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Published: 2019-01-12 21:58:40 +0000 UTC; Views: 13849; Favourites: 119; Downloads: 55
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So here I present you almost every Lambeosaurine in chart form, containing every species I could scale.I haven posted any chart since July so I think this is a nice comeback, this was actually in production since September last year but I lacked time (and will) to do it last year and it makes me very glad to finally present it to You.
The species not present in the chart are:
01-Adelolophus: I never saw this species phylogenetic position tested in any paper matrix, the only time I saw it in an analysis it was by that found it as sister to Lophorhothon outside Saurolophidae. Considering this I excluded it from the chart.
02-Angulomastacator: Know from only a partial jaw with a very starge shape I decided to not scale this species, Benson et al., 2014 say it is about the same size as most Lambeosaurines so following this around 7-8.5 meter long.
03-Blasisaurus: Lumped into Arenysaurus
04-Jaxartosaurus: know from just posterior part of the skull, impossible to reliably scale.
05-Kazaklambia: lack of good pictures or mesurements.
Note: Many of the silhouettes were made in September last year, so they are a bit outdated and their feet are in an outdated anatomy and not according to Hartman's 2018 Hadrosaur repose, I don't think this interfere with the porpouse of the chart so I'll keep the outdated feet.
Image reference:
Prieto-Márquez et al., 2012 for Magnapaulia skeleton
Greg Paul (Princeton Field Guide to Dinosaurs, 2016) - Tsintaosaurus, Olorotitan, Hypacrosaurus altispinus and both Corhytosaurus skeletons + Lambeosaurus magnicristatus and Velafrons skull.
for Gryposaurus, "H".stebingeri, Lambeosaurus lambei and both Parasaurolophus skeletons
for Nipponosaurus skeleton and P.tubicen and Charonosaurus skulls
for Sahaliyania skeleton
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia… by I don't know who, If you know tell me so I can do the correct reference.
Papers used:
Sullivan et al., 2011
Benson et al., 2014
Prieto-Márquez et al., 2019
Acknowledgment:
Big thanks yo for giving me the Benson et al., 2014 Excel sheet with the measurement used to scale most of this taxa. And his Jurassic World Evolution Dinosaurs chart. chart that I used as the base for scaling all species not present in there.
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Comments: 35
DeadAppleArts [2024-03-24 23:25:31 +0000 UTC]
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AndreOF-Gallery In reply to DeadAppleArts [2024-03-26 15:52:29 +0000 UTC]
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thetigergamer2009 [2023-11-28 18:33:55 +0000 UTC]
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AndreOF-Gallery In reply to thetigergamer2009 [2023-11-28 20:34:13 +0000 UTC]
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thetigergamer2009 In reply to AndreOF-Gallery [2023-11-28 22:32:59 +0000 UTC]
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narcosaurus [2022-08-27 14:41:49 +0000 UTC]
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AndreOF-Gallery In reply to narcosaurus [2022-08-27 17:57:42 +0000 UTC]
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narcosaurus [2022-07-04 09:14:41 +0000 UTC]
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AndreOF-Gallery In reply to narcosaurus [2022-07-04 20:29:01 +0000 UTC]
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Spinodontosaur4 [2019-02-22 01:11:24 +0000 UTC]
I assume the masses here are based on various GDI estimates, but are you sure the Magnapaulia one is legit? The mass listed here is less than 60% of SpinoInWonderland's 2017 GDI estimate of 15.27 tonnes, in fact the torso alone in his estimate is over 10 tonnes. I can understand some variance between different GDI estimates, but I find it difficult to understand how one can be nearly twice as big as another using the exact same skeletal reconstruction. The estimate here is about the same as a Tyrannosaurus of equal length, despite Magnapaulia being visibly much larger than any Tyrannosaurus specimen.
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SpinoInWonderland In reply to Spinodontosaur4 [2019-04-01 06:47:03 +0000 UTC]
The reason the result of my GDI was rather high was due to a scalebar error - I took the skeletal reconstruction and its scalebar from Figure 2 of Prieto-Marquez et al. (2012) as is without checking it via the reported measurements when I did the GDI. The linear dimensions should be decreased by ~87.28% (80.3 cm humerus vs ~92 cm in Fig. 2) and thus volume/mass decreased to ~66.49%. The new estimate would be ~10.16 tonnes.
