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Deviant Guide: Good CommentsSince deviantART was first born on August 7th 2000, comments have always retained an air of mystery. deviantART was one of the first dedicated art communities of its kind, and it inspired a standard that is our duty to uphold today. As a deviant, you can play an important role in helping a fellow artist develop their skills, and helping the community retain a level of quality to be proud of.
And all it takes is a comment.
Why Does It Concern Me?
deviantART has a favorite system that has slowly diminished the importance of good critique throughout the site, and reduced the level of effort required for feedback to an artist. In communities where such a system does not exist, receiving a comment is an honor that members of deviantART will sadly never experience the same way members of these other communities will.
However, deviantART has something no other community has: spirit. Like no other community of its kind, deviantART exhibits passion and interest in art that is shown no where else. As such, the importance of maintaining this spirit is foremost. Improving the quality of our comments is one way we can do this.
A truly outstanding comment is always hard to compose, always hard to receive, and always hard to come by. For an artist however, a comment is of the greatest importance. It provides feedback on a deviation that will continue to remain unmatched by that of a favorite. To an artist, a comment is the difference between progression and refinement of ones skills, and continuity of an undeveloped style.
Where Is Critique Appropriate?
The golden rule of critique is always to ask yourself "is it appropriate to this work?" There are many examples of work here on deviantART where it is not necessary to give a massive comment, or where it is impossible to sit and analyze a piece of work for techniques. Make sure you ask yourself that question before you start to comment and save yourself wasted time.
Also make sure you only give critique where it is desired. deviantART has a wonderful system where deviants can select their desired level of critique, and having respect for an artists wishes can save you from a whole depth of trouble.
Consider yourself pre-warned: not everybody appreciates critique, and not everybody will take warmly to your opinion. Just know it's for the benefit of the recipient.
How To Give A Good Comment
A good comment is almost always composed of three important key topics. These are:
Techniques
Effects
Improvements
A good comment will always touch on one or more elements contained in these three areas, and will be highly beneficial to the receiving artist.
A good way to remember these three keep topics is to remember “TEI”, pronounced “tea”. Whenever you view a deviation, think about how you’re going to give them some “tea”.
Techniques
To most deviants, this is the element of commenting that is hardest to perfect and understand, and is often the reason why both givers and receivers of good critique are often confused.
The key step to this part of a comment is to look before you write. It is always tempting as a deviant to jump in and comment right away, but a good comment requires more than just a quick glance at a deviation.
Look at the deviation and ask yourself the following questions, which all refer to techniques the composer has used deliberately:
What are the colors like?
Do the colors blend together, or do they stick out? Is the piece comprised of a small number of colors, or does it utilize many?
How are the elements of the piece arranged? (This is called composition)
Where does your eye first move to? From what angle does the scene appear to be portrayed from? How light or dark is the picture?
How big or small is the subject of the picture?
Is it very far zoomed in or a great distance zoomed out?
Is the picture warped or realistic?
Are there lots of definite shapes in the piece, or is it very indefinite (often a technique of surreal or abstract art)?
What sort of focus does the piece use?
Does the composer use intricate detail, or is the picture very blurry? Does the shot highlight a small part of the scene, or does it capture a vast area?
Does the deviation contain textures?
If you were to touch the texture, how would it feel? Rough? Soft? Sandy?
These are six questions you should ask yourself every time you look at a deviation. Make sure you take an appropriate amount of time to inspect the piece for these techniques.
Effects
This part of a comment is perhaps the easiest, and surely the most practiced part of commenting around the deviantART community.
Describing the effects of the techniques upon you is as easy as saying how the piece makes you feel as the viewer.
There is nothing hard about listing your emotions. However there are some questions you can use to make sure what you are saying is relevant:
How does the piece make you feel?
Does it make you feel happy or sad? Does it make you want to cry or burst out laughing?
Does the piece remind you of something?
Does anything in the scene remind you of something from your childhood? Do the objects look similar to something you’ve seen somewhere before?
What do you like about the picture?
Is there a color that you like? Do you like how the piece is arranged? (Refer to the techniques you’ve already listed)
Make sure your passionate about what you write in this part. If the piece does not make you happy, try not to come across too nasty or unappreciative.
Improvements
This is where the comment can get personal and often get a deviant off side with you. It is important to remember that a deviant spent their time making this piece. However tempting it is to be nasty, don’t ever just write that you “hate the piece” or “dislike it” without having some evidence to back it up.
