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Description My view on abortion, my friend brought up the subject, and it inspired me to draw this.

I got some of the idea from America's Next Top Model. lol xD;; In one of their photoshoots, they did political issues, and a girl had this written on her stomach.

I used [link] as a slight ref. I changed the position a bit though.

Pro-choice all the way!

Do not use this image without my permission.
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Comments: 597

Fiktionsfragan In reply to ??? [2012-02-13 18:45:15 +0000 UTC]

Okej

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AnnutheCatGirl In reply to ??? [2012-02-09 21:14:54 +0000 UTC]

Murder - The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
It's not illegal to have an abortion thus it is not murder.

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Fiktionsfragan In reply to AnnutheCatGirl [2012-02-09 21:43:05 +0000 UTC]

That's my point. It should be illegal because it is murder.
But I see that you're trolling. Tip for next time: if you want to troll someone, don't use the troll face. You give it away then.

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AnnutheCatGirl In reply to Fiktionsfragan [2012-02-09 21:45:20 +0000 UTC]

If you believe that I bet you're against the death sentence too.

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Fiktionsfragan In reply to AnnutheCatGirl [2012-02-09 21:50:18 +0000 UTC]

I am? What's the problem with that? Don't tell me you're for it.

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AnnutheCatGirl In reply to Fiktionsfragan [2012-02-09 22:04:44 +0000 UTC]

I am for it. If i kill a man in cold blood, I want to be executed. I deserve to be executed. Same with anyone else.

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Fiktionsfragan In reply to AnnutheCatGirl [2012-02-09 22:09:32 +0000 UTC]

Okay, that's creepy. You don't believe in prisons. That's not a question because obviously you can't.

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AnnutheCatGirl In reply to Fiktionsfragan [2012-02-09 22:13:10 +0000 UTC]

So, you're saying, if a man rapes you, kills the rest of your family, has sex with their dead bodies, and then cannibalizes them, you would totally be okay with him just going to jail.

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Fiktionsfragan In reply to AnnutheCatGirl [2012-02-09 22:17:39 +0000 UTC]

I would.

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AnnutheCatGirl In reply to Fiktionsfragan [2012-02-09 22:36:44 +0000 UTC]

I think if you were ever in that position, you would feel very differently.

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Fiktionsfragan In reply to AnnutheCatGirl [2012-02-09 22:41:35 +0000 UTC]

I doubt it. I find it cruel to kill people. It'd give me no satisfaction to murder someone after that. I'd feel much better if he's inside bars.

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AnnutheCatGirl In reply to Fiktionsfragan [2012-02-09 22:44:42 +0000 UTC]

People die. It's what we do. It's unavoidable.

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Fiktionsfragan In reply to AnnutheCatGirl [2012-02-09 22:52:39 +0000 UTC]

And therefore it's okay to murder people? What's wrong with you?

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kitsumekat In reply to ??? [2012-02-09 18:43:24 +0000 UTC]

Do you realize if they made abortion illegal, women will still find a way to abort.

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Fiktionsfragan In reply to kitsumekat [2012-02-09 19:48:44 +0000 UTC]

But it'd make it much harder to do it. The government should be okay with murdering children. Just because drug users can find a way to get drugs shouldn't mean that we should allow drugs, do we?

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kitsumekat In reply to Fiktionsfragan [2012-02-09 19:58:42 +0000 UTC]

And we can't control what people do.

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Fiktionsfragan In reply to kitsumekat [2012-02-09 20:06:09 +0000 UTC]

We can control it to a certain degree. By having laws we can control people at least a bit. That's why we have laws, so people won't go around murdering and take drugs, but for some reason it's legal to abort.

You can't be serious with this argument. What are you trying to say? That we should allow abortion because they're going to do it anyway? That makes as much sense as allowing drugs, because people are going to do it anyway.

