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Description Deviant Guide: Good Comments

Since deviantART was first born on August 7th 2000, comments have always retained an air of mystery. deviantART was one of the first dedicated art communities of its kind, and it inspired a standard that is our duty to uphold today. As a deviant, you can play an important role in helping a fellow artist develop their skills, and helping the community retain a level of quality to be proud of.

And all it takes is a comment.

Why Does It Concern Me?

deviantART has a favorite system that has slowly diminished the importance of good critique throughout the site, and reduced the level of effort required for feedback to an artist. In communities where such a system does not exist, receiving a comment is an honor that members of deviantART will sadly never experience the same way members of these other communities will.

However, deviantART has something no other community has: spirit. Like no other community of its kind, deviantART exhibits passion and interest in art that is shown no where else. As such, the importance of maintaining this spirit is foremost. Improving the quality of our comments is one way we can do this.

A truly outstanding comment is always hard to compose, always hard to receive, and always hard to come by. For an artist however, a comment is of the greatest importance. It provides feedback on a deviation that will continue to remain unmatched by that of a favorite. To an artist, a comment is the difference between progression and refinement of ones skills, and continuity of an undeveloped style.

Where Is Critique Appropriate?

The golden rule of critique is always to ask yourself "is it appropriate to this work?" There are many examples of work here on deviantART where it is not necessary to give a massive comment, or where it is impossible to sit and analyze a piece of work for techniques. Make sure you ask yourself that question before you start to comment and save yourself wasted time.

Also make sure you only give critique where it is desired. deviantART has a wonderful system where deviants can select their desired level of critique, and having respect for an artists wishes can save you from a whole depth of trouble.

Consider yourself pre-warned: not everybody appreciates critique, and not everybody will take warmly to your opinion. Just know it's for the benefit of the recipient.

How To Give A Good Comment

A good comment is almost always composed of three important key topics. These are:

Techniques
Effects
Improvements

A good comment will always touch on one or more elements contained in these three areas, and will be highly beneficial to the receiving artist.

A good way to remember these three keep topics is to remember “TEI”, pronounced “tea”. Whenever you view a deviation, think about how you’re going to give them some “tea”.

Techniques

To most deviants, this is the element of commenting that is hardest to perfect and understand, and is often the reason why both givers and receivers of good critique are often confused.

The key step to this part of a comment is to look before you write. It is always tempting as a deviant to jump in and comment right away, but a good comment requires more than just a quick glance at a deviation.

Look at the deviation and ask yourself the following questions, which all refer to techniques the composer has used deliberately:

What are the colors like?
Do the colors blend together, or do they stick out? Is the piece comprised of a small number of colors, or does it utilize many?

How are the elements of the piece arranged? (This is called composition)
Where does your eye first move to? From what angle does the scene appear to be portrayed from? How light or dark is the picture?

How big or small is the subject of the picture?
Is it very far zoomed in or a great distance zoomed out?

Is the picture warped or realistic?
Are there lots of definite shapes in the piece, or is it very indefinite (often a technique of surreal or abstract art)?

What sort of focus does the piece use?
Does the composer use intricate detail, or is the picture very blurry? Does the shot highlight a small part of the scene, or does it capture a vast area?

Does the deviation contain textures?
If you were to touch the texture, how would it feel? Rough? Soft? Sandy?

These are six questions you should ask yourself every time you look at a deviation. Make sure you take an appropriate amount of time to inspect the piece for these techniques.

Effects

This part of a comment is perhaps the easiest, and surely the most practiced part of commenting around the deviantART community.

Describing the effects of the techniques upon you is as easy as saying how the piece makes you feel as the viewer.

There is nothing hard about listing your emotions. However there are some questions you can use to make sure what you are saying is relevant:

How does the piece make you feel?
Does it make you feel happy or sad? Does it make you want to cry or burst out laughing?

Does the piece remind you of something?
Does anything in the scene remind you of something from your childhood? Do the objects look similar to something you’ve seen somewhere before?

What do you like about the picture?
Is there a color that you like? Do you like how the piece is arranged? (Refer to the techniques you’ve already listed)

Make sure your passionate about what you write in this part. If the piece does not make you happy, try not to come across too nasty or unappreciative.

