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I will now rename Church, The PoP!(Pinnacle of Pedophilia)
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(The Following Picture in the demotivation was made by me, thus this entire deviation was made by me and is NOT to be taken Seriously If offensive in any type of way.)
...And if you like what you see, check my gallery.
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Comments: 49
why are you so cynica and condescending?
you seem to have a problem with the world even more so then most teenagers?
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...why are you so offensive, yet at the same time, ignorant?
If you had read the description of ANY or ALL of my devations, than you'd realized that these are, and I quote,"Not meant to be taken seriously if offensive in any manner."
But I suppose reading the descriptions of ANY of demotivations was just too obvious for you, huh?
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no, i mean i the way you reply to peoples comments.
i'm not sure if you realize how you come across, but you seem very harsh harsh, cold and unforgiving in your word.
the reason i point this out is because i use to act the same way when i was your age and it did me no favours and got me countless enemies.
my comment was merely a taste of how you have responded to other people
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and that was the moment I stopped caring.
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brother i think you should read some of your comments back and see the true meaning of ignorance and i think you need to change up because if you talked to someone where i'm from with so much arrogance and condescendence 1 of two things would happen, i think you know what they are.
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the reason I was being offensive was because you steryotyped teenagers as "all hating thier lives." and so on. you expect me to be subtle after that...?
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that's a joke most adults use,
you probably don't get it yet so i can't really blame you for taking it offensively, but your reaction to it actually says alot.
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just another reason why I don't believe, the people kept using it for their own goals and if you don't believe in my god I'll kill you.
religion has been abused my mankind for so long.... that I can't believe it.
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Ah, so true *nod nod*
That is why I'm glad that my local priest is a woman |D
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It's been a few months since you did a motivational poster
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If only just that. A christian school recently KICKED OUT a dyslexic student, after teachers told him that if he didn't learn how to read he'd probably go to jail.
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LOL only in the Catholics :u and that's called Mass
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This... could be considered extremely offensive. I think it is, but I won't censor it. Just know that unless you are so dumb that you buy into every stereotype that dances across the internet for five minutes, you have no reason to think that church = pedophilia.
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Yeah, the description states its not supposed to be offensive and its just a joke... you know what? I'm not even saying this anymore. people are just gonna have to read.
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It is a joke, but not an appropriate one. Most priests are innocent of wrongdoing, and slanders against them have cost various church dioceses millions of dollars for something they never did, based on evidence which would never be accepted in other circumstances (50 year olds suing for the alleged actions of men who are long since dead with no witnesses or physical evidence).
In other words, by making fun of it, you are playing into a witch hunt, one that is led by people who have personal issues with a minority religion who only want to get money in a false lawsuit based on a lie.
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Right, so none of those kids abused ever really suffered. Guess you didn't read the report last month that tens of thousands suffered sexual abuse in the Netherlands alone? You're just excusing evil and blaming the victims. And you're acting as if a joke is somehow worse than children getting molested, how fucking brainwashed are you? Catholics should be offended, maybe they'll start taking some goddamn responsibility and clean their house a little bit, or realize how fucked up it is to destroy people's lives. Because guess what, to normal people it's more offensive that kids are getting molested by old men in dresses.
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I am not excusing evil, I am simply insisting that most of it never happened to begin with because there is literally no proof of it and that it is a witch hunt against a minority religion.
We cannot ask people who never did anything wrong (99% of all priests) to take personal responsibility for it, although there are three facts to consider:
1. Most countries have never reported ANY abuse of that nature. Most of Latin America, all of Africa, and Catholic countries in Asia (there are a few) are all clean from this. It only ever happened in the US, Canada, and a small handful of European countries. This means it is likely a problem with the local dioceses, not the church as a whole.
2. I am not acting as if a joke is worse, but I am offended that you would paint the whole of a 1 billion+ member church as if it was a tiny den of pedophiles.
3. By calling people "old men in dresses" and resorting to name calling, you are showing your true colors as someone who really has a bone to pick with a specific organization. This undermines your objectivity and your credibility along with it.
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A minority religion? You have to be joking.
So you're just dismissing the tens of thousands of cases because more aren't reported? That just one kid was molested is too many, yet apparently it's not enough for an apology for you.
There is a trend of abuse, whether you want to acknowledge it or not, and plenty of people do see it. And the joke highlights that trend, everyone knows that not EVERY priest is a pedophile...but I wouldn't trust a child to them.
