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AshleyKayley In reply to Zoe-the-Pink-Ranger [2014-04-10 14:35:59 +0000 UTC]

I was a model ahead there, I guess too much time in The Old Republic MMO corrupted my memory. I went back and reviewed the conversation she has with the "protocol droid", and he actually doesn't give a model number designation, so we'll leave it at HK for now, until she gets the full story.

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HassatHunter In reply to AshleyKayley [2014-04-19 13:41:58 +0000 UTC]

The HK-51's appear in the Droid Factory on Telos though (cut content).
Of course, BioWare happily ignored that for The Old Republic, and pretty much entirely rewrote them.

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Zoe-the-Pink-Ranger In reply to AshleyKayley [2014-04-10 14:39:17 +0000 UTC]

Wow, that was a quick edit and response

I'm glad you're back
And yeah, the MMO can be most corrupting

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HassatHunter In reply to Zoe-the-Pink-Ranger [2014-04-19 13:42:03 +0000 UTC]

The HK-51's appear in the Droid Factory on Telos though (cut content).
Of course, BioWare happily ignored that for The Old Republic, and pretty much entirely rewrote them.

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Zoe-the-Pink-Ranger In reply to HassatHunter [2014-04-19 13:54:06 +0000 UTC]

I suspect BioWare ignored it specifically because the droid faction was cut.

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HassatHunter In reply to Zoe-the-Pink-Ranger [2014-04-19 14:37:40 +0000 UTC]

Could be... but they ignored too much of KOTOR2 that was in the game I find it unlikely that they made that distinct difference.

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Zoe-the-Pink-Ranger In reply to HassatHunter [2014-04-19 14:58:57 +0000 UTC]

What, in particular, would you say they ignored?

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HassatHunter In reply to Zoe-the-Pink-Ranger [2014-04-19 15:54:06 +0000 UTC]

Remembered another big one, that the authors completely overlooked.

* That the Exile and Revan were actually enemies, instead of big good friends as they are in TOR.

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Lord0Slayer In reply to HassatHunter [2014-04-28 23:36:01 +0000 UTC]

When were they enemies, though? The Exile willingly served under Revan during the Mandalorian Wars. It was implied that Revan set her up to be in the middle of the Mass Shadow Generator's area of effect because her loyalty to him wasn't absolute. Up till that point I've never heard of them being enemies. 

The Revan book was pretty bad after the second half. Exile's personality is gone and she becomes just shy of a love sick puppy for Revan, no mention is made of her adventures or companions, or the obvious parallels the Emperor's abilities have with her and Darth Nihilus. And the ending...Sigh. It was just very disappointing.

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HassatHunter In reply to Lord0Slayer [2014-05-04 08:53:04 +0000 UTC]

As can be seen in my reply to Zoe;
Scorchy can probably tell it much better than me, so I hope this link will suffice;
lparchive.org/Knights-of-the-O…
" So with that in mind, I propose this theory: Revan and the Exile never got along.

On a gut level, you'd think they would have, but I think this is purely because after playing KOTOR 1 and 2 you were in each of their shoes respectively. You saw each of their viewpoints, and it would make sense to you that everything was all rainbows and ponies between them.

But consider this:
- Revan 'cleaned house' at Malachor V; he sent the troops that he didn't like to either die there, or be shocked into converting to his cause. Guess who ended up there? The Exile.
- The Exile wasn't recruited to the war by Revan. We saw in the Korriban cave that it was initially Malak who convinced him.
- After the war, Revan used the Exile as a tool again. This time as an agent of dissent, intended to break the Jedi Council. That wouldn't be something you would do to a friend or trusted ally.
- Everyone talks about the loyalty that Revan inspired in his followers, but the one Jedi who consciously stopped following Revan following the Mandalorian War? The Exile.

It's not terribly important in the grand scheme of things, but it's interesting."

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Zoe-the-Pink-Ranger In reply to HassatHunter [2014-04-19 16:32:28 +0000 UTC]

Revan and the Exile were never enemies. The Exile was a friend (or at least a follower) of Revan until Malachor V. She returned in disgrace when she cut herself off from the Force. Though a lot of how the Exile feels about Revan in KotOR2 depends on how we played her, the Revan book (which sucks) has her having admired him while they were both Jedi, and kinda fancying him a bit iirc (Bastila gets all upset that T3 went to the Exile and not her).
I haven't met Kreia yet in tOR.
I can't remember running into anything Goto-y.
What I have seen suggests that as far as tOR is concerned, KotOR2 happened, but some of the details were reworked. Mical (the Disciple) gets at least one mention in the crew skill missions.

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HassatHunter In reply to Zoe-the-Pink-Ranger [2014-04-27 16:01:47 +0000 UTC]

Sorry for the late reply, kind of forgot about this.
Scorchy can probably tell it much better than me, so I hope this link will suffice;
lparchive.org/Knights-of-the-O…
" So with that in mind, I propose this theory: Revan and the Exile never got along.

On a gut level, you'd think they would have, but I think this is purely because after playing KOTOR 1 and 2 you were in each of their shoes respectively. You saw each of their viewpoints, and it would make sense to you that everything was all rainbows and ponies between them.

But consider this:
- Revan 'cleaned house' at Malachor V; he sent the troops that he didn't like to either die there, or be shocked into converting to his cause. Guess who ended up there? The Exile.
- The Exile wasn't recruited to the war by Revan. We saw in the Korriban cave that it was initially Malak who convinced him.
- After the war, Revan used the Exile as a tool again. This time as an agent of dissent, intended to break the Jedi Council. That wouldn't be something you would do to a friend or trusted ally.
- Everyone talks about the loyalty that Revan inspired in his followers, but the one Jedi who consciously stopped following Revan following the Mandalorian War? The Exile.

It's not terribly important in the grand scheme of things, but it's interesting."

It's a lore entry, which states G0-T0 was one of many G0-T0 droids that were send by some foreign power to create dissent in the galaxy. As KOTOR2 player you obviously know that's absolute bull. And there are many more small trinkets like this ingame.

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Zoe-the-Pink-Ranger In reply to HassatHunter [2014-04-27 19:53:26 +0000 UTC]

It would seem that there is much I do not entirely remember.
Thanks for the link


As for the G0-T0 thing, I wouldn't be surprised if someone confused its motives with those of the HK-50s. From earlier source, "our" Goto was established as being one of many droids that were supposed to help organise the rebuilding of the Republic, but it ran into a logic bomb when it decided that the "Rebuild the Republic" and "Uphold all laws of the Republic" directives were fundamentally incompatible so it broke its programming and became a crime lord.

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HassatHunter In reply to Zoe-the-Pink-Ranger [2014-04-19 15:52:33 +0000 UTC]

* Exile's storyline.
* Goto's storyline (completely re-written ingame).
* The leadup for Revan in KOTOR2.
* What Kreia was (just look what they did to her in TOR, it's pretty horrible).
* HK's plotline (although, sure, it was cut. Made cannon though)

Probably many more, but it's been a while since I played TOR last, and I never read the 'Revan book' but what I hear about that make me cringe and never want to read it either.

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