Improvements

This is where the comment can get personal and often get a deviant off side with you. It is important to remember that a deviant spent their time making this piece. However tempting it is to be nasty, don’t ever just write that you “hate the piece” or “dislike it” without having some evidence to back it up.

The purpose of providing the techniques and effects in parts one and two of the comment is to provide this evidence, and if done correctly, it should accurately reflect you attitude to this part of the comment. If it doesn’t, go back and rethink the questions we asked ourselves earlier on.

Offering improvements to a deviant is often going to end up with a sad receiver. Everybody adapts to their own style after a while, and it often hurts to be told that it’s not that great. On the same token, offering improvements to a deviant can be the greatest gift you can ever give.

Here are two questions to ask yourself while giving improvements:

What would make this piece even better?
Always refer to the techniques you used in part one. This will make your comment sound much more professional, and come across as helpful rather than forceful. Find techniques that you think could have been done better, and if possible, post links to another deviation that examples what you’re referring to. This can be inspiring to the deviant and give them a great example to bounce ideas off.

Why do I think you’re a good artist and why do I like your work?
All this time we’ve been professional and offering tips and examples. This is the part where you get to give some real praise. Leaving a comment ending with just improvements would leave the artist feeling down. A kind word never goes astray, so tell them why you liked their work, and why you think they deserve your help! Don’t shy up, nothing will make a deviant happier to hear how much you appreciate their input to the community!

Favorite?
Of course, it’s well within your rights to offer a favorite, so don’t be afraid to tell them they deserve it if you decide to give one! Make sure you really think it deserves a favorite though. If everybody favorites it, it’s not going to mean much to a deviant after a while.

Whats ddi yuo jst tyep?
Never forget to revise what you've written! The best comments are not only honest and well written, but they actually make sense!

Spelling and grammar may not be your thing, but you can at least do the deviant the favor of making it legible. They'll love you even more.

Length

Many deviants are unsure of how long a comment should be. But it’s really simple: how much do you need to write?

Just because a comment is short, doesn’t mean it’s not a good comment, and vice versa for a long comment. Length means nothing. It’s the content that counts.

Is That It Already?

You better believe it! Making good comments is really that easy! Just follow the steps provided, and you’re on your way to making comments that everybody is going to love you for.

Remember one important thing though: always be yourself. No matter what formula you use, nothing means more to an artist to receive an honest comment from somebody who shows that they care about what a piece means to them.

Happy commenting everybody!

Nathan (~kle0012 ) and Kitty (~kittysyellowjacket )
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Comments: 780

bringbackart In reply to ??? [2008-09-24 14:02:28 +0000 UTC]


And we're glad you like it! Thank you for your support.

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shadowfan13 In reply to bringbackart [2008-09-24 16:28:49 +0000 UTC]

No problem!

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GwenavhyeurAnastasia In reply to ??? [2008-09-24 00:27:02 +0000 UTC]

I know I'm not the first to say it, but this was extremely helpful. I've always done better remembering acronyms, so the 'tea' part was a nice thought. Thanks for sharing this, it was very much deserving of a DD.

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runningstreem In reply to ??? [2008-09-24 00:13:03 +0000 UTC]

I am very glad you took the time to make this. I think this will be very helpful to many people, including my self.

Also, "Is that it already?" XD very nice touch.

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thecheshireguy In reply to ??? [2008-09-24 00:08:21 +0000 UTC]

Very useful tutorial, and I´m one of these that favorites and don´t comment... It´s because I don´t have time to comment and I end doing so..... So sorry by it, but when I find time, I´ll comment on these works...

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NightingaleRB [2008-09-23 23:53:23 +0000 UTC]

The best part of this is the "ask yourself the following questions" bit; while I do try to give good critique, the main reason I wouldn't is not knowing what to say or where to start. Good job, and congrats on the DD.

Make sure you're passionate about what you write
Only error I spotted.

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metro In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 23:48:20 +0000 UTC]

I've been here since 2001 and have seen this website transform and mold into what it is today. I am guilty of adding something as a favorite without offering critique or a comment.

