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Description Deviant Guide: Good Comments

Since deviantART was first born on August 7th 2000, comments have always retained an air of mystery. deviantART was one of the first dedicated art communities of its kind, and it inspired a standard that is our duty to uphold today. As a deviant, you can play an important role in helping a fellow artist develop their skills, and helping the community retain a level of quality to be proud of.

And all it takes is a comment.

Why Does It Concern Me?

deviantART has a favorite system that has slowly diminished the importance of good critique throughout the site, and reduced the level of effort required for feedback to an artist. In communities where such a system does not exist, receiving a comment is an honor that members of deviantART will sadly never experience the same way members of these other communities will.

However, deviantART has something no other community has: spirit. Like no other community of its kind, deviantART exhibits passion and interest in art that is shown no where else. As such, the importance of maintaining this spirit is foremost. Improving the quality of our comments is one way we can do this.

A truly outstanding comment is always hard to compose, always hard to receive, and always hard to come by. For an artist however, a comment is of the greatest importance. It provides feedback on a deviation that will continue to remain unmatched by that of a favorite. To an artist, a comment is the difference between progression and refinement of ones skills, and continuity of an undeveloped style.

Where Is Critique Appropriate?

The golden rule of critique is always to ask yourself "is it appropriate to this work?" There are many examples of work here on deviantART where it is not necessary to give a massive comment, or where it is impossible to sit and analyze a piece of work for techniques. Make sure you ask yourself that question before you start to comment and save yourself wasted time.

Also make sure you only give critique where it is desired. deviantART has a wonderful system where deviants can select their desired level of critique, and having respect for an artists wishes can save you from a whole depth of trouble.

Consider yourself pre-warned: not everybody appreciates critique, and not everybody will take warmly to your opinion. Just know it's for the benefit of the recipient.

How To Give A Good Comment

A good comment is almost always composed of three important key topics. These are:

Techniques
Effects
Improvements

A good comment will always touch on one or more elements contained in these three areas, and will be highly beneficial to the receiving artist.

A good way to remember these three keep topics is to remember “TEI”, pronounced “tea”. Whenever you view a deviation, think about how you’re going to give them some “tea”.

Techniques

To most deviants, this is the element of commenting that is hardest to perfect and understand, and is often the reason why both givers and receivers of good critique are often confused.

The key step to this part of a comment is to look before you write. It is always tempting as a deviant to jump in and comment right away, but a good comment requires more than just a quick glance at a deviation.

Look at the deviation and ask yourself the following questions, which all refer to techniques the composer has used deliberately:

What are the colors like?
Do the colors blend together, or do they stick out? Is the piece comprised of a small number of colors, or does it utilize many?

How are the elements of the piece arranged? (This is called composition)
Where does your eye first move to? From what angle does the scene appear to be portrayed from? How light or dark is the picture?

How big or small is the subject of the picture?
Is it very far zoomed in or a great distance zoomed out?

Is the picture warped or realistic?
Are there lots of definite shapes in the piece, or is it very indefinite (often a technique of surreal or abstract art)?

What sort of focus does the piece use?
Does the composer use intricate detail, or is the picture very blurry? Does the shot highlight a small part of the scene, or does it capture a vast area?

Does the deviation contain textures?
If you were to touch the texture, how would it feel? Rough? Soft? Sandy?

These are six questions you should ask yourself every time you look at a deviation. Make sure you take an appropriate amount of time to inspect the piece for these techniques.

Effects

This part of a comment is perhaps the easiest, and surely the most practiced part of commenting around the deviantART community.

Describing the effects of the techniques upon you is as easy as saying how the piece makes you feel as the viewer.

There is nothing hard about listing your emotions. However there are some questions you can use to make sure what you are saying is relevant:

How does the piece make you feel?
Does it make you feel happy or sad? Does it make you want to cry or burst out laughing?

Does the piece remind you of something?
Does anything in the scene remind you of something from your childhood? Do the objects look similar to something you’ve seen somewhere before?

What do you like about the picture?
Is there a color that you like? Do you like how the piece is arranged? (Refer to the techniques you’ve already listed)

Make sure your passionate about what you write in this part. If the piece does not make you happy, try not to come across too nasty or unappreciative.

Improvements

This is where the comment can get personal and often get a deviant off side with you. It is important to remember that a deviant spent their time making this piece. However tempting it is to be nasty, don’t ever just write that you “hate the piece” or “dislike it” without having some evidence to back it up.

