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Deviant Guide: Good CommentsSince deviantART was first born on August 7th 2000, comments have always retained an air of mystery. deviantART was one of the first dedicated art communities of its kind, and it inspired a standard that is our duty to uphold today. As a deviant, you can play an important role in helping a fellow artist develop their skills, and helping the community retain a level of quality to be proud of.
And all it takes is a comment.
Why Does It Concern Me?
deviantART has a favorite system that has slowly diminished the importance of good critique throughout the site, and reduced the level of effort required for feedback to an artist. In communities where such a system does not exist, receiving a comment is an honor that members of deviantART will sadly never experience the same way members of these other communities will.
However, deviantART has something no other community has: spirit. Like no other community of its kind, deviantART exhibits passion and interest in art that is shown no where else. As such, the importance of maintaining this spirit is foremost. Improving the quality of our comments is one way we can do this.
A truly outstanding comment is always hard to compose, always hard to receive, and always hard to come by. For an artist however, a comment is of the greatest importance. It provides feedback on a deviation that will continue to remain unmatched by that of a favorite. To an artist, a comment is the difference between progression and refinement of ones skills, and continuity of an undeveloped style.
Where Is Critique Appropriate?
The golden rule of critique is always to ask yourself "is it appropriate to this work?" There are many examples of work here on deviantART where it is not necessary to give a massive comment, or where it is impossible to sit and analyze a piece of work for techniques. Make sure you ask yourself that question before you start to comment and save yourself wasted time.
Also make sure you only give critique where it is desired. deviantART has a wonderful system where deviants can select their desired level of critique, and having respect for an artists wishes can save you from a whole depth of trouble.
Consider yourself pre-warned: not everybody appreciates critique, and not everybody will take warmly to your opinion. Just know it's for the benefit of the recipient.
How To Give A Good Comment
A good comment is almost always composed of three important key topics. These are:
Techniques
Effects
Improvements
A good comment will always touch on one or more elements contained in these three areas, and will be highly beneficial to the receiving artist.
A good way to remember these three keep topics is to remember “TEI”, pronounced “tea”. Whenever you view a deviation, think about how you’re going to give them some “tea”.
Techniques
To most deviants, this is the element of commenting that is hardest to perfect and understand, and is often the reason why both givers and receivers of good critique are often confused.
The key step to this part of a comment is to look before you write. It is always tempting as a deviant to jump in and comment right away, but a good comment requires more than just a quick glance at a deviation.
Look at the deviation and ask yourself the following questions, which all refer to techniques the composer has used deliberately:
What are the colors like?
Do the colors blend together, or do they stick out? Is the piece comprised of a small number of colors, or does it utilize many?
How are the elements of the piece arranged? (This is called composition)
Where does your eye first move to? From what angle does the scene appear to be portrayed from? How light or dark is the picture?
How big or small is the subject of the picture?
Is it very far zoomed in or a great distance zoomed out?
Is the picture warped or realistic?
Are there lots of definite shapes in the piece, or is it very indefinite (often a technique of surreal or abstract art)?
What sort of focus does the piece use?
Does the composer use intricate detail, or is the picture very blurry? Does the shot highlight a small part of the scene, or does it capture a vast area?
Does the deviation contain textures?
If you were to touch the texture, how would it feel? Rough? Soft? Sandy?
These are six questions you should ask yourself every time you look at a deviation. Make sure you take an appropriate amount of time to inspect the piece for these techniques.
Effects
This part of a comment is perhaps the easiest, and surely the most practiced part of commenting around the deviantART community.
Describing the effects of the techniques upon you is as easy as saying how the piece makes you feel as the viewer.
There is nothing hard about listing your emotions. However there are some questions you can use to make sure what you are saying is relevant:
How does the piece make you feel?
Does it make you feel happy or sad? Does it make you want to cry or burst out laughing?
Does the piece remind you of something?
Does anything in the scene remind you of something from your childhood? Do the objects look similar to something you’ve seen somewhere before?
What do you like about the picture?
