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In the tradition of the Girls und Panzer rival tankery schools, Szittya High is represented by its three most important tank commanders.Some more info on them individully, from left to right in the big picture:
-Ervin, commander (and gunner and radio operator) of the Zrinyi II assault howitzer and overall 3rd-in-command.
Being the first tankery "ace" of this school, her comrades gave her the nickname "Ervin", after the Hungarian tank ace Ervin Tarczay. She specialised in ballistics and is the school's best shot, even after being given command of the Zrinyi's unwieldy 105mm howitzer. As such, she acts as the school's knockout punch. She favors a combination of firepower, accuracy and strong coffee, the latter of which she has developed an addiction to. She also is the school's main tankery instructor, introducing new recruits into the sport.
-Bleda, commander of the Turan II heavy tank and squadron commander (Kapitány).
Courteous and intelligent, she provides the leadership holding the tankery squadron together. Even in the face of a string of defeats she maintains a rather naïve optimism. For the rather small and obsolete tank force of her school she has developed a highly mobile and agressive style of tankery, mainly influenced by the tactics of Kuromorimine and Anzio schools. Besides leading the tankery team she also rides horse in show-jumping competitions, in which she reached second place multiple times. Even though facing teams with more and better tanks than her own, she maintains that "Tankery isn't about the tanks, but the people in them."
-Etel, commander of one of the two Turan I medium tanks and overall 2nd-in-command.
The most agressive and headstrong of Szittya's commanders, she often leads the charge in her Turan tank. She prefers to fight enemy tanks from as close a distance as possible, sometimes deliberately scraping the edge of her turret against enemy tanks, and often ramming their suspension. She lays a strong emphasis on discipline, and her crew is therefore the most disciplined of the school. Despite the tank's severe limitations she has grown attached to the Turan I, getting a sense of pride out of performing almost impossible feats with it. She also participates in Szittya's Hungarian-style ballet as ballerina.
Apologies for the wonky perspective.
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The girl in the picture frame on the wall looks like Maho Nishizumi.
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So Miho has connections to the school?
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No, but they are supposed to be fans of the Nishizumi style.
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Your art of anime are splendid. I am working on mine too. Do your best, "Geef niet op!!"
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I hope my Sir. Zhestkov Imperial Girls High School can alliance with your Szittya High School.
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Can I ask why did you name the other two girls Bleda and Etel? Also, I can name two more WW2 Hungarian tank aces for you, and 2 more who were considered to be very effective and skilled tankers if you want to.
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They are Hunnic names; I chose to give them those instead of real Hungarian names because they aren't really Hungarian girls. In the GuP universe the different schools are characterised by being rather stereotypical of the factions they represent (like the English team, they all got tea-based names and drink tea all the time). So I went with the Hungarians taking after the Huns stereotype.
Bleda is an obvious Hunnic name; I find the historical Khan Bleda interesting, so I picked his name.
I got the name Etel from a novel about the Huns, it was a Hunnic character from that book (Throne of the World by Louis de Wohl). I am thinking about swapping it for a more obvious Hunnic name like Ernak/Ellac though, because I'm not sure whether Etel is a real Hunnic name. And Attila would just be TOO obvious.
I'd like to learn more about the Hungarian tank aces though.
By the way, I also have plans for making a smaller Romanian tankery school, with characters with Roman (instead of Romanian) names/themes. Because of the Romanians imitating Romans stereotype.
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Etel is fine. It's a real name in Hungarian language too which means "noble". And the name Etel can be found in ancient Hungarian history too. For example: Etelköz. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungaria…
First ace is Barnabás Kőszeghy. www.flamesofwar.com/hobby.aspx… That link is the only english link I could find, but there are many hungarian sources about him. He was an ace-in-a-day, but he also died on the same day. He was extremly brave, he did not leave his vehicle even when it catched fire and destroyed 2 T-34 tanks when the ammo storage finally blew up. His vehicle was a german StuG but he was an assault gunner, which is considered as an elite unit. Assault gunners used Zrínyi IIs, Hetzers and StuGs because Hungary did not had enough Zrínyi tanks. The original plan was to have Zrínyi II and Zrínyi I tanks in 1/2 ratio (2 Zrínyi I tanks for each Zrínyi IIs), but sadly, Hungary did not had enough 75mm guns, so only one Zrínyi I was made.
Second is is a less known one, but he was the very first tank commander who is considered as a tank ace in the military history of Hungary. He was János Roszik, who died in 1942 at the Don river. He commanded a Pz.IV F1 and had 5 confirmed tank kills and many AT gun kills. Amongst his kills there is a KV-1 too. He is not well known even amongst hungarians, so you can't really find anything about him in english.
The talented tankers are: Lajos Hegedűs and József Pártos. Just like Roszik, they aren't well known either.
Hegedűs commanded Pz.IV too, just like Roszik, he was in the same company as him, but in different platoons. Sources only mention 2 confirmed kills of his, but he probably had more. He used up 2 PzIVs in a month (the first got blown up by a land-mine, the second got shot by a KV-1 or T-34, he survived both). He fought at the Don river in 1942, but aside from that we don't really know anything. He probably survived the winter offensive and got back to Hungary.
