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Description Now don't get me wrong, i love Dr. Eggman, however if its a choice who i like more between Eggman and Robotnik (Aosth or SatAm and even Underground), then i pretty much HATE Dr. Eggman! XD

Robotnik has got to be my most Favorite Video Game/Cartoon Villain ever! Dr. Eggman is kinda cool for trying to upgrade the "classic eggman/robotnik" design, but he should have never replaced the True Dr. Julian Ivo Robtnik!

All Eggman seems to be reduced to at the end of most of the newer sonic games, is realizing that there is an even bigger threat to the world compared to him, and then helps sonic defeat it, and usually its his own Fault that more powerful threat even exists to begin with! XP I.E. :
-Sonic Adventure
-Sonic Adventure 2 battle
-Sonic Heroes
-Shadow the Hedgehog (partially, since he didn't create black shadow the Alien)
-Sonic Unleashed (he caused the "bigger threat" but didn't actually help sonic stop it! XP )

and that's all i can think of for now! Anyway, I'd like to know just who out there likes Robotnik more and who likes Eggman more, and give a short reason! XD
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Laharl234 In reply to ??? [2013-03-02 23:55:23 +0000 UTC]

No he's not. The Eggman of Sonic X is from Mobius and possesses even less menace than the video game version, the Eggman of the OVA is from a post-apocalyptic Earth (not Mobius) and is more intent on wiping out the opposing kingdom. The only Eggman that is exactly the same as the game is the game Eggman. Granted Sonic X is the most heavily based on him, but he's still not identical.

And I don't like this treatment of different incarnations of the character as completely different. Yes, none of them are the same as the original incarnation, but they are all versions of him. Robotnik Prime is merely an adapted version of Eggman. And Eggman of the games is the original. AND I think with Sonic 4 the Eggman of the games officially bypassed his counterparts in badassery. He conquered the cannibalized the Little Planet and turned it into the Death Egg mk. 2. He almost literally 'roboticized' an entire planet. And not just any planet, the planet that was a shining symbol of nature.

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ichigo6798 In reply to Laharl234 [2013-03-03 01:35:25 +0000 UTC]

The place where the original games take place isn't in any way related to Mobius,you gotta remember,Mobius is only Canon in the American shows,not the other stuff,and isn't in X either.And it's not that they are different,well they kinda are because they are adaptations,it's that they are different in some ways.

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Laharl234 In reply to ichigo6798 [2013-03-03 01:41:27 +0000 UTC]

I know this, and I never said Mobius was in the games. The world from Sonic X is, for all intents and purposes, Mobius. It's not named as such, no, but it's clearly conceptually inspired by the place. Sonic X isn't the game canon. In the games Eggman is from Earth, as is the rest of the gang. It's all just plain old Earth. Not 'Sonic's world', not Mobius, just Earth. Each continuity is different, but they're all based on the video games.

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ichigo6798 In reply to Laharl234 [2013-03-03 17:24:46 +0000 UTC]

Yeah,I can agree with that.

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bluetomgirl10 In reply to ??? [2012-11-25 11:35:11 +0000 UTC]

Are or were these two ever supposed to be the same person?

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CountRamsely In reply to bluetomgirl10 [2012-11-26 17:40:35 +0000 UTC]

No and not really.

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bluetomgirl10 In reply to CountRamsely [2012-11-26 21:01:47 +0000 UTC]

Wow. I never got them both, really.. I might go search them XD

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Laharl234 In reply to bluetomgirl10 [2012-12-27 10:39:58 +0000 UTC]

He's lying to you. Eggman and Robotnik are the same thing. Robotnik's just Sega of America's attempt to bastardize the character back in the early 90's. Luckily the name is as far as they felt they had to go.

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Ramioplz In reply to Laharl234 [2017-08-06 19:09:12 +0000 UTC]

what ?

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bluetomgirl10 In reply to Laharl234 [2012-12-27 21:53:07 +0000 UTC]

I thought they were the same, ty.

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CountRamsely In reply to bluetomgirl10 [2012-11-27 00:13:19 +0000 UTC]

Well If you think of it terms of Actual Real World Reality, Yeah they are supposed to be the same person, just differently styled versions. The Battle between the name Robotnik and Eggman is between Japanese Sega and American Sega. So by those standards yes they are the same. But not. XD

Now if you want to think as in the media's perspective, no they aren't the same. Though they don't completely follow the same storyline or even time line, its assumed that if they did Aosth's Robtonik would be a much earlier version of Dr. Eggman.
Dr. Eggman is actually a Doppelganger to SatAm's Dr. Robotnik from an alternate dimension who eventually ventured into SatAm's reality and took over after Julian's death. He even looked like him only Robotisized.
Later in that storyline after replacing his robotic body for this newer version he was eventually derobotisized and turned into the Current Dr. Eggman and thus changed his name to suit his new appearance.
Much later in the series he goes temporarily insane and in his insane rage he claimed to be all Robotnik's in one by announcing "I am Warlord Doctor Julian Ivo Eggman Robo-kintobor Mach Two!"

