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Published: 2016-11-09 09:37:20 +0000 UTC; Views: 3728; Favourites: 62; Downloads: 0
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Description Imagine that you were a factory worker living in a Midwestern town. Perhaps in Ohio or Michigan, maybe Wisconsin. You worked hard at your union job alongside people of several different races and backgrounds. It paid well. You judged people based on their deeds, not the color of their skin or any other external quality. If people were honest and hardworking, you liked them, and if not, no. You are a white man, but you don't judge people based on their race, creed, or origin.

You and your wife made enough money for a house, two cars, and had plenty of cash left over to raise two children. You weren't rich, but you made ends meet and had some money to save. You were and still are religious, with roots in the US going back at least a century, perhaps more. You consider yourself to be patriotic, decent, and on the whole, those are words which describe you and your town pretty well.

Then things began to change. Your town's factory shut down. You had to take a job at a store which paid a fraction of your previous wages. Many people left your town, the tax base withered, and your infrastructure crumbled. The schools got worse. Crime went up. You legitimately feared for your children's safety and security. You were forced to send them to a school you didn't want them to go to because of actual fears about violence, but when you complained, they called you a racist. They called you a lot of things, in fact. When you complained about outsourcing, they called you a xenophobe. When you took offense to violent minority gangs, they called you a racist. When you bought a firearm for protection and continued to go to church, they mocked you, saying that you "clung to guns and religion."

"They" happened to be the democratic party. The same people whose economic policies helped close down your factory, ruin your schools, and insulted you for objecting to the abuse you suffered through. Calling mostly decent people "deplorable" only got them to hate the democrats. Pandering to immigrant communities while ignoring the plight of the population who was already there was sure to backfire sooner or later. It just did.
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DarthBinks In reply to ??? [2018-03-01 02:20:46 +0000 UTC]

Still doesn't convince me at all that Trump is a good thing, but it really is important to understand the impact your party has on people both inside and outside its base.

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Aristodes In reply to DarthBinks [2018-03-01 02:24:33 +0000 UTC]

Trump's impact is mostly positive. The economy is booming, unemployment is way down, "social justice" is being removed from the government (especially the judiciary!), and the US is reasserting its rights to our own economy, our borders, our national sovereignty, etc.

Also, Trump's success proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that the left-wing media-academia complex cannot control what we think, how we feel, and how we vote. They don't get to determine what's right and wrong.

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jrgcrews21 In reply to ??? [2018-02-15 14:09:53 +0000 UTC]

You make good economic points. And I can see why people voted for Trump over Clinton when it came to gaining the support for blue collar workers. But what I don't agree with are the fear based tactics used against immigrants. The right tends to love that for some reason. Rather than putting the rightful blame on shitty economic policies, they put it on different ethnicities. You are pretty much trading one brand of collectivism for another.

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Aristodes In reply to jrgcrews21 [2018-02-15 17:28:32 +0000 UTC]

It's not fear-mongering when the fears are justified. It's not all immigrants who cause problems, but the illegal immigrants who do.

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glopme2 In reply to ??? [2018-01-25 03:12:12 +0000 UTC]

It's the most wonderful time in 8 years Yet some kids are protesting While Trump fans investing their time with good cheer Sing "It's the most wonderful time in 8 years" It's the hap-happiest voting season of all With each staff member Trump picks, Democrats up to their old tricks …Just trashing them all but It's the hap- happiest election season of all There’ll be one party hosting All three branches toasting but how low now will the press go They'll spin misguided stories Trying to steal Trump’s glory from a playbook written, long long ago It's the most wonderful time in 8 years They'll be much more enjoyment a lot less unemployment Cause Trump will be near It's the most wonderful time in 8 years (go up) Hillary’s party’s not hosing they’re no longer toasting, Beyonce, Kanye, Cop Killers, Racists and the Muslim Brotherhood They ignored true stories of Hillary who wasn’t sorry for her crimes now and long ago Now It's the most wonderful time in 8 Years We’ll deport all the criminals, Taxes will be minimal Bad trade deals disappear It's the most wonderful time yes the most wonderful time Oh the most wonderful time… in 8 years!

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pendraco In reply to glopme2 [2018-05-23 01:06:50 +0000 UTC]

still going to say that when he causes nuclear war?

