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Description Deviant Guide: Good Comments

Since deviantART was first born on August 7th 2000, comments have always retained an air of mystery. deviantART was one of the first dedicated art communities of its kind, and it inspired a standard that is our duty to uphold today. As a deviant, you can play an important role in helping a fellow artist develop their skills, and helping the community retain a level of quality to be proud of.

And all it takes is a comment.

Why Does It Concern Me?

deviantART has a favorite system that has slowly diminished the importance of good critique throughout the site, and reduced the level of effort required for feedback to an artist. In communities where such a system does not exist, receiving a comment is an honor that members of deviantART will sadly never experience the same way members of these other communities will.

However, deviantART has something no other community has: spirit. Like no other community of its kind, deviantART exhibits passion and interest in art that is shown no where else. As such, the importance of maintaining this spirit is foremost. Improving the quality of our comments is one way we can do this.

A truly outstanding comment is always hard to compose, always hard to receive, and always hard to come by. For an artist however, a comment is of the greatest importance. It provides feedback on a deviation that will continue to remain unmatched by that of a favorite. To an artist, a comment is the difference between progression and refinement of ones skills, and continuity of an undeveloped style.

Where Is Critique Appropriate?

The golden rule of critique is always to ask yourself "is it appropriate to this work?" There are many examples of work here on deviantART where it is not necessary to give a massive comment, or where it is impossible to sit and analyze a piece of work for techniques. Make sure you ask yourself that question before you start to comment and save yourself wasted time.

Also make sure you only give critique where it is desired. deviantART has a wonderful system where deviants can select their desired level of critique, and having respect for an artists wishes can save you from a whole depth of trouble.

Consider yourself pre-warned: not everybody appreciates critique, and not everybody will take warmly to your opinion. Just know it's for the benefit of the recipient.

How To Give A Good Comment

A good comment is almost always composed of three important key topics. These are:

Techniques
Effects
Improvements

A good comment will always touch on one or more elements contained in these three areas, and will be highly beneficial to the receiving artist.

A good way to remember these three keep topics is to remember “TEI”, pronounced “tea”. Whenever you view a deviation, think about how you’re going to give them some “tea”.

Techniques

To most deviants, this is the element of commenting that is hardest to perfect and understand, and is often the reason why both givers and receivers of good critique are often confused.

The key step to this part of a comment is to look before you write. It is always tempting as a deviant to jump in and comment right away, but a good comment requires more than just a quick glance at a deviation.

Look at the deviation and ask yourself the following questions, which all refer to techniques the composer has used deliberately:

What are the colors like?
Do the colors blend together, or do they stick out? Is the piece comprised of a small number of colors, or does it utilize many?

How are the elements of the piece arranged? (This is called composition)
Where does your eye first move to? From what angle does the scene appear to be portrayed from? How light or dark is the picture?

How big or small is the subject of the picture?
Is it very far zoomed in or a great distance zoomed out?

Is the picture warped or realistic?
Are there lots of definite shapes in the piece, or is it very indefinite (often a technique of surreal or abstract art)?

What sort of focus does the piece use?
Does the composer use intricate detail, or is the picture very blurry? Does the shot highlight a small part of the scene, or does it capture a vast area?

Does the deviation contain textures?
If you were to touch the texture, how would it feel? Rough? Soft? Sandy?

These are six questions you should ask yourself every time you look at a deviation. Make sure you take an appropriate amount of time to inspect the piece for these techniques.

Effects

This part of a comment is perhaps the easiest, and surely the most practiced part of commenting around the deviantART community.

Describing the effects of the techniques upon you is as easy as saying how the piece makes you feel as the viewer.

There is nothing hard about listing your emotions. However there are some questions you can use to make sure what you are saying is relevant:

How does the piece make you feel?
Does it make you feel happy or sad? Does it make you want to cry or burst out laughing?

Does the piece remind you of something?
Does anything in the scene remind you of something from your childhood? Do the objects look similar to something you’ve seen somewhere before?

