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Published: 2008-03-08 22:19:32 +0000 UTC; Views: 25976; Favourites: 356; Downloads: 609
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Simple tutorial, I made it for [link] ~ my first submitted tutorial.OMITTED STEP: TO FIX THE LOW QUALITY RESULT
As for some of the issues brought up: I realize the distortion results in a low quality logotype, I did not include the final step because of size constraints...but to fix it is simple: work at a much larger scale, when you finish up simply scale it down and it will get rid of the jaggies and make everything sharp again.
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Wow I woke up this morning with my inbox filled, I clicked the piece and realized it got DD'ed - my very first ever!!!
Also, I made this for some friends @ silkroadforums.com, I didn't realize it would get so much attention, and i'm sorry for the jokes near the end.
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20 minutes after starting your tutorial, I made it through step 1 ...
Why 20 minutes? Because I read the top disclaimer (not going over basics) and was fine with that. Than I saw "orums" and automatically assumed it was some option in font size.
10+ years of experience and I went, "Holycrap, he shrank the orums? What are the orums? I have never heard of orums? Is this some new photoshop measurement system...what the *Beep*"
20 minutes laters "Ohhh ... orums in Forums ... I just failed at life."
Thought you may get a kick out of that.
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Very helpful. This is definitely going in my collection.
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But why the hell do you use Photoshop to create a logo ???
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Rule #1 of logo design: Make it Vector!
The logo is nothing special ... no thought behind it, just something that been done before many, many many ... many many times.
DA isn't what it used to be
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Yes. The only "acceptable" logos ARE vector. Lol, imagine a billboard with a raster logo. I'd laugh my @$$ off. Either way, vectoring, in terms of logos and design is SO much better.
I admit it, I'm a noob, but potential wise,
Illustrator=design
photoshop=art
flash=flash (duh)
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For the second step of your tutorial, you could also cut part of the text and freely play around with it on a new layer. Free transform works best for the simpler tasks, and the cell colouring should be done prior to or after with the pen tool fill or paint bucket. I dunno.
Nerdy amateur suggestions galore.
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The outcome looks disorted. Maybe working with a bigger logo and then resizing? :S
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Since I'm not a big photoshopper, but I LOVE looking at tutorials (even for things I never do) I'd have to say one of the best parts was how you explained what logotype was at the beginning! Sometimes I look at tutorials and I have NO idea what they're talking about! 
Anyway, that was excellent, but so is the rest of this! I really see what you mean about how important it is to differentiate from plain ol' text and logotype. Thanks for explaining!
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Sweet - 
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I have a question or two
With a DD on this you may not ever get a chance to answer.
Was the 'word' made in two seperate text layers: SRF in one and OROMS in another? If, yes, Why would you need to 'cut out' a portion of the 'o'? Can't the srf just be placed in front of the oroms?
I am very new and inexperienced in Photoshop but even I could follow along with this. I enjoyed the humor.
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I wrote it on one text-layer. I rasterized that layer, cut the orums, pasted it back on. I resized it and placed it next to the SRF.
Following that I ctrl + clicked the SRF layer to select it, I expanded the selection by a couple pixels and hit delete with the orums layer selected.
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That was the most unnecessary thing to do. Step 1 shouldn't be there at all, and step 2. should have start with making 2 separate layers, one for SRF in white colour and other for ORUMS in green. Then, the ORUMS should have been placed BEHIND the SRF layer, and that would be it.
You complicated things waaaaay to much (what's all that with cutting, resizing, pasting?!?!?!) , in a very amateurish way. To be honest, I would suggest you to read few tutorials before making one that's showing/teaching people how to make things in more complicated and time consuming way.
Btw, congrats on the DD
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The reason I start with a text layer is because I don't usually know exactly what i'm going to do until I have everything out infront of me. If I knew I was going to do it the way I did it, with the orums smaller and a different colour, I would of probably done it your way.
I guess I could always sit down with a piece of paper and sketch for a while, before opening photoshop, but that would probably take more time than just rasterizing one text layer and playing with it.
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"I don't usually know exactly what i'm going to do until I have everything out infront of me" - I completely agree with this work flow, I believe 99% of us designers work that way.
But this work flow is not applicable for a tutorial. Tutorial should show how to do things in a certain,most simplest and less time consuming way.
I believe the point of every tutorial is for artist to show to people how something he already did, is done. Not to start without a general idea in his mind, and deciding what to do during the tutorial itself. It just adds to confusion.
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It actually wasn't going to be a tutorial, I was just playing around and I ended up making it for some friends - I didn't expect it to get DD'ed or have 4,600+ views. I just retraced the steps I used to make it.