The ~8.8 tonne figure seems to be taken from my older Magnapaulia GDI, which uses a shrinkwrapped Paulian tail as opposed to the musculature model from Persons (2011). Scaling the older Paulian-tail GDI myself gives about ~8.97 tonnes, so they might have used a density slightly lower than 1 kg/litre.
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AndreOF-Gallery In reply to Spinodontosaur4 [2019-02-22 12:20:58 +0000 UTC]
So originally it was the same size as Spino's GDI; but I think it was Random that told me it was oversize and the GDI was wrong and the most up to date size was ~8.8 T, this size is coherent based on a Corythosaurus GDI.
Magnapaulia is not that huge; it taller than Tyrannosaurus but not as wide.
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vasix [2019-02-19 08:10:04 +0000 UTC]
Magnapaulia is seriously one massive block of an animal lol. How high is it at the back btw?
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AndreOF-Gallery In reply to vasix [2019-02-19 12:06:30 +0000 UTC]
I actually do not know...
I used Gimp redimension tool at my Magnapaulia silhouette to find a possible max height; at the tallest point it is ~5.13 meters tall.
Quite a tall girl, isn't she?
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vasix In reply to AndreOF-Gallery [2019-02-20 12:33:19 +0000 UTC]
Hell that's basically similar to P.namadicus give or take a take a few cm
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AndreOF-Gallery In reply to Dinosauria32 [2019-02-12 23:33:53 +0000 UTC]
Ahahah, I don't wanna do more formation charts, lost the happy feeling on doing those.
So no HC for now.
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Dennonyx [2019-01-14 17:08:19 +0000 UTC]
Actually, Kazaklambia is represented by very good pictures and measurements. The only issue is that the specimen belongs to an ontogenetically immature individual.
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AndreOF-Gallery In reply to Dennonyx [2019-01-14 18:42:30 +0000 UTC]
We do?
Could you link me the material please.
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Dennonyx In reply to AndreOF-Gallery [2019-02-08 10:50:54 +0000 UTC]
ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/…
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AndreOF-Gallery In reply to Dennonyx [2019-02-08 13:00:58 +0000 UTC]
I had already seem pictures of the skull, imagined you had pictures of the postcrania.
Thanks for sharing it anyways
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Deform2018 [2019-01-13 23:56:42 +0000 UTC]
Wow, Magnapaulia wasn't even larger than Tyrannosaurus? Some "giant".
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Corallianassa In reply to Deform2018 [2019-01-23 10:19:03 +0000 UTC]
In what reality does being 2 t heavier than the average African bush elephant male not qualify as giant?
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Deform2018 In reply to Corallianassa [2019-01-23 15:00:02 +0000 UTC]
At least as large as the largest elephants. It's giant to us, but in the prehistoric world, it's size isn't all that interesting (not interesting to me at least).
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AndreOF-Gallery In reply to Deform2018 [2019-01-15 15:37:32 +0000 UTC]
Sorry, lost this comment in notifications.
But Magnapaulia is around the same size as the largest Tyrannosaurus specimens, Sue is a little over 9T and the largest specimen referred to Magnapaulia is just 0.2 T lighter than it, but yeah it is not larger than it as we once thought.
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Dinosaurlover83 [2019-01-12 22:58:33 +0000 UTC]
Ooh dis good. Nice to see you back btw. Also, Canardia is so good damn smol lol.
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AndreOF-Gallery In reply to Dinosaurlover83 [2019-01-12 23:05:03 +0000 UTC]
Thanks,
And yeah Canardia is very very small (though would still be classified as Megafauna if alive today).
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AndreOF-Gallery In reply to Majestic-Colossus [2019-01-12 23:04:06 +0000 UTC]
I was always around on Discord, but I did very few time last semester and in my free time I was to tiered to work on a chart so that made seem like I vanished.
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Majestic-Colossus In reply to AndreOF-Gallery [2019-01-12 23:17:55 +0000 UTC]
Good to see a new chart!
Still can't believe how massive Magnapaulia is, though. It's taller than most trucks!
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