The purpose of providing the techniques and effects in parts one and two of the comment is to provide this evidence, and if done correctly, it should accurately reflect you attitude to this part of the comment. If it doesn’t, go back and rethink the questions we asked ourselves earlier on.

Offering improvements to a deviant is often going to end up with a sad receiver. Everybody adapts to their own style after a while, and it often hurts to be told that it’s not that great. On the same token, offering improvements to a deviant can be the greatest gift you can ever give.

Here are two questions to ask yourself while giving improvements:

What would make this piece even better?
Always refer to the techniques you used in part one. This will make your comment sound much more professional, and come across as helpful rather than forceful. Find techniques that you think could have been done better, and if possible, post links to another deviation that examples what you’re referring to. This can be inspiring to the deviant and give them a great example to bounce ideas off.

Why do I think you’re a good artist and why do I like your work?
All this time we’ve been professional and offering tips and examples. This is the part where you get to give some real praise. Leaving a comment ending with just improvements would leave the artist feeling down. A kind word never goes astray, so tell them why you liked their work, and why you think they deserve your help! Don’t shy up, nothing will make a deviant happier to hear how much you appreciate their input to the community!

Favorite?
Of course, it’s well within your rights to offer a favorite, so don’t be afraid to tell them they deserve it if you decide to give one! Make sure you really think it deserves a favorite though. If everybody favorites it, it’s not going to mean much to a deviant after a while.

Whats ddi yuo jst tyep?
Never forget to revise what you've written! The best comments are not only honest and well written, but they actually make sense!

Spelling and grammar may not be your thing, but you can at least do the deviant the favor of making it legible. They'll love you even more.

Length

Many deviants are unsure of how long a comment should be. But it’s really simple: how much do you need to write?

Just because a comment is short, doesn’t mean it’s not a good comment, and vice versa for a long comment. Length means nothing. It’s the content that counts.

Is That It Already?

You better believe it! Making good comments is really that easy! Just follow the steps provided, and you’re on your way to making comments that everybody is going to love you for.

Remember one important thing though: always be yourself. No matter what formula you use, nothing means more to an artist to receive an honest comment from somebody who shows that they care about what a piece means to them.

Happy commenting everybody!

Nathan (~kle0012 ) and Kitty (~kittysyellowjacket )
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Comments: 780

ChupaQueso In reply to ??? [2008-06-11 07:40:31 +0000 UTC]

Nicely written and well layed out. I will keep this on consideration when I comment. ^^

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bringbackart In reply to ChupaQueso [2008-08-29 15:26:14 +0000 UTC]


Thank you! Glad it impacted you and thank you for your support.

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ChupaQueso In reply to bringbackart [2008-08-30 02:11:12 +0000 UTC]

Your very welcome.

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KaitlinTheGreat In reply to ??? [2008-06-08 17:35:04 +0000 UTC]

All right!
Let's bring back art!

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bringbackart In reply to KaitlinTheGreat [2008-08-27 13:48:42 +0000 UTC]



Atsa spirit!

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manic-otaku In reply to ??? [2008-06-08 15:17:11 +0000 UTC]

Thankyou thankyou thankyou. This needed to be done

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bringbackart In reply to manic-otaku [2008-08-29 15:25:37 +0000 UTC]


Why, you're so very welcome!
Thank you for your support to our cause!

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manic-otaku In reply to bringbackart [2008-09-04 13:16:17 +0000 UTC]

My pleasure!!

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Phillus In reply to ??? [2008-06-08 01:21:55 +0000 UTC]

I like this guide a lot since it's very detailed for almost anyone who read it, as well as applied to all kinds of artwork. But if there is an example, it could almost be perfect because people can refer to it.

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bringbackart In reply to Phillus [2008-08-29 15:40:32 +0000 UTC]


We could sure work on an example. Thanks for the suggestion, we'll see what we can do with it. [:
Thank you for your support and we're glad you enjoyed the guide.

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Phillus In reply to bringbackart [2008-08-29 17:50:15 +0000 UTC]

There should be a lot; since there are people who give good comments.
You are most welcomed.

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Mtn-Man In reply to ??? [2008-05-21 06:23:28 +0000 UTC]

Excellently put. As a person striving to become a high school art teacher I know what a monumental help it can be to receive good constructive criticism. Sadly though this has been a fleeting thing that I've noticed on here. I alway try and help others though giving a good solid critique, its what I want to do in life. Help others create beautiful art. So I find it simply wonderful that there are other out there sharing in my same view to help their fellow artists and not just a "sweet pic man" approach to art. I shall continue giving out the best comment/critiques I can, and I hope everyone shall start doing the same.

