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Description Deviant Guide: Good Comments

Since deviantART was first born on August 7th 2000, comments have always retained an air of mystery. deviantART was one of the first dedicated art communities of its kind, and it inspired a standard that is our duty to uphold today. As a deviant, you can play an important role in helping a fellow artist develop their skills, and helping the community retain a level of quality to be proud of.

And all it takes is a comment.

Why Does It Concern Me?

deviantART has a favorite system that has slowly diminished the importance of good critique throughout the site, and reduced the level of effort required for feedback to an artist. In communities where such a system does not exist, receiving a comment is an honor that members of deviantART will sadly never experience the same way members of these other communities will.

However, deviantART has something no other community has: spirit. Like no other community of its kind, deviantART exhibits passion and interest in art that is shown no where else. As such, the importance of maintaining this spirit is foremost. Improving the quality of our comments is one way we can do this.

A truly outstanding comment is always hard to compose, always hard to receive, and always hard to come by. For an artist however, a comment is of the greatest importance. It provides feedback on a deviation that will continue to remain unmatched by that of a favorite. To an artist, a comment is the difference between progression and refinement of ones skills, and continuity of an undeveloped style.

Where Is Critique Appropriate?

The golden rule of critique is always to ask yourself "is it appropriate to this work?" There are many examples of work here on deviantART where it is not necessary to give a massive comment, or where it is impossible to sit and analyze a piece of work for techniques. Make sure you ask yourself that question before you start to comment and save yourself wasted time.

Also make sure you only give critique where it is desired. deviantART has a wonderful system where deviants can select their desired level of critique, and having respect for an artists wishes can save you from a whole depth of trouble.

Consider yourself pre-warned: not everybody appreciates critique, and not everybody will take warmly to your opinion. Just know it's for the benefit of the recipient.

How To Give A Good Comment

A good comment is almost always composed of three important key topics. These are:

Techniques
Effects
Improvements

A good comment will always touch on one or more elements contained in these three areas, and will be highly beneficial to the receiving artist.

A good way to remember these three keep topics is to remember “TEI”, pronounced “tea”. Whenever you view a deviation, think about how you’re going to give them some “tea”.

Techniques

To most deviants, this is the element of commenting that is hardest to perfect and understand, and is often the reason why both givers and receivers of good critique are often confused.

The key step to this part of a comment is to look before you write. It is always tempting as a deviant to jump in and comment right away, but a good comment requires more than just a quick glance at a deviation.

Look at the deviation and ask yourself the following questions, which all refer to techniques the composer has used deliberately:

What are the colors like?
Do the colors blend together, or do they stick out? Is the piece comprised of a small number of colors, or does it utilize many?

How are the elements of the piece arranged? (This is called composition)
Where does your eye first move to? From what angle does the scene appear to be portrayed from? How light or dark is the picture?

How big or small is the subject of the picture?
Is it very far zoomed in or a great distance zoomed out?

Is the picture warped or realistic?
Are there lots of definite shapes in the piece, or is it very indefinite (often a technique of surreal or abstract art)?

What sort of focus does the piece use?
Does the composer use intricate detail, or is the picture very blurry? Does the shot highlight a small part of the scene, or does it capture a vast area?

Does the deviation contain textures?
If you were to touch the texture, how would it feel? Rough? Soft? Sandy?

These are six questions you should ask yourself every time you look at a deviation. Make sure you take an appropriate amount of time to inspect the piece for these techniques.

Effects

This part of a comment is perhaps the easiest, and surely the most practiced part of commenting around the deviantART community.

Describing the effects of the techniques upon you is as easy as saying how the piece makes you feel as the viewer.

There is nothing hard about listing your emotions. However there are some questions you can use to make sure what you are saying is relevant:

How does the piece make you feel?
Does it make you feel happy or sad? Does it make you want to cry or burst out laughing?

Does the piece remind you of something?
Does anything in the scene remind you of something from your childhood? Do the objects look similar to something you’ve seen somewhere before?

What do you like about the picture?
Is there a color that you like? Do you like how the piece is arranged? (Refer to the techniques you’ve already listed)

Make sure your passionate about what you write in this part. If the piece does not make you happy, try not to come across too nasty or unappreciative.

Improvements

This is where the comment can get personal and often get a deviant off side with you. It is important to remember that a deviant spent their time making this piece. However tempting it is to be nasty, don’t ever just write that you “hate the piece” or “dislike it” without having some evidence to back it up.

