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This is something I wish had happened in KHIII. If only Kairi's training had finished by this point; it would have been so cool to see her be the one to save Aqua. But ah well...All content is the copyright of Square Enix and Disney
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Bluediamondpikachu83 [2020-01-31 16:53:05 +0000 UTC]
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Bluediamondpikachu83 In reply to DeadFantasyFreak [2020-02-02 01:05:38 +0000 UTC]
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NoobieCYPRESS [2020-01-31 02:22:04 +0000 UTC]
THIS should've happened! Kairi being the one who saves Aqua!? C'mon, how is that NOT an awesome concept?
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DeadFantasyFreak In reply to NoobieCYPRESS [2020-01-31 02:27:32 +0000 UTC]
Right? Would have been absolutely brilliant if Riku saved Terra, and Kairi saved Aqua. Would have made KHIII at least a little better. Ah well...
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NoobieCYPRESS In reply to DeadFantasyFreak [2020-01-31 02:30:16 +0000 UTC]
Exactly. Think about it... Riku possibly interacting with the Lingering Will? And Kairi entering the Realm of Darkness to rescue Aqua (BEING A PLAYABLE CHARACTER, LIKE SHE SHOULD'VE BEEN?!), especially since Aqua saved her, in a way, back in BBS.
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DeadFantasyFreak In reply to NoobieCYPRESS [2020-01-31 02:34:25 +0000 UTC]
Totally! And Kairi, as a PoH, has already been confirmed to be able to enter the Darkness without any negative effects because she is, literally, pure light. It is a much better concept than [stupidly] having Riku and Mickey search the same area in the Dark Realm two or three times. That made them look incompetent, and like a way to buy time for Sora to finish his [pointless] journey and still be able to help them all save Aqua.
KHIII, basically, made everyone stupid and weak so Sora could run around saving everyone. None of them could anything without his help -- and that is a major insult to Mickey, Riku, and Aqua.
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NoobieCYPRESS In reply to DeadFantasyFreak [2020-01-31 02:38:35 +0000 UTC]
I didn't even like Sora, in KH3. They took his cheerful personality and bumped it up to an annoying level. He tries to be everyone's hero and even stupidly throws himself into danger, thinking he's invincible. I honestly disliked him, throughout the entire game. Ventus was still a whiny crybaby, Aqua's voice annoyed the hell outta me. Kairi literally had NO REASON to be in the game. She did jackshit and Lea...he's only here JUST to reunite with Roxas and Xion.
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DeadFantasyFreak In reply to NoobieCYPRESS [2020-01-31 02:57:32 +0000 UTC]
There were a number of things I hated about KHIII:
1) Sora's journey was pointless. He literally traveled to every world to obtain the "Power of Waking", only for us to find out he had it all along. So...what was the point exactly? You literally do nothing but waste time; but I guess Riku and Mickey needed time to waste as well so Sora could conveniently pop into the RoD when he did.
2) Half the worlds remained unaltered with Sora's visit. You literally watch the movies play out while Sora is more like an audience member the entire time; he had no impact on what was happening. He got knocked off the mountain three times just so Elsa could sing "Let It Go" again.
3) Riku and Mickey were dumbed down and weakened, alongside Aqua, so Sora could save everyone in the end -- because SE wouldn't know "balance" if it bit them in the ass.
4) The Keyblade War was so blatantly rushed it's not even funny. People were defending it like "You do realize that, by them dying, the keyblades were forged in order to create the "X-Blade". But the counter to that is "You DO realize that, by the Guardians dying at that point, the other clashes would not have been possible. So Xehanort, effectively, shot himself in the foot." How would he have known Kairi would preserve Sora's memory and Sora would be able to, in turn, save everyone and bring them back? It doesn't make sense.
5) Xehanort is THE BIGGEST dick in the franchise -- and we're supposed to believe that, after all the pain and despair that man caused because he was curious, that he's actually a good guy? No. No damn way -- I do NOT buy that! This is what happens when the writer of a story connects more with the antagonist than the protagonist. Not even redemption can save some people; they will always be seen as a dick simply because of the shit they caused.
