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Deviant Guide: Good CommentsSince deviantART was first born on August 7th 2000, comments have always retained an air of mystery. deviantART was one of the first dedicated art communities of its kind, and it inspired a standard that is our duty to uphold today. As a deviant, you can play an important role in helping a fellow artist develop their skills, and helping the community retain a level of quality to be proud of.
And all it takes is a comment.
Why Does It Concern Me?
deviantART has a favorite system that has slowly diminished the importance of good critique throughout the site, and reduced the level of effort required for feedback to an artist. In communities where such a system does not exist, receiving a comment is an honor that members of deviantART will sadly never experience the same way members of these other communities will.
However, deviantART has something no other community has: spirit. Like no other community of its kind, deviantART exhibits passion and interest in art that is shown no where else. As such, the importance of maintaining this spirit is foremost. Improving the quality of our comments is one way we can do this.
A truly outstanding comment is always hard to compose, always hard to receive, and always hard to come by. For an artist however, a comment is of the greatest importance. It provides feedback on a deviation that will continue to remain unmatched by that of a favorite. To an artist, a comment is the difference between progression and refinement of ones skills, and continuity of an undeveloped style.
Where Is Critique Appropriate?
The golden rule of critique is always to ask yourself "is it appropriate to this work?" There are many examples of work here on deviantART where it is not necessary to give a massive comment, or where it is impossible to sit and analyze a piece of work for techniques. Make sure you ask yourself that question before you start to comment and save yourself wasted time.
Also make sure you only give critique where it is desired. deviantART has a wonderful system where deviants can select their desired level of critique, and having respect for an artists wishes can save you from a whole depth of trouble.
Consider yourself pre-warned: not everybody appreciates critique, and not everybody will take warmly to your opinion. Just know it's for the benefit of the recipient.
How To Give A Good Comment
A good comment is almost always composed of three important key topics. These are:
Techniques
Effects
Improvements
A good comment will always touch on one or more elements contained in these three areas, and will be highly beneficial to the receiving artist.
A good way to remember these three keep topics is to remember “TEI”, pronounced “tea”. Whenever you view a deviation, think about how you’re going to give them some “tea”.
Techniques
To most deviants, this is the element of commenting that is hardest to perfect and understand, and is often the reason why both givers and receivers of good critique are often confused.
The key step to this part of a comment is to look before you write. It is always tempting as a deviant to jump in and comment right away, but a good comment requires more than just a quick glance at a deviation.
Look at the deviation and ask yourself the following questions, which all refer to techniques the composer has used deliberately:
What are the colors like?
Do the colors blend together, or do they stick out? Is the piece comprised of a small number of colors, or does it utilize many?
How are the elements of the piece arranged? (This is called composition)
Where does your eye first move to? From what angle does the scene appear to be portrayed from? How light or dark is the picture?
How big or small is the subject of the picture?
Is it very far zoomed in or a great distance zoomed out?
Is the picture warped or realistic?
Are there lots of definite shapes in the piece, or is it very indefinite (often a technique of surreal or abstract art)?
What sort of focus does the piece use?
Does the composer use intricate detail, or is the picture very blurry? Does the shot highlight a small part of the scene, or does it capture a vast area?
Does the deviation contain textures?
If you were to touch the texture, how would it feel? Rough? Soft? Sandy?
These are six questions you should ask yourself every time you look at a deviation. Make sure you take an appropriate amount of time to inspect the piece for these techniques.
Effects
This part of a comment is perhaps the easiest, and surely the most practiced part of commenting around the deviantART community.
Describing the effects of the techniques upon you is as easy as saying how the piece makes you feel as the viewer.
There is nothing hard about listing your emotions. However there are some questions you can use to make sure what you are saying is relevant:
How does the piece make you feel?
Does it make you feel happy or sad? Does it make you want to cry or burst out laughing?
Does the piece remind you of something?
Does anything in the scene remind you of something from your childhood? Do the objects look similar to something you’ve seen somewhere before?
What do you like about the picture?
Is there a color that you like? Do you like how the piece is arranged? (Refer to the techniques you’ve already listed)
Make sure your passionate about what you write in this part. If the piece does not make you happy, try not to come across too nasty or unappreciative.
Improvements
This is where the comment can get personal and often get a deviant off side with you. It is important to remember that a deviant spent their time making this piece. However tempting it is to be nasty, don’t ever just write that you “hate the piece” or “dislike it” without having some evidence to back it up.
The purpose of providing the techniques and effects in parts one and two of the comment is to provide this evidence, and if done correctly, it should accurately reflect you attitude to this part of the comment. If it doesn’t, go back and rethink the questions we asked ourselves earlier on.