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bringbackart In reply to Mtn-Man [2008-05-23 18:25:38 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for your kind words!

You're so right when you say that it's becoming a fleeting thing here. People only seem to want to favorite things to look at later, when in reality, the next time they will look at this piece could be debatable. Art deserves appreciation, and appreciation is best expressed in words. When people do the artist the courtesy of telling somebody why they like it and how it makes them feel, immediately, the artist has discovered his or her flairs, and can work with them to create more brilliant art. =]

Spread the word, and please, let us know how your teaching works out!

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Mtn-Man In reply to bringbackart [2008-05-25 00:54:37 +0000 UTC]

Absolutely so. I shall also keep in touch, and try my hardest to spread the word. Also, keep up the superb work.

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bringbackart In reply to Mtn-Man [2008-05-25 15:04:14 +0000 UTC]

Thanks so much! We'll keep doing what we do best. =]

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InvaderIza In reply to ??? [2008-05-10 21:09:28 +0000 UTC]

I'll be sure to take this advice to heart.

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bringbackart In reply to InvaderIza [2008-05-23 18:26:09 +0000 UTC]

Thanks so much! We're really glad it helped you! =]
Spread the word, and dA will be a better place for all!

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InvaderIza In reply to bringbackart [2008-05-23 21:11:11 +0000 UTC]

Indeed I shall! :strikes a proud pose:

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Renown0 In reply to ??? [2008-05-06 16:45:12 +0000 UTC]

So unbelievably true. I faved this so I could come back and read it religiously.

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bringbackart In reply to Renown0 [2008-05-23 18:26:31 +0000 UTC]

You rock! Thanks so much for doing that, I hope it serves you well into the future! =]

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Critical-Error In reply to ??? [2008-04-29 05:27:12 +0000 UTC]

I don't commonly give comments (lack of words and all that) but I suppose this should help. I could direct some certain fave-bombers toward it if nothing else. Thank you. <333

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bringbackart In reply to Critical-Error [2008-05-23 18:28:33 +0000 UTC]

You rock my socks! Please, send everybody you know this way! The more people who know, the better a place dA will be for us and future generations!

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hana-dawn In reply to ??? [2008-04-26 20:05:53 +0000 UTC]

I'll read it more carefully later. I bet it's like a bible xD

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bringbackart In reply to hana-dawn [2008-05-23 18:29:04 +0000 UTC]

Haha! It's a Bible to some, and a long bit of boring writing to others! Whatever the case, read and enjoy! We hope it serves you well into the future! =]

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JalessiaJ In reply to ??? [2008-03-23 01:37:44 +0000 UTC]

I really needed this
I'm just now starting to give detailed comments (beyond "cool" or "cute") and this helps me to learn how. Thanks for making this

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bringbackart In reply to JalessiaJ [2008-05-23 18:39:09 +0000 UTC]

You're more than welcome! We're really glad this helps you! Please spread the word, and make dA a better place! =]

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Pola-444 In reply to ??? [2008-03-13 20:02:09 +0000 UTC]

this was great i'll definitely try to use this when commenting more. I wish it included ways to specifically help with writing. Like questions we should ask ourselves when reading people's poetry or prose.

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suzaku18 In reply to ??? [2008-03-12 11:26:41 +0000 UTC]

why did i not come across this sooner? >.<

this is definitely helpful. and easy to remember! thanks for this!

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bishielurfer In reply to ??? [2008-03-09 02:10:54 +0000 UTC]

This is really well written and helpful, though I'm sure if I don't look back on it frequently, I'll forget it Critiquing is a hard thing for me, as people sometimes take it wrong and then I feel terrible It's also awkward critiquing someone who's a lot better than you.

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blueespeon122 In reply to ??? [2008-03-05 22:49:37 +0000 UTC]

This is very helpful, great post.

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snapesgirl34 In reply to ??? [2008-03-05 21:07:13 +0000 UTC]

This awesome. Great work.

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ForgettenOne In reply to ??? [2008-02-19 11:06:48 +0000 UTC]

Loving it. .

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RolandBoyce In reply to ??? [2008-02-18 02:58:44 +0000 UTC]

I wish I had seen this when I first joined da it would of been one of the first things in my favorites gallery .Its a good guide I wish more people would take the time to actually read it and its definitely going in my

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thatIam In reply to ??? [2008-02-06 02:23:31 +0000 UTC]

wow ... that's simply perfect ... Thank you!

