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Description Deviant Guide: Good Comments

Since deviantART was first born on August 7th 2000, comments have always retained an air of mystery. deviantART was one of the first dedicated art communities of its kind, and it inspired a standard that is our duty to uphold today. As a deviant, you can play an important role in helping a fellow artist develop their skills, and helping the community retain a level of quality to be proud of.

And all it takes is a comment.

Why Does It Concern Me?

deviantART has a favorite system that has slowly diminished the importance of good critique throughout the site, and reduced the level of effort required for feedback to an artist. In communities where such a system does not exist, receiving a comment is an honor that members of deviantART will sadly never experience the same way members of these other communities will.

However, deviantART has something no other community has: spirit. Like no other community of its kind, deviantART exhibits passion and interest in art that is shown no where else. As such, the importance of maintaining this spirit is foremost. Improving the quality of our comments is one way we can do this.

A truly outstanding comment is always hard to compose, always hard to receive, and always hard to come by. For an artist however, a comment is of the greatest importance. It provides feedback on a deviation that will continue to remain unmatched by that of a favorite. To an artist, a comment is the difference between progression and refinement of ones skills, and continuity of an undeveloped style.

Where Is Critique Appropriate?

The golden rule of critique is always to ask yourself "is it appropriate to this work?" There are many examples of work here on deviantART where it is not necessary to give a massive comment, or where it is impossible to sit and analyze a piece of work for techniques. Make sure you ask yourself that question before you start to comment and save yourself wasted time.

Also make sure you only give critique where it is desired. deviantART has a wonderful system where deviants can select their desired level of critique, and having respect for an artists wishes can save you from a whole depth of trouble.

Consider yourself pre-warned: not everybody appreciates critique, and not everybody will take warmly to your opinion. Just know it's for the benefit of the recipient.

How To Give A Good Comment

A good comment is almost always composed of three important key topics. These are:

Techniques
Effects
Improvements

A good comment will always touch on one or more elements contained in these three areas, and will be highly beneficial to the receiving artist.

A good way to remember these three keep topics is to remember “TEI”, pronounced “tea”. Whenever you view a deviation, think about how you’re going to give them some “tea”.

Techniques

To most deviants, this is the element of commenting that is hardest to perfect and understand, and is often the reason why both givers and receivers of good critique are often confused.

The key step to this part of a comment is to look before you write. It is always tempting as a deviant to jump in and comment right away, but a good comment requires more than just a quick glance at a deviation.

Look at the deviation and ask yourself the following questions, which all refer to techniques the composer has used deliberately:

What are the colors like?
Do the colors blend together, or do they stick out? Is the piece comprised of a small number of colors, or does it utilize many?

How are the elements of the piece arranged? (This is called composition)
Where does your eye first move to? From what angle does the scene appear to be portrayed from? How light or dark is the picture?

How big or small is the subject of the picture?
Is it very far zoomed in or a great distance zoomed out?

Is the picture warped or realistic?
Are there lots of definite shapes in the piece, or is it very indefinite (often a technique of surreal or abstract art)?

What sort of focus does the piece use?
Does the composer use intricate detail, or is the picture very blurry? Does the shot highlight a small part of the scene, or does it capture a vast area?

Does the deviation contain textures?
If you were to touch the texture, how would it feel? Rough? Soft? Sandy?

These are six questions you should ask yourself every time you look at a deviation. Make sure you take an appropriate amount of time to inspect the piece for these techniques.

Effects

This part of a comment is perhaps the easiest, and surely the most practiced part of commenting around the deviantART community.

Describing the effects of the techniques upon you is as easy as saying how the piece makes you feel as the viewer.

There is nothing hard about listing your emotions. However there are some questions you can use to make sure what you are saying is relevant:

How does the piece make you feel?
Does it make you feel happy or sad? Does it make you want to cry or burst out laughing?

Does the piece remind you of something?
Does anything in the scene remind you of something from your childhood? Do the objects look similar to something you’ve seen somewhere before?

What do you like about the picture?
Is there a color that you like? Do you like how the piece is arranged? (Refer to the techniques you’ve already listed)

Make sure your passionate about what you write in this part. If the piece does not make you happy, try not to come across too nasty or unappreciative.