But personally i like to just think of him as a completely different person that Aosth or even SatAm's Robotnik. Mostly just based after his background with the comics. And i don't actually hate him, just prefer Aosth's Dr. Ivo Robotnik over all other forms the most!

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HammerHeadScott [2012-11-06 21:31:36 +0000 UTC]

Yay Robotnik! Give him the bird! XD

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Melodywapa In reply to ??? [2012-11-06 16:53:25 +0000 UTC]

I think that eggman itΒ΄s better than robotnik, but they bouth fat!! LOL

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Ask-Classic-Tails [2012-10-14 22:54:49 +0000 UTC]

I'm a fan of the Classics more. I like both, but I prefer the Classics more. AoStH's Robotnik makes me laugh my ass off, SatAM's Robotnik kinda creeped me out in the first episode with like his more Robotic-voice. SU's Robotnik made me laugh at times, and prove my point to my friend that Robotnik's a better bad guy than Eggman. Robotnik took over the world in SatAM and SU. Eggman's NEVER taken over the world..

I rest my case. XD.

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stevemacqwark [2012-10-07 22:28:39 +0000 UTC]

I like both. Eggman gives that little bitch Chris Thorndyke a good verbal smackdown. As for Rrrrrobotik... well, pingas!

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classicsonicawesome [2012-09-08 05:11:13 +0000 UTC]

Actually, the guy you drew isn't Julian Robotnik, it's AoStH Ivo Robotnik. Julian is that guy with the cape, the robotic arm, and glowing eyes. Eggman's real name is Ivo Robotnik. I personally like Eggman(Ivo Robotnik) best, SatAM Robotnik isn't the scientist he should be and he's lazy.

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CountRamsely In reply to classicsonicawesome [2012-09-08 07:50:52 +0000 UTC]

Trust me, i know my Robotniks. XP And Aosth, very well.

I only added in "Julian" because i like to think that both Aosth's Robotnik and SatAm's Robotnik should really be the same guy, and both are more Real villains worthy of being Deemed "Robotnik" where as Eggman isn't entirely a True "Robotnik", just Eggman.

And for the record, both Aosth and SatAm Robotnik have capes, i just generally tend not to draw Aosth's robotnik with his cause he rarely seems to actually have it on.

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classicsonicawesome In reply to CountRamsely [2012-09-08 14:57:49 +0000 UTC]

Eggman(Robotnik) is that guy from the classics to today's games. I really don't like calling him Eggman, I just call him Robotnik. For what I know, AoStH and SatAM Robotnik are really different, one is silly the other is actually evil but both are great.

Oh, I don't remember AoStH Robotnik wearing a cape, I haven't seen it in a while(or atleast the episodes where he does wear a cape.)

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Ramioplz In reply to classicsonicawesome [2017-08-06 19:09:39 +0000 UTC]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z2onG…

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Wario-Girl In reply to ??? [2012-09-07 17:54:47 +0000 UTC]

I love you for this!! XD

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CountRamsely In reply to Wario-Girl [2012-09-08 07:51:16 +0000 UTC]

this pleases me!

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Wario-Girl In reply to CountRamsely [2012-09-08 20:16:21 +0000 UTC]

Yes! ROBOTNIK APPROVED! 8D

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CountRamsely In reply to Wario-Girl [2012-09-20 23:30:52 +0000 UTC]

"You are correct!"

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Wario-Girl In reply to CountRamsely [2012-09-21 20:43:36 +0000 UTC]

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CountRamsely In reply to Wario-Girl [2012-09-23 09:14:25 +0000 UTC]

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Wario-Girl In reply to CountRamsely [2012-09-24 00:48:53 +0000 UTC]

I need to watch that cartoon again

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CountRamsely In reply to Wario-Girl [2012-09-24 23:41:28 +0000 UTC]

Hell yes its the best!