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chiipyo In reply to ??? [2008-02-05 12:34:05 +0000 UTC]

Absolutely right ..!
I think artists need the comments to get probably better... you know what i'm trying to say?q_q'
It's THE thing u need to getting better...
"Critique & Comments."
And I think this here... is the best Submition around here....If u guys know what I mean~ (:
[...]
I'm gonna to this now.

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meekadog12 In reply to ??? [2008-01-26 22:53:31 +0000 UTC]

I completely agree with what you've written here! I joined DA to get critique on my art, but I very rarely get what I'd like because of the "fave and run" system that's evolved. Thank you for putting this together for the community to use!

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Prowlerk In reply to ??? [2008-01-26 12:43:59 +0000 UTC]

this one is really worth reading. Now it's more understandable for me what to comment. that makes me happy
still, w've got such a pity situation in our galleries, but now will it be possible to improve. hope so)
thank you for a good article.

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Mind-rape-101 In reply to ??? [2008-01-24 00:47:27 +0000 UTC]

this really help full.

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FutileLC In reply to ??? [2008-01-22 08:12:12 +0000 UTC]

this is very helpful despite how easy a comment is to make lol.
I admit I am guilty of faving then running without much to say.
however I will be studying this it must have taken a lot of effort to write this whole guide up.

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Jujupancakes In reply to ??? [2008-01-11 02:01:56 +0000 UTC]

Hmmm, must study this! I'm running out of things to say when commenting .

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Ossifrege In reply to ??? [2008-01-09 02:58:34 +0000 UTC]

This is wonderful! I think I'll write down some of those questions so i can ask myself before I write a comment.

I always try to write good comments instead of just "cool" or something dumb like that. I'm never really sure what to say though

This is a big help, thank you!

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bringbackart In reply to Ossifrege [2008-05-23 18:45:12 +0000 UTC]

Thanks so much for reading and taking this to heart! You're helping to make dA a better place! Please spread the word about this! =]

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Silver-Amphiptere In reply to ??? [2008-01-09 00:18:55 +0000 UTC]

hahaha
when I read the TEI bit, I was instantly reminded of my high school english lessons - One teacher explained her way of writing a paragraph in an essay as TEE -
Topic Sentence
Evidence and
Explanation

Given that, I'd say some serious thought went into this guide. Not something you see everyday on DA anymore, sadly. Kudos to you

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bringbackart In reply to Silver-Amphiptere [2008-05-23 18:46:48 +0000 UTC]

Wow, that's scary, my English teacher totally did that too! That's half the reason I did the whole TEI thing, because I thought it was so much easier to remember! It's probably some agreed English teacher mantra. xD

English teachers aside, thanks so much for giving this a read, and I'm really glad this served you well! Spread the word, and help make a better place out of dA! =]

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ElStormo In reply to ??? [2008-01-08 11:27:14 +0000 UTC]

I applaud the effort, but sadly, the only people who'll read this are people who already put in a lot of effort when commenting, and the MySpace twerps who fave without commenting or who only say, "lolol nice" will never read this... so I'm afraid you're preaching to the choir.

This is not to say I don't agree with the sentiment, both of this guide and of your account. I'm extremely annoyed with all the worthless waste of server space that those MySpace idiots take in, but as long as the admins don't care one way or the other (hey, more exposure = more profit) nothing will change.

Still, good job, on both the account and the guide

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bringbackart In reply to ElStormo [2008-05-23 18:49:18 +0000 UTC]

Not necessarily. You are right in the fact that the people who read this are the people who are already doing the last strand of good here on dA, but it sure goes a long way if people like us have a place where we can send those who can't get things together.

This guide is made as a simple reference for those who already know how to do the basics, and it's up to them to spread the word, and go out and tell others all about it! A simple link will do the trick, and will convert one of many people! It's that effect, where if two people do it, and those two do it again...well, one day, maybe dA will be about the art again. =]

Thank you so much for your comments regardless, I hope this helped. =]

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ElStormo In reply to bringbackart [2008-05-23 19:25:19 +0000 UTC]

Yep that makes sense

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Anima-Lux-Artifex In reply to ??? [2008-01-05 16:03:40 +0000 UTC]

Haha...this will be really helpfull for alot of people

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bringbackart In reply to Anima-Lux-Artifex [2008-05-23 18:50:06 +0000 UTC]

Thanks you so much! We're really glad it helped you! Your comments keep us going! Make sure you spread the word around dA to make this place more about the art! =]

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losertastic-toaster In reply to ??? [2008-01-03 20:17:21 +0000 UTC]

Thankyou so much for this, i'll totally be keeping it in mind for future reference... just one little thing, could you possibly give us an example of a good comment?

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