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Why art is never easy.This is not a bad thing.
This is not a good thing.
It's just a thing.
It's about how people say words easily without thinking, especially to beginners (which can be pretty discouraging) how others perceive goals compared to what artists feels - that the journey IS the destination and that one improvement follows an other into an endless learning curve.
I can be scary at times but we deal with it. Try and get a regular person to understand the concept of infinite and their brain will melt.
I think artists are the bravest people on Earth and they are also a little bit nuts because they understand the physics of things.
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credo siano simili, forse lo che stress Γ¨ diverso hahahaha forse manca la pressione esterna o il costante salire di livello dello sforzo che testano i limiti della natura umana... piΓΉ che un lavoro forse uno sport a livello agonistico Γ¨ vicino al concetto.
Almeno per me funziona così.
Il fatto Γ¨ che un lavoro io ce l'ho sempre avuto e non mi fa lo stesso effetto... mi appassiona, lo faccio volentieri, ci metto il massimo impegno e raggiungo il massimo, ma non c'Γ© la curva di apprendimento successiva e... o almeno non in tempi ristretti.... e non testa i miei limiti.
non mi fa lo stesso effetto di quando, per esempio facevo nuoto e dovevo migliorare i tempi entro la gara o di quando disegno e devo raggiungere un certo livello entro un certo periodo.Β
il fatto è che quando lavoravo sono sempre riuscita a raggiungere il top in breve tempo, solo mettendoci un po' di impegno (lo stesso vale per lo studio)... nelle altre cose, nonostante l'impegno, continuavano sempre ad arrivare i livelli successivi che richiedevano ulteriore impegno e raddoppiavano. E poi le scadenze in fatto di lavori artistici si vivono diversamente che non nei lavori normali. Almeno per me è così.
Al lavoro al massimo mi raddoppiano le carte e anche con le scadenze vicine la procedura Γ¨ quella, a un certo punto mi sono sveltita e l'urgenza sparisce per cui subentra la stasi, ed Γ¨ un diverso di urgenza, un po' meno personale, testa un po' meno i limiti della natura umana... almeno per me.
Poi magari ci sono quelli che da impiegato vogliono diventare CEO ma anche lΓ‘ piΓΉ che lvorare sodo devi lavorarti le persone giuste hahahaha.
poi non so magari ci sono le persone che vivono il lavoro a livello agonistico.
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I think this very thing can also be a reason a lot of artists stop. This kind of "I want perfection" attitude can get to someone, especially when they realise perfection is nothing but a concept. I know for a fact that as I've improved with art I've always wanted to be a few steps better than I was or am. Even now I look at my stuff and think "I should be THIS good now" instead of appreciating the work it's taken to get as good as I am.
It's OK to want to improve but there's always the looming fact that you'll never reach the goal-post because the goal-post is ever moving. It's tiring after a while and it often leads to burn-out.
People are just far too preoccupied with looking forward at what they think they should be, to look back and see how far they've come.
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quite true - I tell the same thing to my students... look how far you've come.
I think looking forward is not a bad thing either... it all depends on how you take things. I like the infinite quest for new things, it makes life worth living... but most people mistake the joirney with the goal and goals are not fun once reached.
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This is very cute, but ill-defined. Β "Improvement" by it's very nature requires looking back at the past and being better than what was. Β That fact that this monologue ignores it [achievements] makes it more about chasing perfection, which is of course, humanly unattainable. Β (And universally understandable.)
Similarly in fitness this comes up a lot because the journeys are long, arduous and require a lot of persistance and superhuman motivation that few people posses on their own, without perspective.
Just be better than you were yesterday - even a little - and you will have improved by the very definition of the word; no debate. Β Now how much you have vs. *want* to is each individual's own issue...
"The greats weren't great because at birth they could paint. Β The greats were great because they painted a lot."
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Yes, I'm glad you agree.
That is why the word improvement is under the feet of the character because we go from improvement to improvement no matter who people think that "getting there" is the whole point.
It is the persistence of improvement that makes the struggle to be better infinite and created the paradox that leads us to take step after step after step no matter what the distance is.which is why "room for it" "not there yet" are used lightly and that is why the first sentence is bold and it states "how easily" people say things - it is evidently because they have a goal in mind and it is hard to understand that in fact art is about the journey
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The only finishing line is the grave, and it tends to the be the one least sought.
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that is also when we stop feeling things, sigh.
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This is why it's important to always celebrate every success and goal met, because there is not grand finishing line.
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Wow! I've never thought of it that way. My whole life is a lie...
I love it
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This is completely correct.. even if it does make me cry a little inside..
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no no, hahaha it's not a bad thing, it's just the thing we are stuck in.
People from the outside don't see it. hahahaha
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I can't quite agree with this. It doesn't mean you'll always have to go to try to reach improvement, and thus never actually improve. It means that you can always improve more.
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precisely my point, after one learning curve there is a next one so the process is endless. never stated is a bad thing, never stated is good either, only asked if you know what it feels li,e to be in such a process... only stated that words are used lightly especially with beginners.
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Oooh, I see. I misinterpreted the comic then.
