armor and high tech armor ingenuity exists, the Naronian legionnaires are rather sparingly dressed. Their main function is to keep their formations and take most hits that gets past their shields, pretty much like the roman Hastati and Principes, who often have their arms and legs completely bare and with holes in the helmets to be able to properly hear the commands for smooth unit maneuvering. So I think that despite the flaw, I will keep the design.
But this is a truly excellent study!! And I love this design! It looks perfectly natural and streamline, as if it would come from catfolk in real life. I would love to take some inspiration from your study is you'd be ok with that. ^^
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0laffson In reply to DanoGambler [2019-08-07 00:24:16 +0000 UTC]
Haha well, in your case you took inspiration from real world examples, so I'd say it's good! ^^ Maybe anthro ears are a bit more exposed, but if they bent their ears back they'd be pretty hard targets to strike. Also, the big shields are not to be underestimated.
Thank you so much! And again, of course! I'd be honored in fact!
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TheRealMerbirb [2019-02-22 00:46:21 +0000 UTC]
What if instead of the helmet tapering off into a cone like it does and squishing the ears you instead have it go up on a flat plane? that would 1) unsquish the ears and give them more room 2) make it possible to have some form of ventilation for the helmet and 3) would make it look a bit more like a war helmet and less like a bishop hat or Egyptian headgear (you know, the kind all the hieroglyphs are of?)
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Emillie-Wolf [2018-12-02 10:58:22 +0000 UTC]
A medieval helm can maybe have the same shape than the animal head.
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Callia-Evergreen [2018-09-27 00:35:24 +0000 UTC]
This is such a neat idea! I really like the Samurai sort of look this has; badass but still practical!
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0laffson In reply to Callia-Evergreen [2018-10-05 00:02:45 +0000 UTC]
Thank you, glad you liked the idea!
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Sundale2 [2018-07-23 17:52:50 +0000 UTC]
Just recently found your various takes on anthro armor. I'm still digesting them all, but I must say, they seem well thought out. Well enough that I may use some of the observations as I design my own, both fantasy and sci-fi (if you don't mind of course).
Though I would say there are a couple things for creators to consider;
1) Armor level.
Lighter armor (I.E. archers, scouts) may well leave the ears exposed for the sake of comfort, weight, or other reasons. The idea of light armor is to keep you alive, not necessarily unmaimed. Plus a scout may want the ears open so they can be used to their fullest. An archer may also want them open to help judge the wind, and to limit distractions to their aim.
2) Soldier rank.
Historically, lower ranking soldiers sometimes got less effective armor. So your lowly grunt who just joined last year may get the less protected helmet because it's cheaper to make. Less common for an army that likes their soldiers (assuming they do), but worth considering.
3) Natural weapons.
An anthro's bite is not something to be forgotten. Especially in an era of swords, where getting close is a guarantee, a wolf or tiger could make an arm/hand/leg unusable very quickly, or even land a kill on the throat. So covering the muzzle entirely might not be seen as worth losing that weapon. Mind you, you ARE trading protection for that weapon, so it may come down to a matter of what the particular being feels is important. Do they prefer to maximize protection? Do they prefer to have that bite available? Do they simply feel trust in the blade is enough? As a writer, this could tell a lot about the personality of the race as well. In sci-fi, it's less of a concern, though more advanced forging methods could also allow for the best of both worlds. (I.E. a helmet that leaves only the lower jaw exposed.)
I admit, gonna be thinking hard on the question of the ears. Foxes in particular have REALLY big ears. Just may not practical to have them that squished during a battle. Might actually diminish the soldier's effectiveness if their helmet drives them crazy the entire time.
But thank you for the angles to think along. It's good work.
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0laffson In reply to Sundale2 [2018-10-05 00:02:32 +0000 UTC]
Thank you! I'm sure some things could be more practical, but at least I want to have something plausible and comfortable enough.
