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This is a DVD case designed in Illustrator CS4. I'm working on my typography.The back of the case reads:
The Bible holds the answers to life’s greatest questions. Your view of the Bible is the most important thing about you, as it determines your relationship to God. The Bible is God’s Word written, in essence God’s divine autobiography. The entire book is a revelation of God – from God, centered on Jesus Christ, inspired by the Holy Spirit. God is revealing Himself to us through His Word.
Any ideas, suggestions on how to make the typography better?
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Emberblue In reply to shadewalker-94 [2012-09-06 02:55:18 +0000 UTC]
This project is already completed. The client has already printed the cases. But if you have criticism I appreciate it and will keep it in mind for future designs.
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John--Vincent [2012-07-20 22:33:50 +0000 UTC]
In my opinion, the end of that sentence is missing a "to me". But the design is good.
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Emberblue In reply to John--Vincent [2012-07-21 00:07:55 +0000 UTC]
Thanks! The idea behind this was that the Bible is important for everyone, but I see what you mean.
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John--Vincent In reply to Emberblue [2012-07-21 06:55:02 +0000 UTC]
The importance of the bible is something personal to those believing in god. I myself am fine with you finding the bible important as long as you can respect that I don't
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Emberblue In reply to John--Vincent [2012-07-22 22:23:04 +0000 UTC]
It is your choice if you want to believe in the Bible or not. It doesn't change the fact that it is God's words written in a book form. Maybe a better way to word my last comment would be "The Bible is important period. Not just important to me."
Aside from it being a spiritual book, it is also important because it records history. And it is scientifically important too. There were things written in the Bible (like the earth being round and not flat, the way the stars and planets work, the way water evaporates from the oceans and becomes rain that falls on the land, etc.) these things were "discovered" by scientists later on...but these facts were already known by the men who were used to write the Bible. There are many reasons why the Bible is important.
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John--Vincent In reply to Emberblue [2012-07-22 22:27:52 +0000 UTC]
You know... it does. It does affect it. Because nobody knows. It's not a fact because it lacks physical proof. You believe with your mind that god brought the bible into existance, and I would rather believe in what can be seen and proven and that is that it's written by human hands - and so I will go no further in my assumption. Unless god is well proven to be behind it, I will assume that humans made it up.
Therefor, I believe it's important to some people who believe in it, and to people like me it's not. You believe that it's important to all people - but you will have to realize that this is just belief against belief. You cannot call it a fact, therefor: no period.
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Emberblue In reply to John--Vincent [2012-07-23 01:23:34 +0000 UTC]
If people made it up, then they were pretty damn smart! lol! Multiple ancient manuscripts have been found and there is plenty of historical and archeological evidence to show that the scriptures have been around for a very very long time. And like I said, they knew stuff back then that was not really known or discovered yet. The most impressive thing in my opinion is prophecy. Thousands of years ago they wrote down prophecies and so far they have come true 100%. Other religions and such have made prophecies but have not been 100% correct. That is a pretty impressive track record if you ask me. How were they able to know hundreds of things that would happen thousands of years in the future, and never make a mistake?
I don't know if you have ever looked into this stuff. But my belief is based on years of research and study. I hope that your belief is not just based on opinion.
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John--Vincent In reply to Emberblue [2012-07-23 09:05:32 +0000 UTC]
Neither has the bible been 100% correct, don't try to claim it is...
And my belief is based upon knowledge. God can not be physically proven and the bible making a few guesses right amongst loads of failure (can we walk on water just by believing that we can? Obviously not.) does not make it actual proof of a god. You can believe in a god without needing more proof than that, but then don't take the step to assume that everyone else has to do so too, unless you want to be run over by people who want all religion to die. There are atheists who are a lot harder on religious people than me.
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Emberblue In reply to John--Vincent [2012-07-23 15:21:03 +0000 UTC]
If you wouldn't mind, can you give me an example of a prophecy that was wrong?
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John--Vincent In reply to Emberblue [2012-07-23 15:46:44 +0000 UTC]
I just did Jesus claimed we could walk on water if we just believed we could. Test your belief. Fill a tub with water and try to walk on it. Catch it on tape and show it to me.
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Emberblue In reply to John--Vincent [2012-07-23 16:22:02 +0000 UTC]
I was referring to prophecy ( predicting the future) but ok, lets talk about walking on water.
I know of 2 times in the Bible when someone walked on water. One time it was Jesus (who being God, it doesn't surprise me He walked on water). The other time it was Peter. Peter said, "Lord if that is you, tell me to come to you on the water" and Jesus told Peter, so Peter was able to walk on the water. God told Him to do it and that is why he was able to walk on water. Did you actually read the story yourself? It does not say that anyone can walk on water just because they believe they can. This was one specific case where God told someone to walk on water and empowered them to do it.
