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Published: 2011-07-10 02:47:15 +0000 UTC; Views: 30071; Favourites: 1397; Downloads: 0
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* EDIT: I don't care if you'd have rather me said "SWEARING" or "CURSING" instead of "CUSSING", I've grown used to calling it CUSSING and I don't give a flying fuck how "childish" it sounds.So, here's the thing. It actually depends with me.
When you're having a debate and you wanna sound intelligent, I wouldn't overdo the cussing. But frankly, if you're having a debate with a complete idiot, I wouldn't blame you for not being able to control your mouth.
Same goes for when I get angry or upset. I tend to let loose on the language.
But honestly. If someone can't handle a few bad words (I just think it's funny when I go to a stamp and people baww in the comments about "I LUV UR STAMP BUT I WISH U CUSSED A LITTLE LESS
"), then your place isn't here. On the wonderful world of the internet, ESPECIALLY places like deviantart where you're fucking allowed to, you should grow some thicker skin or find your place on Club Penguin, or God forbid, Roblox. Not here.
Not to mention, you can't exactly tell someone what to do in regards to how they talk, especially when it's not against the rules. I agree, cussing a LOT does make someone look like an idiot, but sometimes, when it comes to some issues, I don't blame people for exploding in a flurry of "FUCK"s and "GODDAMMIT"s.
We interrupt this stamp with a lols-worthy story:
I made an anti-bestiality stamp once, and somebody literally commented saying that they also hate bestiality and agree that it's sick and twisted, but said my cussing in the artist's description of the stamp was worse than bestiality, itself. Yes. Cussing is illegal for that very reason, right ?
OH WAIT. IT'S NOT EVEN ILLEGAL.
It DOESN'T spread diseases or kill/abuse animals?
NO IT DOESN'T. IT'S A MIRACLE.
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Apparently there's another fucking sea out there.
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Holy shit. My mind is officially fucking blown.
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I think a few bad words are better than ALL fucking CAPS.
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Glad you agree !
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The only time I have a problem with cussing is if, say, a five year old is there. Like on such sites as Club Penguin. But hey, we're allowed on dA
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Yeah, I don't really like when little kids talk with sailor mouths, either, and on sites where it isn't allowed, like you said. But yes. On sites where it's allowed, it shouldn't be such an issue.
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I don't really mind if other people curse , but I wouldn't support cursing
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It's peoples' mouths. It's allowed on dA. Let them do what they want, I say.
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All the stamps are now preachy opinion shoving angry things.
But they're so cuuuute! 
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WELL AS LONG AS THEY'RE CUTE, Y'KNOW.
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Thank you! I get tired of people wussing over ONE curse word 
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I think that's just REALLY funny. I'm glad you like my stamp !
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1. If you wouldn't do it to a person's face, and you're doing it on the web, does that make you a coward?
2. Does it advance the point you're trying to make, or convince anyone of a proposition, other than that you hold it ardently?
3. If you were REALLY out to do some damage, couldn't you find a way to use standard English to FAR more effectively wound/scar/frighten/offend than by using a knee-jerk response all of us have heard before?
4. For my part, obscenity just tells me that the counter-party to any discussion is 'out of gas' intellectually, and doesn't offend; it's just tiresome, common, and ugly.
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I'm not one for defending the people who use cussing a LOT. But judging by what you're saying, you're against it all together.
* In case you didn't read, I agree, using standard English would be way more effective against people, BUT. I also said I refrain from cussing in debates/arguments where I obviously need and want to sound intelligent and want to be the better person.
If someone slips the OCCASIONAL cuss word and someone on the internet cries over it, they really need to grow thicker skin and expect things like that will happen.
And here's another thing: I do do it in person. That's where I got the habit of dropping the occasional swear word in the FIRST place. But when it comes to people who only do it online, yes, I agree, it makes it pretty cowardly.
I'm just saying people shouldn't tell someone to "tone down the language" online in cases where they don't have to, because they WILL see language across the internet and, yes, in real life. They obviously seem like the types who aren't allowed to watch rated R films with characters that drop more swear words than I do in the span of a few months.
