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Published: 2002-06-28 18:16:07 +0000 UTC; Views: 4984; Favourites: 56; Downloads: 696
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Apologies to ArtPolitic in general, but more specifically Enept [link] Lambofgod [link] N0Deal [link] and CorporateWhore [link]I basically used their pieces as a background for my message, which was more of a response than a statement.
This is my submission to ARTPOLITIC's ABORTION CAMPAIGN.
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Young girl named Lia Mills speech for stop abortion, please watch this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzUb6iβ¦
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well... not that i am gonna start an argument on this or anything but, my views are:
if you get pregnant, the baby is your business. of course, people are going to disagree with me and hell yea, you guys have some pretty good points. but the thing is with me, if you dont want to have babies dying, then just go pop out some more and deal with your own instead of getting all up in someone elses life... like of course its okay to pull the plug on an old person who is failing and all that jazz, but you cant stomach the idea of 'pulling the plug' on an unborn baby that will be living in a dying world? i think it would be better just to leave it to the parents, let them decide what to do with their fetus.... some say the people getting abortions are playing god, but look at what so many people are saying: 'life and death is everyone's business' i thought you guys JUST said it was god's business. why are you making it yours now? just because someone else is doing something, does it make it okay to do the same thing? well no, sillies :] just let people live their lives, their day of judgement will come, but you wont be doing the judging. leave it to big guns upstairs
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With life and death involved, I'll make it my business.
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I agree! The decision to have an abortion is a private matter between the woman and her family, not the government or "pro-lifers" who sling around the word murder.
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miau! i love the message... I just wish that people that are not pregnant women would keep their opinion to themselves... honestly its not right to have an opinion about something you have never experimented and i mean it only in abortion issues... cuz obvioulsy one cant experiment stuff just to know what it feels like... I just say that no one should judge a position they havent been in...
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What a crude slogan, even if abortion WASN'T anyone else's business. It is, though. Taxpayers--many pro-choice--have their money spent on abortions; therefore it's their business. Mens' children are killed; therefore it's their business. Peoples' grandchildren, siblings, cousins... abortion affects more than the woman having it.
Not to mention, it's killing a baby.
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Murder is everyone's buisiness.Protecting human life is everyone's reponsibilty.
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Right on! Me chopping people into little peices, raping them, stabbing them, throwing them of cliffs, suffocating them, poisonsing them, hanging them, running over them, hitting them with a train, beating them with a baseball bat, Shooting them in the face, drowning them and throwing them in a pool of sharks is NO ONES FUCKING BUSINESS...
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its good to look up abortion and see at least one openminded person.
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Apathy does not equal openmindedness.
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HAHA people A guy posted this, I thought their opinions didn't matter??
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I disagree. Doctors repeatedly suggested to my mother to abort me, since I'm a twin and I wasn't doing well. I'm perfectly healthy and could have never existed. Same with my sister- she had a 50% chance of being born with downs syndrome, so doctors suggested "starting again" several times. She's perfectly healthy, no downs at all. Abortion is my business-- thank God my mother is Pro-Life.
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well thats diferent... your mother had the resources to take care of you I mean you were sort of planed... of course it would have been a mistake if she aborted you only because an statistic... but its diferent for every woman and thats the whole point you know... not judging people you dont know!
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No, I don't know them, but that doesn't make much of a difference as far as the issue goes. A human being is a human being, regardless of whether or not they were wanted, and whether their circumstances suck or not doesn't change the fact that they were alive and now they're not. As far as being able to take care of a child, that's a euthanasia issue, not an abortion issue.
People act as though there are two choices: abortion or keeping the kid. Ideally, keeping your own child would be best, but if that isn't economically or otherwise possible, adoption is another perfectly feasible option. There are thousands of people who desperately want children, but due to physical problems they cannot become pregnant or carry a child to term. I know 6 adoptive families, and it has been just as much of a gift to them as it has been to the children. It just seems like a horrible waste to have so many potential loving parents out there while expectant mothers kill their unborn children [in absolutely horrifying ways, but that's another story] because they are unable/unwilling to care for them themselves. There are other options out there. They may not be the most convenient for the mother for 9 months, choosing 9 months of convenience over preserving a person's life is undeniably selfish.
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It was her decision in the end, wasn't it? Good.
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yes! its a womans choice!
its not your body so why care!
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Amen.
If a woman wants to abort it, she has all rights to!
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Soooo I guess everyone here is okay with the fact that more than 50 million innocent children have been aborted just in America alone...
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Yes, because the world is hugely overpopulated as it is, and if it keeps going the way it is now we will all be forced to get abortions like in China. Somehow i think choice is better than forced abortion.
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How about, hm, say, begin cracking down on rape hard enough that it becomes less of an issue, teach kids how to fucking masturbate so they don't go out and have irresponsible sex, reform popular media so that having casual, unprotected sex is not seen as something "cool" or "desirable", educate children on the responsibilities and risks that come with sex itself, help people realize that they don't need to have sex until they are ready to possibly support a child, educate people on birth control, even if they don't have sex, just in case (God forbid, but were rape to be something a woman should endure, being safe from pregnancy, or having a chance to be safe from pregnancy would be a blessing)?