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kitsumekat In reply to Fiktionsfragan [2012-02-09 20:11:16 +0000 UTC]

The difference between drugs and abortion is you can die quicker with a back alley/ DIY abortion and become infertile than with drugs. You want to force women to have kids? You want to be valued less that a kid that has a 50% chance of existence? Shows how much you value women.

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Fiktionsfragan In reply to kitsumekat [2012-02-09 21:52:58 +0000 UTC]

If they didn't want kids in the beginning perhaps they shouldn't have had unprotected sex. And don't come to me with the rape argument. It's 1% of the abortions over here.
You die much quicker from a dirty back alley dose than from a clean dose. Therefore drugs should be legal?

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kitsumekat In reply to Fiktionsfragan [2012-02-09 22:09:54 +0000 UTC]

Why not? At least if people die it's their own fault. If you're going to keep comparing drugs to abortion, I'm going to start comparing you to westbro.

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Fiktionsfragan In reply to kitsumekat [2012-02-09 22:11:41 +0000 UTC]

What's the need for that? I make a valid argument, when that would just be random.

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kitsumekat In reply to Fiktionsfragan [2012-02-09 22:16:24 +0000 UTC]

No, you're not even trying to come up with a decent argument. Heck, have you actually researched what happens to chicks who can't get an abortion or gets on in a dangerous.

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Fiktionsfragan In reply to kitsumekat [2012-02-09 22:17:20 +0000 UTC]

What?

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kitsumekat In reply to Fiktionsfragan [2012-02-09 22:33:56 +0000 UTC]

You keep comparing apples to oranges.

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Fiktionsfragan In reply to kitsumekat [2012-02-09 22:35:09 +0000 UTC]

You keep denying facts.

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kitsumekat In reply to Fiktionsfragan [2012-02-09 22:39:54 +0000 UTC]

Of what? Causing more problems to "try" and "save" "lives" that don't even know you exist? If life is so precious, why is there a spike in war, murder, and suicides lately?

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Noxipie In reply to kitsumekat [2012-02-10 01:55:06 +0000 UTC]

she is impossible, i brought up those very points and she still doesn't get it.

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kitsumekat In reply to Noxipie [2012-02-10 01:59:03 +0000 UTC]

Excuse my language but, she's fucking difficult! Abortion isn't going to end because of some law. In fact, you can get an abortion in a lot of places now.

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Noxipie In reply to kitsumekat [2012-02-10 02:05:40 +0000 UTC]

exactly, i was going to bring up that abortion rates are higher in countries where it's illegal but she'll probably say i'm making that up

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Fiktionsfragan In reply to Noxipie [2012-02-10 04:01:51 +0000 UTC]

Please give me a source for that. If it's baseless I'll disregard your arguments as baseless nonsense.

Also, you didn't bring up any arguments. You just ranted about dimwits.

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Noxipie In reply to Fiktionsfragan [2012-02-10 07:15:17 +0000 UTC]

[link]

oh but you probably won't believe that either and i wasn't talking about dimwits i am talking about the majority of pro-lifers like you. You don't do yopur research and think your holier-than-thou and tell everyone else they don't know what they're talking about despite the fact we have ton of research to back us up and you don't


good day.

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Fiktionsfragan In reply to Noxipie [2012-02-10 11:28:37 +0000 UTC]

Did you even read the article? Or did you just see the title and thought that abortions become more common when you make them illegal? Did you read what countries they were talking about? They were talking about countries in Africa and South America where there aren't much contraceptive aids or family planning programs. You think that if we made abortion illegal in Sweden it'd suddenly become much more popular to do so?

You weren't presenting a single argument. You just attacked us and said that we're bad people. That isn't arguing, that's called ad hominem, google it.

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Noxipie In reply to Fiktionsfragan [2012-02-10 13:28:40 +0000 UTC]

i don't even think you read the article seeing as you only nitpicked what you liked about it and tried to use that as an argument

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Fiktionsfragan In reply to Noxipie [2012-02-10 14:20:12 +0000 UTC]

I read the article thoroughly. It says that the places they talk about that doesn't allow abortions are in Africa and South America. Where there are little contraceptive aid.
You, however, want to prove something with this article. What is it?

