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I made a stamp like this one for sexualities, now here's one for mental disorders.I hate it when mental disorders are turned into stereotypes, and after that into fads.
"AI AM GOOD AT MATH, AI AM ASOCIAL, AI MUST HAVE AUTISM!1!!!!"
"LULZ, I'M HYPER, I MUST HAVE ADHD, LOL"
"AN HOUR AGO I WAS HAPPY, BUT I'M SAD NOW, I MUST HAVE BIPOLARISM"
I hate when people talk like that.
HFA/Asperger's, ADHD/ADD, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, OCD, multiple personality disorder, and many others, have all turned into fads, something everyone should have, something you should be proud of, something to brag about on your web page, something that makes you cooler than other, "normal" human beings.
I'm not saying people should be ashamed of having a mental disorder or hide it from everyone like if it was something wrong you did, because you wasn't the cause of it, and I think that you can sometimes talk about it with someone, if you want. But being proud of it seems really stupid to me, as well as bragging about it with people. I don't see why someone should be proud or ashamed of having a disorder since they weren't the cause of it. Someone could just accept it, you mustn't necessarily be proud or ashamed of it, but, whatever.
The fact it that too many people use these disorders as fads, expecially Asperger's, ADHD and bipolarism at the moment. Asperger's most of all.
I clearly remember that, 9-10 years ago, when I was diagnosed with Asperger's and ADHD, no one knew what Asperger's was, but schizophrenia was the fad at the moment and everyone claimed to have it.
Or, 5 years ago, borderline PD was the fad, and even if Asperger's was alredy well-known, everyone claimed to have borderline. I can remember some people I know that at the time said "I don't have that stupid disorder called Asperger's, I have borderline", and now, after five years, when Asperger's is the new fad, they claim they have Asperger's. How stupid.
I hate when disorders are turned into fads because of some idiots that want to be different. Some people end up not believing people with the real disorders, or just assuming that a person "doesn't have it" because their disorder is not like the general stereotype.
Like, I've had someone telling me I was not intelligent enough to have Asperger's. Or another one who said that I smiled and laughed too much to have it.
I can't really trust people on the web when they claim they have a disorder, and I don't blame people if at first they don't take me seriously about that. It's easy to recognize the difference between someone who truly has one and someone who doesn't IRL, but it's not on the web. I usually observe them. I think that, if someone makes such a big deal about it, brags about it, feels cooler because of it and talks about it like if it was a stereotype and people with it were all the same, they probably don't have it. Ahw, well. My opinion at least.
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I've found that apologizing tends to help them see me as honestly having a problem, but not always.
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I know what it is like to have Aspergers. It is not just social that gets damaged but emotional as well.Β It is not fun, and I hate it when people fake disorders.
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It's one thing to say:
"I'm starting to notice some behavioral patterns. I think I should ask my doctor if I have OCD"
But it's a whole nother thing to say:
"OMG1!!!!! I TIE MA SHOOZ EVERY 5 MINUTES! I MUST HAVE OCD!!!111!! PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!1! I'M A SPESHULL SNOWFLAKE!"
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Yeah, thans SO MUCH for posting this!!!!!! I got sick of stupid people who trumpet mental disorders as some kind of a gift. They are DISORDERS for crying out loud, they don't provide you with anything positive
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OMG really
like, you struggle every day with stuff it's easy for other people because of your fucking disorder
and then you see these morons around screaming how cool is having a disorder.
Then people wonder why I have killer-like instincts.
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Haha, yeah! Where is Dexter when you need one? ))))
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Yes, this actually played a role in the suicide of my old friend. He had schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. People turned all that into fads and it annoyed him a lot...
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Agreed. Who in their right mind would think having a mental disorder was cool? I have one, and believe me, it sucks.Β
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I wish the Normal Person Personality Disorder would finally stop being a fad.
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Being "normal" is not an illness.
If I were "normal" I wouldn't have gone through a lot of shit I went through in my life.
I hate when people say that "normality" is a disorder because to me it's like if they say that everyone has a disorder which is not true and spreads the false stereotype that people with mental disorders don't actually need support because everyone has problems as severe as theirs. Which is not true. Not even close.
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Existence of rape culture, fashion, common manipulation, status-seeking and similar pathologies suggests that most of "normal" people are not only ill, but actually criminally insane.
They may be not suffering much from it but they are creating disordered environment and inflicting unnecessary suffering on others.
