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Description Deviant Guide: Good Comments

Since deviantART was first born on August 7th 2000, comments have always retained an air of mystery. deviantART was one of the first dedicated art communities of its kind, and it inspired a standard that is our duty to uphold today. As a deviant, you can play an important role in helping a fellow artist develop their skills, and helping the community retain a level of quality to be proud of.

And all it takes is a comment.

Why Does It Concern Me?

deviantART has a favorite system that has slowly diminished the importance of good critique throughout the site, and reduced the level of effort required for feedback to an artist. In communities where such a system does not exist, receiving a comment is an honor that members of deviantART will sadly never experience the same way members of these other communities will.

However, deviantART has something no other community has: spirit. Like no other community of its kind, deviantART exhibits passion and interest in art that is shown no where else. As such, the importance of maintaining this spirit is foremost. Improving the quality of our comments is one way we can do this.

A truly outstanding comment is always hard to compose, always hard to receive, and always hard to come by. For an artist however, a comment is of the greatest importance. It provides feedback on a deviation that will continue to remain unmatched by that of a favorite. To an artist, a comment is the difference between progression and refinement of ones skills, and continuity of an undeveloped style.

Where Is Critique Appropriate?

The golden rule of critique is always to ask yourself "is it appropriate to this work?" There are many examples of work here on deviantART where it is not necessary to give a massive comment, or where it is impossible to sit and analyze a piece of work for techniques. Make sure you ask yourself that question before you start to comment and save yourself wasted time.

Also make sure you only give critique where it is desired. deviantART has a wonderful system where deviants can select their desired level of critique, and having respect for an artists wishes can save you from a whole depth of trouble.

Consider yourself pre-warned: not everybody appreciates critique, and not everybody will take warmly to your opinion. Just know it's for the benefit of the recipient.

How To Give A Good Comment

A good comment is almost always composed of three important key topics. These are:

Techniques
Effects
Improvements

A good comment will always touch on one or more elements contained in these three areas, and will be highly beneficial to the receiving artist.

A good way to remember these three keep topics is to remember “TEI”, pronounced “tea”. Whenever you view a deviation, think about how you’re going to give them some “tea”.

Techniques

To most deviants, this is the element of commenting that is hardest to perfect and understand, and is often the reason why both givers and receivers of good critique are often confused.

The key step to this part of a comment is to look before you write. It is always tempting as a deviant to jump in and comment right away, but a good comment requires more than just a quick glance at a deviation.

Look at the deviation and ask yourself the following questions, which all refer to techniques the composer has used deliberately:

What are the colors like?
Do the colors blend together, or do they stick out? Is the piece comprised of a small number of colors, or does it utilize many?

How are the elements of the piece arranged? (This is called composition)
Where does your eye first move to? From what angle does the scene appear to be portrayed from? How light or dark is the picture?

How big or small is the subject of the picture?
Is it very far zoomed in or a great distance zoomed out?

Is the picture warped or realistic?
Are there lots of definite shapes in the piece, or is it very indefinite (often a technique of surreal or abstract art)?

What sort of focus does the piece use?
Does the composer use intricate detail, or is the picture very blurry? Does the shot highlight a small part of the scene, or does it capture a vast area?

Does the deviation contain textures?
If you were to touch the texture, how would it feel? Rough? Soft? Sandy?

These are six questions you should ask yourself every time you look at a deviation. Make sure you take an appropriate amount of time to inspect the piece for these techniques.

Effects

This part of a comment is perhaps the easiest, and surely the most practiced part of commenting around the deviantART community.

Describing the effects of the techniques upon you is as easy as saying how the piece makes you feel as the viewer.

There is nothing hard about listing your emotions. However there are some questions you can use to make sure what you are saying is relevant:

How does the piece make you feel?
Does it make you feel happy or sad? Does it make you want to cry or burst out laughing?

Does the piece remind you of something?
Does anything in the scene remind you of something from your childhood? Do the objects look similar to something you’ve seen somewhere before?

What do you like about the picture?
Is there a color that you like? Do you like how the piece is arranged? (Refer to the techniques you’ve already listed)

Make sure your passionate about what you write in this part. If the piece does not make you happy, try not to come across too nasty or unappreciative.