Offering improvements to a deviant is often going to end up with a sad receiver. Everybody adapts to their own style after a while, and it often hurts to be told that it’s not that great. On the same token, offering improvements to a deviant can be the greatest gift you can ever give.
Here are two questions to ask yourself while giving improvements:
What would make this piece even better?
Always refer to the techniques you used in part one. This will make your comment sound much more professional, and come across as helpful rather than forceful. Find techniques that you think could have been done better, and if possible, post links to another deviation that examples what you’re referring to. This can be inspiring to the deviant and give them a great example to bounce ideas off.
Why do I think you’re a good artist and why do I like your work?
All this time we’ve been professional and offering tips and examples. This is the part where you get to give some real praise. Leaving a comment ending with just improvements would leave the artist feeling down. A kind word never goes astray, so tell them why you liked their work, and why you think they deserve your help! Don’t shy up, nothing will make a deviant happier to hear how much you appreciate their input to the community!
Favorite?
Of course, it’s well within your rights to offer a favorite, so don’t be afraid to tell them they deserve it if you decide to give one! Make sure you really think it deserves a favorite though. If everybody favorites it, it’s not going to mean much to a deviant after a while.
Whats ddi yuo jst tyep?
Never forget to revise what you've written! The best comments are not only honest and well written, but they actually make sense!
Spelling and grammar may not be your thing, but you can at least do the deviant the favor of making it legible. They'll love you even more.
Length
Many deviants are unsure of how long a comment should be. But it’s really simple: how much do you need to write?
Just because a comment is short, doesn’t mean it’s not a good comment, and vice versa for a long comment. Length means nothing. It’s the content that counts.
Is That It Already?
You better believe it! Making good comments is really that easy! Just follow the steps provided, and you’re on your way to making comments that everybody is going to love you for.
Remember one important thing though: always be yourself. No matter what formula you use, nothing means more to an artist to receive an honest comment from somebody who shows that they care about what a piece means to them.
Happy commenting everybody!
Nathan (~kle0012 ) and Kitty (~kittysyellowjacket )
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Comments: 780
NGoff In reply to ??? [2007-09-13 23:41:06 +0000 UTC]
It all sums up to constructive criticism. Something I follow to the Tei!
A great favourite so I may allow others whom enter my gallery (and favourites) to consider when commenting and to understand where I'm coming from when I do so myself.
Thank you very much for providing this well written critique tutorial!
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bringbackart In reply to NGoff [2008-05-23 19:37:36 +0000 UTC]
You are so welcome! Thank you so much for your support, it's people like you who make this club an awesome place to be! Keep spreading the word, and help us make dA completely awesome for everybody! =]
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NGoff In reply to bringbackart [2008-05-23 20:25:59 +0000 UTC]
That's the latest reply I've ever seen!
But I surely thank you for the response especially after it's been so long.
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bringbackart In reply to NGoff [2008-05-23 20:28:21 +0000 UTC]
Haha! I get the feeling a lot of people are going to say that! We've only just got back on this club after like, 8 months, and seriously, we have like 4,500 messages to still reply to! Yikes! Oh school, why did you make me stop keeping on top of these comments? xD
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NGoff In reply to bringbackart [2008-05-23 20:42:54 +0000 UTC]
Well then, good luck with the replies! May your fingers and eyes survive.
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sahwar In reply to ??? [2007-09-06 16:38:15 +0000 UTC]
It`s very useful and helps a lot for a good communication preoccess.
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bringbackart In reply to sahwar [2008-05-23 19:38:50 +0000 UTC]
Yay! I'm really glad you found it helpful! Spread the love, and tell everybody about this, so we can make dA even better! =]
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AshuriShirosenshi In reply to ??? [2007-09-06 01:43:32 +0000 UTC]
This is very handy, I must try and remember this ^_^
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bringbackart In reply to AshuriShirosenshi [2008-05-23 19:39:10 +0000 UTC]
TEI for all! Thanks for your support! Spread the word, and help us get the message out there! =]
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zodiac1805 In reply to ??? [2007-09-03 03:29:48 +0000 UTC]
I almost think this should go in the FAQ section or something, to refer new deviants too, you know?
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bringbackart In reply to zodiac1805 [2008-05-23 19:44:30 +0000 UTC]
I totally think that's an AWESOME idea! We should all campaign to help get that to happen! Thanks so much for your awesomely kind words!
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zodiac1805 In reply to bringbackart [2008-05-24 17:58:34 +0000 UTC]
Not a problem, I just really hope it actually happens. If you start the campaign, I'll definitely add some support.
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bringbackart In reply to zodiac1805 [2008-05-25 15:04:47 +0000 UTC]
Definitely on the list of things to do! Stay tuned, it'll pop up in the journal very soon. =]
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CommentPlz In reply to ??? [2007-09-02 03:33:21 +0000 UTC]
This deviation has been added to our favourites to promote good commenting.