The purpose of providing the techniques and effects in parts one and two of the comment is to provide this evidence, and if done correctly, it should accurately reflect you attitude to this part of the comment. If it doesn’t, go back and rethink the questions we asked ourselves earlier on.

Offering improvements to a deviant is often going to end up with a sad receiver. Everybody adapts to their own style after a while, and it often hurts to be told that it’s not that great. On the same token, offering improvements to a deviant can be the greatest gift you can ever give.

Here are two questions to ask yourself while giving improvements:

What would make this piece even better?
Always refer to the techniques you used in part one. This will make your comment sound much more professional, and come across as helpful rather than forceful. Find techniques that you think could have been done better, and if possible, post links to another deviation that examples what you’re referring to. This can be inspiring to the deviant and give them a great example to bounce ideas off.

Why do I think you’re a good artist and why do I like your work?
All this time we’ve been professional and offering tips and examples. This is the part where you get to give some real praise. Leaving a comment ending with just improvements would leave the artist feeling down. A kind word never goes astray, so tell them why you liked their work, and why you think they deserve your help! Don’t shy up, nothing will make a deviant happier to hear how much you appreciate their input to the community!

Favorite?
Of course, it’s well within your rights to offer a favorite, so don’t be afraid to tell them they deserve it if you decide to give one! Make sure you really think it deserves a favorite though. If everybody favorites it, it’s not going to mean much to a deviant after a while.

Whats ddi yuo jst tyep?
Never forget to revise what you've written! The best comments are not only honest and well written, but they actually make sense!

Spelling and grammar may not be your thing, but you can at least do the deviant the favor of making it legible. They'll love you even more.

Length

Many deviants are unsure of how long a comment should be. But it’s really simple: how much do you need to write?

Just because a comment is short, doesn’t mean it’s not a good comment, and vice versa for a long comment. Length means nothing. It’s the content that counts.

Is That It Already?

You better believe it! Making good comments is really that easy! Just follow the steps provided, and you’re on your way to making comments that everybody is going to love you for.

Remember one important thing though: always be yourself. No matter what formula you use, nothing means more to an artist to receive an honest comment from somebody who shows that they care about what a piece means to them.

Happy commenting everybody!

Nathan (~kle0012 ) and Kitty (~kittysyellowjacket )
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Comments: 780

bringbackart In reply to ??? [2007-04-21 15:18:54 +0000 UTC]

I'm glad you found it helpful - but as they say "practise makes perfect!"
Thanks for your support mate!

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Viscious-Speed In reply to ??? [2007-04-20 07:36:24 +0000 UTC]

This is very well-written. It is also easy to understand which is definitely great for those of us whose first language isn't English. And the questions & tips that u've shared with us here are most helpful..They will aid many of us here with our comments for sure.

Excellent work & thank u for this! We've been enriched! And this goes into my faves!

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bringbackart In reply to Viscious-Speed [2007-04-25 09:19:21 +0000 UTC]

Glad you liked it! I hope it will be helpful to you and other deviants for a long time to come!

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k-chan In reply to ??? [2007-04-19 03:58:11 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for posting this! I know I don't give good comments as much as I should for a number of excuses I won't waste your time with. But, I'll definitely be referencing this in the future when I comment! It seems very easy to use, and I like that you give questions to go back and look at a piece and review it rather than just "Say what you think about this, this and this."
Once again, thank you for posting this! And I totally agree with what you say about favorites.

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bringbackart In reply to k-chan [2007-04-20 00:15:25 +0000 UTC]

I'm so glad you liked it. I wrote it based on my experience with other guides, and their tenancy to either be too complicated, and dive in way too quickly for my likes, or be over simplified, and just plain boring to read.

I hope this is helpful to you!

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Anjeile In reply to ??? [2007-04-19 03:58:02 +0000 UTC]

I agree with what you have written and I have found it to be a very well thought-out, well-written and extremely helpful guide that covers all the important aspects of commenting. Thank you so much for taking the time and thought to write this guide. I truly appreciate it. ^_^ This definitely deserves a fave. <3

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bringbackart In reply to Anjeile [2007-04-20 00:17:24 +0000 UTC]

Thanks so much for your support and your especially kind words! I'm very glad you enjoyed it, and I trust it will be helpful to you!

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VidPen In reply to ??? [2007-04-19 03:31:48 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for providing a guiding light in commenting. I found it very useful and hope a great many people will read it. for sure

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bringbackart In reply to VidPen [2007-04-20 00:17:56 +0000 UTC]

Thanks so much! Appreciate your support and kind words, I'm really glad you liked it!