What do you like about the picture?
Is there a color that you like? Do you like how the piece is arranged? (Refer to the techniques you’ve already listed)

Make sure your passionate about what you write in this part. If the piece does not make you happy, try not to come across too nasty or unappreciative.

Improvements

This is where the comment can get personal and often get a deviant off side with you. It is important to remember that a deviant spent their time making this piece. However tempting it is to be nasty, don’t ever just write that you “hate the piece” or “dislike it” without having some evidence to back it up.

The purpose of providing the techniques and effects in parts one and two of the comment is to provide this evidence, and if done correctly, it should accurately reflect you attitude to this part of the comment. If it doesn’t, go back and rethink the questions we asked ourselves earlier on.

Offering improvements to a deviant is often going to end up with a sad receiver. Everybody adapts to their own style after a while, and it often hurts to be told that it’s not that great. On the same token, offering improvements to a deviant can be the greatest gift you can ever give.

Here are two questions to ask yourself while giving improvements:

What would make this piece even better?
Always refer to the techniques you used in part one. This will make your comment sound much more professional, and come across as helpful rather than forceful. Find techniques that you think could have been done better, and if possible, post links to another deviation that examples what you’re referring to. This can be inspiring to the deviant and give them a great example to bounce ideas off.

Why do I think you’re a good artist and why do I like your work?
All this time we’ve been professional and offering tips and examples. This is the part where you get to give some real praise. Leaving a comment ending with just improvements would leave the artist feeling down. A kind word never goes astray, so tell them why you liked their work, and why you think they deserve your help! Don’t shy up, nothing will make a deviant happier to hear how much you appreciate their input to the community!

Favorite?
Of course, it’s well within your rights to offer a favorite, so don’t be afraid to tell them they deserve it if you decide to give one! Make sure you really think it deserves a favorite though. If everybody favorites it, it’s not going to mean much to a deviant after a while.

Whats ddi yuo jst tyep?
Never forget to revise what you've written! The best comments are not only honest and well written, but they actually make sense!

Spelling and grammar may not be your thing, but you can at least do the deviant the favor of making it legible. They'll love you even more.

Length

Many deviants are unsure of how long a comment should be. But it’s really simple: how much do you need to write?

Just because a comment is short, doesn’t mean it’s not a good comment, and vice versa for a long comment. Length means nothing. It’s the content that counts.

Is That It Already?

You better believe it! Making good comments is really that easy! Just follow the steps provided, and you’re on your way to making comments that everybody is going to love you for.

Remember one important thing though: always be yourself. No matter what formula you use, nothing means more to an artist to receive an honest comment from somebody who shows that they care about what a piece means to them.

Happy commenting everybody!

Nathan (~kle0012 ) and Kitty (~kittysyellowjacket )
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Comments: 780

BrownEyesBella In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 20:19:43 +0000 UTC]

This is very useful. Thank you for posting it ^_^

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Kesela In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 20:16:37 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for your succinct explanation! I found the steps to be clear and concise, as well as informative. Perhaps this work will inspire the community at large will take the idea of /constructive/ criticism to heart.

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gr8gustav0 In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 20:05:10 +0000 UTC]

It is great to see that someone made this kind of post. I always try to give good critiques & comments whenever & wherever possible and have experienced the benefits: praise from the artist for pointing out things they missed or providing them suggestions.

It really makes someone's day to get more than a "frist!" or "awesome!" on the work that they possibly spent many hours completing.

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saylem In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 19:55:48 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! This is much needed here.

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Que-Lastima In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 19:47:52 +0000 UTC]

Truly inspiring.

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YouOff [2008-09-23 19:45:47 +0000 UTC]

dude, i'll probably use this for my gcse coursework, not just for comments!

thanks for saving me a lot of work

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MacDoninri In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 19:38:37 +0000 UTC]

this is the first time i saw a 'guide' as a deviation.
very informative.