The purpose of providing the techniques and effects in parts one and two of the comment is to provide this evidence, and if done correctly, it should accurately reflect you attitude to this part of the comment. If it doesn’t, go back and rethink the questions we asked ourselves earlier on.
Offering improvements to a deviant is often going to end up with a sad receiver. Everybody adapts to their own style after a while, and it often hurts to be told that it’s not that great. On the same token, offering improvements to a deviant can be the greatest gift you can ever give.
Here are two questions to ask yourself while giving improvements:
What would make this piece even better?
Always refer to the techniques you used in part one. This will make your comment sound much more professional, and come across as helpful rather than forceful. Find techniques that you think could have been done better, and if possible, post links to another deviation that examples what you’re referring to. This can be inspiring to the deviant and give them a great example to bounce ideas off.
Why do I think you’re a good artist and why do I like your work?
All this time we’ve been professional and offering tips and examples. This is the part where you get to give some real praise. Leaving a comment ending with just improvements would leave the artist feeling down. A kind word never goes astray, so tell them why you liked their work, and why you think they deserve your help! Don’t shy up, nothing will make a deviant happier to hear how much you appreciate their input to the community!
Favorite?
Of course, it’s well within your rights to offer a favorite, so don’t be afraid to tell them they deserve it if you decide to give one! Make sure you really think it deserves a favorite though. If everybody favorites it, it’s not going to mean much to a deviant after a while.
Whats ddi yuo jst tyep?
Never forget to revise what you've written! The best comments are not only honest and well written, but they actually make sense!
Spelling and grammar may not be your thing, but you can at least do the deviant the favor of making it legible. They'll love you even more.
Length
Many deviants are unsure of how long a comment should be. But it’s really simple: how much do you need to write?
Just because a comment is short, doesn’t mean it’s not a good comment, and vice versa for a long comment. Length means nothing. It’s the content that counts.
Is That It Already?
You better believe it! Making good comments is really that easy! Just follow the steps provided, and you’re on your way to making comments that everybody is going to love you for.
Remember one important thing though: always be yourself. No matter what formula you use, nothing means more to an artist to receive an honest comment from somebody who shows that they care about what a piece means to them.
Happy commenting everybody!
Nathan (~kle0012 ) and Kitty (~kittysyellowjacket )
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GaarafanofLinkinPark [2008-09-24 11:09:52 +0000 UTC]
I really like this guide, it was very helpful for commenting.
Great Job
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beanarts [2008-09-24 10:06:37 +0000 UTC]
Comments are an illusive thing. Sometimes "That's so cool" is lazy and not enough, but sometimes there's nothing more to say than "that's cool". Once would write down all these emotions and feelings for each work they see, but if they did they may often turn into a full time reviewer/writer than an art viewer who wants to leave some quick praise.
I agree with the start about sometimes comments are hard to come by and are an honor to get. Mainly because I see so much work now that I have no time to comment on all, or even a lot. I only have time to comment on the very best of what I like, and then usually I only stick to what I like because usually, If I like it, I don't think there's need for improvement and simply enjoying the piece is all that is needed.
However this will definitely help some out and obviously has helped out a lot already in structuring worth while comments.
Personally I appreciate and love all comments, no matter how long or short they are. If someone even bothered to leave me a quick note of praise with "that's so cool" it's better than no comments at all
A very interesting, insightful read though, and perhaps one that more commenters on deviantart should be reading (hence why I assume it has now been given a daily deviant)
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Remm In reply to ??? [2008-09-24 08:37:34 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for this! I'm sure a lot of us are in need of a guide like this.
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SiouxPernova In reply to ??? [2008-09-24 06:58:38 +0000 UTC]
Much better than just a "Wow. I like it." Although I rarely see people leave comments anymore; most are collections or favs. Or maybe it's just me?
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xandrei [2008-09-24 05:57:19 +0000 UTC]
So very helpful! I hope more and more people will see this and take it into account next time they're looking at deviations :"D
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Spyroflamesredsbum In reply to ??? [2008-09-24 05:40:50 +0000 UTC]
WOOOOOOOOOO~!
THIS IS REALLY NICE
YAYZ now everyone shall know how to comment betterz
YAYERZ
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VentAnger In reply to ??? [2008-09-24 04:23:23 +0000 UTC]
Here's how you get constructive cricism:
STOP DOING ANIME FANART
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Rubydawg In reply to VentAnger [2008-10-05 12:36:17 +0000 UTC]
you can get constructive criticism on anything, EVEN IF IT'S ANIME FANART
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VentAnger In reply to Rubydawg [2008-10-05 22:06:27 +0000 UTC]
Good job missing my point idiot
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VentAnger In reply to Rubydawg [2008-10-06 07:26:43 +0000 UTC]
Wow, how clever and witty a come back.