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This it's just a good photoshop tutorial, a logo can't be only crated playing with photoshop, you must know who is your client, and what he/she's aiming at.
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hmm their seems to be more about his love of will smith that a tut, and the end result is not that good.
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Oooh, I didn't know anything about logotype before. This is a really neat tutorial with simple advice that gets right to the point. Thanks. ^^
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oo sorry one more thing. another thing you might want to mention is when using fonts to try and stay away from stylized fonts that are already being used in existing products, for instance, the font choice here is used in the very old video game console, "Intellivision". Since it is so old I dont think you have much problem, but reguadless you wouldnt want to provide someone with a logo that has the same recongnizable text as another. just trying to give you some constructive crit. like i said though, good job!
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you might also mention that when designing a logo you have to keep in mind where it is primarily going to be used. web, print, etc. as this will play into the final use of the logo. a logo with many fades and colors will not always work well for a tshirt, or when pad printing onto pencils and pens, as it will dramatically raise your clients cost in the end. and while this may not directly effect you as the designer, it may effect their choice in coming back to you when or if then ever need anything done in the future. besides that good job.
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Great tutorial! You've put in some useful pointers without actually spoonfeeding with a "and now press ctrl+backspace" or whatever... Nicely done, the result is very stylish and attractive too.
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Nice one, this logotype works for forums on technical, computer related stuff or games -- that's what it looks like. It also has some good photoshop pointers and a great colour scheme.
I must say though, I think that logo design (and design in general) is more about leaving out than putting in -- strangely enough, it's what you don't see around a logo or type that makes the difference...
It doesn't really apply on your logo since it works -- for this example. The important thing about logos is whether they communicate what the project or company needs to communicate! Shapes or funky-ness come in second, I think.
That's also why ppl actually study for it. I didn't, so I still have a pretty hard time with logo designing ^_^
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What a great tutorial! I knew nothing about logotyping before, but now I do 
It really is DD~worthy!
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Nice tutorial. Text has always been my downfall, and I found this very helpful. Thanks for posting
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Thank you for posting this, and congrats on the DD! After I read the tutorial I had to run out and try it, here's the result: [link]
Also, I work as a graphic artist for a phone book company and showed your tutorial to one of my friends/coworkers, she also bookmarked it for future reference
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this tutorial sux.. there is nothing creative, and all in all you are telling only basics of web/logo desings in photoshop. i studiet computer graphics on university, and there was MUCH more informations about logo designing and creativity in one lesson than in this tutorial. you have your own style (i looked at your other deviations), and they are all similar, nothing new. so and you want to know what made me really angry and wrote this critical comment? Step 9. i think, that most of "serious community-college degree artists" will do much more better. and btw, circle around forum have been used zilion times in logos.
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on another note, if you're so high and mighty, having studied computer graphics at a university (keep in mind, this statement of yours doesn't even signify that you even completed the course, nor holding a degree), why haven't you been featured for a daily deviation?
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damn and what do you think about yourself? not everyone knows english because not everyone is from united states as you man, i bet you dont even know where slovakia is. studiet was writing speed typo and for question why?... why? why? what does that have with this deviation. flaming
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Since you are so learnΓ©d as to have studied at university, I hope you have a good reason for not being able to spell, or use correct grammar. In fact, I found this tutorial rather useful in its pointers and basic advice, to be perfectly honest, and I think that it's nice that someone spent the time trying to write a tutorial. Additionally, as someone below me has already written, he actually wrote that he "added the trendy and overused halo".
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yes I surly have good reason for bad spelling/grammar. my UK friend, not everyone is primary learning english, there is plenty other languages which can be usefull.
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So then, since we've established that, what about the mildly abusive attack on the tutorial in question?
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I think he made this logo simple 'cause it's an example for those people who never had made a single logo. And he even admits at the Step 9 that the circle is not the most original idea and suggest people to use their own imagination and creativity.
...And this is not a university class, is it?
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A tutorial is created for someone that wants to know how to start with something new, do you really expect it will be that original and that hard?
You said you studiet computer graphics, why do you need a tutorial than. Leave the comments up to those who really have something to say about this that will help him improve his work.
If you want something original, make something yourself, and don't look at someone else'es work.
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thats work of critic.
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be nice, this is a place for critiques, not abuse.
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mmmh i think the result has quite bad quality =/
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I find this quite helpful, as I'm a total newbie when it comes to logos. Thanks!
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Will smith! now i wanna go watch MIB and then make some logo type! lol very helpful tut! XD
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Great tutorial, link to the font is here [link]
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