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Published: 2008-12-26 20:05:56 +0000 UTC; Views: 2417; Favourites: 28; Downloads: 0
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Black ink on white cartridge paper.Just playing around here ... may play with it some more ...dunno yet.
It's around 6"x6" and took around ermm ... 15 hours to do I think.
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Quaddles-Roost [2008-12-31 08:26:18 +0000 UTC]
Takes me back to my college days - spent ages drawing shells, thanks
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Artwyrd In reply to Quaddles-Roost [2009-01-03 11:28:58 +0000 UTC]
I got engrossed in shells and fossils while I was doing my A level a few years back ... there's something lovely about spirals and swirly shapes!
I'm glad you like
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Artwyrd In reply to MaldonadoR [2008-12-28 07:43:53 +0000 UTC]
Thank you, and for favouriting it too
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Artwyrd In reply to yamixhikari [2008-12-26 20:18:37 +0000 UTC]
I'm glad you do, and thank you for adding it to your favourites
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yamixhikari In reply to Artwyrd [2008-12-27 08:34:08 +0000 UTC]
No Problem, you're welcome my friend! I love your awesome art!
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Artwyrd In reply to ninjarat1 [2008-12-26 20:12:14 +0000 UTC]
I'm glad you like it! Thank you for the favourite
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ninjarat1 In reply to Artwyrd [2008-12-26 20:14:44 +0000 UTC]
Pardon me for asking, but are those mathematically accurate shells, or are you just playing with freeform shapes?
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Artwyrd In reply to ninjarat1 [2008-12-26 20:18:06 +0000 UTC]
Just freeform, hand-drawn, doodly inspiration kind of things
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ninjarat1 In reply to Artwyrd [2008-12-26 20:24:58 +0000 UTC]
oh. okay. well, it still looks cool so... yeah.
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Artwyrd In reply to ninjarat1 [2008-12-27 19:28:08 +0000 UTC]
I spent a long time drawing ammonites and shells for my A level art a couple of years ago ... so I tend to be able to draw them instinctively.
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ninjarat1 In reply to Artwyrd [2008-12-27 22:12:04 +0000 UTC]
I see. You should learn how to draw a log spiral though, it's really fun! Do you like Escher?
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Artwyrd In reply to ninjarat1 [2008-12-28 07:42:10 +0000 UTC]
A log spiral? A log would be bulky to draw with If it involves maths, numbers and logarithms I'd go 'EEK' and run a mile - it's to do with the golden ratio?
I love Escher - one of the first artists I remember as a child. My older sister is 10 years older than me, and I have memories of the psychedelic art she did in the 60s and her love of art in general, Escher being one from that time for her.
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ninjarat1 In reply to Artwyrd [2008-12-28 09:59:53 +0000 UTC]
Escher pioneered 3D graphics without knowing it. He figured out how the math worked, then had the patience to plot every last bit of it, then shade according to the surface normals. I have deepest respect for the man as a mathematician as well as an artist. Brilliant combo if you ask me.
As for math and art, they go hand in hand. You may not realize it but every time you draw something or make music your brain does math, but if you aren't terribly "linked," what it's called when you have a large corpus collosi (the part of your brain that communicates between the left and right hemispheres), if yours is small, what you say and what you understand are farther apart, so while you can catch a ball by solving a high order differential equation for an affected parabola, you have no idea how to express it in the language of mathematics.
A log spiral is simply a spiral who's cone width follows a perfect log curve. Snail shells are a good example. And while we're at it the Fibonacci sequence shows up in sunflowers. Math is truly the language of the universe.
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I'm talking you in to oblivion. Sorry.
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Artwyrd In reply to ninjarat1 [2008-12-30 14:59:21 +0000 UTC]
I've found in my art that when I try to measure and work things out in that way, things tend to go "all to pot", so I just let my mind do what it needs to do so that my hand-eye coordination works to represent what I see, or what I imagine, or just what shapes please me.
The scientist part of me (I am a scientist, I teach science and have a doctorate) likes accuracy and exactness and perfection, and the artist in me wants to add personal expression, colours that reflect feelings and atmosphere, and subtle readjustments that don't change what is there, but enhances it. The scientist has to learn to let go of all the detail so the artist can express the myriad of leaves on a tree in a pattern/expressive way.
I don't know if that makes sense - but I don't really think about doing art I just do it. The same as when I play music, learning a piece I have to count the beat, but once I'm familiar with the rhythms of various collections of notes I play without needing to count consciously, and when that happens I feel I'm flowing with the music, or with the art and it is a joyous and happy experience for me. Especially when there's a subtle deviation from the mechanised way of playing/drawing/painting/creating to something that is personal, unique ...
Maths is one way of expressing the universe, but it is not the only way
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ninjarat1 In reply to Artwyrd [2008-12-30 18:43:37 +0000 UTC]
it is the only way of expressing the universe purely as it is. however artists do something different. they express an emotional interpretation of the universe. this emotional interpretation is not real, but the universe is. the reason we can never fully know the universe and must substitute our interpretations (objects coherent in the mind) is because reality is to the mind as television is to the eye. you only see through such a small window so briefly.
my point is, we need imagination because we have to fill the void left by our limited senses. and we need to communicate everything, but not necessarily linguistically. thus, visual artists were born.
so I'm not actually disagreeing with you. you don't need to use math this is true, but the math geek in me really thinks math is zesty.
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Artwyrd In reply to ninjarat1 [2009-01-03 11:38:53 +0000 UTC]
Oh, our senses are really limited aren't they, and 'cos the brain processes sensory input, it itself is limited ... and maths is a product of the brain and well ...
And what is reality anyways? Is it how our brains filter out the information it recieves from very limited senses? Or is there more to the Universe than we or science can percieve?
I think science and spirituality (in the widest sense, consciousness perhaps is a better word) are beginning to converge once again after diverging at the birth of the scientific method. Scientists (brain, quantum, and so on) are beginning to talk in very similar ways to the ways mystics have always talked ... interesting times ahead methinks...
And the philosophical debate around what is reality, what is truth, do we see 'green' in the same way, when we stand side by side do we experience the same 'reality', is always an interesting one, and is there any one truth? And I know you're not disagreeing, and I'm not disagreeing with you, it's just maths is some alien language to me (unless I need to use it as a tool for scientific analysis, and then I prefer a computer to do it as it's less likely to make mistakes or be distracted than I am, and the numbers tend not to take on a life of their own and walk all over the page to play variations on the game of croquet with +, -, x and other mathematical operators).
But isn't it wonderful people can talk about the same kind of thing, but from different angles - all talking about the same gemstone (Universe) but looking at a different facet...
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