Is there a color that you like? Do you like how the piece is arranged? (Refer to the techniques you’ve already listed)
Make sure your passionate about what you write in this part. If the piece does not make you happy, try not to come across too nasty or unappreciative.
Improvements
This is where the comment can get personal and often get a deviant off side with you. It is important to remember that a deviant spent their time making this piece. However tempting it is to be nasty, don’t ever just write that you “hate the piece” or “dislike it” without having some evidence to back it up.
The purpose of providing the techniques and effects in parts one and two of the comment is to provide this evidence, and if done correctly, it should accurately reflect you attitude to this part of the comment. If it doesn’t, go back and rethink the questions we asked ourselves earlier on.
Offering improvements to a deviant is often going to end up with a sad receiver. Everybody adapts to their own style after a while, and it often hurts to be told that it’s not that great. On the same token, offering improvements to a deviant can be the greatest gift you can ever give.
Here are two questions to ask yourself while giving improvements:
What would make this piece even better?
Always refer to the techniques you used in part one. This will make your comment sound much more professional, and come across as helpful rather than forceful. Find techniques that you think could have been done better, and if possible, post links to another deviation that examples what you’re referring to. This can be inspiring to the deviant and give them a great example to bounce ideas off.
Why do I think you’re a good artist and why do I like your work?
All this time we’ve been professional and offering tips and examples. This is the part where you get to give some real praise. Leaving a comment ending with just improvements would leave the artist feeling down. A kind word never goes astray, so tell them why you liked their work, and why you think they deserve your help! Don’t shy up, nothing will make a deviant happier to hear how much you appreciate their input to the community!
Favorite?
Of course, it’s well within your rights to offer a favorite, so don’t be afraid to tell them they deserve it if you decide to give one! Make sure you really think it deserves a favorite though. If everybody favorites it, it’s not going to mean much to a deviant after a while.
Whats ddi yuo jst tyep?
Never forget to revise what you've written! The best comments are not only honest and well written, but they actually make sense!
Spelling and grammar may not be your thing, but you can at least do the deviant the favor of making it legible. They'll love you even more.
Length
Many deviants are unsure of how long a comment should be. But it’s really simple: how much do you need to write?
Just because a comment is short, doesn’t mean it’s not a good comment, and vice versa for a long comment. Length means nothing. It’s the content that counts.
Is That It Already?
You better believe it! Making good comments is really that easy! Just follow the steps provided, and you’re on your way to making comments that everybody is going to love you for.
Remember one important thing though: always be yourself. No matter what formula you use, nothing means more to an artist to receive an honest comment from somebody who shows that they care about what a piece means to them.
Happy commenting everybody!
Nathan (~kle0012 ) and Kitty (~kittysyellowjacket )
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Comments: 780
mikeengelen [2009-02-22 20:12:25 +0000 UTC]
This is such a good guide, it covers the most important matters to see in a work.
Although, there are some aspects I would just like to share and add, and that I personally try to take also into account when I make a comment:
What the artist intends to do, and if he or she is succeeding.
1) How much is the piece working for what the artist wanted to do. (And for trying to have a basis on knowing that, It's best to take a gooood deep look at the piece itself, and also look at their other works, journals, and even some posts to have a general, psychological, view on their endeavour and what they go for)
- Then, does the piece by itself go for X or Y thing? or Z feeling?... (also, when determining that, try to take into account your personal subjectuve perception, but also one's knowledge and capacity for objectivity)
- Did the person wanted to achieve X, Y, Z, or another thing?, (Of course, a gentle, kind honest request for knowing would be "mhhh, overall this seems like a dreamy, dark barroque mood, am I right? " )
- Given that supposition, or actual answer, then go on with proper analysis, as hinting details, not an actual "fix that!!!" comment, so the artist will try to analyze by him or herself what was missing or could have worked better. (for example "You made the colors for proper intensity of light, but if you wanted to get that body position even more accurate, a bit more of actual perspective work would do better. Try also studing how the hip bones look from that position. It helps a lot")
Why do I point to the "will try to analyze by him or herself" aspect?
