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Aurora-Storm In reply to ??? [2004-12-29 05:06:08 +0000 UTC]

Everyone has their own beliefs, and just because you disagree or have a diffrent view point doesn't make you any less right then the next person.

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systemofastef In reply to Aurora-Storm [2004-12-30 06:43:26 +0000 UTC]

Actually what he is stating is that the truth of the existance of God is real no matter if it is accepted or denied. Fact, science and logic have all pointed to its truth. I could elaborate...

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Aurora-Storm In reply to systemofastef [2004-12-30 07:08:29 +0000 UTC]

I'm not really sure what you mean by that.
I just think, if someone believes in something, it is real, but only to THAT person. And of course if others believe in it.

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systemofastef In reply to Aurora-Storm [2004-12-30 08:03:17 +0000 UTC]

What I'm saying is that the truth is real. Its not in our minds. Whether people accept that fact or deny it.

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Aurora-Storm In reply to systemofastef [2004-12-30 16:45:30 +0000 UTC]

Ah.. yes, the truth is real; but what in particular are you suggesting is truth?

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systemofastef In reply to Aurora-Storm [2004-12-30 17:59:30 +0000 UTC]

The truth of intellegent design of this world, there are many proofs. This all didn't happen my mere chance.

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systemofastef In reply to systemofastef [2004-12-31 07:24:56 +0000 UTC]

Everything happens for a reason, God talked to people back in history and he told them to write down his word, that is how the Bible came to be. The Dead Sea Scrolls just found, confirm the proof of the validity of the Bible. Nothing written about God or Jesus ever contradicts itself, therefore concluding that the logical reasoning and history all point to intellegent reason for our purpose and events in our lives.

We didn't just spring out of nowhere from unscientific evolution processes (which they believe was "coincidence" directly stating that there is no reason to be here). There has never been one transition from one species to the next, Darwin's book of evolution scientifically is a proven lie. Which shows that no matter how hard man tries to create the story of how we came to be, he will never achieve to disprove the real reason that God created us. No one ever has disproven the facts, prophecies or statements in the Bible.

Which shows that the truth is that life is not coincidence.

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Aurora-Storm In reply to systemofastef [2004-12-30 19:13:09 +0000 UTC]

Life is a series of coincidences. Perhaps, also, it started that way.

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systemofastef In reply to Aurora-Storm [2004-12-31 07:25:50 +0000 UTC]

Everything happens for a reason, God talked to people back in history and he told them to write down his word, that is how the Bible came to be. The Dead Sea Scrolls just found, confirm the proof of the validity of the Bible. Nothing written about God or Jesus ever contradicts itself, therefore concluding that the logical reasoning and history all point to intellegent reason for our purpose and events in our lives.

We didn't just spring out of nowhere from unscientific evolution processes (which they believe was "coincidence" directly stating that there is no reason to be here). There has never been one transition from one species to the next, Darwin's book of evolution scientifically is a proven lie. Which shows that no matter how hard man tries to create the story of how we came to be, he will never achieve to disprove the real reason that God created us. No one ever has disproven the facts, prophecies or statements in the Bible.

Which shows that the truth is that life is not coincidence.

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Aurora-Storm In reply to systemofastef [2004-12-31 21:01:09 +0000 UTC]

I believe, a long, long time ago, man created the Bible to explain things which at that time he did not have the knowledge to understand. He was afraid of the unknown, afraid of things he had no idea how they worked of came to be, so he created God to explain everything he himself did not understand. Although religious roots have planted themselves firmly within certain cultures, science has just begun to unveil the true nature of the world and everything around us.

I don't see how everything could happen for a reason. A lot of things in this world come about by accident. Neither do I see how life, as such, could simply come about in such a way as the Bible seems to portray. The first bit of the Bible I read where God creates the world and the heavens and such, gives neither proof nor reasoning for this action.