Improvements

This is where the comment can get personal and often get a deviant off side with you. It is important to remember that a deviant spent their time making this piece. However tempting it is to be nasty, don’t ever just write that you “hate the piece” or “dislike it” without having some evidence to back it up.

The purpose of providing the techniques and effects in parts one and two of the comment is to provide this evidence, and if done correctly, it should accurately reflect you attitude to this part of the comment. If it doesn’t, go back and rethink the questions we asked ourselves earlier on.

Offering improvements to a deviant is often going to end up with a sad receiver. Everybody adapts to their own style after a while, and it often hurts to be told that it’s not that great. On the same token, offering improvements to a deviant can be the greatest gift you can ever give.

Here are two questions to ask yourself while giving improvements:

What would make this piece even better?
Always refer to the techniques you used in part one. This will make your comment sound much more professional, and come across as helpful rather than forceful. Find techniques that you think could have been done better, and if possible, post links to another deviation that examples what you’re referring to. This can be inspiring to the deviant and give them a great example to bounce ideas off.

Why do I think you’re a good artist and why do I like your work?
All this time we’ve been professional and offering tips and examples. This is the part where you get to give some real praise. Leaving a comment ending with just improvements would leave the artist feeling down. A kind word never goes astray, so tell them why you liked their work, and why you think they deserve your help! Don’t shy up, nothing will make a deviant happier to hear how much you appreciate their input to the community!

Favorite?
Of course, it’s well within your rights to offer a favorite, so don’t be afraid to tell them they deserve it if you decide to give one! Make sure you really think it deserves a favorite though. If everybody favorites it, it’s not going to mean much to a deviant after a while.

Whats ddi yuo jst tyep?
Never forget to revise what you've written! The best comments are not only honest and well written, but they actually make sense!

Spelling and grammar may not be your thing, but you can at least do the deviant the favor of making it legible. They'll love you even more.

Length

Many deviants are unsure of how long a comment should be. But it’s really simple: how much do you need to write?

Just because a comment is short, doesn’t mean it’s not a good comment, and vice versa for a long comment. Length means nothing. It’s the content that counts.

Is That It Already?

You better believe it! Making good comments is really that easy! Just follow the steps provided, and you’re on your way to making comments that everybody is going to love you for.

Remember one important thing though: always be yourself. No matter what formula you use, nothing means more to an artist to receive an honest comment from somebody who shows that they care about what a piece means to them.

Happy commenting everybody!

Nathan (~kle0012 ) and Kitty (~kittysyellowjacket )
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bringbackart In reply to ??? [2008-05-23 19:00:39 +0000 UTC]

No problems! I've posted an example on one of your pieces, and I've pasted the link below for reference. Thank you so much for reading this guide, and I'm so glad it helped! Don't forget to spread the word, and make dA a better place! =]

https://comments.deviantart.com/1/73480947/734420056

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losertastic-toaster In reply to bringbackart [2008-05-24 02:13:25 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for that!

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ArtemisBlue In reply to ??? [2008-01-02 22:51:34 +0000 UTC]

This is extremely helpful! Also, it'll bring down incidents of people being blocked because of saying the wrong thing. It happened to me once, and no matter how many times I tried to apologize for it, it's happened to me either way.

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bringbackart In reply to ArtemisBlue [2008-05-23 19:07:11 +0000 UTC]

Absolutely! No fret about being blocked, everybody makes mistakes! Just make sure you learn the reasons why you were banned, and make sure you learn from those mistakes. After all, that's why dA staff issue bans, in the hope that giving people a second chance will offer a chance to learn from their mistakes.

Thanks so much for reading this, hope it really helped you!

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ArtemisBlue In reply to bringbackart [2008-05-23 19:26:27 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! Later on, I learned I was being rude to the user and vowed to always be careful about what's said. Once again, you're very welcome. It helped a lot.

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bringbackart In reply to ArtemisBlue [2008-05-23 19:29:16 +0000 UTC]

You're so welcome! Please, never hesitate to ask for any advice or help with your comments! Just drop us a note, and we'll help as we can. =]

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ArtemisBlue In reply to bringbackart [2008-05-23 20:00:16 +0000 UTC]

Speaking of which, there is. You see, I've got this Deviantfriend, and although she's a nice girl, not all of her pictures are up to par. In fact, she only uses ms paint. Even when I told her to try using traditional medium, like a pencil and paper, she says she doesn't use it because she doesn't have a scanner. Sometimes, she's great with taking criticism, other times, well, let's just say she and an attacker with too harsh criticism both blocked each other in the end.