If there is a place in the Bible where Jesus said anyone can walk on water, please let me know where it is. If I am missing something I will gladly look at it.
I'm really enjoying our conversation. I want to keep this a friendly conversation, so please do not take this the wrong way...but don't quote the Bible when you haven't actually studied it or know what it means.
I've run into so many people that misquote the Bible. They try to tell me what the Bible says when they haven't read it themselves.
Any others?
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John--Vincent In reply to Emberblue [2012-07-23 16:45:58 +0000 UTC]
So, if both science and the bible has said a lot of what science today covers (even though science also covers more), then what makes one thing more important than the other? The bible doesn't tell anything further that science may come to tell, but the bible is good enough for you. To you, science fucking sucks because you think the bible is better. For me, it's the opposite. Now exactly what makes one of our opinions more right than the other?
Relevance, maybe. When the very subject is in handy. Right now, our world is dying before our eyes, and that is when we need to use and teach science to the children.
At the same time, hope is also needed so during their free time, we can give them an open ability to find faith in religion.
Why does not religion have anything to do in school to solve the very issue? Because the bible doesn't say much about how we should solve it. The bible says we should get loads of children... which does not stop overpopulation, one of the reasons that the world is dying before us.
Why is science bad when it comes to bringing the hope needed for people to want these issues solved? Obvious: "Oh, the reward of not getting that extra kid? Uhm... well, humanity may exist long enough to be eaten by the sun. Doesn't that sound like fun?"
If people need faith as hope, then of course faith can be very important, but not everyone does. I believe I will be reborn in another universe. That brings me hope. That does not bring you hope, but what brings you hope does not bring me hope.
A balance between science and faith is needed. Too much faith will lead us to an overpopulated planet that solves issues with nothing but hope, and too much science forced upon us may lead to LOADS of people being depressed because many find no hope in science. Science can bring us to a certain point, but science cannot tell us about afterlife - and that is where faith should exist. To everyone personally. Noone should be forced to have faith, just like noone should be forced NOT to have faith, but caring for humanity's very best in THIS life should poke people in the eye until they agree to do as it says.
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Emberblue In reply to John--Vincent [2012-07-23 18:26:55 +0000 UTC]
You misunderstand me. I don't think Science sucks. I think Science is great. The point I was making is that people back then knew things that were not known, and it was because God told them.
On the contrary, the Bible has lots of answers to solve our problems. But people don't want to listent to the answers.
I agree that a balance of science and faith is needed. But I look at it a different way than you do. Contrary to popular opinion, faith (as described in the Bible) is not "blind faith" it is based on reason and fact, just like science is based on reason and fact. I fully support reason, logic, evidence, science, etc.
More and more science is proving that life forms are so complex there must have been a creator that designed them. The universe too complex to have just happened by accident. The odds are too great. I find that fascinating. As time goes by (and even though people want to deny it) science is proving that the universe was created by someone. Each year more scientists and college professors find themselves in a dilemma because they don't wan to believe in God but their findings point to the existence of God. I find that extremely exciting. Sadly, many of these highly esteemed professors change their minds to believe in Creationism and end up loosing their jobs over it.
I did a google search, here are a couple of examples among many. I can give you more if you like: [link] [link]
I cannot force you to have faith in God. But I will do my best so show you the evidence so you can decide for yourself.
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John--Vincent In reply to Emberblue [2012-07-23 19:15:35 +0000 UTC]
I am happy with the belief I have now, thanks. I used to believe there was a god, but I never believed that such a god would throw anyone into hell for not believing in him.
Therefor, I see no reason to have a belief that I don't believe in.
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Emberblue In reply to MichinTheCat [2012-05-04 16:10:31 +0000 UTC]
Thanks, I appreciate the encouragement.
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satan666v [2012-03-01 02:37:21 +0000 UTC]
I like the design - typography is fun! I agree that maybe making the word "bible" pop more would be handy.. maybe with a bit of that yellow/gold as a drop shadow? Or perhaps even making the pages yellow?
The only other thing I would say... is that you've got a lot of dead space on the top corners. I don't think it needs a lot, but it needs...something. It's sort of like when you're making soup and it just doesn't quite have that zest, but you have no idea what makes that flavor.
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satan666v In reply to satan666v [2012-03-02 03:04:02 +0000 UTC]
Maybe some sort of soft vignette...?
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Emberblue In reply to satan666v [2012-03-02 01:00:07 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for your input! Yeah, I know what you mean. I needs something, but I'm still trying to figure out what it is, lol!
