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Description Deviant Guide: Good Comments

Since deviantART was first born on August 7th 2000, comments have always retained an air of mystery. deviantART was one of the first dedicated art communities of its kind, and it inspired a standard that is our duty to uphold today. As a deviant, you can play an important role in helping a fellow artist develop their skills, and helping the community retain a level of quality to be proud of.

And all it takes is a comment.

Why Does It Concern Me?

deviantART has a favorite system that has slowly diminished the importance of good critique throughout the site, and reduced the level of effort required for feedback to an artist. In communities where such a system does not exist, receiving a comment is an honor that members of deviantART will sadly never experience the same way members of these other communities will.

However, deviantART has something no other community has: spirit. Like no other community of its kind, deviantART exhibits passion and interest in art that is shown no where else. As such, the importance of maintaining this spirit is foremost. Improving the quality of our comments is one way we can do this.

A truly outstanding comment is always hard to compose, always hard to receive, and always hard to come by. For an artist however, a comment is of the greatest importance. It provides feedback on a deviation that will continue to remain unmatched by that of a favorite. To an artist, a comment is the difference between progression and refinement of ones skills, and continuity of an undeveloped style.

Where Is Critique Appropriate?

The golden rule of critique is always to ask yourself "is it appropriate to this work?" There are many examples of work here on deviantART where it is not necessary to give a massive comment, or where it is impossible to sit and analyze a piece of work for techniques. Make sure you ask yourself that question before you start to comment and save yourself wasted time.

Also make sure you only give critique where it is desired. deviantART has a wonderful system where deviants can select their desired level of critique, and having respect for an artists wishes can save you from a whole depth of trouble.

Consider yourself pre-warned: not everybody appreciates critique, and not everybody will take warmly to your opinion. Just know it's for the benefit of the recipient.

How To Give A Good Comment

A good comment is almost always composed of three important key topics. These are:

Techniques
Effects
Improvements

A good comment will always touch on one or more elements contained in these three areas, and will be highly beneficial to the receiving artist.

A good way to remember these three keep topics is to remember “TEI”, pronounced “tea”. Whenever you view a deviation, think about how you’re going to give them some “tea”.

Techniques

To most deviants, this is the element of commenting that is hardest to perfect and understand, and is often the reason why both givers and receivers of good critique are often confused.

The key step to this part of a comment is to look before you write. It is always tempting as a deviant to jump in and comment right away, but a good comment requires more than just a quick glance at a deviation.

Look at the deviation and ask yourself the following questions, which all refer to techniques the composer has used deliberately:

What are the colors like?
Do the colors blend together, or do they stick out? Is the piece comprised of a small number of colors, or does it utilize many?

How are the elements of the piece arranged? (This is called composition)
Where does your eye first move to? From what angle does the scene appear to be portrayed from? How light or dark is the picture?

How big or small is the subject of the picture?
Is it very far zoomed in or a great distance zoomed out?

Is the picture warped or realistic?
Are there lots of definite shapes in the piece, or is it very indefinite (often a technique of surreal or abstract art)?

What sort of focus does the piece use?
Does the composer use intricate detail, or is the picture very blurry? Does the shot highlight a small part of the scene, or does it capture a vast area?

Does the deviation contain textures?
If you were to touch the texture, how would it feel? Rough? Soft? Sandy?

These are six questions you should ask yourself every time you look at a deviation. Make sure you take an appropriate amount of time to inspect the piece for these techniques.

Effects

This part of a comment is perhaps the easiest, and surely the most practiced part of commenting around the deviantART community.

Describing the effects of the techniques upon you is as easy as saying how the piece makes you feel as the viewer.

There is nothing hard about listing your emotions. However there are some questions you can use to make sure what you are saying is relevant:

How does the piece make you feel?
Does it make you feel happy or sad? Does it make you want to cry or burst out laughing?

Does the piece remind you of something?
Does anything in the scene remind you of something from your childhood? Do the objects look similar to something you’ve seen somewhere before?

What do you like about the picture?
Is there a color that you like? Do you like how the piece is arranged? (Refer to the techniques you’ve already listed)

Make sure your passionate about what you write in this part. If the piece does not make you happy, try not to come across too nasty or unappreciative.

Improvements

This is where the comment can get personal and often get a deviant off side with you. It is important to remember that a deviant spent their time making this piece. However tempting it is to be nasty, don’t ever just write that you “hate the piece” or “dislike it” without having some evidence to back it up.

The purpose of providing the techniques and effects in parts one and two of the comment is to provide this evidence, and if done correctly, it should accurately reflect you attitude to this part of the comment. If it doesn’t, go back and rethink the questions we asked ourselves earlier on.