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It doesn't interfere with their everyday life in a way that is clinical (which comprehends the ability to leavevthe house, to pay attention, to work, socialize, and other stuff). Therefore it can't be clinically called a disorder.
You don't need to have a disorder to create it.
Also it's not like all NTs are "criminals" and all non-NTs are not. That is a wrong generalization. Antisocial personality disorder is not "normality" and also can be comorbid with other disorders. People with ASPD can commit crimes and their brain is not shaped like that of a neurotypical.
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Rape culture, corruption, manipulation and fashion and status-seeking do impend ability to work and socialize in humane ways.
I don't say all NTs are disordered. Many neurotypical traits are deeply problematic, though.
Manipulative people, highly conformist people, people without intense interests, etc. should probably be labelled with something like "low functioning neurotypical".
I wasn't talking about people with ASPD. Just ordinary people.
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What's wrong about wanting to conform and not having strong interests? Why should that be labeled as a disorder? There's nothing wrong with those traits. Everyone is free to do what they want with their lives as long as they don't harm others. Wanting to conform and not having strong interests doesn't hurt anyone.
I see that rape culture, corruption and manipulation are wrong things. But they are not only NT things. People with narcissistic PD are not NTs, they have a real disorder and should be helped, and one of the traits of a narcissist is manipulating people.
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Hmm... That's a rather difficult question. May take a few hours to answer.
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Is conformism possible without desire to enforce it and to discriminate against non-conformists? A good example of extreme conformism would be suitistm. Would it be possible to get work in a suitists worksite when wearing correctly made clothes instead of their favourite torture devices and be treated as an equal in that workplace??
Isn't school bullying in places with a lot of highly conformist individuals motivated by conformism?
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Also, it involves drastic changes in perception of reality - for example things being good or wrong depending on popularity/opinion of majority, not essential qualities of these things, which is practically delusional.
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Ok, maybe I was wrong on the lack of strong interests. Maybe it was just xenophobia on my part.
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They are not only NT things, but are the part of the NT spectrum where NT becomes pathological. Or maybe rather where NT should end and various disorder labels should begin but don't because it's too common (or no one actually bothers to go to psychologist).
Manipulation is extremely common in sales, advertisement and by extension of the latter in job hunting.
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Not all conformists discriminate against those wgo can't/don't want to conform. I have a friend who is a conformist and she has never discriminated against me or anyone else for not being able to conform.
If they are conformists and they bully those who are not it's not because they are conformists; it's because they are assholes. And being an asshole has nothing to do with being a conformist or a non-conformist.
I don't think many people should be dignosed with a disorder.
A diagnosis is provided if the person is impaired and need support/therapy.
Having just a few traits doesn't mean you have the disorder. Pretty much everyone has traits of a disorder or more, but in most cases they're not enough/they're not so impaired that they have the disorder. Manipulation is a trait of NPD, but this doesn't mean every manipulative person has NPD, if they don't have the other symptoms they don't meet the criteria for a diagnosis.
If too many people were diagnosed then diagnoses would lose their importance and people who actually needed support/therapy wouldn't get it.
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Uuuugh. I hate people.
I've actually got bipolar and OCD, and I got over depression a couple months ago. Why do people think they should make it a fad? Why do they find it cool? It's not easy putting up with mood swings that scare other people and, actually, terrify evenΒ meΒ sometimes. When I was younger, it wasn't the most fun spending hours at a time arranging my toys--and everything else that looked out of order; even the cereal boxes once--because I got frustrated every time I looked at them. It definitely wasn'tΒ easy when I suffered from thoughts of suicide and a constant empty feeling, while my dad just told me to cheer up because "depression isn't a real mental illness."
And I think my brother has Asperger's... He hasn't been diagnosed by a real psychiatrist or anything, but he's shown most of the symptoms, aside from being socially challenged. :/
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While I actually have ASD, I actually agree with this stamp. Turning mental disorders into fads feels like mocking them.Β
Also, I like how individuality became acceptable to society...slowly, but I also hate how some people want to be different (*cough* attention hogging *cough*) just to impress those who are actually different
So, this stamp has points
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Yeah; I have always thought that pretending to be "different" to impress someone else is stupid.
Individualism is ok, but pretending to be different just make you like anyone else because nowdays everyone wants to be "different".
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I actualy AM in a way bipolar... (ether that or it's the fucked up things in my life like living every day seeing someone I love die.. or.. almost every day) and being absolutely and utteraly alone irl ;m; so when I AM happy... I can turn back into sadness or even suidcidal.. with a snap of a finger.. it sucks balls... dun hel pthat for some reason.. eating cooked meat.. makes my stomach churn in disgust....