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systemofastef In reply to Aurora-Storm [2005-01-01 23:55:39 +0000 UTC]

Well, you see the Bible was written by many people, not just one person. The thing that makes the Bible so unique from every other text and religion is that the people who wrote the Bible, the books, verses and such all talked about the exact same thing. Nothing contradicts itself in the Bible and nothing can be disproven, actually, science is proving the Bible to be historical fact. The recent discover of the Dead Sea Scrolls shows that. The earliest writings were written 1,400 years before Jesus was born. And the prophecies that were written in those early years said that God would come and live among man. And the prophecy came true and Jesus was born.

Plus, all of the teachings and lessons from the Bible are still relevent today. If we evolved, how could old fact matter since we could just evolve from its learnings and grow? The fact is that humans did not evolve, and were the same since the very beginning. Science proves this by showing that not one transition from kind to another has been found, so apes did not become human. Evolution can also not explain where our personality, soul, spirit comes from. If we evolved, where did the knowledge comming into this world that we already know and dont need to learn, like how to breathe, blink, strive for survial, come from? This all shows that there must be someone with this information already at hand to give to us. That person is God. Evolution cant explain everything, or anything for that matter.

And our souls dont come about by accident, there is a reason for that. And the reason why God didn't want us to know every inkling of the way he created everything is because that would kind of make us like robots. Then everyone would have no doubt about his truth and all would believe in him. But he created us with a choice, to accept him, or deny him. Thats how you have faith.

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systemofastef In reply to systemofastef [2005-01-03 23:33:01 +0000 UTC]

The Bible writers, all 40 of them had no knowledge of any other person writing of God's account on the world. They were not a group, they were individuals. 66 books in the Bible, written by 40 people over the course of about 1,500 years. Thats a fact. And what you said is true also, over hundereds of years the Bible was written as a historical account of pure fact. Actually, it should really be used as a textbook because since this is the true account of the world, and since evolution is a huge lie. Its been proven by scientists that evolution is a lie.

Let me get to this to just prove the facts. Evolutionists believe that matter + energy = life. Proven, this is false because there is a missing element, life cannot occur with that formula. What they are missing is Information. We are all given knowledge at birth, a distinction, a way of learning and communicating. We are given a soul, a spirit. A mind in which we can think. The human brain, human DNA cannot simply evolve, it is impossible. DNA is a digital code, that distingueshes features, height, weight, family heritige, it is everything about that person. DNA is essential for life, to give an organism feature. It cannot just "happen". Plus, even if matter on the earth occured that many "billions" of years ago, they would be in the radiation of the sun, because, as the evolutionists state, there was no ozone back then. Also, given the above facts, how long could that first organism last if it was just simply created, the simplist organism? A second? Tenth of a second? A billionth? It could not last long enough to even evolve.

This is a test. Its called the Mt. Rushmore test. Now, how long do you think it would take for four beautifully carved faces to appear at the side of a mountain? Millions or billions of years? If you think about it, no, that is absurd. We know that intellegent sculptors and artists who knew the facial features and had the tools to get the job done created those faces in the side of the mountain. Well then how can evolutionists say that something so complex as a human being, or a peice of DNA happened by chance?

By the way, humans cant deny their instinct, they eat, strive for survival and search for meaning in life. Those are all instincts we have. The reason God gave us that particual instinct was so that we could find the truth in why we were really created by him. Yet, athiests make up this "billion" years theory and "ape men" just to deny that God is indeed real. All the fossils were accounted for, and they came with the conclution that evolution is no longer able to hold ground because after years and years of this theory, all the scientific evidence states that major evolution from one species to another is not only impossible it is absurd. Darwin had no proof of his theory, and all of the evolutionists still have no fossil evidence of what they claim to be "how the earth was really constructed". They are just too prideful to give in to the thought that, hey, maybe there actually IS a reason we are here afterall.

The Bible is not a theory, it was recorded in history from many scholars, average peoples and peasants. And yes, even skeptics. They have a say in the Bible as well, there questions are answered, but yet they still continue to deny because of pride. I'm just trying to give the good news to people. That they have no reason to question life anymore because the answers were written down for us. Yet pride keeps many from even touching that book. Which is quite sad.