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mOOg267 In reply to ??? [2007-04-19 01:58:32 +0000 UTC]

i want your babies! seriously i've been ranting about the favto comment ratios for ever. they're embarassing. i really thought i was alone in saying that i like getting comments more than a fav. so many others say fav means moer but i disagree. a comment show you took time to look at it and concider it a good piece rather than just hit the fav button cuz it looks nice or it's of your fav anime character.

once agian i applaud you! amen

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bringbackart In reply to mOOg267 [2007-04-20 00:19:20 +0000 UTC]

Thanks so much, I'm really glad you found it helpful!

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Riza-Doodle In reply to ??? [2007-04-18 20:39:10 +0000 UTC]

Loooved it!
It really got down all that needs to be put into a comment, and it should really help get some better comments up on dA!

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bringbackart In reply to Riza-Doodle [2007-04-20 00:19:45 +0000 UTC]

Awesome, I hope it helps in inspiring the deviantART community to make the place even better!

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halcyondf In reply to ??? [2007-04-18 19:35:22 +0000 UTC]

i've always believed in something similar except i never bothered to write it out or was of this scope. Thank you for writing this and bring benefits to everyone.

I truly agree and believe in what you have written.

once again, thank you.

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bringbackart In reply to halcyondf [2007-04-20 00:20:37 +0000 UTC]

No, thank you! I appreciate your kind words and your support!

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Yun-Zhen In reply to ??? [2007-04-18 08:23:32 +0000 UTC]

great article. but i usually give quite skimpy comments.

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bringbackart In reply to Yun-Zhen [2007-04-18 10:06:54 +0000 UTC]

It's okay, no matter who you are, there's always a margin of improvement able to be had! Give it a go one day, and watch the difference in reply that you get from deviants who you comment on! It'll make a world of difference!

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Yun-Zhen In reply to bringbackart [2007-04-18 11:34:08 +0000 UTC]

I know how it feels. When people just say that what you did is good. You feel great all day because it was something that you put your heart and soul into

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bringbackart In reply to Yun-Zhen [2007-04-19 10:09:58 +0000 UTC]

Exactly! And for every good comment that you give out, you'll get one back! So get commenting! ^_^

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Gerridwen In reply to ??? [2007-04-18 07:52:40 +0000 UTC]

I'm no master in giving comments, but I really try!
I rarely even fave without commenting.

I think this is something that we all could learn, and therefore I'm going to fave this and feature it in my journal.

thank you for very usefull guideline...

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bringbackart In reply to Gerridwen [2007-04-18 10:07:46 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for reading the article, I appreciate it a lot. I'm glad you found it useful, and I hope you can use it as a guide for a long time to come.

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changinglanes In reply to ??? [2007-04-18 02:38:12 +0000 UTC]

Good comment-givers, drink TEI.

Ok...I'm done. Haha.

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bringbackart In reply to changinglanes [2007-04-18 06:17:40 +0000 UTC]

Hahaha! XD

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changinglanes In reply to ??? [2007-04-18 02:36:47 +0000 UTC]

TEI. The 3 keys to commenting. Just TEI it.

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bringbackart In reply to changinglanes [2007-04-18 06:16:58 +0000 UTC]

Shhhh, peoeple wil think we're giving away free tea! XD

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changinglanes In reply to ??? [2007-04-18 02:33:42 +0000 UTC]

Did you two really write this? Fantastic! I am feeling better and better about this little community you are starting. You really have the right idea. You're both working together, and have a smart approach. I look forward to supporting you, on into the future.

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bringbackart In reply to changinglanes [2007-04-18 06:16:34 +0000 UTC]

I certainly did! I'm so glad you're enjoying your time here, but its only just begun! We've got some killer projects in store for y'all, keep an eye out!

Thanks for your support!

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MistressWinter In reply to ??? [2007-04-18 02:26:39 +0000 UTC]

I've been trying to write decent comments every once in a while for those special pieces that are just absolutely worth it, and in return I get wonderful comments back and even new friends :] A nice comment goes a long way and that is why I must definitely this in hopes that someone will check my favorites and take the time to read this themselves.
Thank you very muchly for taking the time to write this to benefit other deviants. I extremely appreciate it

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bringbackart In reply to MistressWinter [2007-04-18 06:15:46 +0000 UTC]

This is what makes a club worth the effort. People like you. Thanks for your kind and inspirational words. I'm glad you enjoyed this. Appreciate your support!