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Path-Of-NoEnd In reply to ??? [2018-01-08 23:36:57 +0000 UTC]

Great piece, Aristodes.

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Aristodes In reply to Path-Of-NoEnd [2018-01-08 23:37:55 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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Path-Of-NoEnd In reply to Aristodes [2018-01-08 23:41:23 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome.

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drochunafurrey In reply to ??? [2017-12-12 05:53:18 +0000 UTC]

make America white again!

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Aristodes In reply to drochunafurrey [2017-12-12 14:09:49 +0000 UTC]

Don't be racist.

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drochunafurrey In reply to Aristodes [2017-12-12 14:37:15 +0000 UTC]

I cant. After all these "black" events in USA, Europe and Russia (especially with muslims) impossiple to stay tolerant. May be equality is lie and really on evolution ladder these people stay lower than we?

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shiyiyu In reply to drochunafurrey [2018-02-02 02:39:55 +0000 UTC]

wtf u r racist

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drochunafurrey In reply to shiyiyu [2018-02-02 06:57:23 +0000 UTC]

Yes. But aren't negroes/jews/muslims/latinos/ racistes? Like Jesus said - "Who of all you has no sins, throw first stone to that sinner."

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pendraco In reply to drochunafurrey [2018-05-23 01:10:52 +0000 UTC]

Muslims aren't a race, you idiot. they're a religion, and FYI, 90% of them are completely moderate. there's actually more crazed Christians than Muslims. it's the 10% of them that're Shia that're the a-holes to everyone, and even then, it's a very small percentage of them, the Haddafi sect, that're the guys who join up with Isis and such.


stupid thing is the more people treat muslims like shit, the more recruits Isis gets, because we're driving them to it.


also, if you're going to quote the bible, it's "let he who is without sin cast the first stone." You have no more right to mouth them off than they do you.


stop trying to use Jesus to make up for you being a shithole. he suffered for your sins, doesn't make you clean of them.

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Aristodes In reply to drochunafurrey [2017-12-12 15:48:30 +0000 UTC]

Please don't sink to those depths. Evolution doesn't work that fast. Civilization is only 6,000 years old.

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drochunafurrey In reply to Aristodes [2018-02-02 06:54:49 +0000 UTC]

As I see, on us evolution working harder and faster)

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Fidelibus In reply to ??? [2017-10-30 05:27:55 +0000 UTC]

He wasn't the best choice but he was all we had.

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shiyiyu In reply to Fidelibus [2018-02-02 02:40:36 +0000 UTC]

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Fidelibus In reply to shiyiyu [2018-02-02 02:42:12 +0000 UTC]

yup

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shiyiyu In reply to Fidelibus [2018-02-02 03:21:36 +0000 UTC]

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Fidelibus In reply to shiyiyu [2018-02-02 03:24:19 +0000 UTC]

My whole fam supports him, we live in Mexico yet we visited the US to vote for him

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shiyiyu In reply to shiyiyu [2018-02-02 03:22:43 +0000 UTC]

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Fidelibus In reply to shiyiyu [2018-02-02 03:24:35 +0000 UTC]

I'm neutral on him honestly but my fam loves him

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TO5 In reply to ??? [2017-10-26 23:12:13 +0000 UTC]

The war is not over. Mainstream media attacks, a damaged Congress, and ISIS is still occupying parts of Syria and Iraq. I'm sure there's more issues that need to be solved. Trump needs to drain the swamp, sooner rather than later.

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fred1009 [2017-10-24 20:32:42 +0000 UTC]

The problem is: Trump isn't the answer.

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Aristodes In reply to fred1009 [2017-10-24 22:02:39 +0000 UTC]

He's not the ideal choice, but he's at least as good as Reagan.

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LW97 In reply to Aristodes [2017-11-24 19:35:14 +0000 UTC]

Yes, the people often confuse conservativism with socialism.

And Trump is far from being like Hitler.

Hitler was definitely NOT conservative. He tried to create a new Germany and he changed the churches the way he wanted.

Hitler was a murderer and a monster.

Trump is nothing like that.

I personally see myself as "centrist".

