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This was not much of an email question, just more of an email recognition. I got an email from someone who looked at my previous influence map which can be found hereatheosemanon.deviantart.com/ar…
and said it was cool how I had people of different views.. so I decided to just add a few more people.. so I took about 10 mins going over it and decided to add a few more people.. as with the ones already on there..some liberal, some conservative, some libertarian.. some democrat, some republican, artists.. all of which I can point to and evoke some feeling of agreement in this or that and all of which which influence my views on a wide array of subjects - note just because they are here does not mean that I fully support their ideals or stated aims.. it simply means that there is something in the individual either in a generality of interest, aim, scope of a specific or particular idea etc that have influenced me in the generality of my views or on a particular subject matter.
the bottom 4 rows are those that have been added.. so from number 60-85
As with the previous one.. if you do not know who any of them are.. click here .. check the number over their picture and then look at this list
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1. Friedrich Engels
2. A. Philip Randolph
3. A. J. Muste
4. Thurgood Marshall
5. Vladimir Lenin
6. Karl Marx
7. Albert Einstein
8. William Lloyd Garrison
9. Bayard Rustin
10. Henry David Thoreau
11. Howard Zinn
12. Hubert Harrison
13. Huey P. Newton
14. Barbara Ehrenreich
15. Charles Darwin
16. Bertrand Russell
17. Leon Trotsky
18. Mary White Ovington
19. Mary Harris "Mother" Jones
20. Martin Luther King Jr.
21. Bobby Seale
22. Richard Dawkins
23. Eugene V. Debs.
24. Mohandas Gandhi
25. Thomas Paine
26. Nelson Mandela
27. Cornel West
28. Friedrich Nietzsche
29. George Bernard Shaw
30. Norman Thomas
31. Coretta Scott King
32. Medgar Evers
33. Thomas Jefferson
34. Fidel Castro
35. Madalyn Murray O'Hair
36. Harvey Milk
37. Upton Sinclair
38. Franklin D. Roosevelt
39. Lyndon B. Johnson
40. Abraham Lincoln
41. Rose Pastor Stokes
42. W. E. B. Du Bois
43. Baruch Spinoza
44. Carl Sagan
45. Daniel Dennett
46. Epicurus
47. Sam Harris
48. Maya Angelou
49. George Carlin
50. Alfred Russel Wallace
51. Christopher Hitchens
52. Albert Camus
53. Noam Chomsky
54. James Baldwin
55. Percy Bysshe Shelley
56. Pete Stark
57. Malcolm X
58. Frederick Douglass
59. Sitting Bull
60. Frances Perkins
61. Florence Kelley
62. Eleanor Roosevelt
63. Thaddeus Stevens
64. John Brown
65. Bernie Sanders
66. Theodore Roosevelt
67. Earl Warren
68. Louis Brandeis
69. Bill Moyers
70. Dorothy Day
71. Michael Harrington
72. Jane Addams
73. Angela Davis
74. Emma Goldman
75. Elijah Cummings
76. Robert M. La Follette, Sr.
77. Barry Goldwater
78. Saul Alinsky
79. John F. Kennedy
80. John Lewis
81. Alan Grayson
82. Isaac Newton
83. Neil DeGrasse Tyson
84. Jimmy Carter
85. Audre Lorde
Copied from previous influence map done:
"Some of these people have made major impacts on my life, some I have had the pleasure of meeting in person, or at the very least seeing them speak at certain events around the United States and abroad. I have read literally hundreds of pages on each of the people mentioned above, for the most part I agree with them all. Though there are some things with some of them I also may not agree with on certain political, or social issues.
When looking at some other “Influence Maps” many of them did not have the reasons why they chose each individual person. I think looking at all of my past writings on what topics are passionate to me that it would be quite easy to see why I choose these individual people for my influence chart."
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Because, as far as a general philosophical view, he is of a greater influence to me than she was..
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Can you link me to any sources of information or recommend books on Leon Trotsky and Lenin? Often I've hear Joseph Stalin, Leon Trotsky, and Vladimir Lenin painted in a generally negative perspective. While I know Stalin's reputation is deserved, I do not know much about Lenin or Trotsky.
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Totsky has a booked, his autobiography called "My life" written in 1930 .. 10 years before Stalin had him killed,
If you mean books by Lenin himself?
"The State and Revolution" 1917
"Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism" 1917
What is to be done 1902
Left Wing communism an infantile disorder 1920
...and many more but there are also many books written about Lenin
Lenin himself wrote about a dozen books.. many can be found in pdf form simply by googling books on lenin
As far as "links" simply Ebay or Amazon their names in the "books" section and you will find Dozens on Trotsky but probably over 100 on Lenin
I shall leave the subjective "negative" and "positive" perspective to you... I have over a dozen books on Trotsky and my library has about 30 books on Lenin.. some by him, some in support of him and some very anti Lenin.. I personally like to read from all sides..