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I did carefully read your entire 'artists comments'. I get what your saying about over-sensitive people. Where I disagree is that I can't see any utility in swearing. I do, in fact, swear myself. But every time I've been in some kind of contention with someone, refraining from doing so ALWAYS gives me, to use a military term, the 'high ground', and hence, a distinct advantage: As they say, the one who loses his temper, loses. When I'm advancing a position, I've never derived an advantage from profanity. Indeed, calm statement of a position can be more convincing than passion, even intimidating in the face of contrary passion. Thus I can find no means to defend this defective habit in myself either in the context of morality or practical consideration. Hence, I'm not so much 'against it' as seeing it as merely useless. Why employ something if better is available?
About those movies, I prefer that people swear if it is an accurate portrayal of how people behave in the situation portrayed. I do hold truth important, and many, many truths aren't palatable. And thanks for your reply.
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"Where I disagree is that I can't see any utility in swearing. I do, in fact, swear myself. But every time I've been in some kind of contention with someone, refraining from doing so ALWAYS gives me, to use a military term, the 'high ground', and hence, a distinct advantage: As they say, the one who loses his temper, loses."
- I never said that swearing had any deeper reason or purpose, and I never even said it was a necessary thing to do. But people are going to do it, especially on the internet and on sites where they allow it. It's just real life. If people are so sheltered as to not expect to see it or get offended by seeing it, they need to move to a different, more "child-friendly" website. As for your 'refraining to do so' in most cases, I actually pointed that out, also. I mentioned that ESPECIALLY in cases of arguments or debates, I'd refrain from swearing, as it gives the advantage and you become the better and more intelligent-sounding person.
"About those movies, I prefer that people swear if it is an accurate portrayal of how people behave in the situation portrayed. I do hold truth important, and many, many truths aren't palatable."
- I agree. I don't even find such a big taste in movies that spew curse words for no given reason or context to the situation, but for the most part, they stay real about it. Not everyone you see is going to have a completely clean mouth, so if anything, what most movies portray are pretty realistic along the grounds of cursing and swearing.
No problem, thank you for yours.
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"1. If you wouldn't do it to a person's face, and you're doing it on the web, does that make you a coward?"
- I drop "fuck", "shit", "pussy", "cunt", "dickhead", "faggot", "Christfag", ect. in person, and I'm female in case you choose to assume I'm male (because for some reason, heavy cursing is affiliated with men).
"2. Does it advance the point you're trying to make, or convince anyone of a proposition, other than that you hold it ardently?"
- My cursing offends only the weak, simple-minded while the rest who view my stamps are intelligent enough to see it as passion against stupidity and ignorance; intelligent enough to see that cursing doesn't invalidate any arguments/points I make. Only the sensitive twats who bitch and moan about it are merely the product of a society that is doing more and more to shelter and baby people from things it deems "bad" or "wrong".
"3. If you were REALLY out to do some damage, couldn't you find a way to use standard English to FAR more effectively wound/scar/frighten/offend than by using a knee-jerk response all of us have heard before?"
- Since when was cursing meant to "wound/scar/frighten" people? 
I also enjoy how you're so against cursing . . . but not the supposed 'reasons' for doing so - the "wound/scar/frighten/offend". You basically have no fucking beef with people verbally attacking others .. "BUTT JUS DONT CUSS MMK?" 
"4. For my part, obscenity just tells me that the counter-party to any discussion is 'out of gas' intellectually, and doesn't offend; it's just tiresome, common, and ugly."
- You actually sound pretty offended, personally. That, or you're just holding onto this childish "CUSSIN IZ BAD N MEEN N STEWPID" mentality. Cursing is "only bad" and "offensive" because people like you have placed such stigma on the words in the first place.
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Thank you for your thoughtful replies.
1. Fair enough.
2. You didn't answer my second question, really. I didn't ask if it offended people, but whether it advanced the point of the speaker. Your answer didn't address this. According to you, some will see your passion, while others will be blind to the point your trying to make out of offense. Again, it seems profanity itself does nothing to substantively advance whatever view you offer.