Finally, I emphasize this, the truth is the truth wether one believes or not. Because we are not in control of the situations that occur. Science has proven this, even the recent tsunami has proven this. We are not in control, therefor, no human theory will ever be correct because we do not know everything. But the Bible is the word of God, not the words of men.

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Aurora-Storm In reply to systemofastef [2005-01-03 01:13:56 +0000 UTC]

Yes, the Bible was written by many people. Probablly a group of people who were looked up to as intelligeble leaders at the time, their people seeking answers. This process took place in cultures all across the world; that is why as a whole our Earth has dozens upon dozens of religons - Confucianism, Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Judadism, on and on.
Nothing in the Bible may contradict itself, but that may be a show of merely impecable planning; thinking everything out and making sure everything is in check.
Many people are raising questions of the authenticity of the Dead Sea Scrolls, and there is even more arguement of what they are specifically about, though it would be confirmed they are of religious referance. The chief catagories are agreed to be Biblical, Apocryphal / Pseudepigraphical, or Sectarian.

Evolution is a process that takes billions and billions of years. We are still evolving, as an entire race; and too, the world evolves around us. We MUST adapt and evolve. This is a natural process, an occurance of life. Our entire reason for becoming the creatures we have become is adaption. We were the cleverest, we adapted the quickest to our environments to ensure our continued survival. Certain apes with these clever survival traits, as such, branched off to form new colonies and over time became a completely seperate species, incapable of breeding or even friendly interaction with our primate cousins. Personalities are something everything capable of consious thought has. And, as for souls, not a single person still alive can prove their existance. Breathing, blinking, and survival are simply instincts that every animal is born with. Our brains are still evolving. As our thought process became more and more complicated, we began to deny our instincts. Humans are said to be the only animals on this entire planet who ignore their instincts.

Creationism is a theory. Even Evolution can still be considered a theory. We're all just people trying to answer questions that for millions of years have eluded us. This choice you speak of, too, is a theory. A person does not have to believe in a God to have faith in something, a person does not have to either accept or deny the theory of Him.

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systemofastef In reply to Aurora-Storm [2005-01-03 23:44:47 +0000 UTC]

The Bible writers, all 40 of them had no knowledge of any other person writing of God's account on the world. They were not a group, they were individuals. 66 books in the Bible, written by 40 people over the course of about 1,500 years. Thats a fact. And what you said is true also, over hundereds of years the Bible was written as a historical account of pure fact. Actually, it should really be used as a textbook because since this is the true account of the world, and since evolution is a huge lie. Its been proven by scientists that evolution is a lie.

Let me get to this to just prove the facts. Evolutionists believe that matter + energy = life. Proven, this is false because there is a missing element, life cannot occur with that formula. What they are missing is Information. We are all given knowledge at birth, a distinction, a way of learning and communicating. We are given a soul, a spirit. A mind in which we can think. The human brain, human DNA cannot simply evolve, it is impossible. DNA is a digital code, that distingueshes features, height, weight, family heritige, it is everything about that person. DNA is essential for life, to give an organism feature. It cannot just "happen". Plus, even if matter on the earth occured that many "billions" of years ago, they would be in the radiation of the sun, because, as the evolutionists state, there was no ozone back then. Also, given the above facts, how long could that first organism last if it was just simply created, the simplist organism? A second? Tenth of a second? A billionth? It could not last long enough to even evolve.

This is a test. Its called the Mt. Rushmore test. Now, how long do you think it would take for four beautifully carved faces to appear at the side of a mountain? Millions or billions of years? If you think about it, no, that is absurd. We know that intellegent sculptors and artists who knew the facial features and had the tools to get the job done created those faces in the side of the mountain. Well then how can evolutionists say that something so complex as a human being, or a peice of DNA happened by chance?

