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Published: 2007-04-21 00:44:10 +0000 UTC; Views: 5387; Favourites: 37; Downloads: 0
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detail from a larger work on paper - alternately titled BOGOMIL'S TEMPLE (as listed in my inventory)Related content
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ArtOfTheMystic In reply to suzanastojanovic [2007-10-23 23:03:02 +0000 UTC]
It's a poor photo of just a detail of the piece. I plan on getting it back (currently on loan), then I'll get a better image. Thanks for dropping in!
Cheers
Otto
PS: vote for me at the Saachi Gallery Showdown: [link]
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StephanusEmbricanus [2007-04-23 11:07:28 +0000 UTC]
We used that technique with gouache mixed with some wallpaper-glum to make the the water more sticky and different materials to squeeze for different structures. After drying you can strengthen details or wash out, for changing tones and intensity and some hightlighting with white colour. In the end you can fix it with varnish. Thats a variation of that technique as I know it.
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ArtOfTheMystic In reply to StephanusEmbricanus [2007-04-23 19:18:24 +0000 UTC]
sounds like a interesting variation, particularly the fact that it is reworkable until you fix it. What's the ph of wallpaper glue? After some 30 years, I found some drawings of mine that had glue dabs on it deteriorated in those spots.
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StephanusEmbricanus In reply to ArtOfTheMystic [2007-04-24 05:17:18 +0000 UTC]
I did that on some wood panels with acrylic gesso those images are stlll alive after more than 25 years. I think you can use gelantine or fish-glum also, the thing is to make the water sticky that the squeezed structures do not get fluid.
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ArtOfTheMystic In reply to StephanusEmbricanus [2007-04-28 18:55:28 +0000 UTC]
Oh, I get it! This is what I actually achieve with acrylics: you just have to get the consistency right - too fluid and it's runny, too thick and its just a gooey mess. Inbetween, you control the 'branching effect' by fluidity, like, finer or coarser tack. You know, I keep talking (and it's nice to talk to you), but it's about time I start producing - so
Cheers
Otto
PS: Good to know it lasts - allways a worry of mine when experimenting....
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ArtOfTheMystic In reply to gromyko [2007-04-23 19:13:47 +0000 UTC]
Acrylic on Arches etching paper, gessoed and sized with acrylic gloss medium. Some of the images are done directly, others apliqued after being created on plastic sheeting (kind of a transfer technique).
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gromyko In reply to ArtOfTheMystic [2007-04-24 01:51:57 +0000 UTC]
brilliant as ever otto...
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mathismondhut [2007-04-22 09:24:05 +0000 UTC]
lol I also started to work in this technique, but eeerrrmmm not so realistic and with so much style, but we all should be thankfull that the great Dominguez showed us this.....
you get a star on this my brother
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Deborah-Valentine [2007-04-21 20:47:04 +0000 UTC]
I just couldn't wait for it to load! completely love it!
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ArtOfTheMystic In reply to Deborah-Valentine [2007-04-22 19:05:32 +0000 UTC]
The original is on loan to CP Rail, but I will take it back anon, then I will reproduce the whole of it, since this is only 1/3.
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Deborah-Valentine In reply to ArtOfTheMystic [2007-04-22 19:34:16 +0000 UTC]
i bet it is majestic
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Paul88 [2007-04-21 18:14:34 +0000 UTC]
Brilliant! at college as part of my project im doing surrealism, and need to do a sketchbook of painting techniques includeing surrealist painting techniques, could you explain how you do this technique please? cheers.
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ArtOfTheMystic In reply to Paul88 [2007-04-21 18:31:43 +0000 UTC]
Decalcomania [link]
I had to adapt to acrylics. Basically, I use two different approaches:
1. thin layer of colors on support (canvas, wood, paper) that has a somewhat glossy surface (acrylic gloss medium over the usual gesso), then dip plastic sheets, rags, crumpled paper etc. in it, smudge around etc.
or 2. do the same thing on a sheet of plastic.
Then, in the case of 1.: paint out unwanted areas
in case of 2: paint bg colors (white or pastel) over wanted areas, then coat with acrylic medium and stick on a support (wood, canvas), let completely bone-dry and then lift off plastic sheet (sometimes, spray of water is needed to help the separation).
It takes a lot of experimentation to find out what works, consistency of paint etc.
Cheers
Otto
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Paul88 In reply to ArtOfTheMystic [2007-04-23 14:24:24 +0000 UTC]
Thanks alot, i've experimented a little like that on a new painting im working on, here it is unfinished - [link] - the brown finished bit in the middle of the form, i used cling film on thin wet oil, then worked into it when dry..
Cheers, Paul.
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ArtOfTheMystic In reply to Paul88 [2007-04-28 19:27:46 +0000 UTC]
Interesting! That's exactly the reverse of what I do: I usually make a mess on the support, then work into it and remove what I don't want. For what you are doing, you could also affix transfers off the cling film, but in oils, I don't know how that would work. Acrylics dry fast, so once dry, you can then transfer to the support by sticking it on with acrylic medium. I guess you know you can't mix these media (except that you can do oil over acrylic, but not vice versa).
Cheers
Otto
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emaghrabi [2007-04-21 00:59:43 +0000 UTC]
oh la la..
How long does it take you to do such detailed paintings?
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ArtOfTheMystic In reply to emaghrabi [2007-04-21 17:49:09 +0000 UTC]
Surprisingly, less time than the 'formal' paintings. It's a process called decalcomania [link] which was employed by the surrealists some 60 years ago.... like Max Ernst [link]
I just found a way to use the technique with acrylics, and plan on using it crossing over into digital, like in this experimental piece [link] where I scanned the painted decalcomania piece and added a digital background in photoshop.
Cheers
Otto
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emaghrabi In reply to ArtOfTheMystic [2007-04-21 22:46:00 +0000 UTC]
interesting technique indeed. i should try it sometime. I would really appreciate if you could lead me to a WIP using this.
The results are really stunning.
Thank you so muhc for sharing your experience with this technique and the explaination.
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ArtOfTheMystic In reply to emaghrabi [2007-04-23 19:20:03 +0000 UTC]
you have to explain WIP to a ludite (I am not up on all these acronyms.....)
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emaghrabi In reply to ArtOfTheMystic [2007-04-23 23:34:32 +0000 UTC]
ohh I am sorry.. It means work in progress. I meant to see I would be really interested to see one of your great paintings develop from scratch. I learned a lot through this way from sites like artpapa and wet canvis.
some artist don't like this though, so it is ok if you don;t.
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ArtOfTheMystic In reply to emaghrabi [2007-04-28 19:08:12 +0000 UTC]
Never thought of taking pics while I am working. Posting WIP pics after I am finished wouldn't bother me if I had any, but having people watch me work is entirely different. That I don't like. Maybe its because I am a perfectionist, and can't stand the thought of people catching me make mistakes, or else even the slightest comment either way throws me off my track (for that reason - no comission work either). I have to do my thing without any outside input, otherwise, it's not my thing anymore, but theirs.
Thanks for taking an interest, sorry I can't accomodate you, but maybe in future, I'll take progress shots.....
Cheers
Otto
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emaghrabi In reply to ArtOfTheMystic [2007-04-29 06:17:04 +0000 UTC]
It is ok..
I understand what you mean..
Take care
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