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bringbackart In reply to ArtemisBlue [2008-05-23 20:16:46 +0000 UTC]

To be honest, I guess you either have to tell her. Try offering her tips on how she can make her paint work better, until she herself gets bored of it, and get's the itch to move onto something bigger and better. Instead of telling her to do it, make it seem like it's her idea. Show her some pictures of some awesome drawings, or some digital art done in Photoshop, and she'll, chances are, get inspired to do it herself. Just give her a helpful nudge in the right direction. =]

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ArtemisBlue In reply to bringbackart [2008-05-24 10:55:00 +0000 UTC]

I give her tips, but you're right. I better try showing some great digital work too. Would you believe I used to be against the use of digital programs in art?

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Jellybean-Bby In reply to ArtemisBlue [2008-01-07 20:54:03 +0000 UTC]

HI!

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ArtemisBlue In reply to Jellybean-Bby [2008-01-07 20:58:34 +0000 UTC]

Nice to meet you! How are you?

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Jellybean-Bby In reply to ArtemisBlue [2008-01-07 20:59:43 +0000 UTC]

lol'ing =3

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Jellybean-Bby In reply to Jellybean-Bby [2008-01-07 21:08:48 +0000 UTC]

America & Tim Butron movies. =3

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ArtemisBlue In reply to Jellybean-Bby [2008-01-07 21:01:22 +0000 UTC]

Going through your gallery, I see you've got a lot of work from Tim Burton. Where are you from, and what are your favorite movies?

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green-fram-day In reply to ??? [2007-12-28 08:39:38 +0000 UTC]

It's great!!! Really helpful!
Thank you for posting this...
Many times I wanted to comment a deviation but I didn't know what exactly to say... Now I will

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bringbackart In reply to green-fram-day [2008-05-23 19:08:23 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for reading this! We're really glad it helped! Please spread the word! The more people that know, the better dA will become!

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Akimaru-Zaithara In reply to ??? [2007-12-19 00:48:39 +0000 UTC]

I couldn't just fav. this one and not leave a comment now could I?

I wish more people would read this and actually critique work in a sensible and polite manner.

This guide will help me greatly as well. I've never been good at giving critique.

Awesome work!

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bringbackart In reply to Akimaru-Zaithara [2008-05-23 19:09:11 +0000 UTC]

Haha! Thanks so much for your great comment! We appreciate your feedback, and are honored that you found it helpful! Please spread the word, and make dA a better place! =]

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Rinoa11 In reply to ??? [2007-12-08 00:20:48 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much for posting this wonderful guide. It is very informative but simple and to the point. Thank you for bringing back common courtesy and the power of the good comment!

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bringbackart In reply to Rinoa11 [2008-05-23 19:12:05 +0000 UTC]

You're more than welcome! I'm so glad it helped you, and I hope it continues to be a guide you can rely on well into the future! Don't forget to spread the word about this, and make dA a better place!

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bokuSatchi In reply to ??? [2007-11-24 14:20:51 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for writing this. I often don't know what to write in comments, that will make then artists happy, but help them as well. I'm ing this, so I don't forget it ^ ^

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bringbackart In reply to bokuSatchi [2008-05-23 19:15:06 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for your awesome support! You make this hard word completely worth every second, and I'm so glad it helped you out! Please keep spreading the word so we can make dA a better place! =]

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rowenabrennavart In reply to ??? [2007-11-16 23:30:25 +0000 UTC]

You've been featured here [link]

Tell me if that's ok with you, if not I'll remove it right away ^-^ Thank you for doing this deviation!

Help to spread the word if you can! n_n Love,

Cris

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BleedingPuppet In reply to ??? [2007-11-14 15:26:27 +0000 UTC]

Very useful, insightful and informative.

Really do wish people would take a moment to not only read this, but put it to good use.