By the way, humans cant deny their instinct, they eat, strive for survival and search for meaning in life. Those are all instincts we have. The reason God gave us that particual instinct was so that we could find the truth in why we were really created by him. Yet, athiests make up this "billion" years theory and "ape men" just to deny that God is indeed real. All the fossils were accounted for, and they came with the conclution that evolution is no longer able to hold ground because after years and years of this theory, all the scientific evidence states that major evolution from one species to another is not only impossible it is absurd. Darwin had no proof of his theory, and all of the evolutionists still have no fossil evidence of what they claim to be "how the earth was really constructed". They are just too prideful to give in to the thought that, hey, maybe there actually IS a reason we are here afterall.

The Bible is not a theory, it was recorded in history from many scholars, average peoples and peasants. And yes, even skeptics. They have a say in the Bible as well, there questions are answered, but yet they still continue to deny because of pride. I'm just trying to give the good news to people. That they have no reason to question life anymore because the answers were written down for us. Yet pride keeps many from even touching that book. Which is quite sad.

Finally, I emphasize this, the truth is the truth wether one believes or not. Because we are not in control of the situations that occur. Science has proven this, even the recent tsunami has proven this. We are not in control, therefor, no human theory will ever be correct because we do not know everything. But the Bible is the word of God, not the words of men.

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Aurora-Storm In reply to systemofastef [2005-01-04 00:20:18 +0000 UTC]

Speaking again of evolution - if we did not evolve, what possible use could we have for an apendix?

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systemofastef In reply to Aurora-Storm [2005-01-05 01:33:15 +0000 UTC]

In the 1925 Scopes trial, which you are probably familiar with (you know the evolution vs creationism trial) They stated that about 180 vestigal structures were useless. Now, with more scientific knowledge we know that there is basically use for every single part of us, even the apendix. As an example for the obvious contradictions that evolution makes, I quote from source:

"The thymus, located between the lungs near the top of the breastbone, was once regarded β€œas an evolutionary left-over – useless, nonproductive, a source of no good and possibly of trouble.” It is now known that the thymus is the chief component of the body’s defense system.

One writer, an evolutionist, says that it is β€œmore complex than the defense system of any country” (Ratcliff, pp. 64,65). And yet, it is supposed to have developed entirely by accident."

The appendix does serve a purpose. It can be removed, but how our body was built shows that we were brilliantly designed with much reserve and for some organs to take over the functions of others. Science is showing that the appendix plays a part to our life -

In the 1997 Encyclopaedia Britanica you would assume of the appendix as this -

"The appendix does not serve any useful purpose as a digestive organ in humans, and it is believed to be gradually disappearing in the human species over evolutionary time."

Yet in 1976 medical textbooks were admitting to the use of the appendix -

"The appendix is not generally credited with significant function; however, current evidence tends to involve it in the immunologic mechanism."

In a 1995 medical textbook states this -

"The mucosa and submucosa of the appendix are dominated by lymphoid nodules, and its primary function is as an organ of the lymphatic system."

The fact that evolution causes a GAIN in information - this shows that; why would evolutionists say that humans have non usable functions when we must evolve into a use for everything we have today? This in fact is one of many contradictions evolution has. Unlike the Bible which has...lemme see...none.

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Aurora-Storm In reply to systemofastef [2005-01-06 22:37:27 +0000 UTC]

That's because science and evolution are ever changing, ever developing, and ever improving processes. Of course these things must contradict themselves at some point, which leaves room for arguement and, although sometimes rather sluggish, movement towards the truth (proof).
The Bible, according to yourself (I can't personally say, I've only read the first page or so) has no contradictions. This leaves no room for arguement, hence no room for improvement. But at the same time, I still do not see the reasoning of how the Bible explains creation. It simply said things were made, God said it was good and so it happened... ????

