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Well this has certainly pissed the trolls off. :iconthundercrashshrug: I'm okay with that. I knew that it would. So what the matter trolls? U mad?
It's hilarious that some people are ACTUALLY arguing:
Paraphrased: "You cant do things that are non-canon, but I can."
They must be getting really pissed off.
Apparently I pissed of a Nazi calling themself "JessicaBlood" into "trolling" me. Haha...
They didn't understand the basic concept of multiversal theory when laid out for them... course nobody ever said nazi's were bright.
And the idiots are still letting me troll them. It's hilarious. :trollfacplz:
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.. i think my brain exploded trying to take that in.... but i get the basic idea.. xD
im going to go lay down till the smoke coming out of my ears settles down a bit..
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This is giving you a look at genetics on how some pony can have two different parents say like an earth pony and a unicorn and some how be a pegasis.
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Think you could do one on how two earth ponies can have a unicorn foal and Pegasus foal?
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I my headcanon, because regular alicorns have both magic and wings, their magic is weaker than regular unicorns' and they have badder flight abilities than regular pegasi.
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Well wouldn't that Logic be a bit flawed? twilight and princess Candace both ascended to what is know as a common Alicorn yet their Magic is superior to the common unicorn. Though there are
unicorns who could possibly come near to that which are know as type 4. which are just under type 5 magic users which are Alicorn which can range in power them selves.
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I think their spelling made my eye twitch a bit..
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I love this. Genetics are so interesting. But, this would be an interesting way to determine what type of pony a pony is based on their parents. That would be good for, say, RPs.
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This is good, really good, my only question is this, if this is the case then why aren't Alicorns a more common sight? because we've seen four (Not counting any Changlings) in the show(Celestia, Luna, Cadence and Pluto[that one in Twilight's nightmare in Lesson Zero])
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While I agree that people need to not get butthurt over Alicorn OC's, I don't know if it really needs something as complicated as Genetics to explain it. Your explanation of Multiverse was actually all you really needed to have. People make up their characters for different MLP universes. Simple as that.
I, for instance, am actually writing a fanfic that explains alicorns in a way that should be appeasing to both sides.
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I always thought that alicorns were sorta like the elves of the MLP universe in which though in many ways are similar to ponies (like elves sorta resemble humans), they are a seperate race and much more powerful magically. This is also why they are immortal in the sense that they don't seem to age, though the unicorn pony subspecies does age despite their magical affinity.
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this makes a good bit of sense, but i'm still confused thanks to what i'm being taught currently; that you can't have a certain trait that neither parent does unless it skips a generation. i can't tell if this corresponds to this or not.
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By "skipping a generation" the gene is still there, the person who posesses the gene but does not exhibit the trait is called a carrier. The gene is present, but not active.
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well, yeah, i know that much, but can two traits both be hiding under the dominant? (i asked my science teacher today but he didn't understand what i was saying ^-^")
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I'm actually surprised I understood all this. Considering the new Baby Cake genetic thing, even more.
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...kind of like how Gilgamesh was supposed to be two-thirds god? Doesn't make much sense, but then again, in Greek mythology Zeus cured his headache by sprouting Athena from his skull.
"Ow, my head!"
*le mitosis*
"All better!"
On the one hand, it seems like this might be taking things too seriously.
On the other hand, it is:
A. pretty interesting
B. much less serious than I've seen others take things
and C. just a cartoon. Now, don't get me wrong; it is a great cartoon. But still, if people want to make OCs that don't fit the canon, what's the big deal?
If I had to guess, I would think the backlash comes from the fact that Luna and Celestia are presented as the "best" of all the ponies, so to speak. Smartest, most powerful, etc., etc, and the people who see alicorn OCs automatically assume that the creator is going to make their character a Mary Sue with the same traits.
And now I'm the one overthinking things. Funny how that goes, isn't it?
Also, where'd you get Timey Wimey as Dinky's dad?
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Actually yeah, I did make this in response to people thinking that creators of alicorn OCs are always makeing them as powerful as Celestia and Luna and calling any alicorn oc a mary sue just from seeing them.
Timey Wimey being Dinky's dad came from putting the Dinky+derpy relationship and the Derpy+Doctor relationships together. Plus it was at the time I made this the only set of relationships in the fandom that could be used for this.
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Well, I'd be lying if I said I hadn't had similar thoughts before, but I'm learning better. Just so long as the story or character is well-done.
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You are such win! Ponies and science? Brohoof! /)*
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Argh! I can't do the little pony picture! Hell with it. BROHOOF! /)*
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Yeah. Me too. Just like biology class. Totally confused. Can Crash explain in English please?
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Yep. I wouldn't know either.