When I say "influence" I am speaking of there are things I liked about both, I probably would disagree with their world ideals or rather their societal wants... but such is life.
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I might check out The Revolution Betrayed along with My Life for Trotsky.
Doesn't surprise me that Lenin would have so much book from him and about him. A very controversial figure that's both made famous and infamous. I'll be sure to look at other intellectual perspectives on Lenin and Trotsky
Well let me say that I think you've made chosen some very good influences among this list. Especially the Roosevelts', Eugene V. Debs, Robert La Follete(wish more governors were like him), and Thomas Paine, who is my favorite founding father along with Alexander Hamilton and James Madison.
Thanks for the suggestions.
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Yeah, Lenin was much more well-known than Trotsky - and yes, he is a very controversial figure. Some things some may agree with him and others they may find detestable..
Yeah, it is always best to get opposing views on a person - - some people who like certain leaders tend to get only books that praise them but refuse to read any books that are overly critical of the person they respect ... it is hard to debate figures if you do not know the possible arguments one may use against them - - and as such you would ten be knowledgeable on both sides to be able to counter said arguments.
Paine is also my favorite founding father.
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I am sure it does, so.. would you like to debate something of substance or just start commenting over my stuff about Kool Aid, Bath salts and such?
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There can be little if any debate between the 2 of us Atheos,you're firmly indoctrinated in the Libs camp.
I'll not change your mind any more than you can change mine.
I do take comfort in knowing that my GOD will end the Libs reign of terror forever though.
The way you present Lib ideology is like a beer commercial,you only show the pleasant side,friends having fun while drinking. What you don't show is the effects of liberalism,much like an alcoholic who destroys his life with his drinking problem.
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No to the LORD ending the Libs reign of terror?
Atheos,do you really think your side can defeat him in personal combat?
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There's one problem with what you're saying; your god isn't real, therefore he won't end anything. And to answer your question to Atheos, assuming the whole "if you don't show up you lose" rule is in effect, then yes, we would beat him, because he isn't going to show up.
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No,JEHOVAH is very real and unfortunately,you'll find that out when it's to late.
Hopefully,you'll stop drinking the Kool-Aid and come to your senses but I doubt it.
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Oh, I'm a kool-aid drinker am I? Let me ask a simple question, can you site any secular, irrefutable evidence that validates any of the magical claims of the bible, yes or no?
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Absolutely!
Why of course,but it's not like you'd actually listen to any evidence I'd present anyway.
Biblical Prophecy is being fulfilled as we speak. The Bloodmoons are but one example.
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That's not much of a "magical" claim, blood moons have been observed for thousands of years. There have been several in the past few centuries. And we know exactly why they happen. This is tantamount to someone claiming that the sun will rise after they've just claimed they can fly when no one is looking.
If it's irrefutable and secular evidence that validates a magical claim (like creditable historical documents outside of the bible that validate Jesus floating into the sky all on his own) I won't have anything to say. The problem is that you haven't given me that, all you've done is basically give yourself an excuse for why you can't and simultaneously proved something that isn't a magical claim. Maybe you should try again and prove something that hasn't been observed repeatedly and been easily explained by science (hence why it isn't magical). And please don't give me another "magical claim" that isn't the least bit magical, it just makes you seems silly and uneducated.
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Sigh...You're a hardcore kool-Aid drinker and Antichrister.
There's little,if any hope for you whatsoever.
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Translation:
"No, I have zero secular, irrefutable evidence (like a credible historical document) that validates EVEN ONE of the magical claims of the bible, such as Jesus floating into Heaven."
It's ok my little untermensch, I knew you weren't going to provide any evidence. But hey, keep telling yourself that atheists are the kool-aid drinkers for being the crazy nutters who ask for such satanic and Antichrist things as EVIDENCE, LOL! XD See ya short-bus.
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I have plenty of evidence but because it comes from the Bible and Conservative/Christian Sources you won't accept/believe it.
Plenty of other folks have post info and links for you Antichristers,your kind NEVER accepts it.
Now,SLINK back to your Hag Masters and give them your report.
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When something is true there should be unbiased, empirical, corroborating evidence for it. Do you know how much secular, scientific, irrefutable evidence I could bring up that confirms the claims Darwin made in The Origin of Species? I could find hundreds of pieces of evidence that confirm his claims. If I said the claims Ann Frank made in her diary were true and someone asked me to provide corroborating evidence that validates her claims of Jewish persecution, I could also do that. It'd be very easy. You however can't seem to find me EVEN ONE corroborating piece of reliable evidence that confirms the bible's magical claims of things like talking Donkeys and talking snakes. You just go to the same source that made the claim knowing that there is zero evidence that corroborates with it. It's like if someone believed the Spider-Man stories were true. Bottom line, you can't prove any of your beliefs the way I can, and not only that, but your actually arrogant enough to proclaims yourself my intellectual superior, when you admit you can't even prove your absurd beliefs with unbiased evidence. Fuck you, you narcissistic asshole. Your god isn't real, and your the "kool-aid" drinker for honestly thinking that you're smarter than any atheist you've ever debated when we can bring evidence to the table and you can't.