Improvements

This is where the comment can get personal and often get a deviant off side with you. It is important to remember that a deviant spent their time making this piece. However tempting it is to be nasty, don’t ever just write that you “hate the piece” or “dislike it” without having some evidence to back it up.

The purpose of providing the techniques and effects in parts one and two of the comment is to provide this evidence, and if done correctly, it should accurately reflect you attitude to this part of the comment. If it doesn’t, go back and rethink the questions we asked ourselves earlier on.

Offering improvements to a deviant is often going to end up with a sad receiver. Everybody adapts to their own style after a while, and it often hurts to be told that it’s not that great. On the same token, offering improvements to a deviant can be the greatest gift you can ever give.

Here are two questions to ask yourself while giving improvements:

What would make this piece even better?
Always refer to the techniques you used in part one. This will make your comment sound much more professional, and come across as helpful rather than forceful. Find techniques that you think could have been done better, and if possible, post links to another deviation that examples what you’re referring to. This can be inspiring to the deviant and give them a great example to bounce ideas off.

Why do I think you’re a good artist and why do I like your work?
All this time we’ve been professional and offering tips and examples. This is the part where you get to give some real praise. Leaving a comment ending with just improvements would leave the artist feeling down. A kind word never goes astray, so tell them why you liked their work, and why you think they deserve your help! Don’t shy up, nothing will make a deviant happier to hear how much you appreciate their input to the community!

Favorite?
Of course, it’s well within your rights to offer a favorite, so don’t be afraid to tell them they deserve it if you decide to give one! Make sure you really think it deserves a favorite though. If everybody favorites it, it’s not going to mean much to a deviant after a while.

Whats ddi yuo jst tyep?
Never forget to revise what you've written! The best comments are not only honest and well written, but they actually make sense!

Spelling and grammar may not be your thing, but you can at least do the deviant the favor of making it legible. They'll love you even more.

Length

Many deviants are unsure of how long a comment should be. But it’s really simple: how much do you need to write?

Just because a comment is short, doesn’t mean it’s not a good comment, and vice versa for a long comment. Length means nothing. It’s the content that counts.

Is That It Already?

You better believe it! Making good comments is really that easy! Just follow the steps provided, and you’re on your way to making comments that everybody is going to love you for.

Remember one important thing though: always be yourself. No matter what formula you use, nothing means more to an artist to receive an honest comment from somebody who shows that they care about what a piece means to them.

Happy commenting everybody!

Nathan (~kle0012 ) and Kitty (~kittysyellowjacket )
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Comments: 780

Blastermind In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 13:34:02 +0000 UTC]

this is great ^^

indeed deviant art has the best 'atmosphere' in the internet - just compare the comments on dA to the comments on youtube: while on dA people care about good manners you will find many videos on you tube with comments of insulting and swearing... in case of that I think every dA user should mind and appreciate the 'spirit' of dA

your comment tutorial is epic! heheeee ... almost some kind of book for the dA bible ^^

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Tohmo In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 13:05:49 +0000 UTC]

Useful tutorial, many good tips! I will try to use as many as possible in the future.

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Marsuwai In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 12:55:13 +0000 UTC]

Something the community really needs. no sarcasm.

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bringbackart In reply to Marsuwai [2008-09-24 12:58:08 +0000 UTC]


Thank you for your kind words. No sarcasm.

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enagem In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 12:47:23 +0000 UTC]

will always remember and keep in mind. thanks!

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InscrutableArt [2008-09-23 12:47:05 +0000 UTC]

Wow, this is truely so detailed and explanative. Not to mention, some special insight on criticism/improvements.

Oh, and especially the spelling AND grammar. A MUST for long or short comments.

Tei, anyone?

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victortky In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 12:42:48 +0000 UTC]

This is well done. I love this piece of work. I can comment better now.

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Yinnyari [2008-09-23 12:35:38 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for putting the time and effort into creating this guide.

This is very welcome and I'm sure will help lots of lurkers find a "voice"

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Ba-ni In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 12:32:32 +0000 UTC]

I'll try to comment every picture I ^^

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bringbackart In reply to Ba-ni [2008-09-24 12:57:31 +0000 UTC]


Nice to know we've made an impact on your attitude! Thank you for your support.

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javguerre In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 12:31:22 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for writing this guide. Now we can only hope that the dA community will put this into practice.