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shiyiyu In reply to LW97 [2018-02-02 02:44:04 +0000 UTC]

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Suuno In reply to shiyiyu [2018-02-11 15:53:47 +0000 UTC]

wow fancy seeing you here : P I appreciate you as an artist and as an opinionated person but....
look....what the hell are you on about? First you compare socialists to Hitler. and then you say the only political ideology that refuses to listen to people's needs is fascism... literally, socialism and fascism are on complete opposite ends of the spectrum, so idk what u are trying to say. I agree that in excess, the left can be destructive, and we see the effect of this in many communist regimes, such as China's cultural revolution. (and America's cultural revolution!... oh wait....obama didn't take away the guns) However the right, in excess, as demonstrated by fascism's extreme nationalism and protectionism, can ALSO be damaging, which is I guess why leftists may in an overreaction compare Trump to Hitler. Villainising one side is just ignorant, whether you are left or right. 

What's ironic is you're complaining about leftists mindlessly villainising right wingers when you are doing the exact same thing- you aren't considering leftists all have certain economic bgs, life experiences and are actually human beings with rational thought, but nope, they are just mindless cultists who hate the other side. If you seriously believe this, you are who you are describing.....

Heck even fascism didn't "refuse to listen to people's needs"? They used people's needs to their advantage to gain power- they became popular in the public eye.
A few of my Chinese friends/relatives love Trump too. I don't hate the guy, he has a terrible tan tho, but I don't get it, especially since they're upper-middle class people who live in a communist-sympathizing country so they can't pull the /economically fucked by obama!!!!/ card >v>;

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shiyiyu In reply to Suuno [2018-05-30 22:15:00 +0000 UTC]

i am very sorry for what i said, i pulled you into this!! i am sooo sorry for what i have done!! i am soo sorry sunno!! i am sorry for everything. its all my fault that you got hurt!! sorry sorry sorry!

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Suuno In reply to shiyiyu [2018-06-07 09:53:43 +0000 UTC]

naw dw my man! no need to apologize, it's not your fault! If I comment on something controversial on the internet, It's my responsibility to expect people to lampoon me xD So no need to worry! We're all good, hopefully we can be friends! ^^

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shiyiyu In reply to Suuno [2018-06-13 16:10:24 +0000 UTC]

its my fault sorry it happend, thankyou for understanding    

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honestreview In reply to Suuno [2018-02-26 06:12:52 +0000 UTC]

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plastic-impersonator In reply to honestreview [2018-02-26 09:57:27 +0000 UTC]

you're a coward for posting a weak insult, not acknowledging anything I had to say and then blocking. 0.2/10 not impressed, honest review
i mean aahhaaha you literally just repeated the word "retarded". how old are you, your cognitive processes must be worse than a child's. A person like shiyiyu is worth 50x more than you, as she actually wants to engage in meaningful debate, don't kid yourself that you're defending a fellow ally against mean, "retarded" me. Ignorant people who want to block out other people's views are the real enemies of society's wisdom.
2nd account btw, go ahead and block this one too. this is all i can be bothered to say further.

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Path-Of-NoEnd In reply to LW97 [2018-01-08 23:36:20 +0000 UTC]

Well said, man.

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LW97 In reply to ??? [2017-10-22 12:31:03 +0000 UTC]

I honestly would like to have Trump in my country. Rather than Merkel.

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dogaln-drump In reply to ??? [2017-09-03 04:24:45 +0000 UTC]

I wish he was president where i live

Greetings from Estonia!

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clarkeco6 In reply to ??? [2017-06-20 04:01:02 +0000 UTC]

To each their own. And you might want to do some background about tRump. Search up his opinion on "Stop and Frisk."

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Aristodes In reply to clarkeco6 [2017-06-20 04:02:51 +0000 UTC]

Most of what is said against him falls into three categories:

1. Not what he actually said.
2. Taken out of context.
3. Not actually a bad thing.

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Suuno In reply to Aristodes [2018-02-11 16:43:12 +0000 UTC]

If it's not a bad thing, why do we need to try and defend it with "it was a long time ago!" or "it's not what he really meant!" or "bill did dodgy stuff too!" (bill isn't even a candidate so this is so irrelevant) ...? Pick one.
He was clearly making a distasteful joke or brag...somewhere between the two. For some people that would put them off trump, and others won't care about it, and just care abt his policies- the purely political. Either is not incorrect, so just stand by it?? If you defend it with more excuses you are basically admitting its actually a bad thing. 