No, I have a bone to pick with you since you're obviously an idiot. And I like adding more jokes and insults when you so obviously hate it. I'm siding with victims of sex abuse rather than those who prey on little children, so I don't need your approval, I'm pretty secure in which is right. Maybe you like little boys and that's why you're so defensive?
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Joking? Catholics are only about 25% of the USA, which makes them a minority. Protestants are the majority in the US, especially among Christians, so Catholics and Orthodox are therefore a minority.
I'm not dismissing all of the cases, just the ones that have no proof; which is most of them. The same could have been said for cases in which black people in the American South allegedly did something bad to white women.
Being a bigot while claiming you are "siding with the victims of sex abuse" is shameful. Shame on you. Maybe next you will "protect the honor of white women from black savagery".
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Oh so it's only the US that matters, I see. Never mind that Catholicism is one of the largest global religions and historically one of the most powerful. You're talking like it's some poor helpless religion that has no means to defend it self against all the evil people. What is it with religious people loving to feel victimised? Try being a Wiccan, that's a minority religion for you.
So you need proof before you believe something? Interesting, why are you defending a religion then, obviously you can't believe in God. You do realize there's still a lot of cases that have been proved and held up court and made the church apologize. And there's proof that the goddamn pope himself covered up abuse.
haha right, shame on me, caring for children getting molested, I'm a bad evil man. Those poor defenceless priests, they have no history of harming anyone, how could I? You're comparing real historical bigotry with made up false victimisation of actual pedophiles, pretty sure that makes you the bigot not me (how do you even know what race I am?).
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I'm not saying that what happened in those cases was right, and hell, let's face it, the Catholic Church is pretty screwed up right now, but it gets old after people constantly make jokes about the pedophilia cases. Honestly, I think there are actual victims who would be offended by the motivational - since it's pretty much cracking a joke about molestation. But really, I was almost entertained at the little sparring match you were having with the other guy.
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That's all speculation. Or just your opinion. If an actual victim said it was offensive and gave a reason, I would be interested to hear it. But also one victim doesn't speak for all of them, just because one victim could be offended doesn't mean all are. And that's not a reason to not make something controversial. I think it's more important that people know and remember what the Catholic church did, especially when they changed nothing about their practices to ensure it doesn't happen again and continue to try to cover up abuses (and start more shit with, say, women and birth control). If it gets old then it's just the joke that's not as funny (there are ways to make a joke fresh), the topic will continue to be relevant and important as long as the Catholic church keeps fucking people...literally and figuratively.
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"When they change nothing about their practices"? But seriously, what change in practices do you have in mind for priests? Ceremonial castration? And really, I think enough people know and remember what happened by now - plus, what abuse victim wants to hear some asshole trying to drag the dead horse of their expense and recycle the incident into a joke they keep trying to overuse? I really don't want to go there, but will joking about the Holocaust ensure that things will get better? (Yes, Godwin's Law, surprise surprise.)
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Sure why not, they're not supposed to be using it anyways. They could at least make an attempt at condemning the actions, rather than trying to hide them. I don't think everyone knows, they certainly don't think about it often, and many still just excuse it. What victim wants the whole issue to be silenced, and people censored, for the sake of a few whiny Catholics? If you don't like the joke that's fine, but that doesn't give you the right to say the joke shouldn't be told any more. And just because some people don't get the joke doesn't mean others don't still find humor in it. If the joke sucks then person telling it will probably discover on their own that it's not working. Especially online, if you don't want to hear the joke then don't click on it.
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I'm not disagreeing, they shouldn't have covered up the abuse. But you're right, not everyone; I'm sure there still are some people who live under rocks and don't interact with other people. 
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Obviously some people live under rocks, how else is Rick Santorum explained? No, actually I think the pedophiles are in a way victims of the system themselves, in that they're raised in extremely sexually repressive (and typically very authoritarian) atmospheres and made to live a life of total sexual abstinence and even deny their own sexual identities. That such a system with a history of abuse and covering up abuse, with such hostile and oppressive views of sex, would lead to certain people within that system as being perverted is not that surprising. I don't excuse pedophiles, but my real issues are with the Catholic church as an institution. From it's distorting history to fit their beliefs, to the killing and torture of countless millions, to the political corruption throughout history, to excusing if supporting of everything from slavery to nazism, to it's horrifying treatment of women that they still try to continue even today, not to mention their getting filthy rich making promises of salvation for the poor. Oh yeah and that their religion is total bullshit and has been so insanely forced on the rest of the world. A few pedophiles in the mix is just like a cherry on top of the mountain of atrocities that are the Catholic church. But the Spanish Inquisition isn't as fresh a topic as say the Netherlands saying just in December that there have been tens of thousands of cases of abuse the last 66 years in that country (there's obviously a problem).