3. About your response to point '3', psychologists will tell you that swearing is a form of 'verbal aggression', in essence, a 'human roar'. While not exclusively meant to harm (people will swear out of fright, or in pain, i.e.) it is predominantly used to intimidate, harm, or forcefully advance a view or feeling. I DON'T, in fact, 'approve' of the 'supposed reasons for cursing', including abusive behavior, but ask those who curse in service to those reasons if thoughtful invention couldn't offer more efficient ways of accomplishing their ends. AND I was saying cursing is a mere nuisance TO ME, not to everyone.
3. I do, in fact, curse myself. I'm also aware and will admit, however, that this has done NOTHING to advance my social relationships and indeed, much to harm them. I cannot, however much I consider it, defend my profanity, but must admit it a defect of habit I'm unable to correct.
4. Also, let me say that the three questions I posed were meant to be asked by all readers of themselves, and do not hold ANYONE accountable to me...
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2. What other question? The one if it "advances" anything beyond my personal passion? Yes and no - it depends on who you ask. I curse because I can, because it comes naturally to me, and because it has an added bonus of weeding out the simple-minded pussrags while entertaining everyone else.
3. And what alternate "services" do you exactly expect me or anyone else to do or say to get the same "reactions" you deem we're hoping for? I daresay you wouldn't exactly expect us to fucking assault you instead if it's in person, or hack your account and remove everything from your gallery if it's on dA, do you?
>"AND I was saying cursing is a mere nuisance TO ME, not to everyone."
>>"couldn't you find a way to use standard English to FAR more effectively wound/scar/frighten/offend than by using a knee-jerk response all of us have heard before?"
4. Yeah? And? I just happened to be one of those readers who decided to take it upon herself to respond to your questions.
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You've misunderstood me about a couple of points. I don't expect you or anyone to do or say any 'services', but wonder if you could apply 'invention' in the way of speech ('in service' of same, as it were) thus certainly not hacking or physical assault, to get your point across.
And the swearing you're using: It doesn't impress or convince, frighten or intimidate: It just makes me want to take a disinfectant shower after dealing with you...
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Oh, I can and do make it a point to call-out people's ability to comprehend the things they read, their level of intellect, their mental age, their grasp of Basic English and grammar, their attitude, ect. Not cursing wouldn't lessen the blow anymore than if I had been cursing.
And you're misunderstanding me if you seriously believe I'm trying to "impress/convince/frighten/intimidate" you or anyone else through cursing - in fact, I'd say you'd have be quite the fucking egocentric to actually believe I'd go out of my way to do all of that just for you or any other one of the three dozen idiots I come across on a daily basis.
You say you feel dirty after dealing with someone like me, and I say I feel like I've been dealing with someone with the mental age of seven-year-old who had devout Christians for parents.
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Thank you for the laugh. Keep 'em comin'.
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Don't worry, you've been providing laughs for the rest of us. So, please, you keep them coming. c:
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...and not a swear word in this post. Congrats!
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Apparently not whatever.
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Yes, where has the wit gone in our internet arguments?
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I suspect it's been drained away by the odd effects of mutual anonymity.
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Hey if they swear off the internet, point one is completely invalid. In that case, your argument is rather void - and no one said they were out to do damage; some people just swear in their everyday speech with things like "fuck yeah" which isn't a term there to offend. If you don't approve of this stamp, just don't comment on it.
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"Don't like it? You shouldn't voice your opinion then!"
Yeah, get real.
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Yes because that's a mature way to handle things. "Yeah, get real" is the best comment possible.
I never said people can't voice their opinions - this stamp wouldn't even exist if that were the case - but people are going to get hate if they disagree with the stamp; especially when the majority of other people seem to agree. That's fact.
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Attacking immaturity is such a standard move, although you would play by a book judging from your other comments where 'debate' is used in a trigger happy manner.
Back peddling only shows insecurity.
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I'm not insecure - is the first thing I will need to point out. If I was insecure, I would have ignored your comment and acted as if nothing was going on; it would be far simpler.
As for my use of the word "debate", it was in response to their use of the same word not my personal choice of words. I wouldn't really call this a debate when we were commenting on each others points not the actual subject of the stamp and the same goes for me and you now. And, tell me, how would I play from a book for that reason?
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