Offering improvements to a deviant is often going to end up with a sad receiver. Everybody adapts to their own style after a while, and it often hurts to be told that it’s not that great. On the same token, offering improvements to a deviant can be the greatest gift you can ever give.

Here are two questions to ask yourself while giving improvements:

What would make this piece even better?
Always refer to the techniques you used in part one. This will make your comment sound much more professional, and come across as helpful rather than forceful. Find techniques that you think could have been done better, and if possible, post links to another deviation that examples what you’re referring to. This can be inspiring to the deviant and give them a great example to bounce ideas off.

Why do I think you’re a good artist and why do I like your work?
All this time we’ve been professional and offering tips and examples. This is the part where you get to give some real praise. Leaving a comment ending with just improvements would leave the artist feeling down. A kind word never goes astray, so tell them why you liked their work, and why you think they deserve your help! Don’t shy up, nothing will make a deviant happier to hear how much you appreciate their input to the community!

Favorite?
Of course, it’s well within your rights to offer a favorite, so don’t be afraid to tell them they deserve it if you decide to give one! Make sure you really think it deserves a favorite though. If everybody favorites it, it’s not going to mean much to a deviant after a while.

Whats ddi yuo jst tyep?
Never forget to revise what you've written! The best comments are not only honest and well written, but they actually make sense!

Spelling and grammar may not be your thing, but you can at least do the deviant the favor of making it legible. They'll love you even more.

Length

Many deviants are unsure of how long a comment should be. But it’s really simple: how much do you need to write?

Just because a comment is short, doesn’t mean it’s not a good comment, and vice versa for a long comment. Length means nothing. It’s the content that counts.

Is That It Already?

You better believe it! Making good comments is really that easy! Just follow the steps provided, and you’re on your way to making comments that everybody is going to love you for.

Remember one important thing though: always be yourself. No matter what formula you use, nothing means more to an artist to receive an honest comment from somebody who shows that they care about what a piece means to them.

Happy commenting everybody!

Nathan (~kle0012 ) and Kitty (~kittysyellowjacket )
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bcatt In reply to ??? [2008-08-30 19:59:42 +0000 UTC]

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jELLyFounTain In reply to ??? [2008-08-21 16:16:30 +0000 UTC]

Wonderfull..! May i use this text in my journal?

Thank you

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bringbackart In reply to jELLyFounTain [2008-08-26 13:45:30 +0000 UTC]

Of course! The more people that know about this, the better! Let me know if you post it, we would love to have a look!

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jELLyFounTain In reply to bringbackart [2008-08-26 13:58:35 +0000 UTC]

Done .

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ClaireRedfield In reply to ??? [2008-08-20 08:56:32 +0000 UTC]

now this is it what a few peoples really do need ^^ sadly i just got a fave without any comment from that member so i reminded him/her a comment would be nice.. so he/she did wrote to that pic 'nice'
what kind of comment is that? xD i will suggest this Deviant Guide Good Comment for that member

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bringbackart In reply to ClaireRedfield [2008-08-26 13:46:03 +0000 UTC]

Hey, thanks so much! Your support helps us to make deviantART a better place!

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ClaireRedfield In reply to bringbackart [2008-08-26 15:30:03 +0000 UTC]

i really wish we could , may i join to your club? ^^ i watched it already <33

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bringbackart In reply to ClaireRedfield [2008-08-26 15:42:10 +0000 UTC]

No problems! I've got to get around to updating the members list, and at present, but rest assured your name will be in there as soon as I get to it! =]

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ClaireRedfield In reply to bringbackart [2008-08-26 15:49:14 +0000 UTC]

take your time ^^ and thanks very much

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cullencrazay In reply to ??? [2008-08-18 13:16:49 +0000 UTC]

This is absolutly wonderful, I love it! I so agree, good job! ^^

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bringbackart In reply to cullencrazay [2008-08-26 13:46:24 +0000 UTC]

Thanks so much, seriously! Your kind words make writing this the best part!

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KamikazeGeisha In reply to ??? [2008-08-16 01:55:41 +0000 UTC]

Wow!
I really love this "tutorial"; the layout and presentation of information, as well as appropriate italisizing, was magnificient.
I do not understand why you did not put the body in the deviation itself(like litrature peices), but you have a right to the way you do things.
Speaking of literature, I have one major suggestion: Why not include how to give good literature comments? Just becuase the writers are a small percentage of the DA community does not mean we should be left out. Sometimes, one good poem or story can make a difference.
As a writer, I practically beg for comments and critique. I'd appreciate it if you could help people learn to comment literature, as I'm sure all the other writers will.
Thanks so much for what you have written though. Definitely worth a fave, and the time to spread the link around.