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bringbackart In reply to javguerre [2008-09-24 14:11:15 +0000 UTC]


With all the support we've been receiving, it looks really likely that it could be put into practise really soon! Thank you for your input! [:

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Twilights-Maiden In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 12:30:12 +0000 UTC]

This is a wonderful article. It is clear and concise. Thanks for this much needed resource!

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blueisthemoon In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 12:30:07 +0000 UTC]

Really liked the guide, detailed and pretty complete. I also loved the picture, it looks like a book cover =3

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bringbackart In reply to blueisthemoon [2008-09-24 14:12:02 +0000 UTC]


We're really glad you liked it, thank you for taking your time to support us!

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RurokenChimera In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 12:27:45 +0000 UTC]

Oh man, this is so helpful. But you know, sometimes, I just don't know how to express it why I like something or any recommendations to improve it. I've gotten better, but sometimes, I know I have been one to do a "hit-and-run" favorite. I try not to do that now....

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Carbuncle16 In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 12:11:28 +0000 UTC]

Aw, thank you very much for this guide: I've always had problems with comments and - well - I wasn't myself typing then. Now I'll do my best with every single comment I'm about to give someone
Thank you once more. It's very useful guide.

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heavencall In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 11:46:52 +0000 UTC]

This is really great! I reminded myself doing alwful things now, so from now on, I intend to be thinking twice before sending my comment... Thank you for the useful tips!

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RebelliousArchAngel In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 11:38:57 +0000 UTC]

Fuck that shit, I say what I want.

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bringbackart In reply to RebelliousArchAngel [2008-09-24 12:56:28 +0000 UTC]


Obviously you do.

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RebelliousArchAngel In reply to bringbackart [2008-09-25 01:09:43 +0000 UTC]

You'll find almost all Forumers do.

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drucpec In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 11:36:52 +0000 UTC]

great one! i always make sure if i am going to fav something.. i at least give them a comment saying why i liked it or why i am faving it.
this is a wonderful deviation. I am glad you put this up here. Its always good for some of us to read something like this and open our eyes about why deviantart is here. for... ready for this... our art! I mean we put up art here so we can get feedback and appreciation or critique.. but yeah now i am just repeating what you said.
thank you for making my day.

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greensky89 In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 11:13:53 +0000 UTC]

thank you

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bringbackart In reply to greensky89 [2008-09-24 12:56:00 +0000 UTC]


You're very welcome.
[:

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dwuff [2008-09-23 11:03:30 +0000 UTC]

"Consider yourself pre-warned: not everybody appreciates critique, and not everybody will take warmly to your opinion. Just know it's for the benefit of the recipient."

Tell me about it!!! I've had whole flame journals aimed my honest and well-intended critiques. Thanks for posting this - it's a good piece of work and very informative!

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TazzyDee [2008-09-23 10:57:37 +0000 UTC]

usually i love giving long, rambling comments about deviations i love..i can't shut up! but for this one i'll keep it pretty short...



thanks so much for making this...i've been particularly disappointed with the lack of in-depth comments, i hope this will help. Thank you

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DianePhotos In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 10:54:39 +0000 UTC]

Great, that's a very nice guide for people who don't know how to write an in-depth comment and I hope many people will take the time to read it !

I agree with everything here and I would also add that giving links to tutorials or examples can be very useful sometimes, when it's hard to explain something with words only.

Very nice initiative, I'll feature it in my next journal if that's ok with you (on my painting account though, since it will have much more exposure there than on my photo account).

Thanks for sharing this "comment tutorial" !

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Rim23shot In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 10:54:02 +0000 UTC]

That's what I do all the time, yet people somehow seem to be angered by my comments on a regular basis. Still, can't be my fault, I am a natural follower of these logical, sensible guidelines. (Kind of sad that someone needed to actually write them down. Tells us a lot about the collective rectum.)

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Jennaris In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 10:48:47 +0000 UTC]

wow this is SO usefull !!!!
thank you for sharing this deviation with us ! cause we all really need it !
you're giving very very good advice to deviants and hope many DA people (and not only) will read this deviation !

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Sake906 In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 10:43:17 +0000 UTC]

I think that the Favorites feature should force users to add a comment per addition, this way artists would know what others find appealing on it and at the same time, it would remove the need to comment on the subject and as well avoid the complaints over not receiving comments over favorites.

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olieviya In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 10:40:30 +0000 UTC]

"Like no other community of its kind, deviantART exhibits passion and interest in art that is shown no where else."