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MistressWinter In reply to bringbackart [2007-04-18 06:17:56 +0000 UTC]

You are very welcome! In fact, I'm going to join this wonderful club

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bringbackart In reply to MistressWinter [2007-04-18 06:18:25 +0000 UTC]

Awesome, you're welcome anytime!

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aquiestubojuan In reply to ??? [2007-04-17 23:29:45 +0000 UTC]

wow, it sure does look as if it took quite a while xD but it's really true... it's the kind of thing I know I like to read, because I've gotten comments like that... I'll be sure to do my best to make my comments useful

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bringbackart In reply to aquiestubojuan [2007-04-18 06:13:13 +0000 UTC]

If this encourages you to make even just one good comment, this was all my time. I hope this helps!

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FoxLi In reply to ??? [2007-04-17 22:38:14 +0000 UTC]

Very well-written and to the point. I'll keep it handy when I'm out giving serious crit. Thanks for sharing with us!

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bringbackart In reply to FoxLi [2007-04-18 06:12:22 +0000 UTC]

You're most welcome, thanks for reading!

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meli-lightfox In reply to ??? [2007-04-17 21:30:50 +0000 UTC]

Oh this is definately going into my favorites and getting a link in my journal. This is a really good idea though. Please keep ideas like this coming.

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bringbackart In reply to meli-lightfox [2007-04-18 06:11:35 +0000 UTC]

Thanks so much for your support and your kind words, we appreciate it!!

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meli-lightfox In reply to bringbackart [2007-04-18 17:39:58 +0000 UTC]

No problem. I'll keep watching and supporting.

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Erameline In reply to ??? [2007-04-17 19:07:40 +0000 UTC]

Haha, sweet irony. I was just going to leave the and go, but that's kind of defeating the purpose, no?

I think you should make the colors prettier. Just kidding.

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bringbackart In reply to Erameline [2007-04-18 06:10:13 +0000 UTC]

HAHA! Yeah...kind of...

Thanks so much for giving me a laugh, and for your amazing support! Appreciate it!

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Sesruc In reply to ??? [2007-04-17 18:55:45 +0000 UTC]

Wow. This is frighteningly useful! T-e-i captures everything from the black, white, and gray.

I'll be sure to refer to this when I need it.

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bringbackart In reply to Sesruc [2007-04-18 06:09:41 +0000 UTC]

You're far too kind! Thanks so much for your support!

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amuzement In reply to ??? [2007-04-17 16:35:58 +0000 UTC]

this was amazingly helpful!
however, some deviants get quite annoyed and just go "whatever" if you start critiquing them, whick sucks majorly >___<

anyway, i'll fave this in hope some certain people take notice ;D

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bringbackart In reply to amuzement [2007-04-18 06:07:01 +0000 UTC]

Yes, sadly this is often the response to critique. Thanks for your support!

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GreenSprite In reply to amuzement [2007-04-17 16:37:00 +0000 UTC]

So what? It's not hurting you. They can't report you or something if you've been respectful and fair. I think you should never worry about your critique not being well received. It's their loss, not yours

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amuzement In reply to GreenSprite [2007-04-17 16:48:22 +0000 UTC]


It just annoys me so much the way that they either be really rude t me, or even worse, be all polite, and repeat exactly the same comments on my gallery to be like "my work's better than yours! you can't tell me to "keep going" because i'm damn parfect"
ugh. but not saying that comments aren't a good thing, or couse, it just p's me off the way people respond to it .__.;

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GreenSprite In reply to amuzement [2007-04-17 18:27:50 +0000 UTC]

Aw, you just gotta learn to ignore what you don't like, and your life will be so much easier

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GreenSprite In reply to ??? [2007-04-17 16:34:43 +0000 UTC]

There's another important thing: you need to have a certain degree of art education to give proper advice on techniques (by that I don't mean going to an art school, self-taught is fine too).

I mean, everyone can say how a piece makes them FEEL. But to give an in-depth critique and suggestions for improvement, I think you should know a bit about anatomy, perspective, composition, and color theory (in drawing) or photo techniques (for photography). That's why I'd advice people to educate themselves. They help themselves AND others this way, and their comments mean more.

Oh, and great work on this I appreciate the time and thought you put into it.

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bringbackart In reply to GreenSprite [2007-04-18 06:05:44 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, good critique will never become great technique without some form of prior knowledge in the techniques of the artwork you are commenting. However, I believe this is at least a start!

Thanks so much for your feedback, I'm glad you enjoyed it. It makes that time worth while!

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Neadysamurai In reply to ??? [2007-04-17 16:14:04 +0000 UTC]

Great job!!
Hope people read it

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