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bringbackart In reply to KamikazeGeisha [2008-08-26 13:48:26 +0000 UTC]

You know what, you are absolutely right! I'm going to get started on a new guide right away on how to critique literature! As somebody who used to do a lot of writing myself, I understand how damn frustrating it is when people can't give any help in the way of a decent comment, and a guide on how to do it would certainly go a long way towards making it a little less hard!

Thank you SO much for the idea, I'm going to get writing now, and I'll make sure your name goes right at the top for the awesome suggestion!

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KamikazeGeisha In reply to bringbackart [2008-08-30 14:48:03 +0000 UTC]

Wow, thanks. I can't wait to read to the new guide.
*very excited happy dance*

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shadowdeath-wolf-666 In reply to ??? [2008-08-08 00:04:26 +0000 UTC]

thank you so much for making this~!

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bringbackart In reply to shadowdeath-wolf-666 [2008-08-26 13:50:15 +0000 UTC]

You're so welcome, I'm so glad it helped you! =]

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OtisBee In reply to ??? [2008-08-04 13:44:00 +0000 UTC]

it makes me think
...and damn right it even makes me think even more.

i've been asking myself for so long "what would be the best comment on some of my work?"

and you're so right that feedback made under the "TEI" conditions would help me see my work from a different angle a lot.

i hope i can keep that in mind when i comment on the next art myself.

thank you very much for this "tutorial".

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bringbackart In reply to OtisBee [2008-08-26 13:52:02 +0000 UTC]

You're so welcome! I'm so glad it helped, and if we can do anything else for you, send us a note and we'll get right on it!

Cheers for helping to make deviantART an even better place! =]

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starkisscrossed In reply to ??? [2008-07-31 13:28:05 +0000 UTC]

can you give me some comments following these rules?

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bringbackart In reply to starkisscrossed [2008-08-26 13:59:31 +0000 UTC]

Sure thing! Here's a link to a comment we left on a deviation for somebody:

[link]

Although it's fairly detailed sometimes, it's just a basic example of what is possible using TEI. =]

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JurgenDoe In reply to ??? [2008-07-20 12:30:05 +0000 UTC]

I think it a great thing and I'll feature this to spread the word

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bringbackart In reply to JurgenDoe [2008-08-26 13:59:44 +0000 UTC]

Awesome! Thanks so much for your support! =]

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JurgenDoe In reply to bringbackart [2008-08-26 22:38:17 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome

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RisingSunfish In reply to ??? [2008-07-20 05:32:02 +0000 UTC]

I feel it's my obligation to my fellow artists to leave comments on *at least* everything I . Hopefully this will spread around and commenting will become a more frequent habit for people. It's the least you can do to support your friends.

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bringbackart In reply to RisingSunfish [2008-08-26 14:05:29 +0000 UTC]

Absolutely! Thanks for the support! =]

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Otacon144 [2008-07-18 19:02:23 +0000 UTC]

Aside from a few minor errors in spelling and syntax, this essay makes a very good point: Effective Commenting is quickly becoming a lost art, like an ancient martial-art, which is what I thought of after reading the acronym. It sounds like a Kiai.

*punches* Tei!

Many people need to see this.

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bringbackart In reply to Otacon144 [2008-08-26 14:06:56 +0000 UTC]

TEI all the way! Is there any chance you could let me know of those spelling and grammar errors? I'd love to get on top of them asap! =]

Cheers for the support!

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Otacon144 In reply to bringbackart [2008-08-27 04:15:12 +0000 UTC]

I'll toss you a note with the paragraphs I spotted them in. I'll put the corrections between two *s.

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InsaneGelfling In reply to ??? [2008-07-15 10:23:57 +0000 UTC]

Well said. I mainly use this site for exposure as the critique is not great. I find photography forums more useful for critique.

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bringbackart In reply to InsaneGelfling [2008-08-26 14:08:04 +0000 UTC]

I agree, deviantART is best used for exposure, due mainly to the adverting model that the website exhibits, but maybe one day, if we keep on spreading the word, we could at least see an increase in the number of people who even know how to leave a decent critique, let alone do so. =]

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Doksuri In reply to ??? [2008-07-13 16:09:00 +0000 UTC]

Wow great! Thanks for this! I always have trouble thinking up long comments lol

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bringbackart In reply to Doksuri [2008-08-26 14:08:51 +0000 UTC]

Haha! No worries, similar story here half the time, and we're the people who wrote this! =]

Thanks for the support, hope it comes in handy for the future!

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easlucas In reply to ??? [2008-07-07 14:27:04 +0000 UTC]

This really gave me a lot to think about. I think my comments will be better now that I've read this, as well as my responses.