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bringbackart In reply to CommentPlz [2008-05-23 19:47:53 +0000 UTC]
Sweet! That is positively awesome, thank you so much for your support! I love the logo by the way! I think I'll pop you in the affiliates section! =]
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fashionett In reply to ??? [2007-09-01 03:25:04 +0000 UTC]
i love this website. I GAVE THIS WEBSITE A NICKNAME. I CALL IT DEVI-ART
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bringbackart In reply to fashionett [2008-05-23 19:48:15 +0000 UTC]
Haha! Thanks so much, I'm glad you love deviantART! =]
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fashionett In reply to bringbackart [2008-05-26 00:14:19 +0000 UTC]
i have a little problem. some person who signed up in i think feb 8 or 23 has been critisizing peoples art and his critisizm iz very harsh.
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bringbackart In reply to fashionett [2008-05-30 15:30:53 +0000 UTC]
Hey there! We're really sorry to hear about your problem. Is there any chance that you could give us a few examples of what the person wrote, so we can help you out a bit more? =]
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fashionett In reply to bringbackart [2008-05-31 03:17:16 +0000 UTC]
well he said things like,
your work was crap.
(i had just built up the confidence to start drawing manga and he was the first to comment on my "kat gurl" drawing my first good one.) he called it a troll. he said that my mom must have been on meth when she had me.
(my cousin looked at it and typed something bad back to him and he reported, so thats not really my fault, you cant stop her she's a hot head). i didd't make anime for a couple dayz.
HE MADE FUN OF OTHER PEOPLE TOO, ON HIS PAGE THEY WELCOMED HIM TO DEVI-ART THEN TOLD HIM HOW MUCH OF A JERK HE AS. HE SAID THAT THIS WEBSITE IS CRAP (with is totally untrue) he only has one picture on his page the last time i checked. i think he joined here about february 2 or 23rd of 08. i dunno. but thats all the info that i remember. i kind of don't remember becouse i tryied to forget him, but yah. i might not have spelled it right but his name is GraphiteGrain and his art picture is called Sketchbook. i'll try lokking him up again, if necessary
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Himene-Chan In reply to ??? [2007-08-30 16:06:45 +0000 UTC]
Wow...Thank you so much for making this!! It's really helpful and easy to remember. We should give out more 'tea' and help save dA!!
I side note : I faved
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bringbackart In reply to Himene-Chan [2008-05-23 19:49:07 +0000 UTC]
Absolutely! TEI for all! The more TEI we hand out, the better a place dA will become, so spread the word! Thanks so much for yur support, I'm really glad you liked this! =]
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kmil60 In reply to ??? [2007-08-30 14:53:40 +0000 UTC]
great idea.
the good comment tutorial is something people should read. I have read many comments given to talented people that, if they were directed to me, i would get hurt. Im looking forward to making use of this soon.
someone should think of making a Having Touch When It Comes To Criticizing Tutorial too. haha.
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bringbackart In reply to kmil60 [2008-05-23 19:50:14 +0000 UTC]
Haha! I think I'll make that and put it up for April fools day next year. xD Thanks so much for your support, glad you liked this! Spread the word, and help us make this place even better!
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apathiogram In reply to ??? [2007-08-29 18:14:15 +0000 UTC]
"deviantART has a favorite system that has slowly diminished the importance of good critique throughout the site, and reduced the level of effort required for feedback to an artist. In communities where such a system does not exist, receiving a comment is an honor that members of deviantART will sadly never experience the same way members of these other communities will."
as a member of DA and a former member of a site that had no +fav system... i must totaly agree with you. and i also think that deviantart has completely lost it's sense of community and creativity due to art fads and the favorite system... as long as artists conform (the opposite of deviate) to certain art styles and subject material, they will get comments saying "cool" and "beutiful" or something similar... but no one cares to seriously critique another artist who doesnt fall into what they would add as a favorite. they just goe by the wayside.
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bringbackart In reply to apathiogram [2008-05-23 19:52:31 +0000 UTC]
Unfortunately, this website is all about generating traffic, and hence money, and things will never change here. The deviantART team will never really support us trying to slow things down and make things better for the good of the art, because this is their way of making revenue.
It's our job to do what they won't, and hence, we'll, as a club and individuals, spread the word about how we can make this place better, and get out their and critique the place up! =]
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apathiogram In reply to bringbackart [2011-12-15 01:20:40 +0000 UTC]
Yes, I agree with you still that it is important to "spread the word" but as you so cynically put 'things will never change here'. What do people do when the community ignores their needs? They form a new community that supports those needs. All we can do is what we can do on an individual basis. Such actions as commenting INSTEAD of +fav and having rigorous standards for ourselves in our art.