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Noxipie In reply to Fiktionsfragan [2012-02-10 15:02:55 +0000 UTC]

yes and in places where people are trying to get abortion illegal, like the US are the same people who are against contraception, jesus christ you're an idiot if you did not realize that.

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Fiktionsfragan In reply to Noxipie [2012-02-10 15:37:33 +0000 UTC]

Oh, so all people who are against abortion are against contraception? Are you stupid?

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Noxipie In reply to Fiktionsfragan [2012-02-10 22:48:42 +0000 UTC]

wow are YOU stupid? apparently you don;'t know how to read. I never said ALL people who are against abortion are against contraception, again you don't read, you nitpick what you like and use that as an argument.

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Fiktionsfragan In reply to Noxipie [2012-02-11 04:59:39 +0000 UTC]

Then what is your point? What was the point of posting that article then? What did you want to say?

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Noxipie In reply to Fiktionsfragan [2012-02-11 06:33:25 +0000 UTC]

This, everyone, is a pure and perfect example of someone who 1. doesn't read 2. when does, only skims through, picks what they like, then use that as an argument against you 3. makes assumptions because they didn't read and nitpicked 4. claims that your opinion and calling pro-lifers out on their hypocrisy is "attacking them" 5. because they are extremely illiterate and lets shit fly past their head like wind will say "what do you mean? you never brought up any points(and by them saying that you don't bring up any points or arguments, (btw folks, that's their way of saying, i don't agree with you so i'm going to put my hands over my ears like a child and say LALALALA and then say what are you talking about? what point did you make???) and 6. wants to be the victim. Thanks everyone for reading and that is the end of this conversation, I'll let this child get the last word and whatever snarky remark or insult they want to bestow upon me.

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Fiktionsfragan In reply to Noxipie [2012-02-11 08:22:11 +0000 UTC]

It doesn't seem like you read the article. It literally doesn't say that illegalizing abortions creates more abortions, but that's what you're saying. It literally says that in areas where there are less birth control, there are also more common with illegal abortions. That makes sense, because they can't use birth control, of course they're going to get pregnant more. If we applied such a law in, for example, Sweden I highly doubt that we'd get even more abortions, since we actually have birth control.

Read your fucking articles before posting them as proof next time. This one even explicitly contradicted you.

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Noxipie In reply to Noxipie [2012-02-10 07:24:21 +0000 UTC]

you're*

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kitsumekat In reply to Noxipie [2012-02-10 02:09:59 +0000 UTC]

It's true.

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Fiktionsfragan In reply to kitsumekat [2012-02-09 22:41:53 +0000 UTC]

Because people are retarded.

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kitsumekat In reply to Fiktionsfragan [2012-02-09 22:45:55 +0000 UTC]

And people die.

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Fiktionsfragan In reply to kitsumekat [2012-02-09 22:52:52 +0000 UTC]

What are you saying?

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kitsumekat In reply to Fiktionsfragan [2012-02-09 23:25:43 +0000 UTC]

People are going to die anyways.

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Fiktionsfragan In reply to kitsumekat [2012-02-09 23:32:24 +0000 UTC]

So therefore murder is okay?

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kitsumekat In reply to Fiktionsfragan [2012-02-09 23:35:00 +0000 UTC]

No.

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Fiktionsfragan In reply to kitsumekat [2012-02-09 23:43:29 +0000 UTC]

Then what are you trying to say?

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kitsumekat In reply to Fiktionsfragan [2012-02-10 00:51:10 +0000 UTC]

People are going to die regardless. They don't know you and you don't know them. Saving a child that wouldn't give two shits about your existence would be useless. Besides, We already have a fucked up foster/adoption system. Some don't even make it.

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