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A little more detailed look at Midori's URL autocomplete suggestions.Thoughts and suggestions always welcome
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Comments: 33
animpostertookmyname [2012-11-05 17:53:07 +0000 UTC]
I like the look of the floating toolbar. There should be a fullscreen mode in which there is a movable QuickTime-fullscreen-controls-style toolbar like that. It would be quite useful for presentations.
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BassUltra [2011-05-22 03:11:19 +0000 UTC]
Also I think the menus instead of being semi-transparent black with a white border it should be like this with a white opaque background and gray border. Looks much cleaner.
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BassUltra [2011-05-16 00:31:03 +0000 UTC]
Hey is the icon with the paper with the blue arrow on top in the theme yet? If so where is it and what is it called?
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DanRabbit In reply to BassUltra [2011-05-22 00:47:03 +0000 UTC]
It's not in trunk, no. It's in my rewrite branch here: [link]
It's called "document-export"
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ArkBlitz [2011-04-14 01:23:28 +0000 UTC]
You forgot the fave-icon in the search engines, but the idea is nice. Unless you use a particular search engine too often, in whose case a search-engine button (like the paste-and-go button) would be a welcome idea too.
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elyawy [2011-04-11 19:44:11 +0000 UTC]
what application are you using to create those designs, inkscape?
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DanRabbit In reply to elyawy [2011-04-13 17:36:26 +0000 UTC]
yep. I do 99% of what I do in Inkscape.
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HbrShred [2011-04-09 20:04:03 +0000 UTC]
Nice. I can't wait for Midori's UI to be revamped. The URL suggestions is one of the things really bugging me right now.
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fverdeja93 [2011-04-08 01:21:25 +0000 UTC]
midori now needs an Download Window
and i have an sugerence, why not the elementary project have some like a contract with google, like... when an user search on google using midori on elementary OS, the elementary project wins money
Realy sorry for my bad redaction, i have a bad english
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rekglast [2011-04-07 11:35:02 +0000 UTC]
I have a small suggestion: instead of listing the search engines available for use, why not put a horizontal favicon list for them, then the url bar will display the search engine's name...... or something similar...
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DanRabbit In reply to rekglast [2011-04-07 16:35:35 +0000 UTC]
What if for some reason the favicon doesn't get downloaded? And relying on mouse hover leaves out touch users :/
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rekglast In reply to DanRabbit [2011-04-09 05:06:44 +0000 UTC]
If such, display site name (like an alternate text if image doesn't render). If it will look crazy (favicons and text side-by-side), then all favicons should be replaced with text.
I just feel that the list could be further minimized by putting the "search with..." section in a horizontal list, that's the gist of it
Hovering is a non-touch goody (is this the singular for goodies?? It feels weird XD). Might as well add the popup balloon for touch users only (the one that appears when typing using a virtual keyboard (though that is only me ) so feedback is still present).
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1lj4z1 [2011-04-07 05:41:42 +0000 UTC]
it's nice, i like it. one thing i hate it's the default search engine.
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CassidyJames In reply to 1lj4z1 [2011-04-08 15:56:02 +0000 UTC]
Have you used it a bit? I *really* hated that DuckDuckGo was default, but after using it for a bit, I really like it. Their "bangs" (putting a ! before a shortcut term, like !gi for Google Images) are incredibly useful, especially for searching from the location bar.
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1lj4z1 In reply to CassidyJames [2011-04-08 17:11:40 +0000 UTC]
yes, i've been using it, i really like it, but it's slow! can't compete google.
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zeeeeee [2011-04-06 23:59:44 +0000 UTC]
hi, I just released the third version of my Elementary theme for Firefox, here:[link]
I know you don't care much for Firefox, but I have been trying to apply some of your ideas for Midoris search and url bars, hope you don't mind.
(I'm still learning though, so I can't tweak autocomplete suggestions just yet... )
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DanRabbit In reply to zeeeeee [2011-04-07 04:27:24 +0000 UTC]
Hey Cool. I think there was someone else working on an elementary Firefox theme, maybe you should team up
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zeeeeee In reply to DanRabbit [2011-04-07 08:19:49 +0000 UTC]
seahorsepip made a good simple theme, he is a very good coder, but I think he stranded a bit off the elementary essentials.
there is also shakipu who made a stylish theme, he is the reason I started to make this again.
anyway, I think I really got it the most integrated possible (you should try it, the days you get tired of Midori), now I'll try to see where it should lead, design wise, mostly the tabs.
