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chibigingi In reply to mustlovealll1fe [2012-10-26 00:52:45 +0000 UTC]

He was at Mechacon and I stayed after a panel to talk with him. He's such a bro...

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Decepticon9000 In reply to chibigingi [2012-12-13 18:20:30 +0000 UTC]

Ur lucky!!

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chibigingi In reply to Meb90 [2012-09-30 17:43:41 +0000 UTC]

Miko does need character development, but for me, the less of I see of the selfish, whiny twit, the happier I'll be. As much as I've complained about Smokescreen and the lazy writing in the last two episodes, I'm sated by the fact that I didn't see Miko at all, and even her role in "The Human Factor" was pretty good (she didn't hog up screen time, she didn't do anything reckless or stupid to endanger the lives of others, and she genuinely had some funny one-liners). Shoot, even "New Recruit" put Miko in a good light for me, as she curbed her enthusiasm for Bulkhead's sake (selfless reasons, for once). Too bad it's all gone down the pooper by having Bulkhead recover too quickly AND overcome his issues with Smokescreen, but I digress. I think there could have been another episode in between "New Recruit" and "The Human Factor" to focus on that, but alas, they only have so many episodes they can do, and it seems like they're reaching season 2's end games.

But yeah, the miscommunication between the writers is painfully obvious to see.

1) Bulkhead, who was supposedly never going to be fully functional again, got better WAY too quickly. "Human Factor" has a good step, but having him completely healed/repaired by the time "Legacy" came out? Yeah, no. Unless you give us a span of time- otherwise, we assume it's happened immediately after "The Human Factor" since Raf and Agent Fowler are off relocating Raf's family after Silas and Soundwave tried to nuke it.
2) Raf's and Ratchet's virus doesn't seem to be giving the Autobots the edge they claimed it would. I know it's feeding them the Iacon Database, but I thought that if Soundwave decrypted one, the Autobots would then automatically get that decryption? Maybe I've misheard, but it doesn't seem like the Autobots have gotten that much of an advantage from "Triage".
3) Arcee, nor Ratchet, not even BOTHERING to check for Smokescreen's body or Energon signature? I'll cut Arcee some slack- she probably went back to base after Megatron told her to deliver the message, but what stopped Ratchet from turning to the console and looking for Smokescreen? He's obviously done it before with other Autobots; did the pyramid or phase disruptor interfere? Then say so, writers. Otherwise, you're treating the audience like we're too stupid to think or have noticed the phase disruptor on his wrist (I mean, it's pretty obvious against his white finish).
4) Phase disruptor- If you're going to use it, at least set down some rules for how it works. On "New Recruit", Smokescreen seemed to have a firm understanding of the device, enough to kick Starscream out of the Apex Armor. On "Alpha, Omega", he seemed just as surprised that it worked to phase him into the pyramid as Arcee and the others were. Either he knows how to use the device or not; for someone who's guarded the relics, you'd think he'd know how most of them worked, you know?

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Meb90 In reply to chibigingi [2012-09-30 22:35:18 +0000 UTC]

I agree with you on all the points!
I'm not 100% sure how the writers work. If they write it with all or if they are just handed out synopsis for an episode and has to write it all alone. But after these huge errors I believe it the last option.
And working like this won't work in the long run. Not when we got a show that relies heavily on continuity. Had they followed the stand alone episode formula I would not mind. But this is really lazy done. And I don't like seeing that happen to a show I really enjoy and that has such a bright future ahead of it.

They need to let all the writers get together and write this show together or else all the puzzle pieces won't fit together.
You can clearly see that all the writers have different views of all the characters in the way they portraits the characters in different episodes. And by doing that makes the characters really inconsistent.
And I too fear they are gonna introduce too many at once in the show. Cuz if they have problems developing the once they have now what are they gonna do with the newcomers?

But if there is one thing I really wish the show could have removed was the humans. Or to be a bit more specific the kids.
They don't add anything to the plot and they are more there just to be "damsels in distress".
And when they have something to add to the plot they seems rather forced then anything. And really underdeveloped because they are only kids.
If they had to add humans to the mix they should have made them a lot older. I personally would have like them to be adults.
At least then it would make a bit more sense that Raf is a master hacker(That even at times is even better then freaking Soundwave if the plot demands it!)

But they are only there so that kids in the audience have someone to identify with. >__>
Because you can't identify with anything that ain't human right!? Right!?
Guess they haven't seen Beast wars.... .___.

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chibigingi In reply to Paola18 [2012-09-30 17:05:28 +0000 UTC]

He's going to need a lot more high grade when the day is through...

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Paola18 In reply to chibigingi [2012-09-30 17:08:06 +0000 UTC]

Sure he is...