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Aristodes In reply to Suuno [2018-02-11 17:01:48 +0000 UTC]

If he's being attacked unfairly, we need to defend him. The simple fact that someone is being defended isn't proof of guilt. You need to understand that.

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Suuno In reply to Aristodes [2018-02-12 09:29:04 +0000 UTC]

I wasn't saying it was proof of guilt. Guilt of what? If you believed what he did wasn't bad, then you don't need excuses. There's a difference between defending his actions and providing excuses for them. An excuse is a statement irrelevant to whether his actions are right or wrong, such as saying he did it a long time ago and people change (Trump isn't exactly popular for his class and eloquence in the first place so....), or that Bill did worse (Bill isn't even a candidate). Defending his actions is to say you believe that it was words, not actions, so it was a harmless,nevertheless distasteful joke; or to say that despite his statement, it doesn't change his policies and beliefs which you like him for....

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shiyiyu In reply to Suuno [2018-02-26 03:46:17 +0000 UTC]

but dude... its a common sense that if that witch made it into the government, his husband will too... and hilery said sooo many shit OMFG liberials r covering them up

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plastic-impersonator In reply to shiyiyu [2018-02-26 10:16:00 +0000 UTC]

yes so that is more like an argument against hillary becoming prez, not an argument related to trump's comment/action (?). It's diverting the focus of the argument somewhere else. it's not to say you can't discuss other unrelated things in posts; it's just diluting a would-be counter argument. but i was wrong in that i said it was irrelevant bcs he's not a candidate; it would be irrelevant if it was about hillary too. It's actually irrelevant bcs its nothing to do with trump's comment, which was the topic.

anyway even though I don't really like her i kinda feel sorry for hillary in a way because she has to bear the brunt of her husband's bad actions. when he was cheating on HER. kinda unfair. like, emails? her fault. bill cheating? uhhh not her fault.

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shiyiyu In reply to plastic-impersonator [2018-02-27 03:01:56 +0000 UTC]

said by the fucking rape victim of bill Clinton.... hilary is the bad guy in this rape. SHE IS GUILTY. even if she didnt do fucking anything why the fuck r they still together, it may sound like a personal question but it was exactly they r together, she SUPPORT BILL'S choice.("Mr. Trump may have said some bad words, but Bill Clinton raped me, and Hillary Clinton threatened me," Broaddrick added. "I don't think there's any comparison.")

she is a lying psychopathic witch, even tho most politicians r psychopathic and lying piece of shit but she is by FAR THE FUCKING WORST... she thought everyone is an idiot and she can get away with every motherfucking thing she did...... she wanna get away with the obvious shit she layed as much as possible by 'covering' civilian's eyes with fakeing laughs in front of every fucking minority groups... acting as if she cares about black community and any other minority community...in reality she does not care about it AT ALL.

quite watching main stream news and watch some small independent station, the main stream especially like crap such as CNN its fucking filled with 1000% fake news... ( they even fucking blame Pokemon go for fucking election and Russian interrogation).... news source now a days can not be trusted and many ppl r the victim of such false news reports








source:www.newsweek.com/did-hillary-c…

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clarkeco6 In reply to Aristodes [2017-06-20 04:04:07 +0000 UTC]

"Grab them by the pussy." How the fuck do you 'take that out of context'? He sure as hell wasn't talking about a cat.

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Aristodes In reply to clarkeco6 [2017-06-20 04:10:09 +0000 UTC]

That was a bad joke on his part, said over ten years ago. And he also said "they let you do it" meaning they consented to it. Distasteful, but not criminal or anything.

Bill Clinton, by contrast, actually did bad things of that sort. Repeatedly. While holding political office.

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clarkeco6 In reply to Aristodes [2017-06-20 04:11:23 +0000 UTC]

At least bill had the decency to serve a war. #draftdodger .

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Aristodes In reply to clarkeco6 [2017-06-20 05:48:32 +0000 UTC]

Bill Clinton wasn't in the armed services, IIRC.

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