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Fun fact: THIS IS CANON THANKS TO THE BABY CAKES EPISODE~
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Is this genetic theory actually scientifically valid, or are you just trolling and making up your won genetic theory to support your idea?
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i'm so glad you did this, i've been working on a theory of pony genetics myself and this has been quite insightful
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I believe in alicorns and that they can be. Always will. I have OCs, Needlepoint and Violet Seed, who are both alicorns. Needlepoint can fly quite a bit, but he can't do voluntary magic more than manipulating objects. Violet Seed is the opposite; can only fly a few inches off the ground, can shoot a hurricane at her brother.
The Derpy + Doctor = Dinky is to me. It finally makes sense! Plus, it reminds me of a book I wrote in which animal hybrids exist: if a cat hybrid fornicated with a hedgehog hybrid, the offspring would most likely be some third option you get from mixing the two. The only way to get a purebred cat or hedgehog hybrid would be either from sheer luck (1 in 1000, I think) or by finding another hybrid of the same species. The only reason they can fornicate with each other is because all hybrids have human in them.
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This is strangely fascinating...
time to put on a monocle and a top hat and act fascinated.
"Fascinating, my dear old chap."
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The whole genetics thing explains the difference between alicorns and pegacorns.
Alicorn Genetics: 1/3 each.
Pegacorn Genetics: Better chances of having a unicorn or Pegasus, chance of Earth Pony depends on traits.
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Alicorn comes from latin "ala" meaning wing and "cornus" meaning horn. Latin for "swift" is alipes which literally means "wing foot". This shows how the word wing in latin conjigates when combining other words. So alicorn literally means "Wing horn" thus being perfect for what an alicorn is.
Pegacorn is a rather lazy combining of "pegasus" and "unicorn" portementau tocreate a name for an alicorn.
Pegasus is originally a proper name for an individual being rather than a species. It also comes from latin "pege" meaning "spring" or "fountain" and "asos" meainging "birth/born" or "origin". so it litterally means "Fountain born".
Pegacorn would mean "Fountain horn"...
Which, is really rather silly, for anything that doesn't shoot water out of it's horn.
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Hmm...water-related powers could be a trait of Pegacorns...
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It seems to be more related to pegasai with the cloud manipulation and making snowflakes. And of course regular unicorns who's special talent would be related to water.
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Alicorns are only common in the OC world because people don't...
1. Understand what alicorns are in the My Little Pony Friendship is Magic universe. They're princesses, goddesses, super rare and special, and are only reserved for super de dooper royalty like monarchs.
2. They're just egotistical or want to be "cool"
3. They just like spitting in the official Friendship is Magic universe and do what they want regardless of the rules of this universe.
Unfortunately, many alicorns that i've met are... how do I put this nicely... "deviantfags". Meaning that they're young and are usually emo self righteous foals. I am sorry, its just what i've come across.
Are all alicorns so unpleasant? No, but I haven't come across an alicron in the community that I have been able to become internet buddies with, and trust me, i've tried.
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What about Cherry Bloom? Nothing emo about her. Though Cherry Bloom is rather young as she is a foal.
1.) Habro released a commerical announcing that Celestia was the only pony with a pegasus's wings and a unicorn's horn. So even hasbro doesn't know what they're talking about with their own work.
3.) You mean like the grand majority of the fandom does? One could argue that anything non-canon is ignoring the canon. Things like the fan made lives of the background ponies, ignore who the characters actually are. Lyra has revealed to be "Heartstrings" and the fans spit on that andpersist in calling her Lyra. Noteworthy, golden harvest... And then there's the shipping. None of the ponies other than Rarity and the parents have indicated any form of preference either direction. If Fluttershy likes girls then any hetero pairing is ignoring what her character really is, the reverse is also true, if she likes guys then any homosexual pairing is also ignoring her character. And yet you'll find that a lot of the fandom has already made decisions about who to pair the ponies off with. So is the majority of the fandom spitting on the fandom then?
Or for that matter any oc that doesn't exist in canon is ignoring the fact that the characters don't exist?
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1) I don't know your OC
2) OC is the way to go, you can take cannon and adapt that, but you have to keep it separate. Shipping between OCs and cannon characters seems blasphemous to me, but that's probably just me being elitist.