Gonna spread the word, hence the fav

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bringbackart In reply to BleedingPuppet [2008-05-23 19:20:16 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for spreading the word, and I'm so glad you found it useful! dA would be such an awesome place if people took a minute longer out of their days to find out how much an artist really benefits from a good comment. =]

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Europallu In reply to ??? [2007-11-05 19:25:03 +0000 UTC]

I found this tremendously helpful, seeing as I never know what to say in comments other than 'good job' or something like that. Faved for future use. <3

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bringbackart In reply to Europallu [2008-05-23 19:20:59 +0000 UTC]

You rock my socks! Thank you so much for your support, and I'm so glad you found this useful! Spread the word, and help us make dA a better place!

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KWilliamsPhoto In reply to ??? [2007-11-02 20:22:06 +0000 UTC]

Very good idea!
I just wrote a how to handle misuse of resources in my journal.

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bringbackart In reply to KWilliamsPhoto [2008-05-23 19:22:17 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for awesome support! Why don't you submit your tutorial as a deviation, and enter it into our competition? Check out the journal for more information. =]

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Shade-Butterfly In reply to ??? [2007-10-29 23:39:44 +0000 UTC]


It's funny, but I knew a lot of that already; I just never applied it.
The peice was marvelous, though it baffles me as to why you didn't submit it as prose. Then again, I do suppose it is some sort of a tutorial.

And there I go blathering.
Regardless, I appriciate the effort you put into it; well constructed.

A+ to you.

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bringbackart In reply to Shade-Butterfly [2008-05-23 19:23:52 +0000 UTC]

You are so right! I kept trying to decide whether it should be in the prose gallery, but I asked the prose GD, and he said the tutorial gallery, unless I want to risk having it moved or removed. So to be safe, it found its new home. =]

Thank you SO much for your kind words and your support! That means so much to us to hear! Please spread the word, and help make dA a better place!

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tenaciousart In reply to ??? [2007-10-28 23:09:10 +0000 UTC]

It was really helpful especially for me. If at least half people that usually visits deviantART started to think 'bout what they are going to say before they do it, I really believe that more people would join deviantART and more deviations would be submited.
This is also very important to have a good communication not just here on deviantART but on every single message that you want to give.

Thank you very much for making this wonderful job.
I hope people look it and start thinking more 'bout others not just to themselves.

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bringbackart In reply to tenaciousart [2008-05-23 19:27:22 +0000 UTC]

You are absolutely right. And sadly, most of the bad comments come down to pure laziness, or inappropriate jokes. dA is becoming a dumping ground for the most absurd comments, and it's time we did something about it as a community who cares about art, not crap.

Thank you so much for reading this, I'm so glad you found it helpful! Let us know how this helps in the future, and if we should add or revise anything!

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tenaciousart In reply to bringbackart [2008-05-24 17:00:40 +0000 UTC]

Hello bringbackart,
I always feel very happy when someone anwser my comments, thank you for making me happy once more.

Well, I was reading it once more and for the second time I had the same impression, you guide is just amazing, really breathtaking. Anyway, I think would be interesting to add examples of good critiques.
Maybe something like this:

Good Comment:
"What a nice pic howard, I really enjoyed the depth of view on this picture, this lake give me so many feelings, I feel freedom and at the same time I feel so creepy staring at it. Would be nice if you changed the source of light, I think it would look alot better.

See you Howard, congrats for your piece."

Bad Comment:

"Cool, Howard Very nice "

I think it would help people to make good comments.

I hope you like it and put it in good use, By the way sorry if I made it too long.

See you.

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bringbackart In reply to tenaciousart [2008-05-25 15:10:34 +0000 UTC]

That's a really great idea! I think the reason we never added any examples was, in short, because we didn't want people constraining themselves to the same prefabricated templates. TEI is simple, and it works, and at the same time, although it doesn't specify exactly what you should write, it gives you enough to have a good base to work from.

I think people are too easily influenced by examples, when the whole point of leaving comments is to express individuality, and opinion. If we make examples, we make people think that by following a preset, they're doing the right thing. Although his may fix things as they are now, in a few years, everybody will be writing exactly the same thing. We need to encourage individuality, and uniquity, and by including no examples, we feel we have done so in an indirect way.

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tenaciousart In reply to bringbackart [2008-05-25 20:51:15 +0000 UTC]

Again, you're totally right, and somehow I knew you were going to say this, TEI was a wonderful idea, before it I confess I wasn't much concerned about how positivy can my comment be or how the artists would feel about my comment, all we have to do is thank you again for these example of compassion with dA.