I totally agree, some armors may very well be "crappier" than others, and common soldiers would definitely have less expensive equipment. I'd disagree about the "unmaimed" point though. I believe an armor should protect as much as possible (of course the effectiveness depends on the cost) since even a non-lethal cut could easily lead to a deadly infection.
That's a good point, but I suppose that would work only in REALLY close quarters, when two fighters find themselves wrestling. I think in battle biting would be pretty much useless though, and if the two groups fighting were using polearms there would be no chance to ger that close. In that case a protected muzzle would work better, I'd say.
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Sundale2 In reply to 0laffson [2018-10-05 06:38:55 +0000 UTC]
Fair enough on all counts. Nice to see the level of thought you put into them.
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crimsondawn005 [2018-07-21 02:01:14 +0000 UTC]
very interesting design reminds me of some real life helmets
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0laffson In reply to crimsondawn005 [2018-10-04 23:57:16 +0000 UTC]
Thanks, it's based on Turkish and Korean helmets! Aaand sorry for the late reply too.
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SpectrumGuardians [2018-02-18 19:01:06 +0000 UTC]
Oh yeah! That's really cool!
The samurai mask is called a menpo, which does offer protection but it also limits the movement of the jaw, making the person unable to speak while the mask is on :'D
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0laffson In reply to SpectrumGuardians [2018-02-26 18:21:44 +0000 UTC]
Thank you!
That's nice to know, thanks for sharing! ^^ I don't have much knowledge on Japanese weaponry.
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SpectrumGuardians In reply to 0laffson [2018-02-28 05:34:13 +0000 UTC]
You're welcome! I'm glad I was able to give you some insight!
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thereallinebyline [2018-02-11 17:31:12 +0000 UTC]
Ooh, these are great! There's a lot of empty space behind the skull, but nothing some padding wouldn't solve.
Okay, it looks a little like an onion, but I'm sure they'll tell you that's because they're good at making their enemies cry. (Whereas their enemies would tell you it's because they go great in soup.)
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0laffson In reply to thereallinebyline [2018-02-14 18:12:19 +0000 UTC]
Thank you! Or even a piece of metal to accomodate the head, letting only the ears go inside the dome. Plus padding.
hahahaha right! XD Onions are scary!
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AstarGoldenwing [2018-02-11 13:16:14 +0000 UTC]
This is awesome! I love the fully enclosed helmet, it would protect the ears from all sides and allow the swords to slide off the helmet. Plus, the 'onion cupola' shape gives it such a nice Slavic feel. My only concern is that such helmet wouldn't fit the wearer as well as more rounded one and would be easier to knock off, but overall I think this variation is the best you came up with. Also, I imagine that only the rich warriors would be able to allow such intricate muzzle pieces and the poorer ones would uses simpler 'metal snouts' of sorts.
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0laffson In reply to AstarGoldenwing [2018-02-14 18:11:32 +0000 UTC]
Thank you so much! I'm really happy you liked the design! It was supposed to be more Indo-persian looking than Slavic, but I guess there are some similarities! ^^
Maybe some padding would make a tighter fit, preventing it from being knocked off? And definitely, this is for rich warriors! ^^
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Spiritfox60 [2018-02-10 04:52:25 +0000 UTC]
Oh! I never thought about the holes in the helm. I did think about the muzzle piece, but you did it really well. I thought about straps that connects to the helm, but I love your version.
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TEK427 [2018-02-10 04:46:14 +0000 UTC]
Oooh! I like this idea! I love how you borrowed parts of a samurai helmet.
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0laffson In reply to TEK427 [2018-02-14 18:09:26 +0000 UTC]
Thank you a lot! I'm glad you liked it!
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Tattorack [2018-02-09 18:07:17 +0000 UTC]
Middle aged armour... designers?... weren't master engineers. What I mean to say is; it doesn't matter if this is the perfect optimal design for deflecting blows, there have been crazier helmets used in actual history.