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blas3nik [2008-09-23 19:24:26 +0000 UTC]

Wow, I'm glad you made it up, to destroy the versatility of the comments by taking away from the personality they belong to. Thanks!

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erisama In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 19:19:36 +0000 UTC]

Excelent guide!
You made me feel better, now.

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bringbackart In reply to erisama [2008-09-24 14:06:26 +0000 UTC]


Glad we could help out then!
Thank you for your support.

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nouthin In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 19:11:52 +0000 UTC]

w.a.w

i love it.

thanks...

perhaps theres translate in indonesian

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kay-lin In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 19:09:43 +0000 UTC]

Wow, that was a really helpful guide. I hope it inspires tons of deviants to write constructively... it worked on me, so with a little luck it should. Thank you! ^_^

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J-Jammer In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 19:06:29 +0000 UTC]

Certain people should have read this prior to joining that writing workshop.

Just my critique.

Nice work. Informative.

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TheTinyHobo In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 19:03:25 +0000 UTC]

Great idea, you guys! I've always thought a sincere comment meant a lot more than a favorite, so I'm glad you made this. It's very helpful, and makes the "chore" of leaving a comment seem not so intimidating!

I hope that this reaches a lot of people, because I can think of quite a few of my dA buddies who could really use this. Haha~ Great job, and best of luck on "bringing back art"!

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dev-Sw1tcH In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 19:01:41 +0000 UTC]

helpful and very well written. for future reference

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dea1h In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 18:56:18 +0000 UTC]

I wish I could get this kind of comment on my work, everyone always just says "nice" or "lol" I've even got "avanced critique" on mine but I rarely get "useful" comments. So thanks I hope this will help alot of people(and motivate others like myself to make slightly more helpful and concise comments)

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clashero In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 18:55:59 +0000 UTC]

Very good, but some parts of it are limited to visual arts (and thus, they leave out the entire literature part of dA, which is smaller but still huge)

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Hara-ism In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 18:52:27 +0000 UTC]

Just- wow. This is definitely a great, no, an amazing guide, and I hope that everyone on DA takes a few minutes out of their day and reads this. <33

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ChynaDolly In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 18:50:20 +0000 UTC]



Nicely put

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YouInventedMe In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 18:46:09 +0000 UTC]

I'm not one to critique the work of others. the most you'll see me do is a point a spelling error or, perhaps, catch an extra syllable in haiku.

as for positive comments, I often just highlight my favorite part or give a basic acknowledgment that I enjoyed the submission. I didn't create a deviantart account be become Roger Ebert.

I have quite a large watchlist and I read/look at every item submitted. if I tried follow these guidelines for every comment, I'd never make it through the list on a daily basis.

myself, I'm perfectly content with knowing that someone read & enjoyed my poem. if they feel the urge to critique, more power to them. if they just want to favorite and go, that's fine too. also, I don't use proper capitalization and I don't feel that people "owe it to me" to do a rough draft of their comment before submitting it.

the idea that a "good comment" is defined by some set of guidelines is, in my opinion, a bit silly.


xo!

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YouInventedMe In reply to YouInventedMe [2008-09-23 18:48:12 +0000 UTC]

everyone be sure to count the typos!




xo!

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thebigG2005 In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 18:38:39 +0000 UTC]

very true words there, a very helpful guide. Well done!

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lee-orr In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 18:38:35 +0000 UTC]

my problem that i run into is, who am i to critique these great artists? I'm not a great artist, and while I would love to offer something constructive and insightful, i don't think i know enough to be truly helpful.

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RC-Adventures [2008-09-23 18:36:56 +0000 UTC]

This is pure genius! I know I strive to be a good commenter. If you are going to look at a person's hard work, why just comment with 'cool' or some goofy chatspeak nonsense? I know I appreciate your work on this, and I shall try to spread the word for those who missed it as a DD. This is exactly what every deviant needs to know and be aware of when joining this site. It would be in everyone's best interests if this were included somewhere for the whole community to see. I only hope at least the majority of them would be mature enough to take it seriously and act as such. You've received many comments thanking you for this, but I must say I too would like to express my gratitude for your time and effort in this. Well deserved DD by all means.