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2.) Actually I've done a bit of reflection recently. And have decided you much like others in the fandom make rules that have no canon grounds for support and actually goes against them. Alicorns in canon being goddesses is based on human world perceptions and not canon fact. If the canon ones are gods, they're really rather unimpressive ones. Nightmare Moon seemed only to have illusion and shapeshifting abilities. and each of her rather lack luster attempts to stop the mane six was thwarted weach time essentially by a single pony. She tried breaking the cliff, by going directly into it rather than just blasting it. She tried to scare away the mane 6 with scary faces on the trees that didn't even move, rather than animating them. She stuck herself into a manticore's paw rather than mind controlling it. she upset a sea serpent by cutting off its mustache. She tried to talk RD into not doing something, again rather than doing anything else, like blasting Rainbow Dash, turning into a monsterous beast or .. pretty much anything else that would have had a greater chance at stopping them. Even Trixie did a better job. She tied Applejack up and made Rainbow Dash dizzy and zapped her. Not very impressive. Then there's Cadence, who didn't do anything as far as magic goes that we didn't see a unicorn doing. Her Love spell was similar to Twilight's "Want it need it" and Shining Armor's sheild spell even though he was being fed upon by Chrysalis. And then there's Celestia and Luna. Who again don't seem to really accomplish anything onscreen. The bringing forth the day and the night was mentioned to be something that regular unicorns did before in the play. And I won't really buy anything about the play being a legend or anything since all other legends shown in the show turn out to be true. The Mare in the Moon, the sonic rainboom, the alicorn amulet and so on. Fluttershy invoking Celestia's name doesn't really indicate that Celestia is actually a goddess as worshiping something doesn't make it a god. The "they're rare"/"There is only three of them" is a logical fallacy that was debunked once before when it was "There's only two" when Cadance showed up. There's technically 5 hasbro created g4 alicorns. Two haven't shown up in the show, but Hasbro DID create them. and the "If we haven't seen it, it doesn't exist" Line of thinking is outright ridiculous as we see things that we hadn't before all the time. Like Babs Seed, Shining Armor, Chrysalis, Discord, Cadence, King Sombra and pretty much anything else that turns up later on.
Given how illogical, frequently debunked, based on faulty perception any of the rules are, where on earth does anyone get off making up such absurd rules that constantly goagainst/break/ignore Hasbro's decisions?
I don't actually have any ships between one of my OCs and a canon. I had one once when I thought the canon deserved more love, but once an episode came out that showed them getting attention and brought about more love for them in the fandom I switched to having that OC paired with another OC. But seriously think about what you just said. The idea is "blasphemous"? You are aware that that means that it violate religous sanctity, don't you? Isn't that a bit self-rightous? Which again makes me ask, who are YOU to decide what is and isn't okay? Do you work for Hasbro? On what grounds or authority are you able to elivate yourself above others to dictate what they cannot do? "Elitist" is a bit of an understatement if what others do that have no actual effect on you or the show is blasphemous to you..
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Wow. That was a long rant. And ya, I work for Hasbro, i'm an intern.
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You don't actually expect me to believe that in the slightest do you?
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I think your efforts at explaining genetics in a cartoon impressive, I certainly don't have the patience for it. The only thing is, I have a question for you. This isn't a troll, and it's not meant to start an argument or anything. I just want to know, what exactly is it that you are explaining here? Are you telling us that this is how you would justify an alicorn in your own fandom universe, or are you saying this is how it works in the cartoon, and that because of this explanation alicorns other than the two princesses fit in canon universe?
Only asking because I see a lot of arguments in these comments stemming from this misunderstanding. in terms of justifying your own fandom this is very well thought out and articulated, but if you are justifying alicorns in canon, then there isn't really enough facts to base this off of no matter how detailed it is.
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Well, no matter how close to canon any fan work comes it will never be part of the canon universe unless adopted by the makers of the show, ala derpy. That being said this is a defense of any OC alicorn in their own respective fan universes, be they mine or others.
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lol that makes more sense. With my fanfictions, I probably screw over canon in shows/games a lot more than alicorns ever would in MIP. That's the joy of fandom, isn't it? Having fun with the story in our own ways, tweaking this and that, saying "well what if THIS was different? How would things change?" Ha ha, I don't think it'll ever stop amusing me.
Personally I'm not big on Alicorn ocs but meh, my pony oc is really unusually tall, completely black, with large wings that remind some ponies of nightmare moon, and still is looking for her cutie mark. Who am I to say what is plausible and what isn't? In fact by the reasoning of why alicorns shouldn't exist (there's only two examples who are both goddesses) then a cutie mark-less pony of roughly mane cast's age would be even more implausible because NO ONE in the show is that old without their mark.
Off topic, I know. I guess I'm just trying to say: Keep on exploring ^^, imagination is limitless
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Exactly. And this deviation is more or less just a reason to do something that people should do anyway,
"Let other fans do what they want. It doesn't effect you or canon, so you shouldn't feel threatened by what they're doing."
You can also use this explination combined with the first part to justify pretty much any sort of mutation in the ponies you want. Yours included for anything that doesn't appear in the show. Like looking similar to nightmare moon. I think its fine for you to do that.
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