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bringbackart In reply to easlucas [2008-08-26 14:09:56 +0000 UTC]

Writing this was all worth it after hearing you say that! =]
I'm so glad it helped, and I hope it will do so for a long time to come!

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Caracal007 In reply to ??? [2008-07-07 10:22:42 +0000 UTC]

A very useful tutorial. I myself am guilty of simply saying:
"Great/Cool/Sweet/Awesome work on the new picture."
though I do at times try and highlight an aspect I liked. I don't always feel I have the right to say "improve this, this and this" if their skills are greater than mine.

One thing you may want to mention (if you're looking to update/modify this) is to highlight how important it is to read author comments. Often if I notice a flaw when I finish a picture or upload a wip to my scraps, I'll highlight those flaws myself. In my opinion there's nothing more annoying in my opinion then seeing someone pointing out say an anatomy issue when I've already said "I know ___ part of the anatomy is off". I realise they're trying to help, but if they took the time to read the author comments they'd know I'm already aware of the problem.

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bringbackart In reply to Caracal007 [2008-08-29 15:42:56 +0000 UTC]


Thank you for your suggestion. I guess we'll see what we can do with it, it sounds quite fun!

Thank you also for your support, keep up your hard work!

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Caracal007 In reply to bringbackart [2008-08-30 16:01:49 +0000 UTC]

Another suggestion - I find it a lot easier to accept criticism if it starts off and possibly ends on a good point. I appreciate my work is far from perfect and know I have a long way to go before I am anywhere near as good as I want to be. I realise most people who leave in depth criticism are just trying to help me, but I find it harder to listen to their advice if all it says is:
"This is bad. This is bad. And this is bad."

Even one small thing like "Great to see you're branching out into new areas" or "Nice job on __" leaves me feeling confident about my work and more inclined to take their advice. On a few occasions I've found my confidence destroyed after helpful crit only highlighted the flaws and it’s taken me a week regain it.

Obviously I don't want people to sugar coats comments. As a beginner looking for advice to improve, I want to know where I've gone wrong, how, why and how to get better. However at the same time I would appreciate it if people acknowledge my improvements and take steps forward with my art. It helps fill me with self confidence and reassures me that I am getting better, and I'm sure others feel the same.

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elti In reply to ??? [2008-07-07 06:50:21 +0000 UTC]

good work!! i was searshing 4 something like this. how many times i just dont like say: wow!! or great!! for a masterpiece, lol tanks (:

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bringbackart In reply to elti [2008-08-27 13:47:13 +0000 UTC]


So glad you found it handy.
Thanks a lot for your support. [:

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InKibus In reply to ??? [2008-07-06 22:44:38 +0000 UTC]

More Deviants need to take this kind of writing and apply it!
DA is free for all, and can be used as liked.
A group is just a group.
A group that shows appreciation and respect for all is an Army of Artisans! :woot:

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bringbackart In reply to InKibus [2008-08-29 15:29:37 +0000 UTC]


Hooray for armies of artisans! [:

Thank you for your really kind support. We really appreciate people like you helping out!

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soadown In reply to ??? [2008-07-03 17:48:31 +0000 UTC]

that was really helpful I hope more people see this and put it into effect

Thanks!

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bringbackart In reply to soadown [2008-08-27 13:47:44 +0000 UTC]


Why no, thank you for your support.
More than happy to help. [:

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soadown In reply to bringbackart [2008-08-27 19:30:39 +0000 UTC]

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Cielolei In reply to ??? [2008-07-01 20:49:28 +0000 UTC]

I thinks it's very helpful^^ Great post/article

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bringbackart In reply to Cielolei [2008-08-29 15:24:53 +0000 UTC]


Thank you! We're glad we could help you.
[:

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Limetastic In reply to ??? [2008-06-28 18:45:00 +0000 UTC]

I think this will really help people learn how to comment appropriately when looking at a piece of art. Great guide!

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bringbackart In reply to Limetastic [2008-08-29 15:37:03 +0000 UTC]


Thank you so much for your support! It's really rewarding to be able to try to change the way things are and hopefully it'll go really far.
[:

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Akemi-Ayura [2008-06-19 03:25:04 +0000 UTC]

Every artist should want such comments and most people should want to give such comments. I love when someone points out mistakes. In fact I rely on those watchers when I get them they're my second set of eyes to make my art better. Great work on outline the do's/don't's of comment making.

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bringbackart In reply to Akemi-Ayura [2008-08-29 15:41:54 +0000 UTC]


I think it's a dream for most artists to receive such comments and it is actually fun to give such comments too! Thank you for your support, keep up your hard work! [:

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