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I'm gonna tweak this a little more before posting it at for their alternate universe contest, but I wanted to show what I have so far.I've been wanting to revisit my revamped version of Elias Acorn again. He's tougher as well as more stable and responsible then his Archie self. The particular AU featured here was basically inspired by my having read Elias's backstory and all the plot holes in it just really jumping out at me.
With the palace threatened by Overlander forces, King Maximilian sends Alicia and baby Sally away to safety while keeping his heir Elias by his side (I should point out that my take on Max isn't off his rocker like he was in Archie either). Prior to all this, Elias was being brought up in learning how to rule the kingdom once Max stepped down or in case something happened to him. Anyways, tragedy strikes when it's reported that the ship the queen and Sally were on sank, and later, Max is betrayed by Robotnik and overthrown. Elias is spirited away to Knothole along with the other palace children. With his father gone, Elias decides to declare himself king. Fighting at his side is his second-in-command and best friend since childhood, Antoine D'Coolette.
Thanks to his best friend's presence in this 'verse, Antoine is a very different person here from the one we know β he has more self-confidence and decisiveness from an early start. Plus, with no Sally around, he doesnβt waste time feuding with Sonic over her. As boys, Antoine and Elias made a vow together to avenge their families, remove Robotnik from power, and train to become stronger (LOL, doesn't that totally sound like an anime?). Now that they're older (Eli is in his late twenties while Antoine is two years younger here), the two of them have become very formidable warriors. In battle, Elias wields the Sword of Acorns. I haven't quite decided yet if it'll have mystical properties or just be an ordinary sword.
But whatever happened to Sally? Well, read on here: :thumb635848000:
ETA: Wasn't able to clean this up as much as I wanted to, but the contest is over with on the 3rd, so...
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They are very handsome. I love their designs! And I really like this half of the AU as well; it sounds very heroic. It doesn't *necessarily* sound like an anime to me, either; I daresay it's a common theme in anime but oaths and revenge and becoming peerless warriors are just common elements of heroic fiction in general, and none the worse for it.
And I looked at the other picture first, so I know what happened to Sally. xD
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XD
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^^ Well i was reading the other comments and couldn't think of a better term. -Headshake.- Maybe they're thinking of the cartoon; SatAM really doesn't flatter him, though that's not his fault. As far as I can see, in Archie he looks as good as anyone else. Either way, I much prefer your style as well as your conception.
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Some of the time he didn't look that bad in SatAM, especially in the first season, but the second... yeah (but I think just about everyone looked worse there). Someone else and I believe the fanbase says he's ugly just because they hate him that much. How else do you explain why people act like characters like Sonic are so sexy/handsome? IMHO, it's just transparent and obvious that they want dump every negative trait in the world on him. He's ugly, he's homophobic, he's a pervert, he hates everybody, etc.
TBH, I have problems with Archie's art. I do like how he looks in some of the older stuff, with a more proportionate build, but in the later stuff he looks so inorganic and blah. I especially hate how they draw his cheek fluff. It looks less like fur and more... I dunno. It ain't fur. But thank you! I try to mix the original designs with more natural animal features.
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xD Honestly I just kinda dismissed SatAM's art as mediocre, or maybe hit-and-miss (amusingly enough, I really liked Robotnik's appearnace. I honestly found him imposing in his rotund immensity and I like his colour scheme). It's like FiM; I wasn't watching it because the art appealed to me.
It's kinda sad that people would treat a character that way.But he probably does hate everybody since everybody hates him.
xD Inorganc? They must have run him through a roboticiser.~ But anyway, that's why like your art, because of the more natural features. : 3
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It is pretty mediocre, I agree. Antoine's first season design is cute, IMHO. I just wish he didn't look so dwarfish. Coyotes are long and lean. And I'm with you in preferring Robotnik to Eggman.
Does he really though? I mean, I'm not just saying that because I'm a fangirl. It's more that we don't really see him interact enough with many characters (aside from Sonic and Sally, and in the comics Bunnie and this one character that got dumped in the reboot) or go inside his head to gauge exactly what he thinks of others. And when he does interact with other characters, it's a very shallow kind of interaction. He's either the butt of jokes, cooing at Bunnie or Sally depending on the canon, or is a reactive character. He's this big blank slate when he's been around since '93.
XD Nah, they ran him through an uglifier: sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Antoine_D⦠I mean, he doesn't even look furry (heck, he barely even looks canine). I feel like I'd cut my fingers on his cheeks if I tried touching him. I hate they dropped his uniform too. But everyone's ugly/absurd-looking now (though Sonic's still the same level of weird blue mutant Cheshire cat-esque creature he's always been). And just about everyone draws Antoine like that these days. >_< But thank you! I'm glad some pple likes my style!