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Man Aspergers is fun but not fun. One one hand you have higher HQ and have deep interests on the other you're socially awkward and (I'm sorry but this is true to Aspergers people and I'm trying to control it myself) the self absorption...
Still after nine years of trying I'm glad I got the diagnosis I needed
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Yeah :/
Sensory issues=annoyance nearly all the time :/
Not to talk about the other issues.
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*claps slowly* Beautifully said. I've had Social Anxiety my whole life and to hear someone say "omg i cant talk to mai crush must have social anxiety" or "social anxiety is so cute and quirky i wish i had it" I want to punch people in the face. Like, no. No, you probably don't, and it is not quirky. It is not cute to be crying in the bathroom feeling like you're going to vomit because you're sure that everyone at school hates you though you've only talked to a few of them. It is not quirky to know that it's irrational and hate yourself for being irrational but can't stop feeling that way anyway. Jeeez.Β
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That " I can't talk to my crush" thing really was dumb :/
Then, if people consider anxiety "cute and quirky" they are complete idiots.
Anxiety is nevrr cool, or cute.
I am an anxious person (but not socially anxious) and even have panik attacks that suck :/
I get anxious without a reason, I wish I didn't :/
People tend to dismiss anxiety as being "a little nervous", and don't realize that some people have it so severe that they even have troubles answering when asked a question.
If people really consider anxiety "cute", they don't know anything except the "OMG, there's the test, I am going to take an F, I am soo anxious!"
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people do that? o.O
I actually do have ADHD. though I try to act as normal as possible, & it ain't easy.
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Thank you! I'm sick of all the ADHD jokes going arounf. I have ADHD and YES I get distracted, but do a yell random stuff NO!Β
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Next time I see someone call themselves insane facetiously I will grab them and shove them into an asylum
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I think this should really be done. This way those people would stop thinking that having a mental illness is cool,
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Oh indeed. Personally, I've never really experienced a mental illness (I don't count having a "depression funk" for a couple of months TRUE depression, just me being mopey), but I damn well no it's not "fun". So anyone who says they enjoy INSANITY is bullshitting me.
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I know this feeling. It breaks my heart to hear kids as young as 6 use our diagnoses as slang or cure words. Some use it as excuses and other like you mentioned uses it to stand out. It may seem interesting to them, but to us who have a diagnose, it's not a walk in the park. I have Autism with some DAMP and AD/HD. Beacuse I don't act like the steriotype that they have of me, I'm being laughed at and even redicueld. It's sad.
Even if it was a cure I wouldn't take it. Not only because I don't think of my diagnoses that way, but because my diagnoses are a part of who I am.
It angers me how ligthly some folks use the diagnoses to higher their status.
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I don't know if I'd cure myself or not.
But i know I'd certainly like to get rid of sensory issues. I hate them. They give me such an hard time.
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Yeah, the overstimulations is a pain in the neck. If you are more sensitive then the norm doesn't help either.
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As someone who's bipolar and has BPD (borderline), and as the parent of an autistic (not Asperger's, full-blown autistic) kid, I kind of agree that "showing off" a diagnosis is in bad taste. Advocacy is different than looking for sympathy. And yet, at the same time, I think people who "don't fit" in are looking for a "label" to make them "belong" somewhere. And for people who's daily lives are severely impaired -- like my son, for whom language is severely limited, and for people with mental illness who are so stricken that they can no longer support themselves -- the label is what opens the door to services and assistance. It is frustrating, however, when people throw terms around without official diagnosis. Mental illness and atypical learning/socialization patterns are NOT easy to diagnose or treat, and should never be done without extensive observation by professionals. It took years for both myself and my son to be diagnosed. The diagnoses have given me the proper medication and therapy to improve my life dramatically, and have allowed me to acquire disability services for my son. Neither of us would be functioning well without our labels, but we don't throw them in other peoples' faces, either.
As for the pride/shame... Stigma exists. My professional career suffered HUGELY when I was diagnosed with a mental illness. Mind you, people were happy enough to work with me when I was off-the-wall and untreated, but as soon as I had a LABEL, I was treated like I was contagious and dangerous. I have accepted my disabilities, but I don't speak often of them outside safe or anonymous places. It's hard not to feel a certain amount of shame when so many people are ashamed of you. And it's hard not to feel a little proud when you overcome huge obstacles to be productive again.
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I agree.