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hahaha that is why the first statement is writtne bold hahahah it is not meant to be a bad thing... it is for others to understand why creative minds are such oddballs at time, we live in another space-time continuum hahaha
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Aha! Quite true 
>w< but the cycle of learning testing and improving that makes up the largest portion of the creative process (I think) is the most enjoyable thing.... not just the product ^^.... creating is the fun part.... and then sharing...
if you ever *did* "Get there"......Then what??? 
Never quite reaching a perfect finished moment... doesn't mean you can't be happy at various stages along the way... at least I figure it that way >w<...
XD hahahah... the "Infinite"..... You know...living *in it* is "Fine"... XDDDD
Do you see my pun >w< 
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when you get there you hop onto the next learning curve and there is a new there. So the whole point is the process of learning is endless and we know it 
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^^ Yep....
hahha.. I didn't figure you meant to label anything as "Sad or Happy" because you never mentioned emotions except to ask "do you know what it feels like to live knowing that you will never reach?"... but your little lizard looked kind of overwhelmed and lost in the last two "shots" so I felt sorry for it and wanted to say something encouraging...
It is too easy to use words lightly +_+ ... Words certainly have a *Figurative Weight* Enough to bruise worse than any rock but that's the dangerous part... they aren't heavy to use...so they can still be tossed around lightly only to crash like hailstones... O_O... eeep...Can you imagine if words really did have Actual weight... X'D speaking would be exhausting...and books would weigh a Ton!!!Β (silly thought ahahah
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well lost and tired it is but it is not a negative thing, it's all part of the quest hahaha.Β
I wish words had a weight... we could be spared sooo much trouble. hahahaha.
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This is true, but it's not necessarily a bad thing... For me it just means that nobody's perfect, so even if I never fully achieve the artistic heights I wish I could, I'll have comfort knowing that I'm not the only one... I bet any great artist has had and still has moments like these : )
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well it is all about never stop learning and how fatiguing it is and how lightly comments are given. Art has ups and downs.
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That is so cute, and also very true in a sad way
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it's not sad,
unless we are talking about people using words easily...Β
the learning process is just a process. It is tiring but it's not happy nor sad.Β
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God... this is a very bleak way to look at the term... but its not wrong ;_;
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why bleak?
It is not a positive nor a negative thing. It's just a thing... we are endlessly learning and people use word lightly, especially with beginners who have yet to face the infinite process.Β
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"Bleak" is not truly the word I meant, but it was the closest thing. Its more like a stark reality. While not bad,it is a thing that we have to learn to except and work with.Β
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ahhaha yeah, then stark reality it is hahaha.
What I find difficult is having people from "the outside" understand the kind of life we lead.Β
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I feel ya there Β :/
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This is what always happens in my head when I hear phrases like that, minus the lizard/dragon/thing.
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I think this approach to the concept is a little bit depressing, and I don't feel that way about improvement at all, at least not anymore. The problem with this attitude is that you are focusing on improvement as a destination. It isn't about getting someplace, its about moving towards something. It's about the journey. To go further, what happened if it was a place you could get to. Say you wanted to improve to a certain point, and it was a reachable place, what then? You've done it, you have improved, but now what? Do you stop? Would you want to?
I know that I don't ever want to stop, I mean getting better and learning new stuff is too much fun to want to stop, and if improvement is infinite then it means I don't have to stop. Ever.
Anyway, just my two cents.
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no no it is all about the journey not the destination, it is an endless journey - so the whole point is that the journey is endless and artists know the concept of infinite and that is why it is difficult to understand, live with one.
Also art is always fun but the point is that words are used lightly especially with beginners.Β
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I agree with you. I think that art is all about the struggle and the growth. The satisfaction I get is to see that I'm much better than I was last year, and that what I create is growing alongside me as I get older and to take ideas from the more experiences I have.
My view is that as long as I am creative or imagine, I can create infinity in a sense: my own world, a place to go when reality is far to upsetting. However, what I want is more. I want to take my visions and apply them to reality and create as big as a disturbance in the universe as I can because I don't want to be quiet anymore.
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Yup, which is precisely the point of the comic.
It was never meant to be a negative nor a positive thing, just a thing.
There is no negative connotation, just a question to people who do not understand why artists are such oddballs.
We keep live in an endless process it's a difficult concept to understand for those who don't do art.
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It's hard to get people thinking like I do, and I used to find that maddening when nobody would listen to me, which is why I love to create art, even if I'm not that good now, I'm determined to get better so maybe somebody will understand what's goingΒ inside my head.
I'm not the most philosophical or wise person in the world, and honestly I'm not that smart, butΒ I don'tΒ understand why other people CAN'T understand an artists perspective, much less THINK about it. That is the depressing aspect of art. But I suppose all we can do as artists is keep going and just try harder.
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true, also... it's not like we have a choice.
Art chose us and we keep going.
If a regular person tries to understand the concept of infinite... they lose their mind and we actually chose to live in this constant condition.
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This is very true, and a bit discouraging.
However, this statement can be counteracted with being happy with your skill and what you have. It all depends on how you look at things. (:
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you should never be happy with what you ha e otherwise you stop learning.
This is not a statement about never getting there but about always being in the learning process and how fatiguing it is.
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Yes, but you can continue to learn things while being happy and comfortable about what you already have.
I wasn't trying to argue lol. I believe I said it was very true.
All I meant was its not so bad a lot of the time, it just depends on your outlook.
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