Long live =brinbackart.

See you mate.

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tenaciousart In reply to tenaciousart [2008-05-25 20:54:41 +0000 UTC]

Just completing...
Thinking 'bout how people react to these kind of things, I really think they'd follow it exactly the way you example the TEI, you though right when you did it. Probably this guide is perfect I can't find even a single mistake, congratulations again.

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Odeena In reply to ??? [2007-10-25 05:33:31 +0000 UTC]

Although art isn't really my thing, I've always tried to do my best when leaving feedback. Of course, sometimes the only thing I can think of goes somewhere along the lines of, 'ROFL, well done! That really made my day!', but usually I try to come up with more than that.

Thanks for taking the time to write this guide though. Here's hoping that people will read, appreciate and follow it as they should

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bringbackart In reply to Odeena [2008-05-23 19:31:35 +0000 UTC]

Hey, you're making an effort, and that's what this is all about! If everybody made an effort like you did, dA would be an amazing place!

Thanks so much for the kind words, hope this helped you a lot! Spread the word about this, and help us make dA a better place!

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new-found In reply to ??? [2007-10-19 20:38:28 +0000 UTC]

I found this tremendously helpful. I usually don't comment on art, because I never know exactly what to say other than 'nice job' or some other variation of that (and that gets boring and annoying after a while). Hopefully, I'll put this to use when I comment from now on. Thanks!

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bringbackart In reply to new-found [2008-05-23 19:32:24 +0000 UTC]

You're so welcome, I'm glad this helped you! If you ever need help with this guide, drop us a note, and I'll be sure to reply as soon as I can!

Thanks for your support! Spread the word to help us make dA a better place!

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mischiefinmink In reply to ??? [2007-10-13 00:33:42 +0000 UTC]

Awesome I should start practising now~

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bringbackart In reply to mischiefinmink [2008-05-23 19:32:54 +0000 UTC]

Absolutely! Your awesome comments will make dA better place! Cheers for reading!

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monsterlienchen In reply to ??? [2007-09-23 12:12:21 +0000 UTC]

I am very glad people think the same way. I guess everybodyhere in deviantart should read this! I sometimes feel so irritated seeing all the favs because they dont really mean anything.. words are so much more personal.. it shows someone takes time to look at it.
And this guide is wonderfulll very simple written so everyobody can understand and its concrete so it stimulates

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bringbackart In reply to monsterlienchen [2008-05-23 19:34:15 +0000 UTC]

I exactly what you mean. It frustrates me when I see pieces getting faved, when I have no idea what made those pieces good. It helps me as an artist, and it benefits the viewers in the end, if a simple comment is left. =]

Thanks so much for your support! I'm so glad it helped, and I hope you can spread the word, and help us make dA a better place for all!

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Zexnon In reply to ??? [2007-09-20 00:33:26 +0000 UTC]

I leave comments when I feel it is necessary. But honestly I am not an advanced artist thus I couldn't crit worth a damn XD So I am stuck with 'I love this!'

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bringbackart In reply to Zexnon [2008-05-23 19:35:30 +0000 UTC]

Hey no problems! If you love a piece, just tell them what you love about it, and you're job is done! An artist can work better if he or she knows their strengths!

Thanks for your support, keep spreading the word to help us make this place even better!

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Silver-Amphiptere In reply to Zexnon [2008-01-09 00:24:26 +0000 UTC]

You don't have to be an advanced artist to critique
Al you have to do is say if something doesn't look right/ could look better and if you can, suggest how you think they might make it better.

The trick is to be careful with your phrasing - don't make it sound like they screwed up, and don't use the term fix it. Its better to make it sound like the piece is fine, but could be better.

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Secret-Night In reply to ??? [2007-09-17 03:56:12 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much. I know leaving comments beyond "I love this piece! Cute!" etc. is something I struggle with. Usually it ends with me not commenting at all, because.... They've already heard from 200 other people how cute it is. They don't need me to drop into the ocean.

From now on, this is my handbook! *memorizes TEI... tea*

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bringbackart In reply to Secret-Night [2008-05-23 19:36:39 +0000 UTC]

TEI it is! Soon, with your support, we'll all have TEI together. =]
Cheers for the comment! Spread the word, and help us make this place even better!

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