Because it's also necessary for an artist to develop self critique and self determination of a given piece of art, to excercise capacity of knowing better, to be able to recognize mishaps by him or herself, and that will as well help him or her to be more succesful in their art enterprise.
And if the case is that there's something that actually needs much more attention, it's nicer to be honest and say it ("But, I think, the sky is not properly rendered, since those clouds are very sketchy"
And of course, not picking into things that are more likely to be product of a random distraction, or fatigue, such as a finger not well drawn, or a color stroke going out of the object containing it.
2) Another thing is to try to have a bit of sensitivity and empathy. If a piece of art, even if is improved from previous works, but still doesn't meet certain quality, one shouldn't go on too much analysis. These kind of pieces have a special meaning for the artist, and so in those pieces, some hopes and a positive feelings of achievement and advance is embodied. So by being too analytic on those, one could actually break someone's heart, wich would be counterproductive.
In the other extreme, if an artist is very strict to his or her work, or expects a lot of it, a new achievement sometimes is expected not just to be praised, but to be analyzed by others. Sometimes, an artist pushes over his or her limits, making quantum leaps, and can get a bit paranoic of having mistakes in areas he or she has worked hard. Hence, they might put it on display for comments, in hope someone catches a detail they may have missed.
Well, these are only my observations.
I hope they are useful.
Keep on and up with your great project, and let's all of us join in a big shout "Bring Back The Art!!"
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EmeyTroi [2009-02-17 03:28:47 +0000 UTC]
Wow, this has nice insight.
I've always been wondering where I've been going wrong on commenting, what I'm supposed to comment on, what I'm not, how I should comment....... ect cetera.
This narrows it down a little bit, at least and makes me feel less like an idiot. ^^"
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LightOrangeFur In reply to ??? [2009-02-15 20:31:29 +0000 UTC]
wow, this really IS useful! I'm going to use this alot now.
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zombignon [2009-02-15 02:53:45 +0000 UTC]
I've seen other tutorials about comments and critiques, but this one stands out thanks to its 'Effects' section. It's very helpful to someone like me— I want to leave comments on every Deviation I add to my Favorites, but I don't know enough technical stuff to leave a real critique. I feel like it assures me (and those like me) that pure critiques are not the only valid comments to be made.
Thank you for writing this tutorial.
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wizkyuu In reply to ??? [2009-02-12 17:38:25 +0000 UTC]
wow very informative and useful thanks for making it!
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Nitidus In reply to ??? [2009-02-07 19:33:37 +0000 UTC]
thanks for this guide, with the tips, I'll be able to give better critiques and be of more help to other artists
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shatteredawe [2009-02-07 17:46:24 +0000 UTC]
I think it's great that you made this guide. It really helps to have an outline on how to create elaborate comments
Thank you so much! I'll try to make my comments on other people's artwork like that.
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Liesjuh In reply to ??? [2009-02-06 22:00:03 +0000 UTC]
Technique:
hmm yes, typo. Good way to convey your message. Very understandable xD
Effect: Yeah!! Makes me wanna comment
Improvements: Uhm, no, not really
Since you already have so much faves I shouldnt fave it thus, but this needs to be spread.
Hah, it already payed of to read it, now lets get the comments going...
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EmoZetsuGirl57 In reply to ??? [2009-02-01 19:27:38 +0000 UTC]
That's a really nice guide! I'll be sure to put it to good use when I comment on others artwork!
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NueNagi In reply to ??? [2009-02-01 08:12:15 +0000 UTC]
A wonderful idea; I'll certainly try to put it into practice ^^
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Yutaka-kun [2009-01-25 01:00:14 +0000 UTC]
Um... this is great and all, but the population is still doing some fairly constructive commenting...
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xluckystarx In reply to ??? [2009-01-19 15:54:28 +0000 UTC]
you have helped me alot to think about how a comment is constructed, thank you!
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SDouville [2009-01-13 22:55:29 +0000 UTC]
Oh my I will never comment the same way. I might say everyone should read that.
