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Published: 2015-01-01 15:58:18 +0000 UTC; Views: 12503; Favourites: 234; Downloads: 160
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According to fans of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic the show is beginning to stagnate, with character development at a minimum and storylines repeating the same tired concepts. These fans provided me their thoughts and feelings about what improvements must be made to the show going forward to keep it engaging.Are you bored by MLP: FiM?
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Comments: 130
Typical-Trinity [2017-01-19 12:31:05 +0000 UTC]
dude stop all this i dont like it hasbro has every right to do what the want
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Tuxedo-Guy2 [2016-01-31 05:04:46 +0000 UTC]
I think the show is fine; season 5 felt more fan service-laden than usual, but I guess that's because of the 100th episode. However, there are two things that could be improved:
1. Treatment of male characters, primarily Spike: I find male characters to be either treated poorly or underused way too much... primarily Spike.
2. Story quality: the stories always seem to play it safe; it barely does anything ambitious.
We'll see how season 6 handles it.
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LavalLion121 In reply to Tuxedo-Guy2 [2016-08-19 13:00:43 +0000 UTC]
Hey don't forget Big Macintosh.
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Tuxedo-Guy2 In reply to LavalLion121 [2016-08-19 16:27:34 +0000 UTC]
True... he was more involved... finally...
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kittylove456 [2015-12-26 05:53:00 +0000 UTC]
Older men and women demanding more stuff for their age group in a show for younger crouds? Go watch something else!
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LavalLion121 In reply to kittylove456 [2016-08-19 13:02:33 +0000 UTC]
Fuck of Dumb ass we're at least like two thirds of the people who watch this show.
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kittylove456 In reply to LavalLion121 [2016-08-19 18:33:21 +0000 UTC]
Wait, when did I say that? It seems odd for me to act like that because I'm a fan of mlp too. I'm not an adult though. Bronies can watch mlp. In fact I think it's cool that they've created their own fandom. But I hate seeing arguments over a show about colorful ponies. Or porn fanart. Keep in mind 8 year olds are going to look up "twilight sparkle coloring pages" and find.........well.....we best not mention it.
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Keiichi72 [2015-11-20 18:43:10 +0000 UTC]
I enjoy the show for what it is, and I understand that no matter how much I may wish it; I could never do what they've done with the show every episode.
I can't voice act, animate, write, or even determine if the final product is good enough to air or not.
I'm at their whim and I place my entertainment into their hands; anyone who thinks they have a say in what the show should and shouldn't do needs a reality check.
Tbh I do have moments where I see things that I think could've been done better, and for me the newest EG movie outright sucked; but I still recognize that if I try to do anything about it I'll be nothing more than a child complaining he got the wrong toy for christmas, when I should just be grateful I got a toy in the first place.
Live with what you get; that's the bottom line of my statement on here, (literally).
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MysticSunrise87 [2015-10-14 03:29:54 +0000 UTC]
You know what i say to those asswipes: what the fuck do you know? This is still a kids show. Its not meant for our age-group. And they sure as hell wont change it for us. Dont like it? Fuck off.
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Seiya-Meteorite [2015-09-04 03:05:46 +0000 UTC]
This show is honestly doing FINE in my opinion, and doesn't need to improve, in fact, I think it's getting better as it goes along; there has been some character development here in season 5 from what I've noticed. But that is just my opinion.
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DarkRaider2012 [2015-06-20 02:59:28 +0000 UTC]
here's an idea for another topic: what the FANDOM needs to improve:
1) WATCH the show for entertainment, NOT for obligation just to write a stupid review
2) STOP being so overly dramatic about any trivial changes that happens
3) STOP being fanboys of ''season 1 was fantastic'' because it was NOT
4) STOP using MLP as a means for arguments, this is a cartoon for crying out loud!
5) DON'T be a dick to others if they do NOT agree with others' opinions
6) STOP ruining others' enjoyment of the show who STILL have it
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TheSonicChaotix In reply to DarkRaider2012 [2015-09-07 22:04:54 +0000 UTC]
THIS.