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systemofastef In reply to Aurora-Storm [2005-01-07 04:15:01 +0000 UTC]

Well if you think about it the one and only truth of this world would obviously leave no room for argument.
So in and of itself this shows that evolution, no matter how many times it is argued will never argue itself into explaining why this earth came to be. Scientists studying the earth made a replica earth model and all the calculations, the priciceness and precistion of the mathmatical properties are such in that (I think it was) if 1 in one thousanths were misplaced life would cease to exist. Which shows you how delicatly created our world really is.

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Aurora-Storm In reply to systemofastef [2005-01-07 04:26:23 +0000 UTC]

Hmmmmmmm. I see your point (I hope you've appresiated mine) but I still have no idea how so many people could, in my opinion, so blindly believe in something with no palpable evidence. : /

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systemofastef In reply to Aurora-Storm [2005-01-07 20:46:32 +0000 UTC]

Actually I gave you evidence, I'm not blindly following anything. The fact that the Bible has historical evidence, fact, date...and so forth is relevent and is something that cannot be just passed by and proclaimed as "blind". It is the only (I would say religion, but believing in God is not a religion) truth that holds out against all of the others. If you don't believe me, you can research it for yourself if you like.

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meihua In reply to ??? [2004-12-29 00:25:26 +0000 UTC]

no, i believe you're wrong, and I believe i'm right. it doesn't matter.

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inkbone In reply to ??? [2004-12-28 19:24:51 +0000 UTC]

-_-; little overboard there, my friend. But nice sermon if you were going to preach in a Church. I don't think Deviantart applies as a Church. Anyways, it's just milk.

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alooper21 In reply to inkbone [2009-02-14 20:48:38 +0000 UTC]

that's what they do with video-games, tell them is just pixels and they say "no, is imorallity!"

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FluoroBomb In reply to ??? [2004-12-28 18:56:12 +0000 UTC]

"Have you ever told a lie?... If you have every done any of these things, even just once, you are a sinner."

I told my grandmother a gift she gave me was nice, when in fact it was not to my taste.

Therefore, I told a lie.

Therefore, I am a sinner.

Therefore, I go to Hell when I die.

Therefore, trying my best not to upset an old lady makes me evil and I must be punished.

If I'm going to Hell for trying to do my best for someone even though what I say might not be true, then that's fine. I'll see you there.

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macaodghain In reply to FluoroBomb [2004-12-29 04:59:57 +0000 UTC]

When we drink, we get drunk.
When we get drunk, we go to sleep.
When we sleep, we commit no sin.
When we commit no sin, we go to heaven.
So, Let's get Drunk and go to heaven!

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Cracked-Ice-Concepts In reply to FluoroBomb [2004-12-29 01:04:16 +0000 UTC]

ROTFL!!!! Thats a good point.

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neo-rj In reply to ??? [2004-12-28 18:02:09 +0000 UTC]

oh shut up already


Neo / RJ

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poetsoul In reply to ??? [2004-12-28 17:21:10 +0000 UTC]

I think he likes the piece? no?

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neo-rj In reply to poetsoul [2004-12-28 18:03:34 +0000 UTC]

uh.. i'll ask him when he wakes up.
but i dont think he really likes milk.


Neo / RJ

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Scope2k4 In reply to ??? [2004-12-28 16:28:07 +0000 UTC]

Son you need some serious help to stop you from spamming those pages with reckless abandon.

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punkmuppet In reply to ??? [2004-12-28 15:08:12 +0000 UTC]

You are proper mental.

It's milk.

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stonefragment In reply to punkmuppet [2004-12-28 20:27:31 +0000 UTC]

i dont think they're mental but they could have chosen a better moment

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punkmuppet In reply to stonefragment [2004-12-29 00:36:23 +0000 UTC]

If we don't believe in the invisible man in the clouds who loves us all equally we burn forever.
If we do, we get wings and float about in the clouds with him.
If we talk to God, it's called prayer and it's fine, if we tell anyone he talks back we get locked up.

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stonefragment In reply to punkmuppet [2004-12-29 10:29:05 +0000 UTC]

I know it is tough. But I am a dedicated Catholic so I believe. I do see your points though.