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Coyotes are indeed long and lean; that's why I like them! And I prefer to imagine Antoine that way. As for Eggman... I don't think he's meant to be taken seriously. I don't really think the Sonic franchise was meant to be taken too seriously. Though how light-hearted it is changes with each version.
Hm? Does he really hate everyone? I was joking. : p Also i was thinking as much of the fans as the actual characters. Within the context of SatAM I'm sure he hates Sonic (and the villains) but not anyone else. Actually I'm not so sure he hates Sonic. My memories are getting fuzzy, but it seems his annoyance was usually a reaction to Sonic being a jerk or show-off. Sonic seems to have it in for him more than the other way around.
Well, I can't say I like that art style; it looks like he's sculpted from plastic. But it doesn't actually bother me as much as some other contemporary art styles. I have to agree though, he doesn't really look distinctly canine. >>
You're very welcome. ^^
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Try telling that to the SatAM and Archie fans who act like these series are furry versions of Dexter or something. You hear a lot of squealing about "OMG it's so dark! Eggman is like Hitler!"
Oh sorry. I highly doubt he hates anybody either. Oh man, he'd probably take one look at the fanbase and recoil in horror, LOL. I do think Sonic dislikes him more, whereas Antoine was just understandably tired of Sonic's attitude.
That plastic/CGI look isn't present in the comic, but it's not like it's any better there. I think I hate the Sonic Team/SEGA style because it's so prevalent, overrated, and it feels like pple think it's the only way to draw the characters.
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xD Well, SatAM is probably about the darkest iteration of Sonic there is. And Eggman's schemes are... genocidal, sometimes? Eh. It's just impossible to take him seriously, so comparing him to any real-life villain is a bit much.
-Nods.-
Ah. Yeah... I can understand people preferring it, or viewing it as correct since it's what the source material uses, but it's wrong to insist that it be the only way to portray them. Personally, in dealing with things where I like something but dislike the art style it's drawn in (and I can think of several examples), I would just do it my way.
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IMHO, SatAM seems like it suffers badly from tonal whiplash. It doesn't know if it wants to tell this serious story or be a goofy silly kids' show. That kind of thing really jars me. I see where you're coming from about Eggman. I feel like the adult fans are blinded by nostalgia and wanna prop up their obsession with a kid's show/games, so they have to start dragging in comparisons to real-life villains and scream about what "nightmare fuel" roboticization is (the idea is unnerving, yes, but the way it looks in the shows? It's really cartoony, again IMHO). It's... I just don't get it. I just have to laugh.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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It does have tonal whiplash. I would describe it as "fragmented"; the good parts being broken up by sections of "humour". I kind of feel the second season was worse about this, as it had whole episodes dedicated to... what was presumably meant to be funny. For me they were painful to watch.
Heh. I see your point; although in SatAM it does seem nightmarish inasmuch as they lose free will. The only other show I've seen it in is Underground, where the guy seemed to throw off the programming relatively easily. So... I guess for me I see more the potential for roboticization (and I'm inclined to make it painful, which I don't remember if SatAM did or not).
Also the phrase "nightmare fuel" amuses me because it's what I imagine Nightmare Moon running on. >>;
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The second season sounds terrible honestly. I have no intentions of watching it. What a waste of potential.
Yeah, Underground is the only other animated series which used the concept. It was equally unimpressive there because the person was simply turned into a cyborg. I do think the Robians have cool designs in the comics (a few of them anyways), and it definitely is something I'm interested in discussing and hopefully exploring (in fact, I plan on commission art of my Sonic OFCs and other characters as Robians). I just can't take these grown men and women still being scared of roboticization as it occurs in SatAM.Β Oh, in "Blast To The Past", the victim gave no sign whatsoever of ever being in pain. The process should be painful though, all things considered.
LOL. Now I'm envisioning NMM sitting at home in her armchair chugging cans of nightmare fuel!
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There are certainly episodes I don't think you'd like -- most of the "humour" revolves around making fun of Antoine. >< Ech...
Cyborg? I thought he was full-on roboticised, though that would explain why he was able to assert his freedom so easily. And, cool designs in the comics? I'm surprised. Mostly because I wasn't impressed by the SatAM designs, and figured they'd be similar.
Okay, no pain then. Except that there will be in my stories because I like painful transformations, hang canon. D: And well... maybe I'd be surprised if I met people who were really scared of it. Right now I'm having trouble envisioning people being that afraid of the show [i]per se[/i]. Though for me it was one of those things where I preferred the villain and was half-hoping he would win, or at least roboticise... a certain someone. >>
xD Splendid.