Thank you again,
~a fellow deviant~

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HaikuKitty [2008-09-23 17:50:26 +0000 UTC]

I know what is missing in DA now - a way to feature a specific and wonderful fav on your page so it is always up front and center - a reminder to all that this piece is important to the person who placed it there. If there were such a feature, I would place this in that spot. For now, it will have to be content as a thumb in my journal...

Sometimes, due to the large volume of art that is here, and my wide range of taste I do not have the time to comment in depth as much as I would like to - and that makes me sad. Part of the problem with DA is the site is so large it is overwhelming. Making choices on who to comment on is difficult, because life outside of DA is calling. I often feel bad about leaving a quick, that is great! instant fav! on someone's work, but sometimes that is all that I have time for. Giving good comments is time consuming, and rare. But when I do - I always feel good about it, and I know that the artist feels good about it as well. It is the best part of DA... I try to swing by everyone I watch and everyone who watches me at least once every three months and pick a piece to comment fully on, just to let them know I am here and active, and that I care. But, unfortunately - that is all I have time for, and they keep producing amazing things. THank you for a great guide! ~Loretta

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ZeroDragon [2008-09-23 17:46:41 +0000 UTC]

wow, i'm glad i found this! xD
lately i've become quiet a Favourites hogger, and don't leave all to many comments not that i don't want to, but because i find it hard to express myself the way i want. i think this tut of yours will really help me out. thanks, man. and the tut was pretty straight-foreward and clear, which was also a big helped.

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UncarvedWood In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 17:28:48 +0000 UTC]

Good thing this got a DD. The comments on dA generally are the most useless in the entire wide world.

LET'S HOPE IT CHANGES.

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silverdragon4198 In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 17:20:26 +0000 UTC]

I was just wondering if there was a guide to posting comments here. Thanks so much for making this, very helpful.

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greatspirit In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 17:19:59 +0000 UTC]

Hmmm... I'll fave this to read it through again! Very interesting however.
Lack of comments really is something I hate on dA... As much as stacks of "that's soo cool" when you know it's not since you're asking for something constructive... But "tihs is kawaii ^_________^" might also be the result of some sort of very profound thinking that normal words cannot express. Who knows?

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jumomo In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 16:56:46 +0000 UTC]

Ok whoever makes a inappropriate comment now is a sissy! (Oh D'oh)

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Anonymonkey In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 16:45:47 +0000 UTC]

How can we get everyone to read this?
Comments do mean more than faves, for me. I like faves, sure, but knowing SPECIFICALLY why a person decided to fave it is even better.

Thank you so much for this.

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Achmetha In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 16:42:23 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! A lack of constructive comments is something that has always disappointed me about DA. Hopefully this will help the problem.

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dragonririko In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 16:24:59 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for a very helpful guide!

And congrats on the DD!

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bringbackart In reply to dragonririko [2008-09-24 14:09:12 +0000 UTC]


Thank you for the congratulations! [:

Hope you find the guide useful in the future.

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cha-ohs In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 16:21:42 +0000 UTC]

i know I'm fave-and-run-er and it's a problem i'm trying to solve. the worst thing for me is always commenting on something in which i have no personal experience (Vector artwork, 3D renderings, sculpture or jewelry etc) where i feel like, technique-wise, i have nothing to offer

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S-Trange In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 15:57:07 +0000 UTC]

This is great!
and I'm happy to say that I already follow most of these things when I comment, mostly. I won't lie, 'cause I too sometimes write a simple comment saying that I just love the picture, but I do try to say what and why.
I really think more people should comment and comment relevant things.
I would like to get constructive comments helping me improve, I don't take critisism very well though but it hurts more to have spent hours on a picture that no one even commented.