There are a lot of ways the world could be made better. The fact stands that we are ALL part of the problem- but it also stands that we all have the capability to be part of the solution. Maybe if people started using their brains a bit instead of turning toward humanity's oh so reliable default of violence and killing, we'd all be a bit better off for it.
There, I said it, feel free to lash out at me with the "IT'S HER BODY"s and "YOU MUST BE A WHITE HETEROSEXUAL MALE"s.
Also sorry for reviving your old ass comment.
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Such hostility... So I hate women because I see a fetus as more valuable than a woman's time? Nine months is nothing compared to the whole life of the child.
It is none of my business? So does this apply with other regulations?
Murder- It's none of your fucking business. You aren't effected if I kill someone else. Not physically.
Animal abuse. It's none of your fucking business. If I feel like throwing a dog in a sack and beating it with a board, it's my property, fuck off.
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Annd what about war?
People CHOOSE to fight!
How come you make THAT you'r buissiness?
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This is pretty great.
People get way too hyped up over this subject, I think.
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I only have one question: Would you please just watch this video [link]
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I dare you to look into a childs eyes before you can say that! A babys eyes holding it I dare you!
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YES I totally agree, it's our bodies, we'll do what we fucking want, we're the ones who know wether or not we can create a suitable environment for children. Pro-Choice <3
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This is the best point of view ive heard yet. I mean really, what buisiness does the gov't have in this, and why is it such a public issue anyways?
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Hee-hee! I heart you and your art is full o' pro-choicey goodness!
Honestly, anti-abortionists are ass-backwards. If they don't trust us with a choice, how can they trust us with a child?
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Love the message. Too bad more text explaining the whole thing would kill off the prettiness though. ><
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MURDER: NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUISNESS
thats what this says to me- I guess we shouldn't bother you if you want to kill your own children- go right ahead!
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invisionamp-
your are correct. A woman who commits aoirtion is morally incorrect.
And this isnt art in my opinion to.
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Guess what? Your opinion doesn't matter. Art is an origanil creation done by someone who does what they enjoy. Or support or doesn't support. By the way, what makes YOU think you'll change anybodys mind? After all, only about a billion other people have. With better arguements. Just saying "Oh it's wrong beacuse I say so, despite the fact I only see things one way" is not gonna change our minds.
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It isn't wrong because I say so; it's wrong because it's murder.
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*Sigh* That's your opinion. Not mine, I can't change yours, you can't change mine. And I don't want to change anyones opinion anymore. But I will point out that your argument isn't conviencing. Not to mention you contridicted yourself. And you say it's murder... well, population control is extemly vital to our exiestence, as well as other animals besides humans.
Think of the food chain and starvation in third-world countires and how unfair it is to them. Also take in the fact of how little fresh water there is. And also think of how population increase will effect the future. Analyze the situation in more than one way, include the downfalls and advantages to abortion and draw a conclusion. That's how I came to my desicion.
And what of you? Did you do this?
I don't care what your opinion is, but.... the most unfair thing of all.... is people with sevre autism. I only have mild autism, but I know how they feel. Do you know how lonely it is because of this disability? To where you can't even communicate with anyone.... It is hell. And more than likely, those people want to die, but they might not even know what death is!
.... Please, please, try to understand how important abortion is. This is not as simple as you make it out to be....
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Population control? That's your justification for murder. Holy cow, that's heartless. And just because you feel lonely enough that you want to be dead doesn't mean all people with autism feel like that.
But I guess you're right about one thing. There's no way I can change your mind so whatever.
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To Everyone, and please actually read the whole thing. >.<#
1: Okay, this is the LAST thing I'm sending, so PLEASE stop replying to this people!!!!
2: I am not entitled to care about anyone. People's standards are way too high, but not many even notice! Even if they do, they just don't usually want to believe it. If you hear that someone dies on the news, you never really care, do you? Not usually, since you don't know them.
3: I wasn't saying we should kill them. I'm TRYING to make a point! I'm saying that there are people who do suffer. And actually, yes, most do. Not all, but most.
4: Justification? Um.... you DO realize that we do do population control on animals besides humans, and that's perfectly fine? LOOK! People, if there are too many of us in this world, then in the end only a small portion of the population will be well off, and more will suffer from starvation. Think of the food cycle. The only way to solve this problem otherwise is to set up colonies on ships and such, but too many people think we have to solve all these other little problems beforehand, which will never happen.
5: If your going to argue with someone, please know what your actually talking about. You should view every little thing, geology, food chain (Which includes water!), technology, population, culture, psychology, and most importantly, how it will effect future generations and make it better for everyone. You know what I think is truly heartless, people who don't care about people in general. I don't care who dies, because death comes to everyone, what I care about is how I can make people happy. I work part-time at a nursing home because I want to make those people happy before their time comes. The section I work at has people who have alzimers. They can't go anywhere and have to stay in that place. Do you know how many people have asked me if I could take them home or where their parents? And do you know how many people don't even try at my workplace?
6: People, if you still want to argue with me, then please note me. Please have some consideration for derghaust-san. I don't think they want to deal with this.
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HA!! WELL DONE!!!! 
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*Grins* There's not much I can say here that hasn't already been said. But I like this deviation very much. It's blunt and in-your-face about the fact that no one has the right to tell other people what to do when it comes to abortion. And I do so love a piece that stirs up huge amounts of controversy.
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I totally agree. Its no ones business but the woman involved.
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