"Real Princesses drink NIGHTMARE FUEL."
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So I've noticed. 
Yeah, there it's not the full-body robot effect that the SatAM roboticization process is. I'll have to see about trying to find some of the Robian designs I like. If I do find them, I'll note you the links or something. I did get this done for my birthday: www.deviantart.com/art/Sheep-R⦠It's more in the vein of Archie's older style.
It mostly depends on the nature of the transformation for me. An unwilling one or one which corrupts its victim(s) I'd expect to hurt -- like roboticization. I think fans are just exaggerating when they say the show scared them. At least I really hope they are anyways. LOL, gee, who on earth could you ever be referring to? XD
(Also, stories? I know you mentioned the FNaF one, but you have more in mind?)
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Yeah. I totally get that. It's kind of a vibe I've gotten from modern comedy, though I'm not sure how qualified I am to comment on it precisely I keep most modern stuff as far away from me as possible. -Cough.-
Huh. I totally misinterpreted Underground on that score then. I'll be hornswoggled.
And sure. ^^ I would like that. And that picture does look somewhat cool, though not quite to my tastes. The lower legs and forearms are too large in proportion to the rest of the limb for my taste.
And maybe they are. I'm rather curious now. Innocuous-seeming things can hit a nerve, but it doesn't seem like all *that* many people would be *that* scared, especially if they first watched it as adults. Still, I'm actually a bit surprised it doesn't scare me -more-, now that I've been thinking about it: loss of free will and self-control is actually a major phobia of mine. You'd expect this to hit that dead-on, but it doesn't.
-Nods.- I am similar. I like non-painful transformations too; different situations call for different treatments of tf. I do rather like the idea of painful shifting for therianthropes, at least at first; it's kind of like growing pains. The more they do it, the more the pain gives way to pleasure. Acceptance also makes a difference.
xD I'm afraid I'm going to leave you guessing there. But I'll give you a hint -- he uses a deus ex machina to escape that very fate in the last episode.
And well, I have one FNaF story half-written. I hesitated to say that before, because when i say I'm working on something I usually stop. >>; But that's a habit I aim to break. Anyway, it is meant to be a stand-alone, just an idea that came to me. But it might well morph into a series of its own. Then I have the other, older idea of FNaF-Sonic crossover stories, with several definite vignettes in mind for it. Then I just have a desire to write Sonic fanfiction without any clear idea for a story.
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It's an annoyingly common trend. I think the last comedy I saw that was genuinely enjoyable came out a few years ago. I almost kinda can't blame you for avoiding modern stuff at this point. I just keep watching in the hopes of seeing better stuff be created (and some of it is watchable if not actually good).
Yeah, that's actually how I designed the character, though the limbs aren't quite so exaggerated in her flesh and blood form: fav.me/d9tipzd Also, her legs are just really woolly and intended to resemble bell-bottoms for a sheep. I thought it'd be a nifty design/stylization choice to go with for a sheep/Sonic character. I did do another doodle where her forearms are more normally proportioned, but I actually prefer the former design.
I know what you mean. It doesn't scare you because you're not silly and want to make a mediocre kid's show look like more then what it actually is.
I never thought about comparing transformations to growing pains before, but I can totally see it. Fox turned me onto the idea of acceptance playing a role in transformations.
Oh man, I hope I didn't jinx you there. At any rate, the stories sound promising!
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xD Well, one can hope that they improve.
Funny, I came across that picture as a suggestion from something else. I didn't make any connection at the time, other than concluding that you must really like sheep. xD The original doesn't look disproportionate to me, especially as it can be attributed to wool.
xD Thanks?
Hee, I've thought about this a lot! And Fox is a fan of a werewolf character, of sorts, so I'm not surprised that the idea occurred to her.
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Haha, I hope not too!~Β But it's really up to me. And, I'm sure the hcaracters look forward to having you joint hem for a bite!
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Small world. XD Well I liked them alright before, but I think Zootopia made me really start to take a liking to sheep. They're woefully misunderstood animals. Robians sometimes tend to have that bulky look to their limbs (IE: Bunnie's SatAM design).
Take that as a compliment.
Your thoughts intrigue me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. XD
Now that sounds ominous. XD
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I've always disliked sheep, partly because of the perception that they are, well, stupid. But I'm open to rethinking that. You have a way of casting things in a new light. : p And yeah, it seems to be a popular design/style, but I prefer sleeker machines, if given the choice.
xD
Good.~
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Thank you.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/scienβ¦
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I find it interesting that the animals we eat have all been pegged as stupid when the truth is very different. Seems a little too suspect to be a coincidence.