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FarmerNick [2011-04-06 22:46:42 +0000 UTC]
I think this is very smooth. I would make sure that tucked away into the preferences somewhere there is the ability to choose how many items are displayed from each category. So If I want 5 options from my Bookmarks/Speed Dial but only 2 from my History that would be possible. Also the ability to add search engines or remove them would be great.
Also the ability to rearrange the order in which the categories are display would be a nice bonus.
Keep up the good work. MIdori looks like its coming along nicely.
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DanRabbit In reply to FarmerNick [2011-04-06 22:58:02 +0000 UTC]
You can already add and remove search engines in Midori.
That sounds like a rather exhaustive set of options for things that are more likely to be design decisions. Having too many options bloats up the code, makes it harder to test, and creates extra UI to set those options.
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jxtreme42 In reply to DanRabbit [2011-04-06 23:46:41 +0000 UTC]
+1 for making design decisions instead of bloating the prefs with options users _may_ want
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jxtreme42 [2011-04-06 22:31:34 +0000 UTC]
Don't organize the suggestions by their type (bookmark, history, etc). People think "I want the best suggestion so I can browse quickly," not "I want to see all of my history items that start with 'elem.'" That's what the history pane is for. Suggestions should be listed most-relevant first, and add a 16px light grey icon to indicate their type.
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DanRabbit In reply to jxtreme42 [2011-04-06 22:39:19 +0000 UTC]
how do you gauge relevancy?
seems odd to me to say "type isn't important" but then have an icon for type. If I'm looking for something in my history that I know I didn't bookmark I think it'd be easier to just go to the history section than to search for which entries have a history icon.
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jxtreme42 In reply to DanRabbit [2011-04-06 23:44:34 +0000 UTC]
You gauge relevancy mostly by # of visits. Also, I'd give more recently viewed history items (maybe from last 2 weeks?) a higher position over older history items. I usually don't want to see pages I last visited a year ago, usually I want to see the cool page I stumbled on last week. (You probably should a relevance system where pages get "points" for being more visited, being a bookmark, etc.)
And I'm not saying "type doesn't matter." I'm saying that it's not the most important (most of the time, but not all the time, as you mentioned). So type shouldn't be used to organize suggestionsβuse a relevance system based on the # of visits to get users to the page they want faster.
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DanRabbit In reply to jxtreme42 [2011-04-07 04:31:11 +0000 UTC]
I just figure instead of going on mystery points mode (which would be difficult to pull off properly and involved lots of guesswork and probably produce not so awesome results), it'd be much easier to sort things into categories that can help you narrow down results.
In other words, if I'm looking for a page I recently visited that I know I didn't bookmark I shouldn't be looking through bookmark results no matter how many points those results may have.
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jxtreme42 In reply to DanRabbit [2011-04-07 22:27:35 +0000 UTC]
The points would just be there to bump recent history and bookmarks up a bit. If you haven't visited a bookmark since you bookmarked it, it'd probably be at the bottom of the suggestions, if at all. The suggestion order is based _heavily_ on view #. And the points thing is something I thought up pretty quickly; it'd probably have to be altered to make it optimal.
Recently visited get higher priority on the list, plus you could just look for the history icon in the list. And I doubt you'd have more than one bookmark match if you typed more than three letters.
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Shakipu In reply to DanRabbit [2011-04-07 16:02:25 +0000 UTC]
Perhaps it's possible to make a zeitgeist integration for midori.
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gummybelly [2011-04-06 21:58:31 +0000 UTC]
icons before text would be great, but otherwise, excellent!!!
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DanRabbit In reply to aldomann [2011-04-06 21:27:52 +0000 UTC]
I don't currently have any bookmarks. But don't take it too seriously it's just a mockup! So of course if you have bookmarks there would be bookmarks suggestion.
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ArkBlitz [2011-04-06 20:43:59 +0000 UTC]
Much better. If you have spare time, a Firefox addon for this would be good too.
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