Personally I have no idea as to the factuality of this, and I would like (for curiosity's sake rather any other) to know how true this is, are you a member of other art communities?

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Saphitri In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 10:39:33 +0000 UTC]

Congrats on your DD! ^^
I've never been that much of a comment-person, but reading this made me realize I really should comment more than I do now. Thanks for all the explaining you did, 'cause it makes much more sense to me now than when I see other artists complaining "a fave means nothing" in comparison with a comment. That always seemed so ungrateful to me, maybe because I'm not a popular or well-known artist around dA and faves are special to me, but I get it now.
So... thank you!

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Maladikta In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 09:44:51 +0000 UTC]

I agree- this must be faved just to spread the word around... one of the most useful tutorials and the best thing is it doesn't only concern dA-society, but some of the tips could be used in real life. Like "Think before you comment" ....

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MikaelTheTwoFace In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 09:43:34 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for this nice guide. I'm sure it will help me and other people, cause sometimes I simply don't know what to say and stay silent.

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Steelia In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 09:39:15 +0000 UTC]

Really, thanks for this... I enjoy leaving detailed comments to people (if the time calls for it, or if they have "Advanced Critique Recommended", or however it goes ), but lately I've been feeling as if all my comments are sounding the same. This'll surely help me step up my game plan once again. Not sure exactly why I've been sounding so repetitive in the first place... >_>

Still, really appreciate you taking the time to make this for those of us who actually want to learn how to leave "good" commments.

--"Steelia"

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rasilverstorm In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 09:25:52 +0000 UTC]

Amen to that, this deserves a favourite just so other people will read and share it ^_^

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bringbackart In reply to rasilverstorm [2008-09-24 14:13:39 +0000 UTC]


Amen indeed! Thank you so much for your wonderful support.

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unicolored In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 07:24:57 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for this guide, my comment are such the same all the time, i'll try to do better now

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Crazylegs76 In reply to ??? [2008-09-19 04:35:07 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for this cause I noticed that I've been going about commenting all wrong basically with a sense of greed for myself on most deviations and snatching them up for favs and not taking consideration for the Deviant and there hard work towards that peice
Especially when I know how much it means to me if someone just grabbed mine without even leaving a reason why as if they were going around pickpocketing deviations for their own greed
Thanx for opening my eyes[link]

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ramikin In reply to ??? [2008-09-08 03:36:26 +0000 UTC]

I try to comment, I honestly do... But sometimes its so hard to come up with the right words to say... So thanks for this - Im going to watch you too

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Sourpatchstraws In reply to ??? [2008-09-06 14:38:33 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for writing this, its really going to help me out whenever I try to critic someone who really needs it.

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rosefoetus In reply to ??? [2008-09-04 17:52:08 +0000 UTC]

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bringbackart In reply to rosefoetus [2008-09-07 20:43:30 +0000 UTC]


Quite an ironic comment there!

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rosefoetus In reply to bringbackart [2008-09-09 18:19:53 +0000 UTC]

hehehe! wanted to see if anyone noticed!?!
on a more mature note though ,
i agree with your sentiment deeply,
and its nice to see that someone has the balls to see what they think!
bravo.

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rosefoetus In reply to rosefoetus [2008-09-09 18:20:53 +0000 UTC]

(*say)

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tinanewtonart [2008-09-02 03:00:49 +0000 UTC]

Lets give TEI like this (with this icon before we write our comments)
Example
(but just as meaningful)

Your Guide is helpful and insightful, by doing this we will share info better and communicate like a good online community should.

*****
so we will be sharing our cups of tea with everyone, adding sugar to deviants days!

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bringbackart In reply to tinanewtonart [2008-09-07 20:45:34 +0000 UTC]



How about 3?! [:

But thank you for your support, it means a lot to us.

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tinanewtonart In reply to bringbackart [2008-10-30 17:35:01 +0000 UTC]

Hell yeah

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bcatt [2008-08-28 12:33:50 +0000 UTC]

Helpful guide, thanks. I learned the art of critique in photography school, but I'm one of those bookwormy types who likes to have references like these around.

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bringbackart In reply to bcatt [2008-08-29 15:38:27 +0000 UTC]


Glad we could help! It means a lot to be able to have your kind of support and we're happy you found this helpful. [:

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