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Well! That is both surprising and not. All my life sheep have been held up as stupid; but then, I think animals in general are far smarter than they are usually given credit for. Though I do note that the article says that they are "dim" in groups. Though humans can suffer from the same follow-the-leader mentality, so that's not surprising.
Personally I think it might be that people think food animals are stupid because they let themselves be tamed into such a situation.
Anyway after making that last comment I realised, I don't expect sheep characters to be stupid, nor do I especially mind them (though if they're anthro, I would greatly prefer their wool being... downplayed; like, i do find Meadow's appearance pleasing). It's more sheep in the abstract that I developed an aversion to, and it's as much or more because of their use as a symbol for docility and pacifism, than it is mere stupidity.
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Definitely.
I was thinking that people like to think food animals are dumb because it's easier for them to eat something that isn't intelligent. But I can see someone thinking "they're stupid for letting themselves be tamed" -- which is really stupid. Animals aren't idiots. They have no incentive to leave when they have these two-leggers giving them food, shelter, and protection. They're dumb because they don't want to give that up? And many of them can easily adapt to living wild (horses, pigs, fowl etc).
Meh. I think chickens, cows, and sheep have more sense then most pple do.
The woolly puffball look seems like it'd be cumbersome for an anthro sheep. I'm glad you like Meadow's design!
That's understandable.
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Ach, I think I meant to say that it's likely enough that some people tell themselves food animals are dumb to soothe their consciences. As for the second idea, I wouldn't call it stupid, because I have never considered myself stupid and I've gone through moods or phases were it appealed to me. But I'm not sure I ever seriously believed it, because you're quite right in your points; it isn't a rational view of tame animals.
They probably do in some sense. Not sure how serious you are, xD but even domestic animals have more instinctual knowledge than people. I'd be tempted to say more common sense as well. I think that it was otherwise in previous eras, but this is not an age which specially fosters any kind of intelligence.
^^ Indeed.
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No offense was meant. I wasn't aware in the slightest that you'd entertained those kinds of thoughts at one time, otherwise I wouldn't have used a word like stupid. I admit to being very tired of seeing "wild animals are smart! Domestic animals are dummies!111" from people. It's not that one side is smarter then the other. The intelligence manifests itself in different ways from species to species. For example, I remember hearing about a study someone did comparing wolves (an animal internet kids and wolfaboos treat like furry Albert Einsteins) intelligence to dog intelligence. There are things dogs can do that wolves can't do (I can't recall what it said about wolves). Incidentally I struggle with the topic of food animals. Yes, I love my burgers and chicken, but at the same I also like the animals themselves and don't think they should be treated. If we're going to eat them, then let's at least make sure their existences are pleasurable, and make the end quick and painless you know?
I think that was my misanthropic side talking, but I'm halfway serious. XD
this is not an age which specially fosters any kind of intelligence.
I don't think it is either.
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I didn't think you did mean any offense, and I feel you've apologised. ^^ But I don't blame you for being angry. I can well imagine what you've seen.
Tch. Wolves are a case in point: I love wolves, and can somewhat sympathise with their partisans. And yet -- they can be obnoxious. My most memorable brush-up with that kind of appalling fanaticism wasn't even of the more stupid/ignorant variety. It was a furry roleplaying forum; and the admin would not let anyone besides himself play wolves because they were too Mystical and Sacred and he feared lest anyone profane them. I should know; he had the audacity to change the species of one of my characters from dire wolf to some breed of dog, without notifying me before or after (that I recall).
It is kind of an uncomfortable topic. : \ Now, people who blame eating meat on moral grounds, treating it as a mortal sin -- they annoy the snot out of me. But I do think the conditions in which such animals are sometimes kept is iniquitous. I am all for being humane and raising them in natural conditions, even if made meat somewhat more scarce or higher-priced. So -- I agree with you.
xD
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You just seemed rather upset when I said that, so it came across like you'd taken offense. Thank you for understanding my POV though. I've seen way too much stupidity regarding animals. Learning about them is for losers like me apparently.
Wolf lovers are the worst examples of being proud in their ignorance about the animal and point blank making up silly things about them. They're only rivaled by cat ladies, IMHO. Wow. So what happened after he changed your character's species like that? I used to love wolves, but the internet and fantasy books have quashed that completely. Also, I really feel like there are so many amazing animals out there that get ignored because they're not wolves (and too weird or not cute enough to be mainstream).
Yeah, that's going overboard. But thanks, glad to see somebody who gets where I'm coming from!
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Well -- in a way I did take offense, but I didn't hold it against you, if that makes sense. 