I am taking a screencap of this comment.
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GamerDawson In reply to DarkRaider2012 [2015-07-05 22:14:56 +0000 UTC]
Yes, I agree with ya.
1 is very true, sick of seeing "F- REVIEW ON THIS EPISODE KJFABGJGHLAGHLAKGNL"
2 is also true.
3 reminds me of Pokemon fans that only play Gen 1. "Gen 1 iz best gen" TRY ANOTHER GAME IN THE SERIES!!!
4 every fandom needs to improve on, too.
5 is true.
6 is like 4.
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rick-rolld [2015-05-25 04:05:49 +0000 UTC]
Did you edit the article?
Anyway, I must agree. What made me a fan back in november 2010 was that the characters had development to some extend. The show wasn't as expected back in the day. We had colorful ponies in not-so-sissy situations, actually changing over time.
Nowadays characters seem static.
Is not that having a character play its role is a bad thing, but these ponies have literally changed in nothing at all.
We see them doing the same things in similar settings over and over again.
As redundant as it might sound, I would like to say that there's some sort of flanderization on the mane 6.
We have a simply random pinkie pie, instead of her former quirky but not crazy self.
Rainbow Dash seems to have forgot her lesson from the Mare do-well episode, and is merely an eternal show off which by some reason has said not a single word about the wonderbolts academy, as if it had never happened.
Apparently only twilight has changed, and far too little for the big responsabilities she has got over the last 2 seasons.
I myself think that the show itself could simply be cancelled. There's nothing new to it except for the artistic improvement.
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Redfields [2015-05-25 00:50:13 +0000 UTC]
The show is clealry improving. More world building of Equestria(cutie map), more developing of existing characters (Discord became a focused character like Spike and Mane6) and more satisfying villains (Tirek in a fight or Starlight Glimmer as a mastermind), We just need to solve the existing plotpoints (CMC getting cutie mark, Dash becoming Wonderbolt etc) and replace them with something fresh.
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TheSonicChaotix In reply to Redfields [2015-09-07 22:05:12 +0000 UTC]
This. This is what's right.
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Music-S-Brush [2015-05-04 18:16:35 +0000 UTC]
I loved the show when it was young, now I'm growing less pleased with what's being given to us. The first episodes were like any other major event, first upsetting me than ending happily. Applebloom's nightmare was just no good, for me. I only felt sorry for Rainbow Dash and Tank in "tanks for the memories". This past episode was better, but still lacked something. They seam to be more focused on the Apple's and CMC's more than anything at this point.
Point is, I'm growing less and less interested in MLP as they're going on. I think they either need to replace the main group before the show dies or they need to go back to how they were doing things before Twilight was forced to be a princess.
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MyLittlePrimo [2015-01-18 23:22:51 +0000 UTC]
Nice article. Except there's one thing here I question: Keep Calm and Flutter On made its share of mistakes, but I don't see recycled plot as one of them.
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SubjectBubblegum [2015-01-05 20:41:32 +0000 UTC]
There are bronies who actually criticise their sacred show?
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Cuddlepug In reply to SubjectBubblegum [2015-01-05 21:42:02 +0000 UTC]
No idea! Go and ask one!
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HappyDoomsday [2015-01-05 00:41:00 +0000 UTC]
I would like to add after reading this again that if MLP:FiM should continue even past the fifth season and onward to the upcoming movie, taking risks would be something that could keep a show fresh with the status quo it has. Comparing to another long-running show such as The Simpsons, MLP has set a standard for character developments over time rather than quirky shifts in character tone. While The Simpsons was never REALLY a show that is known for making long-term developments, outside of a few of the changes made to Lisa in 'Lisa the Vegetarian' and 'She of Little Faith,' it impresses me how long the show has gone while mostly putting out fresh one-shot episodes. I stand in the unpopular opinion that I still enjoy the Simpsons despite the quality drop since the golden age. While MLP will probably never achieve 560+ episodes and counting, it needs to make sure that if it is going to stick around, it needs to prove that it can take risks in developing its characters.