Yeah, Kairi did absolutely nothing -- not really - in the game, and Lea broke the fourth wall too many times to be taken seriously. He was, literally, the voice of the fans several times in the game. It was like the story was, basically, parodying itself. It was embarrassing -- especially since the plot is already so convoluted because of all the retcons. The DLC was great for Kairi though! They added scenes that actually gave her more screen-time and did really good for her character. Granted, that doesn't necessarily make up for Nomura practically ignoring her the past 15 years... But at least she finally got to do something. The downside is, if you don't buy the DLC, you never see her at her best ever. Though, in all honesty, the DLC is way overpriced for what it gives you -- and at least half the content could certainly have fit into the main story.
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RCDeschene In reply to DeadFantasyFreak [2020-02-02 14:17:16 +0000 UTC]
1) I agree. Too much of the overall plot-pacing and execution in KHIII was a bit too artificial and forced, in my opinion.
2) This actually wasn't entirely Nomura's fault. Disney had some pretty significant constituents when it came to the princess worlds, Frozen's being the heaviest. In fact, Game Theorist pretty much pieced together what Square really had planned for Arendalle, to which Nomura even confessed that Disney effectively told him to keep the Frozen's story pristinely intact.
3) Right, I thought that Riku's gameplay was a bit underwhelming for a person why went through and passed a whole Mark of Mastery exam and all he got out of it was his Dark Firaga attack and Thunder & Cure spells. I always thought Riku should have carried over an Earth-type attack from 3D, seeing as how Earth was the only standard FF/RPG elemental that Sora didn't get magic for.
4) Actually, part of Xehanort's plan always was to try and eliminate the Guardians before they had a chance to form and participate in the Keyblade War. That way, with no Seven Guardians of Light present, he was free to hunt down the New Seven Princesses of Heart without sufficient adversary. That's why he had Ansem & Xemnas going after the Guardians while having Marluxia & Larxene going after the Princesses at the same time. Though, I agree Xehanort still shot himself in the foot by killing the Guardians at the start of the Keyblade Graveyard, because Kairi, one of the needed Seven Hearts, was among them.
5) I honestly don't get why people are saying Square tried to make Xehanort a "misunderstood good guy", because that's not how I saw it at all. Granted, Xehanort did believe that what he was doing was for the benefit of the world's balance, but that doesn't make him a "good" guy for it. It's pretty much standard nowadays for villains to have some kind of twisted logic and justification for the corrupt paths they go down. No one's really "evil for the sake of evil" anymore.
But overall, I agree with your sentiment. I thought the way Kairi was handled, even with her redemption in the ReMind DLC was a huge insult to her overall character development (especially with the state she's in now). Until she really has a moment where she faces a hardship without getting captured, dying, or needing Sora to go save her in some form or another, she'll never have any respectable development in many fan's eyes.
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DeadFantasyFreak In reply to RCDeschene [2020-02-02 18:32:05 +0000 UTC]
1) The plot was probably my biggest peeve with the game -- that and the pacing. Some worlds dragged out and some worlds had very little happen in them at all.
2) Yeah, people have told me that. I keep pointing out that particular issue, but I do realize I am, essentially, wrong to do that. It just irked me because Frozen was the world I was most looking forward to, having never seen the movie.
3) Exactly. And Earth magic/attacks would totally fit Riku because his name, specifically, means "land" -- and characters with, as Hades put it in BBS, "earthy" names typically center around the earth element. It's like a missed opportunity, and I always hate those because sometimes they can really improve the experience for people. But yeah, being a keyblade master and only having 1 special move and 2 spells seems...lackluster. His shotlock even works like Aqua's, which doesn't make sense because there's no reason they should be similar.
4) Okay, fair point. I guess I can chalk that up to a misunderstanding simply from being unable to really comprehend that aspect of the plot. But, at the same time, there are seven princesses and you're only introduced to four in the game. So, in a way, it seems like another cop-out because we never got to meet the last three PoH. So they couldn't just come in at the last minute after the Guardians died. Which was actually another peeve of mine: that they mention these princesses and we only meet a few of them; two of whom are, coincidentally, in the same world. (though Anna is never even acknowledged by Larxene) And then the whole notion of the seven princesses actually being able to change when BBS revealed they are PoH because they were born when the X-keyblade shattered during the war. They are literally pure light...and there were only seven of them. So it sounds like Nomura retconned the plot there so the story for III could make work.