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Wario-Girl In reply to CountRamsely [2012-09-25 18:23:57 +0000 UTC]

Dude, you make my day every day! XD

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CountRamsely In reply to Wario-Girl [2012-09-28 22:44:19 +0000 UTC]

Why thank you, I'm glad to hear it! X3

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Wario-Girl In reply to CountRamsely [2012-10-01 20:54:44 +0000 UTC]

Plus, you have a wicked beard and hair 8D Remind me of the lead singer of Korn 8D

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CountRamsely In reply to Wario-Girl [2012-10-05 20:26:47 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! XD Thats the first time anyone's compared me to John Davis. XD

I've been told i kinda look like Gene Simmons and even a few times like the Wrestler Then under Taker(probably cause in those cases i was wearing a long black coat and wide brim black hat XD)

But yeah, i personally don't think i too much like any of them but at least they are cool people that I've been compared to, so no complaints. XD

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Wario-Girl In reply to CountRamsely [2012-10-05 22:39:08 +0000 UTC]

No worries! People have a good point with Undertaker You'd make an epic undertaker 8D

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CountRamsely In reply to Wario-Girl [2012-10-05 23:17:17 +0000 UTC]

Well here's that picture i was talking about! XD Its super old from like 2008, but yeah.

[link]

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Wario-Girl In reply to CountRamsely [2012-10-06 00:18:07 +0000 UTC]

...UNDERTAKER!!! XDD Dude, I really like it though 8D

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CountRamsely In reply to Wario-Girl [2012-11-27 21:37:48 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! XD That was a cool day, just went around to a bunch of thrift stores and then Target, which is where this picture was taken! XD

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Wario-Girl In reply to CountRamsely [2012-12-02 16:22:35 +0000 UTC]

it's wicked 8D You're welcome 8D

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ComradeOj In reply to ??? [2012-07-13 05:11:50 +0000 UTC]

i have seen all the sonic x, and all the SatAm and about half of the AoSTH
and eggman is a big puss compared to robotnik (AkA robuttnik)

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OmegaRobotnik98 In reply to ??? [2012-07-12 17:56:27 +0000 UTC]

You show him Robotnik!

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Flurffy In reply to ??? [2012-07-05 22:02:17 +0000 UTC]

THIS shoulda been in Generations XD

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CountRamsely In reply to Flurffy [2012-07-06 16:56:30 +0000 UTC]

Indeed! XD It would have been way more amusing than Classic Robotnik!

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AmyRose879 In reply to ??? [2012-07-02 18:53:46 +0000 UTC]

i like eggman better.... no offence robotnik i like you too

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BriteStarRobot In reply to ??? [2012-06-12 04:48:22 +0000 UTC]

The SatAM/Underground Robotnik is my fave

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loganking In reply to ??? [2012-06-10 01:42:32 +0000 UTC]

his name is jullian ivo robotnik?

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CountRamsely In reply to loganking [2012-06-11 18:53:27 +0000 UTC]

Dr. Robotnik from Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog was named after "Classic" Dr. Robotnik from the original Sonic 1 & 2, Dr. Ivo Robotnik.

However Dr. Robotnik from Sonic the Hedgehog SatAm was named Dr. Julian Robotnik as he was also known in the Archie comics.

Dr. Eggman is of course truly known as Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik. He seems to have originally rejected his full name for the new nickname Eggman, then later changed his mind but decided to remain being called Dr. "Eggman" just to associate himself with his self established Eggman Empire.

Lastly in some comics such as Fleetway and Archie, Dr. Robotnik's real original name was backwards. In the Archie comics his Real original name was Dr. Julian Kintobor and in the Fleetway Comics his true original name was Dr. Ovi Kintobor. Both these names refer to Dr. Robotnik BEFORE he became evil.

And that should basically cover them all!

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loganking In reply to CountRamsely [2012-06-11 21:04:58 +0000 UTC]

nice

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AdvancedDefense In reply to ??? [2012-06-07 08:04:11 +0000 UTC]

The whole 'overtaken by a bigger evil' thing doesn't seem to be a case anymore, see Sonic Colors and Generations.

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CountRamsely In reply to AdvancedDefense [2012-06-07 20:24:45 +0000 UTC]

Thats good that it seems to be dying out, Dr. Eggman should be the main focus as the Sonic Villain, not some random other new minor villains that even Eggman can't deal with! XP

So, I'm for that movement if Sega is smart enough to keep that going!

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VelkanTheFoxcat In reply to ??? [2012-05-27 03:52:57 +0000 UTC]

This has brought joy to my heart. Tears are actually running down my face. Thank you for this masterpiece!

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FunnelVortex In reply to ??? [2012-04-11 22:42:36 +0000 UTC]

Eggman IS Robotnik damnit!

His name is Dr. Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik. Eggman is just a nickname.

Its still the same character.

Besides, I dont see anyone bitch about Miles "Tails" Prower.

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Immortal-Rin In reply to FunnelVortex [2012-05-24 23:54:16 +0000 UTC]

.....It's two different series' two DIFFERENT portrayed Robotniks. Julian Ivo Robotnik, is DiC's. EGGMAN was what he was originally named in JAPAN. But since America actually MADE a name for him, SEGA of Japan sort of adopted Americas name for him.

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