Secondly, if the writers need a refresher, then McCarthy in my opinion should step down as the lead writer. As I mentioned before, she seems more invested in pleasing the fans with cameo appearances and the seemingly sole focus on Twilight. The EqG movies are filled to the brim with fan-service, seemingly to keep the Bronies' attention, while not taking much care of the writing, which are the movies' fatal flaw. I'm not saying that I think Faust would make the situation any better had she stayed behind, but somebody else needs to go back and realize that the show needs start branching out outside of the main character, because Twilight could go into the territory of a Mary Sue like I had once feared back when Alicorn Twilight was first revealed.
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sevenofeleven [2015-01-04 13:33:53 +0000 UTC]
Good article.
Here's to hopefully another interesting season!
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rick-rolld [2015-01-03 07:28:52 +0000 UTC]
Quite interesting, you really caught my attention with this one.
And I really enjoyed reading this article.
I agree in many things, season 4 felt a tad too lazy. A couple episodes were really good, but for the most part they were far bellow the bar they had set with the first 2 seasons.
I must state, though, that I liked season 3 better than season 4... I guess it was because season 3 was shorter and although they over-did the fan service, there was a bit more character development and a better "Good episode vs Mediocre episode" ratio (due the length of the season as stated before).
I have put my expectations to the bottom for season 5, I expect a lot of failure through the entire season, so it will be hard to disappoint me.
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Animewolfgamer [2015-01-02 22:15:59 +0000 UTC]
Season 4 while is a great season, yes it needs to do more risk but however I want those risk to matter and be enjoyable for everybody weather they are kids or adult. Its always and will be a great well crafted cartoon for girls and it should stay with how it manage to keep its tone and mature themes. I do hate how some fans beg for dark when it really would kill the show in some way and the first time I really face palm to this is when over the barrel came out and people ask for a accurate reputation of the settlers and Indians which I ask do you want to traumatize the children like that? I'm all go on getting kids to know this now but it has to be done within its rating and not be in their faces.
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Cuddlepug In reply to Animewolfgamer [2015-01-02 22:19:04 +0000 UTC]
"Set sail, for a land of adventure!"
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Animewolfgamer In reply to Cuddlepug [2015-01-02 22:19:56 +0000 UTC]
to another great season ahoy XD
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Pink-Mist10 [2015-01-02 21:46:42 +0000 UTC]
I agree with the point that only Twilight seems to be going through major development. She's the only one in the group going through a major change and has even gained a new role. However the others are still ascending towards their true roles in life. Sure AJ can stay with her family and the farm forever, but other characters really need to progress a little more.
Dash has been getting closer and closer to joining the Wonderbolts especially during Seasons 3 and 4. But when we only got one episode in each of those seasons where she progressed, we're not really getting further ahead at a good pace. I know Twilight is the main focus of the show because she's the leader of the group, the princess, the one with the answers and connections to Celestia, but we also need to focus a little more on her friends. That's all
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Cuddlepug In reply to Pink-Mist10 [2015-01-02 22:17:42 +0000 UTC]
Are you optimistic for the future?
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Pink-Mist10 In reply to Cuddlepug [2015-01-03 06:05:14 +0000 UTC]
I'm hoping that things will turn out for the better, and that HOPEFULLY Season 5 will finally bring even more development for the other Mane 5
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Grump-Support In reply to Cuddlepug [2015-01-02 21:31:17 +0000 UTC]
Just this explanation. It's basically everything I have been trying to express to people and just utterly failed.
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Cuddlepug In reply to Grump-Support [2015-01-02 21:32:30 +0000 UTC]
Don't thank me, thank Calvin from Dallas, Texas!
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AFtwi [2015-01-02 19:51:37 +0000 UTC]
I will say that I was really bored during season 4, in fact i haven't entirely watched it yet.