I have a brotother with severe autism, and he can't talk and can't live on his own.
When he was a child there wasn't much therapy for those with autism, and no one has ever managed to help him with his issues.
I am lucky because I don't have a severe disorder (I am diagnosed with AS, ADHD and ODD), also my father has many AS and ADHD traits (he was never diagnosed with one of those though; he was only diagnosed with ODD and schizoid features as a young adult because at the time the AS diagnosis wasn't avaiable).
They say that people with AS are more likely to have children with AS or full-blown autism.
This is why I'd rather adopt children than give birth to some myself. I fear that my child could have severe autism and feel bad because of it.
I don't really see what's the point in looking for a label when someone doesn't simply "fit in".
Disorders are supposed to cause impairment in everyday life even when they're mild; it's not that you can't just "fit in".
And yes, I know that diagnoses can get you some help. After my mother was diagnosed with depression she got the help she needed; no one was there for here before.
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I hate this. Somehow, it's become 'cool' to be depressed or have autism. In reality, those people don't even know what it's really like. Something that bugs me a TON is when people say, "Omg I'm so obsessed with..." you get the idea. Words like 'obsessed' and 'depressed' should only be used when they're actually describing or being said by someone who has OCD or depression (or another disorder like that.). Everyone in my dA community is 'depressed' except for a few people, and it annoys me so much. I don't have depression, but I know that it's a lot worse than these people are describing it to be. I have Asperger's, and I try not to draw attention to myself. The reality is that obsession is something you can't get away from. You think about it every single day. It controls your life. People say they're 'obsessed' when they're nowhere near it.
UGHHH. Sorry about the rant, but I have strong opinions. XD
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Don't worry bro, I agree with you completely.
My mother has depression (the real depression, not the "emo-like person" fad), she feels like dying inside, and still she gets up everyday and takes care of my brother, who has severe autism.
I have AS too, and I don't think that people who say "lol, I'm so obsessed" get that the rituals I must do every day are not controlled by me, but it's them controlling me. I can't stop doing those rituals because if I don't do them I get extremely anxious and have panic attacks.
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I hate it when people pretend to have depression. I don't have it, so I don't know what it's really like, but it must be horrible for your mom. Yes, I'm upset sometimes, but everyone is. People take those upset times as depression, and it gets way out of hand.
Exactly. Nobody understands how much I'd freak out if my schedule was interrupted or something. I hate it so much. Ugh.
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Yeah.
Asperger's is not the worst disorder out there but some of its symptoms really suck, sensory issues are the worst for me.
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Definitely. You're right, some things are much worse, but the things do suck... the anxiety and obsessions are worst for me.
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Thank you for this stamp. I applaud you madam.
I think maybe kids say they have mental disorders in order to seem "edgy" or interesting. But what they don't realize is that being an idiot is not a mental disorder.
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Lol! "...being an idiot is not a mental disorder." Well said.
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I agree.
I don't know how this "mental disorders are edgy!1!1!!" fad has born, but it really sucks. It's stealing credibility away from those who actually have disorders and should be helped.
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Exactly!! This is a perfect stamp. It makes me so angry when people are perfectionists or something like that and they say "I'm so OCD"... they have no fucking idea what it's like. No. Fucking. Idea.
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Many people think that OCD is only "being a huge perfectionist".
They don't know that OCD also include repetitive bad thoughts and extreme anxiety. I heard that some people with it cannot even leave the house without having a panick attack.
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How do repetitive bad thoughts work? Is it something like compulsive brooding when not busy with anything, sometimes even intrusive or something more weird?
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I think it is different for everyone, but this is how it works for me.
I have in my mind the idea of something bad happening (me getting severely physically disabled, people I care about dying, or other horrible shit) and I have to do something to contrast that with my rituals. Even if I try not to do it I always have the thought that the bad thing will happen and it will be all my fault because I haven't done my rituals to prevent it from happening. I know this all is irrational, but I just get too anxious and have panic attacks if I don't do anything.
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I see.
I usually have obsessive thoughts about ideological enemies and various problems and threats. For example I go on a walk or to work and think about what to reply to someone or what to tell someone or about some injustice. I usually have to drown it out with a flood of sensations and information, like browsing internets or talking with someone or something like that. Otherwise it goes on and on and on...
It started when I was mobbed in the end of primary school. I was lying in the bed during night trying to sleep but the sleep wouldn't come, there would only constantly be thoughts about the enemy threat, how to deal with it, intrusive memories, etc. Rage and anxiety.
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