Anyway, you're welcome; I try to be understanding. In this case I agree that domesticated animals are not stupid, literary conventions and misconceptions notwithstanding. And people who not only insist upon misconceptions, but belittle those who disagree with them, I would find most galling.
Also, please, I would prefer you not call yourself a loser, even in jest. I think the desire to learn is admirable, and standing up for things that are commonly dismissed or disdained is something to be proud of.
Cat ladies? xD I don't think you mean the stereotypical crazy old woman with dozens of cats?
Well, nothing. As I recall, the forum was pretty much already dead by the time I happened to glance back over the profile and note the change. Certainly I was angry, but at that point there seemed to be no reason to complain. Actually the forum never was all that active apart from me and another guy; it occurs to me now that the creators didn't really want a roleplay with its chaos and give-and-take; they wanted to just write their own story.
I'm sorry you lost your love of wolves like that. Though if the Pack in Knight's Errand is anything to go by, it's not gone entirely. Also I'm curious, what kind of fantasy books have you read? The fantasy I'm most familiar with tends to depict them as evil. (Unless you count 2nd Edition Dungeons and Dragons, the Monster manual of which I've mostly read through online. There, werewolves are literally Always Chaotic Evil; but contra to its own norm for animals, wolves are semi-intelligent and quite noble. The entry would probably make you sick.)
You're welcome. xD Yeah, I think the worst animals of appreciation and good treatment of animals are animal-rights fanatics.
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No worries. 
Oh sorry. 
I was thinking crazy cat people in general. Sadly it's not limited to old ladies.
I see. Yeah, it was too late to do anything by then, unfortunately. Also, I don't really get people who do stuff like that -- if you don't want to play with a bunch of strangers, then just make a private board.
There are wolf characters I certainly like (and I like werewolves. Make sense of that XD), but in general I don't care for them. I was thinking the talking animal subgenre. It seems like you can't throw a rock without hitting a wolf book. Here's a whole list of them: www.goodreads.com/list/show/22β¦ (Goodreads is a really good site BTW -- I have an account there). I'm more then willing to bet that in the majority of the books the wolves are Strong Noble Warriors. I could be generalizing of course, since the few I've read have kind of blurred together in my mind. It seems really rare to see wolves as villains these days. A while ago I wondered had anyone ever written any novels about thylacines. Needless to say, I was very disappointment to find only three or four, and none of them appealed to me. Some animals I don't even bother trying to see if there are any books written about. I know there aren't. Hmm, I'll have to check out that entry out of curiosity.
Oh they're awful, no argument there.
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Rawr. Sorry I took so long to reply... I'm afraid it may've given the impression I was mad. >< Really, I'm glad to let that go. : )
Well, I figured it was facetious, but it still struck me as self-denigrating. -Shrug.-
Ah, okay, so people who treat cats the way those other people treat wolves.
Yeah, a private board is probably what they should do. But people probably don't realise it at the time. -Grimace.- Or they want everyone to participate in their wonderful ideas but don't realise that players may have ideas of their own.
Ah, okay; that's actually a genre I haven't read... anything in, I don't think. It's funny that the list is prefaced by someone saying that had trouble finding more than five books, and the list has over 200 entries. xD Probably most of them are noble warriors, yeah. I certainly understand that depiction of wolves, but it's annoying if all wolves everywhere are depicted as much the same.
As for the entry, here you go: www.lomion.de/cmm/wolf.php It's not as bad (and not nearly as long) as I thought, but it's still a little cloying. The Mist Wolves, specific to Greyhawk, are worse I think -- they're of the "noble but misunderstood" type. www.lomion.de/cmm/wolfmist.php
Sorry you couldn't find any books on thylacines you liked. -Grimace.- It can be so frustrating to be craving something and find it denied like that. It might be worse to find things you don't like than nothing at all.
And it... actually makes sense to me to like werewolves and not wolves. xD It may seem strange, but I clearly distinguish between werebeasts and animals so it doesn't seem strange to me.
Also, on general principles: -Hugs.-
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Oh man, you did an awesome job on these two! 
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Yeah, I love how their outfits turned out too.
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Whoo! These two guys look ready to take names and jump right into action; I dig your takes on AU!Antoine and AU!Elias here. Their outfits fit in nicely with them. Plus, I love the stories behind these two awesome dudes. I wish you plenty of luck in winning the contest!
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I appreciate the kind words.
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Aw yeah! Robotnik, beware: we've got a couple of BOSS warriors and they'll be coming after ya! >D And you're quite welcome. ^^
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Thank you! That's precisely what I was going for here.
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Awesome.
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