My point was that if you're going to make anime fan art, don't expect to receive actual intellectual artistic criticism, because stupid asshat fanboys are the only people who give a shit, and they don't like it for the artistic value, they like it cause they can go "Hey! I know that guy! He's from that anime I like! Woohoo you're great draw more!"
Fan art is not art, it's obsession.
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Rubydawg In reply to VentAnger [2008-10-06 15:08:25 +0000 UTC]
nope, wrong.
fanart is art, anything drawn on paper IS ART
anything drawn with a pencil IS ART
anything that has any form of line IS ART
anything drawn on any sort of program IS ART
anything with colors and shapes IS ART
anything that is drawn with any sort of tool IS ART
anything that is drawn IS ART
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VentAnger In reply to Rubydawg [2008-10-06 15:14:21 +0000 UTC]
I KNOW, YOU GODDAMN IDIOT!
Maybe you're just a little slow upstairs, which on this site is entirely possible, but MY POINT is that the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of trolling fanboys don't SEE fanart in an as unbiased context as they should, because they're so swept up in fan obsession. I'm not saying fanart is not art, you dumbass, I'm saying that it isn't TREATED in the same way as art.
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Rubydawg In reply to VentAnger [2008-10-06 15:16:33 +0000 UTC]
well in the previous comment
you said "FANART IS NOT ART, IT'S OBSESSION"
yes, also i am not slow nor an idiot...
also, quit complaining, nobody cares; people will draw what they want ^____^
kthxbai
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VentAnger In reply to Rubydawg [2008-10-06 16:29:20 +0000 UTC]
Yes, people WILL draw what they want, but if all you draw is fan art, you can't expect the same level of constructive criticism as the person who draws original pieces, which is what THIS ENTIRE GUIDE IS REQUESTING.
I'm TELLING YOU the reason that fanart typically lacks constructive criticism, but go ahead, ignore me, you obviously don't give a shit about logic.
And as for all the rest of the kids on this site, yea, go right ahead and draw nothing but fanart, originality is dead anyways.
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Rubydawg In reply to VentAnger [2008-10-06 18:10:38 +0000 UTC]
people can draw fanart if they want too!
your stupid words won't change anything.
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VentAnger In reply to Rubydawg [2008-10-06 19:45:36 +0000 UTC]
My stupid words won't change anything... well yes. For once, you're right.
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Rubydawg In reply to VentAnger [2008-10-06 19:47:03 +0000 UTC]
and for once, you are right ^___^
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lovemedonthurtme In reply to ??? [2008-09-24 04:05:26 +0000 UTC]
wow this everything i needed and wanted to know without even knowing it too many a time have i just looked at/read a peace by another deviant and thought "this is great but what in the world do i say?" this is very helpful and i am so very glad you made it but might i sugest that some of the things under techniques say sumthing about writen deviations. just a thought thanks much ^.^
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IchigoKurimu In reply to ??? [2008-09-24 04:00:21 +0000 UTC]
Nice work, I hope lots of people will read this, and more people who are watching me comment on my art when they favorite it.
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mudpie-eater [2008-09-24 03:16:48 +0000 UTC]
I would personally like to get better at what I do, and it always makes me happy when someone takes the time to comment or give me a bit of advice. Thanks for this!
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Redmagesalyre [2008-09-24 03:01:51 +0000 UTC]
It took a while to learn how to make good comments, and art history which makes you focus on what and how you can critique. This needed to be said and I can't help but see the stuff that helped me out in my art classes is written here. This is just perfect. I might even feature this in my journal if that's okay. I know a few people here who have asked me about commenting.
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ridiqlum [2008-09-24 02:49:50 +0000 UTC]
This needed to be said...BADLY. I hope people read this and take it seriously, because just like you said...a good constructive comment is hard to come by.
Favs are good, but it gives no insight and no find back. I appreciate both, but I would much prefer a thought out comment.
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psychoxLadyV In reply to ??? [2008-09-24 02:47:46 +0000 UTC]
First of all, congrats on the DD, and, wow, thanks for this, i actually never think on what i say in my comments and sometimes i'm afraid to be honest, or i don't have the perfect words to say if something isn't great to me, or i just say "whatever i talk with he in almost every deviation"
^-^ Thanks for the tutorial, it's a great help to all the Deviant's.