And thank you!
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SamannaDemo-cide [2009-01-13 08:05:34 +0000 UTC]
Excellent guide; I agree with everything you've said here. What I've always wanted from deviantART is to find a group of watchers that will give me constructive critique and, in return, they shall recieve the same from me. Kind of like a group of mutual loyalists. Still searching though.
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hauntingmewithsmiles In reply to SamannaDemo-cide [2009-02-15 07:37:03 +0000 UTC]
I'm actually almost positive that that exists...if I could only remember the name! I feel like it's called *GimmeFeedback , and there are a few others...hmn. There's this one that enforces something about x amount of comments per day with critique...and my memory's horrid *sigh*.
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MaryAnnBubna [2009-01-07 03:30:55 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for writing this . Very helpful to point people here, and it should be considered a "must read" for new deviants. You put it just right, so now deviants who don't even know much about the media can still critique it
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MaryAnnBubna In reply to ??? [2009-01-07 03:24:59 +0000 UTC]
Thank you for writing this . Very helpful to point people here, and it should be considered a "must read" for new deviants. You put it just right, so now deviants who don't even know much about the media can still critique it
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Zeldalina In reply to ??? [2009-01-03 21:33:02 +0000 UTC]
Thank you very much for these tips! They are very helpful.
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Furious-Frog [2008-12-17 19:21:45 +0000 UTC]
thanks for the tips, they should be very useful
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RSR-Productions [2008-12-10 07:39:44 +0000 UTC]
Wow, this is really helpful. Sometimes I find a hard time bringing myself to actually critique someone's art, I just kinda say it's good and then run off. I'll probably be checking back to this to make sure I'm doing it right. Thanks a lot for this, I'll try my best to be better commenter.
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lenden [2008-12-07 03:37:16 +0000 UTC]
Faved it so I can come back to it whenever I really feel like writing an in depth comment.
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ADRAWER4EVER [2008-12-02 06:34:44 +0000 UTC]
I love reading these type of "guides",
it's refreshing to know that others care about well thought-out commenting.
This is definitely deserving of the attention it has gotten and I can't help but to add to the pile by adding another , thanks for sharing!
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icielko In reply to ??? [2008-11-29 22:07:52 +0000 UTC]
This guide actually hit me pretty hard. I'm kinda new to DA and lately all I've been doing is going around faving a lot of artworks. Now I feel really bad for not leaving any comments.
It's not that I don't look at those artworks, but sometimes I just don't know what to say. I'm not a pro in art, and I have no right to criticize anyone or tell them how to improve it, because I just don't know a lot about art. All I could do is saying how pretty it is or how much I love it
But I guess I should try to leave better comments from now on. Thanks for the guide.
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LaChicca In reply to ??? [2008-11-23 17:05:21 +0000 UTC]
yes! fantastic guide-- i can't believe how many useless comments i've seen around deviantart that, while flattering, can be annoying or frustrating. i, for one, always like to know what i can do better. hopefully this has inspired some people to go and leave constructive criticism!
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kahl [2008-11-13 16:38:33 +0000 UTC]
Very well written. I know you have hundreds of comments and faves on this, but I've only just come across it and rather than just fave it and, as you said "diminish its importance" of feedback....I can only add how important I think guides like this are for everyone, not just new artists on DA, but those like me, who have been around and can get lazy in our choice to even OFFER a critique unless asked.
This is a very comprehensive tool for the community and thank you for providing it.
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katheb In reply to ??? [2008-11-05 15:21:32 +0000 UTC]
No comment...
just kidding heh
this is a nice helpful reminder of the importance of comments .
GOOD COMMENTS ARE GOLD!
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mandiocaStudio In reply to ??? [2008-11-03 01:26:26 +0000 UTC]
Thanks a LOT, Nathan and Kitty *-*
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addictedcookie In reply to ??? [2008-10-26 12:11:28 +0000 UTC]
How funny.