It is true that season 4 really was pushing its tropes to the limit, where it was almost unbearable to watch.
And it's true that we - the fans and others that watch the show would love to see the rest of the main 6 develop as characters should.
Twilight had the most development for the reason that she was the unofficial main character, but not only because of that. Twilight really didn't and doesnt have a goal like the others from mane 6.
Also many may be afraid that if the mane 6 do achieve their goals, they would have to part ways, but people that's a PERFECT FRIENDSHIP LESSON! I don't know how about you all, but I had many experiences where I had to lose really good friends just because they changed schools or what not, which was sad. Of course I'm not saying that the mane 6 should split in that kind of fashion but it'd be nice to cover that side of friendship too.
BUT! The problem with that would be keeping the tabs on all of the mane 6 separately.
BUTBUT! That would be a great experience for the characters, writers and fans to explore this yet to be explored world a bit more.
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Cuddlepug In reply to AFtwi [2015-01-02 21:24:31 +0000 UTC]
I don't see how achieving goals would instantly make the characters split up. I saw this slippery slope argument at the end of Season 3 a lot when Twilight Sparkle first became a princess.
"Now she won't be able to stay in Ponyville!" I'd see all over the place, which was an assumption based on nothing that didn't end up being the case.
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TheSpectral-Wolf [2015-01-02 13:26:25 +0000 UTC]
As much as I agree with several things written here, I believe that we must not forget something about the show:
While it is a cartoon with a rather good quality, it is also just a buch of 20-something minute commerials made to sell merchandise.
I became a fan of the show in 2011, and even though I have been more or less avoiding the fandom, (I do not lie, my art is made for my own entertainment) I've seen enough of it to conclude that bronies are helplessly trying to convince themselves that the show is for them and therefore they have the right to interfere with it. And the writers aren't helping either, with giving so much recognition for them. I'm not saying that putting Derpy in the Last Roundup was bad, I myself was suprised when I saw that scene.. But we all know what happened afterwards. Even season 4 had such an unnecesarry amount of fanservice that it became ridiculus. I remember, when I watched Rainbow Rocks with my dad (he likes the show, but he only saw a few episodes), even if we didn't discuss it, I felt that he probably didn't understand a thing during the "fanservice-scenes" (like the scene when Maud appeared).
Furthermore, I don't think the writers are going to make a change. Just look at the character development: Ever since season 2 Pinkie's charater didn't become more than "the joke". Her season 1 charater was thrown into the trash, and it's remains are only taken out when an episode's focusing on her.
I guess, it's just how it goes. The show is becoming weaker and this is something that can't be avoided. Knowing that it's still A KID'S SHOW and that it'll never EVER going to get out of Hasbro's shadow, there's just no way to make big revolutions about it. Our only hope is that when it ends, it'll end with a joyful boom instead of a sad pop.
Right now, all we can do is make speculations and hope that the downfall of the show won't be as devastating as many would think.
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Cuddlepug In reply to TheSpectral-Wolf [2015-01-02 21:26:28 +0000 UTC]
I'd take the 'it's a kid's show' train of thought with a pinch of salt, if only because other 'shows for kids' have had (relatively) complex storylines.
Then again, they weren't MLP.
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TheSpectral-Wolf In reply to Cuddlepug [2015-01-10 11:47:37 +0000 UTC]
I rearead my statements and I guess I've been a bit harsh on that. What I mean is that since the target audience are children, we shouldn't put our expectations too high. Friendship is Magic doesn't need a complex story because it's main purpose is (or was I don't really know anymore) the education and entertainment of young children. And I don't think that a well constucted story would be a criteria for that. But that's just my opinion.
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Xholankha [2015-01-02 07:40:41 +0000 UTC]
Well well well, good thing to see i'm not the only one to have noticed a significant drop in the quality of the show.