It's so easy to fav and move on with all of the art that is posted here and I myself love all forms of critique on what I do, so it's good to read something like this to refresh the spirits a bit.

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Impish-insanity [2008-09-23 23:46:12 +0000 UTC]

I must say this is going to help alot of people make good and mature comments on art. It sure helped me already.

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GenkiGoth In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 23:16:49 +0000 UTC]

this is a great idea! It doesn't take much to make a comment that has more substance than just "cool". Faving is great, but taking the time to actually comment is so much better!

I'm definitely going to read this again in more detail. Thanks for putting this up!

Genki

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Jynxpixie In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 23:12:05 +0000 UTC]

I can't help but be self-conscious on commenting on something that tells you how to give a good comment XD But this is actually really helpful without being complicated. Kudos to you!

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OxideAlloy In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 22:30:46 +0000 UTC]

Thank you.

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bringbackart In reply to OxideAlloy [2008-09-24 14:03:03 +0000 UTC]


You're welcome.

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mlsterben In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 22:29:15 +0000 UTC]

Center alignments do not create a well aligned document. Choose flush left or right for a more stylistic, refined look.


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bringbackart In reply to mlsterben [2008-09-24 14:03:57 +0000 UTC]


Excuse me?

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Otacon144 In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 22:26:37 +0000 UTC]

Oh, BOOYAH! I liked this BEFORE it was DD'd!

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NekoXandu In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 22:21:07 +0000 UTC]

Great Post! The next one should be "Deviant Guide: Good Deviation Descriptions" I am growing quite tired of the infamous "..." when I would like to know more about the photograph/artwork

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oddbydefault In reply to NekoXandu [2008-09-23 23:17:34 +0000 UTC]

i third that!

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Hunter-Wolf In reply to NekoXandu [2008-09-23 22:40:49 +0000 UTC]

I second that ^_^

Bring on the "Deviant Guide: Good Deviation Descriptions"

I feel frustrated whenever i see the infamous three dots of nothingness "..." !!!!

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fademode In reply to NekoXandu [2008-09-23 22:27:42 +0000 UTC]

Me too!!!!

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loopylass14uk In reply to fademode [2008-09-23 23:33:20 +0000 UTC]

Me too lol, yeah but seriously, I love reading the artists description and it's so disappointing when you scroll down just to find ...

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metalgearhead123 In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 22:19:38 +0000 UTC]

BOOOO!

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bringbackart In reply to metalgearhead123 [2008-09-24 14:04:16 +0000 UTC]


...?

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metalgearhead123 In reply to bringbackart [2008-09-24 23:30:29 +0000 UTC]

I will take this into consideration only if I feel something is an ass blastingly amasing piece of work but If I just like it then I will stick to my regular method

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ladydolphin-ak [2008-09-23 22:18:35 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for putting the time and effort into this commentary on comments. It is much appreciated.

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Great-Prince-Laharl [2008-09-23 22:12:07 +0000 UTC]

Ah this guide is great! I mean, I don't get comments often, but sometimes, I wish I could always leave better comments for people. So this guide was a huge help!

But, most of the time, I can't find out where they would have messed up at. I have a very untrained eye and mind when it comes to art, thus why I am a beginner. So it tends to be very difficult for me to be able to give criticism D:

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becbecmuffin [2008-09-23 22:01:33 +0000 UTC]

wonderful...but the questions don't touch on any literature deviations.

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metalgearhead123 In reply to becbecmuffin [2008-09-23 22:39:52 +0000 UTC]

thats because nobody cares abot them!

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becbecmuffin In reply to metalgearhead123 [2008-09-23 22:49:19 +0000 UTC]

-_-; thanks. That really makes a poet feel good.

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metalgearhead123 In reply to becbecmuffin [2008-09-23 22:54:37 +0000 UTC]

Face it its pretty much true here.

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becbecmuffin In reply to metalgearhead123 [2008-09-23 22:56:30 +0000 UTC]

Just because most people are too lazy read anymore, doesn't mean nobody cares about literature.