This is really good

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Pandemic-Art In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 15:51:02 +0000 UTC]

This is such a great idea! I hope this will help people, I've seen some NASTY comments... But on the other hand I've seen some very nice helpful comments. Congratulations on the DD! Thanks for taking the time to try and help people.

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vhartley In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 15:50:36 +0000 UTC]

Thank you. The tips you've provided in this deviation are extremely well thought out, and extraordinarily helpful. As you mentioned, technique is always the hardest part for me, especially when I'm looking at a piece using a medium that I really don't know much about. You've provided tips and questions that I can ask myself, even if I don't really know that the deviant must have used x lens or y paints to achieve the look they did.

This is definitely something I'll be adding to my Resources collection for easy referral later. Again, thank you.

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Aulbath In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 15:40:01 +0000 UTC]

I like it, ur cool!

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bringbackart In reply to Aulbath [2008-09-24 12:58:30 +0000 UTC]


A fine example of rebellion.

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Aulbath In reply to bringbackart [2008-09-24 16:12:12 +0000 UTC]

Heh, seriously - some good thoughts in there... I usually do like you say were it is fitting. Though - in most cases, the people are much better at their specific art field than I am... what more can I tell a photographer than I like his works when I don't photograph myself... or have no understanding of it whatsoever (though I had 2 years of Photography-class XD)

On the other hand, most people I know I could tell a thing or two don't want to hear it... which pisses me off, and which also drags the art down if I know the artists is an assclown. Therefore... "i liek it - yourz coolish - MOAR PLZ!" - because nobody gets hurt in the process.

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Kvasii In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 15:30:42 +0000 UTC]

Ah this was much needed

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bringbackart In reply to Kvasii [2008-09-24 14:09:25 +0000 UTC]


Well, we're glad we provided!

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sorcerersapprentice [2008-09-23 15:07:10 +0000 UTC]

A very well put together tutorial, I hope with this I can learn to give better comments to my fellow deviants.
Thank you.

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fuegokid [2008-09-23 14:49:46 +0000 UTC]

Helpful. Gives me tips on what more I can include in my comments.
I have been trying my best to comment, possible with some critique if I find something I didn't like/think it might be improved a bit.
And NEVER use only one word. It has to be a sentence. Because I know myself how much I hate "cute" and "awesome".

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pulbern [2008-09-23 14:20:00 +0000 UTC]

This is super thorough and a very interesting tutorial! Keep up the great work!

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Queen-of-Randomness [2008-09-23 14:08:19 +0000 UTC]

I feel somewhat expected to comment on this and offer my insight.
However, my insight is not exactly deep, so I will leave you with this:

-Congratulations on the DD; I, too, hope DA takes this up as a whole. Well-done!

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sombra29 [2008-09-23 13:56:52 +0000 UTC]

aah, this is very very helpfull.
i like to do improvement comments with a bit of humor,(not offensive one of course) but somethimes i see a piece that i actually like, but i simply dont know what to coment.... this guiede will probably solve that problem thank you very much!

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DarkGearSuperSpammer [2008-09-23 13:52:12 +0000 UTC]

Well, I totally agree with the guide (In fact, it's a guide of truth and win D , I always try to leave an constructive comment because of the walls of comments saying "omg this is awesome good work" . I must say it's rather annoying.

Besides, bassicly when you talk by yourself, being honest, the reciever replies you, and in the end, you both learn...something (Ok i know, filler <_<

Anyway, great job. It's very useful, to me, and to another kind of person .(<__< well this is supossed to be a good comment...but i fail doing this kind of things, my english is rather poor XD)

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Artemisfire In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 13:43:52 +0000 UTC]

I think you have a very important point here, too many people just don't take the time to actually look at someones work and offer valid comments. The introduction of the acronym TEA was a nice touch.
However i would have liked there to be some part of the guide that covered comments on literary pieces.
overall nice work ^^

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