However, I don't necessarily find that the episodes' "dullness" comes from repetitive storytelling and not enough character development. For example, I don't think that Rainbow Dash joining the Wonderbolts would bring anything new that "Rainbow Falls" didn't.
What I think is the main reason of the need to improve is, like many say, characters, but not especially in a context of conflict with themselves. As someone said it, it would be nice to see Pinkie actually concernee sometimes, and not screaming random things before doing something insane, or to see Rarity go back to her roots of self-sacrifice for others and will to become someone through hard work (and not just some kind of bitch who complains all the time and screams like a frightened damsel at the first time of distress: it's a part of the character, but not the only one).
Most importantly, I think Twilight needs to be worked on. It seems like being totally blank in personality comes with the princess package: she has achieved little since Season 3, and most of it involved fixing a problem she created herself, like the Flutterbat catastrophic episode.
One last thing: the show needs to stop Fan Service. This has killed Derpy to me, since there's no fun in trying to find her anymore and no real joy to actually see her. The jokes involving her never made me laugh after the second season. And I feel like they are puttinc Vinyl Scratch on the same dangerous slope.
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Cuddlepug In reply to Xholankha [2015-01-02 11:45:21 +0000 UTC]
Agreed that the amount of fan service in the episodes is killing the show a bit. It's becoming less of an earnest 'let's tell a story' show to a game of 'spot the cameo', which is cringeworthy at best.
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HappyDoomsday In reply to Cuddlepug [2015-01-02 12:52:55 +0000 UTC]
Exactly, are we watching 'MLP', or 'Where's Waldo?'
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Xholankha In reply to Cuddlepug [2015-01-02 12:38:44 +0000 UTC]
I believe it's a choice the producers made. I don't know if you hang around the hot pages of deviantArt very often, but it's easy to see that people will praise any work of art that presents something they like, which is normal, but in an awful way. Everything that works nowadays in pony-related stuff is either crossovers, shipping or open sexualization, rarely heartwarming or epic pieces like it used to be. Artists give people what they want, and what people want is to see their fantasies come true, so dark or stupid they may be.
I think the producers of MLP:FiM have understood that, and most people I've spoken with liked the 4th season, even if it was the worst to me (and obviously also you if I understood what you wrote), because of Flutterbat (which looks more like a desperate-yet successful- attempt at hooking up more the brony fanbase) or the Power Ponies (same as before).
People have spoken.
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Cuddlepug In reply to Xholankha [2015-01-02 12:57:55 +0000 UTC]
Outside of talking to people for the purpose of writing things like this I don't engage with the MLP fandom at all, so I'll take your word for it!
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ZoPteryx [2015-01-02 03:48:40 +0000 UTC]
In my humble opinion, the best thing the writers could do to revitalize the show is: a) broaden and elaborate on the MLP universe, b) focus more on family related issues (which seem to only rarely get touched on), c) more frequent episodes starring secondary characters (which can double as fan service, but in a good way), and d) give the CMC their cutie marks one at a time so as to build up an interesting dynamic between them.
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Cuddlepug In reply to ZoPteryx [2015-01-02 21:31:45 +0000 UTC]
'Fan service' and 'in a good way' cannot exist in the same sentence.
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ZoPteryx In reply to Cuddlepug [2015-01-02 21:49:41 +0000 UTC]
Sure they can, provided the fan service does not disrupt the continuity of the episode. If Rainbow Dash flies across the background wearing an "Iron Mare" outfit for no good reason, that's bad; but if we get a brief background-glimpse of a comic on her bookshelf with the title of "Iron Mare", I don't see any harm in it. It gives fans fuel to drive their creative processes without detracting from the episode.
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ZoPteryx In reply to Cuddlepug [2015-01-03 05:23:14 +0000 UTC]
Iron Mare, as opposed to the popular hero Iron Man, which wouldn't make much sense in the mlp universe. My main point was that subtle easter eggs in an episode can serve the same purpose as more blatant sorts of fan service without detracting from the continuity of the story.
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