Pártos was a commander of a Pz.38(t). We don't know much about him, only that he was a very talented and skilled commander. He died in 1942 when his tank was shot by a T-34, we don't know how many kills he had.
Based on role and capabilities, a PzIV F1 can be replaced with a Turán II, a Pz.38(t) by a Turán I, and a StuG by a Zrínyi I. Also, do you consider to add Tas and Turán III tanks to the armory? One of each of course.
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Thanks a lot, it's very interesting but unfortunately very hard to find anything about them in English, like you said.
The Assault Gun units for some time were mostly made-up of Turan tanks because of the shortage of tank destroyers, by the way.
I roughly know the capabilities of the Hungarian tanks; by the way the Turán I was more similar to the Pz. III than to the Pz.38(t).
For now, I don't think I'll add the Tas to the team because, although one prototype was build, it never entered the production stage and I prefer vehicles that actually were produced and used in combat. The same goes for the Zrinyi I, btw. Moreover, the current setup kind of reflects the situation of the Hungarian tankers, having less tanks than the enemy and having a very hard time penetrating enemy tanks due to their small-calible or short guns (a typical underdog situation). I am less sure about the Turán III, since it was cleared for production (although they only built one, plus the prototype) and possibly saw service (there is a rumor of 6 Turáns also being upgunned to Turán IIIs). Maybe the school will obtain a 75mm PaK40 later and upgrade one of their Turáns to a Turán III, to be more competitive...
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The Zrínyi I was built, tested and accepted for mass-production, just like the Turán III.
Your knowledge on the Turán III is imperfect. Only one Turán III was built, which was the prototype itself. They took the chassis of a Turán II and put a new turret on it. There were no more Tuán IIIs, just the prototype. It did not see service just like the Zrínyi I. We don't know if they participated in the Siege of Budapest because of the lack of information, but both were ready to take action.
The rumor about 6 Turáns being upgunned to Turán IIIs is false, Hungary only had 2 75mm tank guns. One was in the Turán III and one in the Zrínyi I. A third was under construction when the Soviet forces captured the factory which built it. The Hungarian 75mm gun was somewhat weaker than the PaK 40, but not that much.
I was just asking the Tas, because according to the rules of the Sensha-do, it is acceptable, but I respect your answer. 
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Thanks for the clarification!
I can imagine the prototypes being used by the defenders of Budapest, since the Hungarian armor units apparently were quite short of tanks with guns able to take out T-34s at combat ranges.
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Me too, but sadly there are no datas on that. Many Hungarian documents were destroyed either by the events of the war or intentionally by the Hungarians or Soviets.
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By the way, I'd like to ask something about Hungarian tankers; as mentioned earlier I bought this model soldier set: indy-amps.weebly.com/uploads/1… and I was wondering, is the headwear of the sitting man in the middle supposed to be this cdn-live.warthunder.com/upload… but without the leather tubes? I am not sure if the modeller got this right...
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I think the modeller got that wrong. That headgear looks like a Soviet tanker headgear. Hungary used such after the war. But it's deffinately not the tubular headgear. Only a few of them were used and you can see it on photos of CV.35 crews only. Hungarian tankers mostly wore the 35.M or the 37.M helmets, and in some cases they wore only their hats, just like the German tankers.
Oh, let me ask you another thing. What about a Nimród? Hungary originally used it as a tank destroyer but found out that it's a very effective SPAAG too. So it became a dual-purpose vehicle. And Hungary always named Nimród units as "Tank Destroyer" units, not as SPAAG units. So I believe that it can be added to Szittya High's vehicle park.
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Thanks a lot!
Unfortunately it seems open-topped vehicles aren't allowed in Tankery, because of crew safety issues. Otherwise they'd have a Nimród too.
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But they allow tankettes with weak armor, armed with machine guns? Bah, they ae just afraid of the mighty Nimród.
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Anime logic! And yes, the Nimród would slaughter those tankettes and small Japanese tanks.
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Very nice drawnig and awesome and precise description!!!
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Thank you! It'd be great to have some Turans in the series I think.
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Nice one. Intresting characters i say.
Question: Will you do fanfic around them? Or use them in RP? Just asking!
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Thanks! I don't RP. You can call it a fanfic, it's just a personal project to have a Hungarian school in GuP (because there are no Turan tanks in GuP, which is a bad thing IMHO).
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Okey. I was doing a fanfic of my own a year ago... Too about GuP universe but a bit diffrent then others. Why? Becouse ther was man fighting in those tanks.
Still, im intrest to see more about that school of yours.
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Nice work! The Hungarian team slowly comes to life, hehe! (And is that Maho's picture on the wall?)
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Thanks! And yes, that's Maho. Bleda admires her.
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I think its her. I can smell it from miles away but yet... Its kinda funny thing. I mean, think of officers office in WW2. Like German officer office or Soviet one.
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