You can make a joke about whatever you want. Though I wouldn't start booking venues if that's your closer.
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Nazism? Well, fair enough, I mentioned the Holocaust, I guess we're even.
So what are you saying, that if you practice abstinence you'll end up a sexual predator? In that case, watch out everyone! I'm on my way to becoming a rapist!
I could go on, but I really don't like getting into these arguments (and hey, I asked for it), and since you obviously have a bone to pick with the Catholic Church, maybe we should end it.
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There's plenty of evidence against Pope Pius XII, who either sat back and did nothing about the Nazis, or at worst was some form of sympathiser. Not to mention the current pope was a German soldier, though I know that doesn't mean he upheld their beliefs, it's still weird to choose a man as the head of a "moral" institution with that in his record. But to be fair the Catholic church was way ahead of Hilter when it came to persecuting the Jews, Pope Paul IV forced Jews in Rome to live in a ghetto way back in 1555.
No, I didn't say that, don't twist my words. I'm saying if someone is a part of a system of abuse, perhaps abused themselves, and if they have a sexuality the system looks down upon and can't openly acknowledge it, and if they have natural urges but are forced to suppress them, it's not surprising if the repression leads to some type of strange sexual issues. We're not talking about simple abstinence, this a church with a history of viewing women negatively, priests don't just not have sex but can't even touch women or even acknowledge their own sexuality (whether straight or homosexual or anything), abstinence and a life of total celibacy are very different things. Simply not having sex and having beliefs which make sex evil are two very different things. Being cut off from whole parts of society plus cutting off parts of your own emotions and biology is extremely unhealthy.
Oh I see so you really just don't like views different than your own, that's why you're upset with the joke. And I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you're Catholic?
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No, it's not that I don't like views different from my own, you are outright attacking my religion. And it's not even true. I honestly don't want to get into it though, it's something we both feel really strongly about, and it's not the joke, it's you I'm upset with. And no I'm not a Catholic, not yet anyway. That's why I can't give you a half decent rebuttal for shit.
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I'm attacking YOUR religion? But you're not yet a Catholic? I have no idea why you're becoming a Catholic if you're not already and why you feel so strongly to defend a dying religion. I wasn't even attacking YOUR religion, you commented on my conversation with someone else, not to mention Catholicism doesn't belong to you and I have a right to say how I feel about it especially when it has negative impacts on society. But you haven't even attempted to say what you disagree with exactly so to just say that "it's not even true" isn't a stance at all and doesn't exactly offer any evidence to the contrary. I hope you at least read up on the history of the church before you jump into it. I would start with the very beginning, as in finding where their bible comes from, who wrote it, and what evidence (or lack there of) there is for even the existence of Jesus. You don't like what I have to say because it challenges your beliefs, when religious leaders who are supposed to be held to a higher standard but commit some of the grossest acts of abuse and corruption then one has to wonder what makes them any real moral and religious authority at all. Yet you would also think I say these things as some godless atheist with a "bone to pick" with the church while knowing nothing of my own history with Christianity and Catholicism. So if you don't like what I have to say you can either choose to ignore it, defend your ideas against it with something that actually has substance, or try to find out why I have my views and research if there's truth in them (because hint, I've already researched Catholicism and Christianity). But don't try to paint me as a villain or clown, when you don't even know me, just off something you acknowledge you haven't researched enough to offer a response.
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LMAO, "those poor defenseless priest"....priceless.
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*sigh*
As an elderly person, you think its only for his worship.
Whilst most believe its just for pedophiles to get a free touchy-feely.
Im not explaining it any more than that.
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Not elderly sir.
Just didn't know.
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LOL; both at the picture, and at the EXTREMELY SERIOUS COMMENTS.
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just this dude taking it seriously, even though the description says its not supposed to be...
-_-
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Yea.. People are like that. lol
Makes for epic LULZ though.
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Obviously, you cant see someone questioning/joking about thier own traditions.
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so you ARE Christian?
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I beleive in God and I wuv Jesus Christ.
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