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The "evidence" you claim is unbiased is anything but,it's nothing more than brainwashing propaganda.
BTW,there's NO WAY I'd ever be desperate enough to have sex with you,I'd sooner sleep with a retarded Wart Hog,it'd be more intelligent and better looking.
Now,scurry back to your Hag Masters and give them your report.
This message was sent to you by powerful Conservative Juju.
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Don't flatter yourself mate. I wasn't offering you anything. I'd never want to ride your pathetic micro-penis. I'd feel as if I fucked a three year old if I did, because mentally speaking, you are one.
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Riiight.
How would you know what sex with a 3yr old feels like? Hmmm...
Now,scurry back to your Hag Masters and give them your report.
Sent to you by powerful Conservative Juju.
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Yes,Atheos and millions look forward to that day.
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Sigh...Now who's in denial.Are you honestly saying there aren't millions of Christians who're looking forward to GOD's return/
You're huffing some strong Jenkem.
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I mean you make broad claims, but will not prove them..
You used to at least debate, years ago at least and now you just make accusations and if anyone disagrees then they are a liberal who is drinking some Kool-Aid..
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Atheos,do you honestly deny that there are millions of REAL Christians in the World today?
There can be no true debate with Libs,most refuse to read any material which goes against the party line and with *CHARISMATIC INDIVIDUALS such as yourself influencing the masses,the hostile takeover is imminent.
* Yes,Atheos,you are charismatic and you ply these impressionable children with your honeyed words.
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I do not know your definition of a "real" Christian. I do know on this planet that nearly 2 billion people claim to be Christians or identify themselves as Christian - - though unsure what your definition of a "Real Christian" is .
- - Sure, I am rather unsure what children you are referring to - - but I am sure there is some story behind that as well.
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A REAL Christian would NOT support gay "rights' for starters.
But,out of the 2 billion,isn't it likely to assume that a few million are looking forward to GOD's return?
Why the confused high school/stoner college kids that converse with you,of course.
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So real is based upon what you believe they should or should not support.. well I am sure by that definition of "real" then I would imagine there are millions of Christians that share your view of things.
So are you a confused high school/stoner college kid? I mean you have been commenting my stuff for three years now..
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No,it's based on what GOD says they should support.
Yes,there are millions of us.
No,I haven't bought a single drop of the bullshit that you're selling.
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The old testament condemns many a things the cutting of facial hair, working on the sabbath was punishable by death, eating shell fish made one unclean and should be shunned.. wearing a garment of two different fabrics meant one should be kicked out of the tribe and so on... for many of those that believe in such texts, they have moved away from most of those things and for some reason, still focus on the gay sex part...
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Some of those laws pertained to Jews only and others aren't supported in the new testament while some are.
However,JESUS did speak out against Homosexuality and it is in fact condemned in the new testament as well.
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What did Jesus say, sir, on the sermon on the mount? He said until heaven and earth shall pass no letter of the law is to be changed... I assume, sir, that you see that earth is still here..and I assume sir, a sa believer you believe that heaven is still there.. thus the law, is the law.
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Atheos,I'm going to refer you to warhawk2,she enjoys quoting scripture to Homo-nazis and the like.
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Yet I am discussing this with you, sir.. you brought up what a real Christian believe.. so I am asking you do you believe the other things in biblical law that they saw as wrong, that Christ said until heaven and earth shall pass.. are still the law
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I've explained that to you,if you want further clarification speak with her.
GOD is you Libs greatest fear,you spend all of your time destroying the Traditional Morals,Values and Culture he set in place and strive to convince others he doesn't exist.Yet,you know in the end times HE will return to take control and that frightens you.
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So that is a no, that you do not believe such.. which is your choice.
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This thread is now finished.
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Looking at this makes me want to do one dedicated to my own political influences.
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By all means, sir, do it. I left out some that I may update it to.. currently the number is 85.. I may do one and add 15 more and cap it at 100 ...
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Well good luck thinking 15 more. I don't think I can think even 50 influences for me. Let alone a 100.
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haha I know the 15.. in fact if I could I could probably list hundreds of influences that mean a great deal and shape my world view.. but then the image would be far too long.
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Whoo wee. I'm impressed you have that many influences. Even if we were to add my more personal political influences like my grandfather, father, and my history teachers, I still wouldn't have nearly the same amount. Haha
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