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rurouni26 In reply to ??? [2008-09-24 02:37:26 +0000 UTC]
I really loved and appreciate it... recently I'm getting the feeling of emptyness that are almost taking me out from here -_-' Ppl just watch, never comes and sees the work, only faving it (when they fave -_- ).
Oh well, impressive work and glad someone could make it =/
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sammyrose [2008-09-24 02:32:29 +0000 UTC]
Wow. To be honest, I never really knew how to leave a decent comment, so this REALLY helps. Thankyou so much!
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bringbackart In reply to sammyrose [2008-09-24 14:00:17 +0000 UTC]
Glad it could help you out, thank you for your support! [:
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MaryCapaldi In reply to ??? [2008-09-24 02:21:18 +0000 UTC]
This is just what deviantART has needed for a long time concerning how to comment efficiently! I think I'll link to this in my Artists Resources journal.
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HugsLee13 In reply to ??? [2008-09-24 02:18:30 +0000 UTC]
As others have said, this is one of the books of the DA bible, right up there with The Guide to DA Popularity
I hope that many people will take your advice. All of us would greatly appreciate it if deeper comments were left on our art. Here's hoping that you reach the masses.
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Pandemoniumswings In reply to ??? [2008-09-24 02:04:33 +0000 UTC]
Astounding! This is helping me out already! I was always wondering if I was making well constructed comments or just filling up space. Now I can put some real structure into my commenting and.
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Ginnabean In reply to ??? [2008-09-24 01:54:37 +0000 UTC]
This is so amazing. I'm going to feature this in my journal, it's just full of helpful things that -all- artists would like our commenters to see.
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Roonstown In reply to ??? [2008-09-24 01:44:59 +0000 UTC]
If there's one thing I appreciate; it's a critique. Kudos for the short and sharp guide, but I think it should be noted that sketches (and the like) are sometimes exceptions to the rule. you touched on it, but maybe it'd be good to repeat.
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All-Blue In reply to ??? [2008-09-24 01:21:51 +0000 UTC]
You sir, are a genius. (or ma'am xD)
It's always helpful to have good advice such as this!
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bringbackart In reply to All-Blue [2008-09-24 12:53:28 +0000 UTC]
Oh, but we be both! Or maybe we just be genderless? That is really one for you to ponder on.
Thank you for your support all the same. [:
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number1tolkienfan [2008-09-24 01:16:46 +0000 UTC]
Excellent guide! Thanks for taking the time to put it together!
As a rule, I like to give worthwhile comments on the art I view and really like. Unfortunately, many deviants don't bother, often because they aren't sure how. A shame - people often appreciate comments more than favs! Hope the DD helps bring this guide to light and CC back to dA!
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Metal-Truncator [2008-09-24 01:08:43 +0000 UTC]
However much you say this...you cannot hope to touch the masses on DeviantArt who either don't leave a comment at all or just make some inane and insultingly trivial statement on someone's work. Scan, for example, one of the most popular works and see how many pointless "ROFL!111" or "XDXDXD!!!" you get.
The more people tug and try to make this a haven of art, the more others will trivialize their efforts. I feel your frustration and I support it - but it's a double-edged sword; DeviantArt is ever growing and as such it will be grappled by the majority...who happen to be morons
whoops.
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zananeichan [2008-09-24 01:04:44 +0000 UTC]
Great stuff, short 'n sweet ((^_^)) and people need to be warm and loving in comments
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Vypor [2008-09-24 00:53:10 +0000 UTC]
This is very true. Sadly true to be exact.
I've seen so many comments from people, and I'm like, "What in the world did you just say?"
I try to use correct grammar and punctuation whenever I comment.
Not to mention the emoticons!
I believe it's high time somebody posted something like this.
Way to go!
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abweichende [2008-09-24 00:52:05 +0000 UTC]
I love recieving comments like the ones you are telling us how to form, but they are few and very far between. Hopefully with this helpful guide, there will be more popping up all around dA! Thank you for writing this, and congratulations on the DD!
I'm definitely adding this to my favorites.
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austheke [2008-09-24 00:35:12 +0000 UTC]
...I feel like I should use this tutorial to leave an in-depth comment here...
But you're right; good comments are hard to write and take, and sadly, hard to find. Very clear, insightful tutorial you've got here. Every deviant should read this. Well done! Congrats on the DD.
And yes, I'm faving this.
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shadowfan13 [2008-09-24 00:28:06 +0000 UTC]
I am so glad you put the effort into making this.
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