Yesterday, I created a stamp saying: "I support constructive comments". I created it, because I really wanted to improve the way, people give comments. After being a member of deviantART for nearly a year, I've seen, that it's unbelievable "popular" just to write "Awesome" or "Amazing" and not more. But in my opinion, the comment system on dA isn't created for those types of comments, rather for the things you mentioned: Good critique. And all artists profit more from a comment of a person, who really thought about what he or she writes. With the feedback of other members, everyone is able to improve his skills and to become a better artist as he might already be.
So, I really, really thank you for creating this guide. !
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Moepling [2008-10-18 13:30:28 +0000 UTC]
Hi there,
I've included this in my first ever news feature.
You can see it here: Photography feature
I hope a lot of people take it to heart whats in your tutorial
cheers, Thomas
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Rubydawg In reply to ??? [2008-10-05 12:42:10 +0000 UTC]
ahh thank you for making this! Lately, i have been feeling as if people aren't look at my art; because they are just faving.
Now that the drag and drop thing is included, i highly doubt people take the time to look at what i made... or anybody else.
I like people who actually take the time to give feedback on what they think on the things i/we drew. Sometimes i don't comment, because i don't know what to say. but i always comment when i fave, or just comment!
i think comments make people more happy, because you can actually communicate w/ others! and make more friends <3
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BluHarunoBlssm13 In reply to ??? [2008-10-04 21:31:49 +0000 UTC]
Bravo! This is really very important for every deviant to remember. Especially the spell-/grammar-checking part.
"How many times do I have to see someone use your instead of the *proper* you're?!"
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ankokuketsueki1000 In reply to ??? [2008-10-04 01:39:18 +0000 UTC]
thanks! this really helped! I'll try using this system more often
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irnmaiden07 In reply to ??? [2008-10-03 08:56:21 +0000 UTC]
wow...this is a really useful read...sure deserves the DD! will spread the word thank you for posting it!
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PassionArte In reply to ??? [2008-10-02 02:26:37 +0000 UTC]
Not much on texture or colors, but the effects are absolutely perfect. Makes me want to leave helpful and encouraging comments I will always remember "TEI"
. No improvements needed. A definite
and
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The-Surreality [2008-09-27 04:18:13 +0000 UTC]
Brilliant! A few years ago when I first joined dA, I always thought favs were more important, but then I realized how much more important comments are once I started posting serious work instead of just doodles! I've been dealing with criticism for 7 years now, and I've gotten quite used to it. I've learned how to handle it and take it constructively, not personally. It's tough to do, but once you do that, your work really starts to improve!
I love comments! YAYYY COMMENTS! Huggbees!
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Xaliandrea [2008-09-26 05:17:48 +0000 UTC]
I refuse to leave an insightful comment. It would be-- too ironic. ^^
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Paw07 [2008-09-25 20:59:57 +0000 UTC]
Thank you ever so much for posting this. Now, I will admit that I did take a few art classes a few years back, but the only vocabulary I remembered was tones and lighting effects. So thanks for refreshing me. I will be able to leave a larger variety of comments now.
Furthermore, I'm very glad you put this up. By the number of favorites you have received, it seems that everyone has taken your 'good comment' advice seriously. I understand the want and need for real critiques (sadly, not for my art but writing) and it's nice to know that someone actually takes the time not to just enjoy but understand the piece. Hopefully your ‘good comment’ will get around DA quickly; allowing a larger number of true comments to be left behind.
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chrisxart [2008-09-25 04:24:47 +0000 UTC]
This is great,thanks for taking the time to write and post it,much appreciated,chrisxart
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Ejiputotsuki [2008-09-24 22:08:52 +0000 UTC]
Very nice!
This guide is very helpful.
People need to read this!
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MellowTone450 [2008-09-24 21:38:52 +0000 UTC]
very useful guide; i'll be sure to try and follow it
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RealityInDreams [2008-09-24 12:04:06 +0000 UTC]
Thanks, It makes commenting a lot easier. I have a hard time trying write a good comment, and always get intimidated by those super long comments..
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