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Published: 2009-10-07 05:14:56 +0000 UTC; Views: 5132; Favourites: 64; Downloads: 63
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Description Same as the chameleon, only done at home. Also female, though again without the secondary sexual characteristics people are most familiar with.

Did you know that sea turtles are the only warm-blooded reptiles?
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Solomen [2013-09-23 19:33:57 +0000 UTC]

Birds and Mammals are warm blooded reptiles.  Theropod and Synapsid reptiles to be specific

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Art-by-ifer In reply to Solomen [2013-09-24 12:35:50 +0000 UTC]

I am under the impression that Reptiles are a class of amniotes that excludes Mammals and Birds?

I mean, there are other, less common, methods of classification based on more recent observations, but that is the definition that the average layperson will be most familiar with. Generally people call lizards, snakes, crocodiles, turtles, etc "reptiles" while cats, squirrels, monkeys, and horses would be "mammals" and falcons, penguins, chickens, and doves are "birds".

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Solomen In reply to Art-by-ifer [2013-09-24 12:52:22 +0000 UTC]

Reptiles predate mammals and birds.  The two branches are still from the same trunk though.  Birds are descended from saurian reptiles specifically theropoda.  T-rex was technically a bird.  Mammals are descended from synapsid reptiles. 

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Art-by-ifer In reply to Solomen [2013-09-24 18:28:26 +0000 UTC]

While true, this does not affect common taxonomy. Single-celled organisms predate reptiles and are from the same trunk. This is not a good argument for dinosaurs being single-celled organisms.
T-rex wasn't a bird. Birds are technically dinosaurs, not the other way around.

I am not quite sure why you are arguing this at me. I am a layperson who worded an interesting science tidbit in a way that other non-science people would understand and find interesting, not a biology major proposing a new method of taxonomy.

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Solomen In reply to Art-by-ifer [2013-09-24 23:30:55 +0000 UTC]

Birds predate T-rex. 

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Art-by-ifer In reply to Solomen [2013-09-25 14:50:29 +0000 UTC]

That they do. T-Rex even had feathers and stuff.
Tyrannosauroids , however, diverged from Coelurosaurs before Avialae did. Which means that Tyrannosaurus and birds had a common ancestor, but split up long before birds were a thing.


Seriously, dude(ette). Why are you doing this. I am looking things up on wikipedia here. I do not understand why you have chosen to argue at me.

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Solomen In reply to Art-by-ifer [2013-09-25 16:30:23 +0000 UTC]

Just the whole warm-blooded reptile thing... The classification of reptile is very vague... like fish things never stop being what their ancestors were... they just add onto it

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Art-by-ifer In reply to Solomen [2013-09-26 16:14:22 +0000 UTC]

I do not believe that is the true - it may be difficult to find the exact point at which there is a switch from one group to another though - but I don't want to keep arguing this either.

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Solomen In reply to Art-by-ifer [2013-09-26 16:23:25 +0000 UTC]

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nokinno [2012-05-08 00:16:04 +0000 UTC]

That looks awesome!

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Art-by-ifer In reply to nokinno [2012-05-09 17:34:29 +0000 UTC]

Thanks

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ShinobuTomoe [2010-04-26 20:09:55 +0000 UTC]

love it. my fiancee is a turtle hybrid fanatic and i have followed suit! this is a great rendition!

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Art-by-ifer In reply to ShinobuTomoe [2010-04-27 05:51:07 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much

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molten-fire-and-ice [2010-01-08 01:38:07 +0000 UTC]

Darn, I go and say that the chameleon is my favourite before remember this one...can they be in separate categories cuz this one was done at home? Because this one just blows my mind. I love how much detail has gone into this picture. I think my favourite aspect would have to be the way you made her fins widen into hands at their ends: beautiful.

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Art-by-ifer In reply to molten-fire-and-ice [2010-01-09 02:41:45 +0000 UTC]

Well, you technically said that the chameleon was your favorite from Feral!, so I think we can say so. Thanks; I'm really happy with how her right hand turned out. Left one, not so much, but still. XD And dang, but those details took a while to do.

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RobinBirdy [2009-10-14 00:47:44 +0000 UTC]

awesome! this one is one of my faves.

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Art-by-ifer In reply to RobinBirdy [2009-10-14 12:20:52 +0000 UTC]

Thanks. I'm glad you like it. You know, you should get an avatar. You is looking a bit bland. (No offence)

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RobinBirdy In reply to Art-by-ifer [2009-10-18 20:53:23 +0000 UTC]

i tried but my stuff is too big, any suggestions?

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Art-by-ifer In reply to RobinBirdy [2009-10-19 00:12:11 +0000 UTC]

You've got 4 options:
- Shrink everything you've got and see if one of them looks OK small.
- Make something specifically for your avatar either on the computer or on paper.
- Find a free avatar to use.
- Ask someone to do one for you :3

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