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chibigingi In reply to TheUnacknowledged [2012-09-29 19:33:19 +0000 UTC]

Yeeeeeep.

Brash speedster with no concept of subtly and though he goofs up from time to time, he means well and often saves the day in some manner.

Sounds like various versions of Bumblebee to me. ^_^

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chibigingi In reply to DuckLoverX2 [2012-09-29 16:54:01 +0000 UTC]

Well, it does make sense. Smokescreen has a SHIT ton to catch up on, and though only being there for 4 episodes, is ten time more interesting than Optimus Prime and Bumblebee put together. And the show IS meant to focus on the Autobots, but if Hasbro wanted their viewers to care more about the Autobots and not the Decepticons, than they should do a better job in keeping the Autobots interesting and fresh. Make us WANT to care, because honestly? I don't. I didn't care about the Autobots until Smokescreen popped up, and now I find myself growing a little bored with him.

Maybe put some of that development/screentime into Wheeljack, or developing something interesting for Bumblebee, since Smokey's taking his classic role anyway?

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DuckLoverX2 In reply to chibigingi [2012-09-29 17:32:41 +0000 UTC]

That's true, and I completely understand that the show is focused on the Autobots, it's just that everyone on Teamprime gets at least one line or more of dialogue in every episode while there might be two Decepticons (excluding Megatron) that show up for screentime, and one the next episode. But, that's just how Hasbro works I guess :I

Honestly, as clearly shown, I'm more of a Decepticon fan but I do like some bots: Ratchet, Wheeljack, and now Smokescreen is starting to grow on me. I would really like Wheeljack to come back soon, and I hope my prediction comes true since Team Prime has to collect all four Omega keys, so maybe he'll make an appearance? XD

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chibigingi In reply to DuckLoverX2 [2012-09-29 19:51:04 +0000 UTC]

The moment you realize that Hasbro is a big, evil, soulless corporation that has absolutely no idea what it fanbase wants, the happier your existence will be.

If they knew what their fanbase wanted, they'd release Voyager Breakdown, and the Deluxe Skywarp and Thundercracker to the states.

Instead, we get fuckin' Hot Shot and recolored Bumblefuck.

It's almost like they don't WANT our money.

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DuckLoverX2 In reply to chibigingi [2012-09-29 20:19:57 +0000 UTC]

True that! D: Some of the action figures don't even have effort put into them. They just use the same mold and change the paint, then calling it a different.

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chibigingi In reply to Whozawhatcha [2012-09-29 16:47:20 +0000 UTC]

Yes, Dreadwing has always had a special place in my heart, from the moment he arrived. It's just a pity that the writers don't seem to know what to DO with him.

Playing up his whole 'revenge vs duty' would be a good start. Or maybe have his failed mission with Breakdown affect him to the point that he vows never to lose another comrade again (hahahaha, not going to happen, seeing has Vehicons and Eradicons can't stack up in a fight worth shit anymore). Or SOMETHING...

Having him just looming in the background for so long really bites.

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Whozawhatcha In reply to chibigingi [2012-09-29 18:37:43 +0000 UTC]

Yeah. I'm really REALLY hoping they do more with him, cause that sense of "revenge vs duty" is KILLING me that a Decepticon has a sense of (if a little twisted) but still, a sense of HONOR. I want more Dreadwing!

(yeah, seriously. The Vehicons used to be BA in the first episodes as well as the Out of the Past episode, so why can't they fight worth anything now? Hm.)

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chibigingi In reply to Whozawhatcha [2012-09-29 19:35:23 +0000 UTC]

Without Breakdown there, the Vehicons have no one to pal around with or get pep talk from. Quite tragic, really.

Join the club. We need tshirts. MORE DREADWING!

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Whozawhatcha In reply to chibigingi [2012-09-29 19:43:14 +0000 UTC]

I miss Breakdown. And I want moar Dreadwing! I'll get the t-shirt! D

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chibigingi In reply to thelavendercat [2012-09-29 16:48:18 +0000 UTC]

Eh, I like Ratchet and a few others as well, but yeah, those two and Breakdown are/were my main factors in watching this show as it's airing instead of marathoning it when the season is over like I usually do.

MOAR KO, MOAR DW!

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thelavendercat In reply to chibigingi [2012-09-29 17:06:46 +0000 UTC]

I do like other bots, just not as much as my golden trio (Knock Out, Dreadwing, and Breakdown). Especially since the other Autobots might as well just be twiddling their thumbs in the background while Arcee gets all the attention. That's kind of a tetchy thing for me...

AND YES, WE DEMAND MOAR KO AND DW!

