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redshirted [2015-02-26 05:16:11 +0000 UTC]

I think the one in the center is the theoretical warp 7 vessel and the one on the right is an NX refit.
Consider this, at starfleet core of engineering you have the warp seven test bed, advances in torpedo and phaser technology, new tractor beams and navigational deflectors, but all this new more powerful tech won't fit in the existing NX frame so what do you do?
The first thing the did was build a huge engineering section and sat the command module on two and then crammed in crew quarters , medical, scientific labs, and ship's mess in two half discs on either side of the engineering hull. This give you the starship in the center. It works but then unforseen problems pop up. First of all its highly inefficient to cross from one resident wing to the other or the command section an key cutting through the engineering section. Also it is hard to perform critical system servicing of major components and it start to become apparent that the ships engines can be very dangerous to crew safely if something goes wrong.
That is when you get to the NX refit design where many of the ships systems are relocated to a separate section that can be safely jettison in time of crisis.
After that is isn't much of a leap toward the deadalas class and then to the constitution class

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sae-von [2009-10-22 09:40:30 +0000 UTC]

What about the upper ship, whats its story?

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davemetlesits In reply to sae-von [2009-10-22 17:07:06 +0000 UTC]

I don't really know. Sorry

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PaladinArtea [2009-06-30 00:04:35 +0000 UTC]

For some reason, the central ship looks more advanced than the one on the right to me.

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davemetlesits In reply to PaladinArtea [2009-06-30 16:00:02 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, it has the traditional TOS look.

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Keiichi-K1 [2008-01-18 08:46:54 +0000 UTC]

I have always loved the design of the ship in the center (I am forgetting its official class name).

It makes me wonder, since the next Star Trek movie is supposed to take place when Kirk was in the academy (thus before the Constitution-class... we assume), perhaps the prominent ship class of the movie will be this one

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davemetlesits In reply to Keiichi-K1 [2008-01-18 15:47:50 +0000 UTC]

The Connie was designed when Kirk was a child. The first variant was built under the commands of Robert April, who has gone on at least one five-year mission with the Enteprise. She was passed then to Christopher Pike and than to Kirk.

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Keiichi-K1 In reply to davemetlesits [2008-01-18 20:11:28 +0000 UTC]

Oh, well, what class name is the center ship?

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davemetlesits In reply to Keiichi-K1 [2008-01-18 20:31:27 +0000 UTC]

Bonaventure

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SeiwaGenji [2007-08-12 18:59:38 +0000 UTC]

great work

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davemetlesits In reply to SeiwaGenji [2007-08-12 20:28:35 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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Promus-Kaa [2007-08-12 18:06:30 +0000 UTC]

Cool!! But if those are pre-Connies, shouldn't they have the little prongs sticking out of their "bussard collectors?"

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davemetlesits In reply to Promus-Kaa [2007-08-12 20:28:28 +0000 UTC]

Not all ships had those "nipples", I think they were warp flux regulators or subspace measurement units during some test run/shakedown cruise and not standardized equipment. Or maybe they are mission-specific add-ons.

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Promus-Kaa In reply to davemetlesits [2007-08-13 01:15:53 +0000 UTC]

Well, it depends on which canon you go by; the original canon, or the "new canon" which has since overridden and voided the original canon. Personally, I strongly believe in sticking to the source material...so I go by the original canon.

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davemetlesits In reply to Promus-Kaa [2007-08-13 10:13:11 +0000 UTC]

My vote goes for ENT, the new Trek for the 21st century

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Promus-Kaa In reply to davemetlesits [2007-08-13 15:31:41 +0000 UTC]

Well, I've already said how I'm a strong supporter in sticking to the source material instead of making more inconsistencies.

And just so you know...Brannon Braga, the original creator of ENT, clearly stated during the first run of ENT that it was NOT meant to fit in with the rest of Star Trek canon, and was just supposed to kind of take place in an alternate universe. This is one of the reasons why "Star Trek" wasn't even in the title for the show. Later on, people at Paramount tried to merge ENT with the rest of Star Trek in a desperate attempt to get viewers (because no one was watching ENT), but that only messed up the canon of Star Trek because ENT wasn't meant to fit in it anyway. Not like the Paramount people cared, they just wanted people watching it.

But that's why I consider ENT to be a pretty cool show, but I don't think it should be part of the regular canon...because it wasn't supposed to fit in it anyway.

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davemetlesits In reply to Promus-Kaa [2007-08-13 17:31:47 +0000 UTC]

According to Roddenberry himself, every Star Trek series and movie are part of the canon. After 40 years, noone can expect it to be flawless. I think ENT fits pretty mucg into Trek Canon. Allow me to demonstrate:

1, The Xindi: Yes, there is no mention of any Xindi species thoughout TOS and the TNG era. It may have a simple politican answer. We know that the Xindi are members of the Federation. Humanity became more tolerant as we knew from First Contatc (Picard's lines), so they won't bring up old things. The Xindi possibly helped Earth in later times as a kind of repayment. Another possibility is a politican reason. It is forbidden to talk about the Xindi crisis as it is considered "racist" or "politically incorret" when seen on a pan-Federation scale.

2, Romulans: We have seen the cloaking ships and minefileld. The ship looked really similar to the TOS Bird of Prey, there is a clear design lineage. The ship is not painted with a bird symbol as it was a patrol ship and not a warship. Maybe in pre-TNG times, the symbol was the privilege for war vessels.

3, Klingons: We finally got the answer for the Klingon forehead problem. It is kind of tweaked but acceptable.

4, Borg: It links the TNG era's anti-Borg efforts (ST:FC) with how the Borg discovered a world fit for assimilation. They had contact with humans before the signal reached them (Early TNG), but it meant no real interest for them. Once they got the ages-old signal, thes moved towards Earth.

5, Starfleet: The Federation chose the name because it was neutral. There is an Imperial Fleet (Andoria), a Republican Fleet (Vulcan, I think so), all bearing the name of a different regime. Starfleet is a neutral, yet symbolic name to represent what the Federation's space agency stands for.

6, The Starship Enterprise: The name "Enterprise" is with humanity for centures. It really fits a new, bold experiment, namely the Warp 5 starship. And it fits a starship of the first class able to go on an uninterrupted five-years mission, the NCC-1701. The only difference is that the NX-01 was probably never the flagship of United Eartrh, as she was originally a science ship and not a "Heavy cruiser", like the Constitution class.

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Promus-Kaa In reply to davemetlesits [2007-08-13 19:51:02 +0000 UTC]

That doesn't change the fact that ENT was created as a non-canon show, and started out as a non-canon show. Later on they tried to fit it into canon, this is true, but my original point remains.

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The-DCE [2007-08-12 16:07:55 +0000 UTC]

I prefered the ship in Next Generation.

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davemetlesits In reply to The-DCE [2007-08-12 16:17:09 +0000 UTC]

The ENT-D? You'll get it

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The-DCE In reply to davemetlesits [2007-08-12 16:19:01 +0000 UTC]

I didn't watch it that much to remember the name.

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ChristianII [2007-08-12 15:37:08 +0000 UTC]

Cool

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davemetlesits In reply to ChristianII [2007-08-12 15:44:00 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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