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0laffson In reply to Tattorack [2018-02-14 18:09:13 +0000 UTC]
That's a fair point I guess! I guess the earlier helmets could have been less effective than later ones.
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runewuff [2018-02-07 06:44:49 +0000 UTC]
Onionhead hats FTW
suggestion - the earlier designs happened earlier in this world's history of weapon and armor development.
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0laffson In reply to runewuff [2018-02-14 18:08:39 +0000 UTC]
Haha hell yeah!
That's a good suggestion, thanks!
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21Mauricio21 [2018-02-07 02:41:41 +0000 UTC]
Gotta say, your final result is truly great
I'd give it 10/10 if it had that crest from the previous page
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0laffson In reply to 21Mauricio21 [2018-02-14 18:08:23 +0000 UTC]
Thank you so much!
Haha well, the covered ears kinda defeat the purpose of the crest XD
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KingCoin [2018-02-07 01:43:48 +0000 UTC]
This one is pretty good too! I still like crests better though!
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0laffson In reply to KingCoin [2018-02-14 18:07:52 +0000 UTC]
Thank you!
The crest definitely looks badass, even if less protective XD
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BrowncoatMando [2018-02-06 07:18:18 +0000 UTC]
This looks very "Redwall" to me. Works well, looks nice
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0laffson In reply to BrowncoatMando [2018-02-14 18:07:21 +0000 UTC]
A more Middle-eastern version, I guess! Thank you!
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FrxPlanner [2018-02-05 17:03:51 +0000 UTC]
I can see that you finally found a convincing solution. I think that this is the perfect one despite that the one of the first part wasn't bad.
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0laffson In reply to FrxPlanner [2018-02-14 18:05:59 +0000 UTC]
Haha yep! I also like this one more! Thank you a lot!
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LeoDragonsWorks [2018-02-05 11:47:30 +0000 UTC]
Nice study work ^^
The coplete helmet have sure a cool design, it can limit hearing and not too confortable, but helmet aren't exatly confortable, so it's a great idea.
The samurai cover for the nose is cool, but i'm not sure it's very protective... have you thought about a grate? Like gladiators helmets, that can cover all the face?
Example 1
I also found this curious medieval helment: example 2
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0laffson In reply to LeoDragonsWorks [2018-02-14 18:05:37 +0000 UTC]
Thank you! Indeed, safety comes before comfort.
I thought about it, but my cats are more Indo-persian inspired than European, so a closed helmet wouldn't fit with the setting and style. ^^
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LeoDragonsWorks In reply to 0laffson [2018-02-16 08:31:00 +0000 UTC]
you are welcome!
Sure ^^ I trust you on the last part, I'm not really informed about historical armor... anyway your character are cool with any helmet you choose for them.
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Tallowick [2018-02-05 11:23:57 +0000 UTC]
Once again, excellent work! I too contemplated a samurai-like warmask, but I designed it for a fox, which made it possible for the under side to be open, allowing the lower jaw to move.
The helmet has a very Egyptian feeling to it, which I feel fits very well with the feline race :3
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0laffson In reply to Tallowick [2018-02-14 18:03:42 +0000 UTC]
Thank you! These kinds of concepts are always fun to work on!
Glad you think so! ^^
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soyersoldier [2018-02-05 10:49:44 +0000 UTC]
Feather. Why not? Always can be used for write a letter.
The mask not finish of convincing me completely. Look the up secure, I think the reinforcement should be tilted, so that the mask comes outside forward. And, I think that the mask is very closed for who a cat open his mouth.
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0laffson In reply to soyersoldier [2018-02-14 18:03:00 +0000 UTC]
Haha true!
Hmmm, you're right! Maybe it should be a bit more distant from the muzzle!
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Juditova [2018-02-05 05:18:25 +0000 UTC]
Good work of the "evolving helmet" concept. I love it.
One thing. Is your work pre or post powder? It's a crucial difference between the coarse and fancy designs.
Consider doing one image with the German/Prussian Pickelhaube because, well, it's looks epic.
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