5) My particular disdain for that centers on how, despite wanting "balance" in the world(s), he nevertheless caused endless pain for many people and worlds in his quest for such: he tore apart TAV and killed Eraqus, he possessed Riku by taking advantage of his weaknesses (well, his Heartless did... But nevertheless, it was still, technically, a part of Xehanort), he manipulated Maleficent into stealing the hearts of the first seven princesses just to open the final keyhole, and he's never really shown any remorse for his actions, despite how much he was clearly hurting everyone around him; all he ever did was smirk and laugh even when they were getting angry, sad, and despair right in front of his eyes. He had no problem killing people to get what he wanted. He basically acted heartless and callous the entire saga, so I never got the impression he was a good guy in any sense of the word. That's why it felt like a major blow to my emotions or whatever when I find out I'm supposed to believe he was doing all of that stuff for the right reasons when it came off as him doing them more so because he was curious. I just don't like feeling like I was deceived, and that's how I felt.
Fair enough. Though I did still think that the cutscene with her actually fighting some, and even facing off against Xehanort himself was still far better than anything Nomura has let her do up to this point. It's a start anyway, I feel. However, with Sora now gone she WILL be forced to take better care of herself because no one will be able to save her next time -- not even Riku. So this could very well be the start of some real development for her. Plus, apparently, Nomura said the ReMIND artwork on the main menu is important or something; basically implying it has to do with the next saga, or at least KHIV. So we'll find out at some point what's next for her.
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RCDeschene In reply to DeadFantasyFreak [2020-02-05 19:41:45 +0000 UTC]
Right, that's what I didn't get about Xehanort, either. The guy legit enjoyed the pain and anguish of others because he thought people's lights were false or "shined too bright", then cursed the people for letting darkness grow in their hearts. The more you think about it, the less sense his goals and motives make. Xehanort wants the "First Light of Kingdom Hearts" to reset and re-balance everything, but every action he took, be it to progress light or darkness, was utter contradictory. HE actively fed right into most of the imbalance he loathed.
Unfortunately, I have a bad feeling the most of KHIV will have Kairi out of commission and out of the way again as strongly suggested by her current comatose state being one of the "other two" whose dreams are keeping Sora alive and traceable. KHIV is gearing-up to be another sausage show focused on Sora & Riku, and now Yozora. Although, if Square was generous enough to show that they're aware of our desire to see Kairi become more combatively competent, they might just surprise us again. BBS & 0.2 let us know through Aqua that Square isn't against the idea of letting a female take the spotlight.
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DeadFantasyFreak In reply to RCDeschene [2020-02-05 21:28:16 +0000 UTC]
I didn't like it at all. It really did seem like his perspective, or at least his reasoning, just changed on a dime. I guess Nomura just wanted him to get a happy ending as well, for a reason I can't understand. I will agree that some characters should get redemption... But those are the ones whom show a glimmer of pity, remorse, or conscience towards the things they've done. Xehanort did not, so he didn't necessarily earn his happy ending. It was literally forced upon him.
I can't really say anything about Kairi's future role -- no one can, obviously. But yeah, it would be nice to see her be able to do something. I'm thinking her comatose state is what is bringing about rumors of a "DDD2" starring Kairi and Riku. Honestly, I guess I could see that... But maybe it will be an adventure taking place inside Kairi's mind or heart, somehow leading us -- and her -- to Sora. The story of KH is so crazy that just about any idea could work. I guess we'll find out soon enough though. Apparently, there are only one or two titles until KHIV.
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RCDeschene In reply to DeadFantasyFreak [2020-02-10 12:24:54 +0000 UTC]
And one of the new titles has been revealed to be a Xehanort origin story...
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DeadFantasyFreak In reply to RCDeschene [2020-02-10 18:31:09 +0000 UTC]
Yeah.... And on mobile. Not interested in the slightest. Mainly because I just really don't care about Xehanort -- at all.
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RCDeschene In reply to DeadFantasyFreak [2020-02-14 10:09:43 +0000 UTC]
I just hope it won't be a UX clone... ._.
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DeadFantasyFreak In reply to RCDeschene [2020-02-14 16:51:35 +0000 UTC]
A lot hope not, apparently.
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NoobieCYPRESS In reply to DeadFantasyFreak [2020-01-31 03:05:03 +0000 UTC]
Everything you listed, I completely agree
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DeadFantasyFreak In reply to NoobieCYPRESS [2020-01-31 03:13:39 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, sorry that was so long.
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NoobieCYPRESS In reply to DeadFantasyFreak [2020-01-31 03:18:44 +0000 UTC]
Nah, I'm glad you listed your problems with the game.
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