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sittingduck In reply to punkmuppet [2004-12-29 05:41:19 +0000 UTC]

you know, last night i figured out, I AM god! I was praying, and I realized I was talking to myself

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links234 In reply to sittingduck [2004-12-29 08:11:24 +0000 UTC]

That's gotta be the best quote ever.

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sittingduck In reply to links234 [2004-12-29 15:04:37 +0000 UTC]

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centhwevir In reply to punkmuppet [2004-12-29 02:01:09 +0000 UTC]

Freakin' A... I don't disagree, but thats a bigass comment that doesn't really have anything to do with the picture slather-slab, and it doesn't help the cause of Christianity at all. Nobody ever bought something because they were spammed with it, and nobody was ever saved by spam either. I suggest you stick to posting things like that where it is actually relevant to the image, such as a religious or spiritual piece of art. You turn people off to God slather-slab, I suppose you don't feel guilty but you really should. I'm a Christian, but even I was slightly offended that you would post something like that in the middle of nowhere, with nobody asking for your advice, and nobody ready to accept it either. Have you ever had somebody shove their hand in your face and try to direct your actions by yanking your head back and forth? You won't get much positive response that way. Just a thought.

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Catara In reply to centhwevir [2004-12-29 03:15:44 +0000 UTC]

Actually I heard just the other night that there's actually nothing about a Rapture in the Bible. It was just a concept come up with by I think an English church minister or something like that. Thanks History Channel!

Oh, and I enjoy the pic as well.

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itsrainingpoetry In reply to Catara [2004-12-29 05:52:44 +0000 UTC]

There actually is a mention of a rapture in the Bible. In the very last book, Revelation, it says that those who have believed will be "caught up in the air" with Christ. The whole book is about the end of the world and the flowery language used is open to interpretation but it is commonly accepted that a rapture will occur. And this isn't meant to be rude or pushy so don't be insulted. I just thought you might want to know that there are logical arguments against scripture, but that's not one of them.

I really am not an in-your-face Christian, although I do not try to hide it by any means. I want to apologize for people that you may have met along your life's way (like this pushy comment that wasn't in proper context...at all. :-/ ) that have given it a bad name. I have found no greater joy, peace, or contentment than I do in the relationship I have with God but I also feel that the average believer doesn't express this in a way that is understandable and beneficial to anyone else.

I am sorry to have continued an already innapropriate string but I want to make it known that Christianity is not an unintellectual, moronic, or archaic and useless belief system. When followed properly, its people promote life, love, and respect for themselves and those around them.

ON TOPIC...I'd like to say that this piece is great. the composition is awesome, the entire thing is crystal clear despite it being an action shot, and the expression on her face is wonderful. you captured an amazing moment beautifully. congrats on the daily dev.!!!

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jinnybear In reply to punkmuppet [2004-12-28 15:13:57 +0000 UTC]

lmao~ u tell em

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Rondeaux In reply to ??? [2004-12-28 09:06:16 +0000 UTC]

Very "Psycho-tic."

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MattiaC In reply to ??? [2004-12-24 14:08:19 +0000 UTC]

this shot
is
alive

best regards,
matt

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evilpokejuggalette In reply to MattiaC [2006-11-13 17:47:56 +0000 UTC]

i agree

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MattiaC In reply to evilpokejuggalette [2006-11-14 08:14:13 +0000 UTC]

: )

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Transient-star In reply to ??? [2004-10-08 13:57:50 +0000 UTC]

I love it..

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owlie In reply to ??? [2004-08-20 03:24:34 +0000 UTC]

Wow! Shocking.

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Argocat8 In reply to ??? [2004-08-20 02:17:09 +0000 UTC]

wow what a fab shot... the expression is so shocked (apt titling)
is that milk?

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enchanted-black-rose In reply to ??? [2004-08-19 21:01:32 +0000 UTC]

Breathtaking. So stunning

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