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Emeranie In reply to ??? [2007-08-16 06:50:30 +0000 UTC]
You explained everyhting clearly and well. I like the formulation.
I guess I will follow these directions and become a better commentator, so thank you. Good work!
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Emeranie In reply to ??? [2007-08-16 06:50:14 +0000 UTC]
You explained everyhting clearly and well. I like the formulation.
I guess I will follow these directions and become a better commentator, so thank you. Good work!
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BoffinBrain In reply to ??? [2007-08-09 21:40:38 +0000 UTC]
I think you deserve some tea.
Nice article. I'll be linking to it.
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Hammyball In reply to ??? [2007-08-06 15:18:34 +0000 UTC]
Beautifully constructed.
One thing you've missed out is how to tackle literature but I guess that's explanatory if you follow and understand the technique and effect guidelines and just adapt. Either way it's all good.
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FrenetikFred In reply to ??? [2007-08-03 08:52:05 +0000 UTC]
Kudos to the creators of this tut' ! I never took the time to read it fully before, but now I'm sure how to do good comments even if I follow what you say here for a few months.
Maybe I'll translate it into French (if you allow me too) somedays because I find it very helpful
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FunkyLilith In reply to ??? [2007-07-17 17:59:31 +0000 UTC]
So useful I added it to my shoutboard with the Deviant Guide to Good Responses !
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bringbackart In reply to FunkyLilith [2007-07-20 08:53:48 +0000 UTC]
You are beyond amazing! Thank you for your fantastic support, seriously! =]]
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FunkyLilith In reply to bringbackart [2007-07-27 01:22:43 +0000 UTC]
Keep up the good work!
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bass0w0 In reply to ??? [2007-07-08 20:05:03 +0000 UTC]
hay versiones en español de esto?... ...
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bringbackart In reply to bass0w0 [2007-07-11 19:03:38 +0000 UTC]
desafortunadamente, no! apesadumbrado!
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bass0w0 In reply to bringbackart [2007-07-11 20:42:50 +0000 UTC]
sólo quería entenderlo... ...
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SaikoHono In reply to ??? [2007-07-07 18:00:04 +0000 UTC]
This is very helpful, as I was knew what I liked about a piece, but not how to describe it. Now I do. Thank you.
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jamesilluminare In reply to ??? [2007-07-06 13:27:37 +0000 UTC]
Excellent article! I have the tips pinned up on my little desk, here.
My only wish, is that more people would follow these suggestions.
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Pikachu54 In reply to ??? [2007-07-01 06:21:19 +0000 UTC]
Yay! you made deviantation into a guide. Never knew someone would even try that.Great Job!
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lostreality91 In reply to ??? [2007-06-29 20:49:30 +0000 UTC]
I found this to be very helpful! Thank you, amazing work!
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Shed-senpai In reply to ??? [2007-06-24 08:15:00 +0000 UTC]
I'm not faving this (and "Good Responses") for the mere fact that I like it. They are brilliant deviations, and should be held as must-reads all around the community! For an artists who hasn't yet found a nice working style (like myself : < ) constructive crit is definately very welcome, and I bet it also is for artists with a more solid style (who isn't seeking improvement, anyways?). Simple comments like "nice" or "awesome" or "" never do anything.
It's also nice to know that most of my comments follow those basics, nowadays xD
Constructive crit for the win!
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LadyLyla In reply to ??? [2007-06-22 16:08:08 +0000 UTC]
Wow! nice
I have always trouble writing good comments, probably because my english is quite bad this is going to be very helpful, thank you!
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X-Chick In reply to ??? [2007-06-22 14:56:03 +0000 UTC]
Finaly a good guide line to a good constructive commenting. Unfortunately some people can't take any constitutive comments. i love to get constructive comments how else am i to improve if ever one tells me they love it or hate it?
I'll also take a look at your other post "Good Responses"
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kkart In reply to ??? [2007-06-22 13:30:55 +0000 UTC]
This is good, in fact it is damn good, to see something like being done. DA has kinda fallen into the lapse where virtually everyone simply says "good job!" Or "Nice image"...I honestly hope this will make people do a double take and honestly think about what they say and write.
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Chibi-Yuka In reply to ??? [2007-06-22 12:42:39 +0000 UTC]
Very nice guide, it was thoughtful and well written. I'm hoping more deviants will read this and follow your advice. ^_^
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MultiCultureFruit In reply to ??? [2007-06-17 07:21:03 +0000 UTC]
as good as the other one and as useful thank you fr sharing
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gimpnub In reply to ??? [2007-05-31 22:31:40 +0000 UTC]
This really wants to make just browse around and give great comments on deviations that really appeal to me.
This gets a because i love it and so i can find more easily
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