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Jynxpixie In reply to becbecmuffin [2008-09-23 23:10:55 +0000 UTC]

I second that. I'm not much of a writer yet, but reading...

Yay, another Seth fan

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becbecmuffin In reply to Jynxpixie [2008-09-23 23:12:41 +0000 UTC]



lol

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metalgearhead123 In reply to becbecmuffin [2008-09-23 23:00:51 +0000 UTC]

Fine everybody cares! And your important! and beautiful!
jk yeah your right

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becbecmuffin In reply to metalgearhead123 [2008-09-23 23:02:29 +0000 UTC]

*sigh* I'm sorry. I'm probably coming off a bit mean. not having the best day.

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metalgearhead123 In reply to becbecmuffin [2008-09-23 23:05:25 +0000 UTC]

happens... well I gatta go do the dishes and make a cheesse burger! have fun writing!

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SpenserG89 In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 21:43:47 +0000 UTC]

thank you--people need to comment more around here, especially useful comments!

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ModNight In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 21:33:18 +0000 UTC]

Hell, this is really constructive! not only in the commenting sense, but in the other side too... it can also be taken as a guide to oneself's good taste and influences

And, sorry if my attempt to comment does not follow all of the adviced instructions, but, hell it deserves a fave

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cybergranny In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 21:21:14 +0000 UTC]

Should I comment

Very good tutorial
The techniques part is very interesting and helpful.
Even for old deviants ^^

Same goes for the improvement part.
For me advises on how to improve or what could be improve are really necessary when you give critics otherwise it can be felt as a bit rude.

And congrats for the DD

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Arkveveen In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 21:07:40 +0000 UTC]

Excellent guide indeed! I always stress for people to comment on my art, including the people within the circle of interests I am in. But all they rather do is favorite and run... I don't get any commissions as it is; so comments is the only encouragement I get, and I get barely any comments.

But of course, it makes sense; since DeviantArt is the way it is, my artwork is essentially taboo and can cause "normal" people's eyes to be burned out.

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MissSkizofrenia In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 21:07:11 +0000 UTC]

Yes, it is common on DA to get faves without any real comment to go with them, if I get a fave I would like to know why and what the person liked about my picture, so that i can improve myself. Constructive criticism is extremely helpful and still very, very rare. People probably think that they are going to be hurting the artist's feelings and write a oh-so-very-kind comment that they dont really mean.
I found this guide SO helpful and just realized that my comments are never all that informative. But i NEVER, EVER fave without a comment XD

Good jooob!
Spread the word! TEA for everyone

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totallyunmotivated In reply to ??? [2008-09-23 21:03:28 +0000 UTC]

Very informative. I'm going to use this more often in the future.

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bringbackart In reply to totallyunmotivated [2008-09-24 14:05:23 +0000 UTC]


We're so glad we could help you out! Keep up the spirit!

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totallyunmotivated In reply to bringbackart [2008-09-25 00:16:14 +0000 UTC]

Oh yeah!

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Asraniel [2008-09-23 20:48:17 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for posting this. ^_^ Critiques weren't the only thing needed addressing on dA.

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SlimeKingK [2008-09-23 20:45:37 +0000 UTC]

There are a lot of deviants who need something like this. ^_^ Thank you for this excellent reference!

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blasianonna [2008-09-23 20:40:23 +0000 UTC]

This is a great guide. I hope more people will see it so they know how to place comments on other's deviations as well. Thank you very much for making this guide!

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Chikiya [2008-09-23 20:35:17 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for this, I always find it hard to know what to write when I want to be helpful, or even when I just think something's really good. Now here is the test, and I'm writing a comment on this comment-guide piece!

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jeffehunter [2008-09-23 20:21:59 +0000 UTC]

A very good read...and I agree; as I am just starting out with graphic design, one of the most valuable things to me personally is feedback, even if it is negative...might make me feel bad a bit, but will help me grow, and I take that to be important.

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stormygate [2008-09-23 20:20:28 +0000 UTC]

Thank you thank you thank you thank you

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bringbackart In reply to stormygate [2008-09-24 12:54:51 +0000 UTC]


You're welcome, you're welcome and.. you're welcome!

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