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chibigingi In reply to thelavendercat [2012-09-29 17:12:22 +0000 UTC]

I rather like what they've done with Arcee, especially compared to Arcee's of the past, but I can understand the sentiment. Of all the Autobots, she seems to get the most attention.

I guess that's the problem with a cast so small; you're going to run into the problem that some viewers may really get tired of seeing the same five faces over and over again, knowing that there'd no real hope for variation and all the writers can do is either add another character in, or think to develop them.

What happens when they've reached their peak, can no longer develop without completely changing the character? That's the time to look at the other characters that are stagnating and give THEM the chance to shine.

Bumblebee may have had one or two episodes with him as the main character, but given the way they've written him, it's hard to tell how he's developed from those experiences, assuming he's developed at all. With Smokescreen there, taking up his classic role of brash but means well youngster, what can they do with Bumblebee now? Given the fact that he can't talk, and will likely never talk again, he walks a fine line of being endearing and annoying.

I want more Bumblebee, but not with the BleepBloops and Raf or someone else translating. That gets real old, real fast. So it's no wonder they brought in Smokescreen.

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thelavendercat In reply to chibigingi [2012-09-29 17:39:10 +0000 UTC]

What happens when they've reached their peak, can no longer develop without completely changing the character? That's the time to look at the other characters that are stagnating and give THEM the chance to shine.

This is exactly what I've been thinking. My problem is that they have had ample opportunity to develop the other Autobots, or hell, even the other Decepticons and tell some very interesting stories, but they almost always fall back on Arcee. I bet Ratchet has some interesting war stories. Maybe the story of how Breakdown and Knock Out met? And if anyone needs any development, it's Bumblebee. But, nope, Arcee gets all the attention. I like her, sure, but I would really love to hear someone else's story.

I never understood the inclusion of Bumblebee, outside of the fact that he's such a staple of the Transformers franchise that people would throw a fit if he wasn't included. He never had much of a purpose, even as the kid appeal character, because he never did anything. I can only imagine what's going to happen to him when the writers realize that, by bringing in Smokescreen, Bumblebee might as well be a potted plant in the background.

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chibigingi In reply to thelavendercat [2012-09-29 19:49:19 +0000 UTC]

It'd be great if the writers DID realize this, and found a way to implement it into the show. Have Bee become aware of how similar they are and there be an episode about that, where Bumblebee finds his role/purpose/whatever and prove that they're different enough to exist in the same show.

Though, honestly?

I don't care enough about Bumblebee to mourn his disappearance. I just don't care much for the little bug anymore.

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chibigingi In reply to Nastenka202 [2012-09-29 16:49:11 +0000 UTC]

Space him out, at least? Give some development time to characters that are just stagnating, like OP and Bee.

They had TWO seasons to do something big or interesting with Bee, and they have faaaaaaailed. No wonder they had to bring in Smokescreen- he is the superior Bumblebee.

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Nastenka202 In reply to chibigingi [2012-09-29 17:27:53 +0000 UTC]

And what about episodes where Saylas stolen a Bee's T-cog? And episode where Bee went "into" Megatron's mind?
I think they are not failed :З

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chibigingi In reply to Nastenka202 [2012-09-29 19:43:43 +0000 UTC]

No, but have we seen Bumblebee develop ANY from those episodes?

Because of the way they made his character, we the viewers can't see HOW those events effected him. As far as I'm concerned, it looked as though he's gone back to status quot the moment the episode ended. No remorse of not being able to stop Megs' resurrection, no long term effects from being unable to transform and then being 'useless' (Ratchet had more development from Bee's ordeal than Bee himself, and if that was the point, then I'll call it a success).

It'd be nice to see some long term change in Bee's character, otherwise, those episodes were nice, but how do they hold up in the long run? How does it effect Bee? If it didn't effect Bee at all, then the episodes may have not even happened for him.

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Nastenka202 In reply to chibigingi [2012-09-30 20:52:46 +0000 UTC]

Maybe they did not want to risk Bee's nature, because if kids like him now, so why writer must to exert? The nature of the characters is rarely change, it something like an order of cartoons...
Honestly his role is a "puppy that touches the audience with his eyes". [link]

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chibigingi In reply to Nastenka202 [2012-09-30 20:58:55 +0000 UTC]

Haha, well, I suppose if they were reaching out to the lowest common denominator, then they've succeeded. I'm, unfortunately, no longer a child and therefor I look for characters with a little more to them then adorable body language and puppy dog like charm.

If he's there solely for the kids, okay, then we can have Bee and Smokescreen. I just don't find him all that appealing, and I truly wish that this show didn't cater to children... because imagine the places it could go if it didn't have those shackles.

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