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inhonoredglory [2012-02-29 05:40:53 +0000 UTC]
Awesome work! It looks so modern and unified. Ditto for the importance of the Bible!
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Emberblue In reply to inhonoredglory [2012-03-02 01:02:35 +0000 UTC]
Thanks!!! Glory be to God.
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SwordOfMessiah [2012-02-26 23:23:03 +0000 UTC]
it kind of reminds me of a pyramid with the triangular shape and the circle superimposed behind it.. i like the fluorishes but i think the colors are a lil bleh.. it needs something to make it pop out at someone as their shopping.
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Emberblue In reply to SwordOfMessiah [2012-02-27 08:17:08 +0000 UTC]
Good point. Thanks for your comments.
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violetasilvestre2011 [2012-02-25 20:25:17 +0000 UTC]
YOU´RE A GENIUS!I HOPE A LOT PEOPLE SEE IT!
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Emberblue In reply to violetasilvestre2011 [2012-02-27 08:11:11 +0000 UTC]
Thanks! To God be the glory!
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Pickles14 [2012-02-25 19:29:34 +0000 UTC]
I like this a lot. I would agree with xX-ibitsu-Xx to maybe lose the twirly moustaches altogether. To my eyes instead of embellishing the text, they are fighting for attention with it. By losing them the words "the" and "is" would be clearer. Or make the swirls thinner and less dominant. Other than that to me it works well.
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Emberblue In reply to Pickles14 [2012-02-27 08:10:34 +0000 UTC]
Good point. The twirly mustaches do compete with the words. Making them thinner is a good idea. Thanks!
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blueheron93 [2012-02-24 22:24:41 +0000 UTC]
"The" and "Is" are kind of hard to read. At first glance it looks like "Why Bible Important." Also, the mixing of pretty, loopy letters and techy letters throws the whole balance off. Mixing fonts can be done, but the fonts have to match well with each other. Maybe you could try using the font you used for "Bible" on "Why," "Bible," and "Important," and then use the techy font for "the" and "is."
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Emberblue In reply to blueheron93 [2012-02-25 03:10:58 +0000 UTC]
I see what you mean. Thanks for the input.
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Crafter-Jack [2012-02-24 17:25:44 +0000 UTC]
The typography looks a more 'techy' to me, like something for software. It is probably a cliche, but a more flowing script might serve the topic better. Not quite Old English.
I also noted that you used three different scripts. I'd keep it to one, and use color and size, like you already have to differentiate the focus of the words.
Also are the dotted lines and circles part of the program or design elements?
The reason I ask, is that the topic, religion, needs something less busy.
Good effort though! It is always a learning curve to getting this stuff going, but as with anything, just practice.
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Emberblue In reply to Crafter-Jack [2012-02-25 03:11:57 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for the input! I agree, it just takes lots and lots of practice.
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xX-ibitsu-Xx [2012-02-24 17:00:56 +0000 UTC]
Love the colors and the fonts, it draws attention to the right words in the right order I think. Not so big on the swirly designs around the "the" and "is", they rather look like twirly mustaches to me. I rather think that all holy books and philosophical texts are equally important, but I gather that's not really the point of this exercise.....
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Emberblue In reply to xX-ibitsu-Xx [2012-02-25 03:36:07 +0000 UTC]
It made me laugh out loud when you called them "twirly mustaches" lol! They kind of do! I had difficulty finding shapes that I could put to fill in the gaps between words and those swirls were the best I could come up with. I'm not in love with them either, but I'm not sure what other kind of shapes to use.
Since you brought up the topic...I'm not trying to say that the Bible is the only important book out there. But it is true that the Bible stands out above all books. If you think about it, comparing "holy books" from different religions reveals that they can't all be true. They contradict each other, so some of them are wrong. I think it is the logical thing to do to find which one is right.
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xX-ibitsu-Xx In reply to Emberblue [2012-02-25 16:07:00 +0000 UTC]
heehee, twirly mustaches indeed. Still a lovely overall picture ^-^
In terms of comparing the different holy scriptures/books/texts, I like to think that since they are all talking about some sort of infinite and generally omnipresent or omniscient power, and the human mind is only finite in it's capabilities, then absolutely none of them can be completely correct as it would be impossible to capture such unlimited knowledge with our own mind and limited language abilities. I think the value of these texts is in learning about all of them with equal reverence and respect, not in choosing one to be right or wrong, even if we tend to gravitate towards one in particular.
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Emberblue In reply to xX-ibitsu-Xx [2012-03-02 20:18:45 +0000 UTC]
Good point.
I think that God is able to make Himself known. Even if we can't know Him completely because our minds are limited, I think that He is more than able to let us know what is necessary.
But it is impossible to reverence all of them equally. For example, lots of religious texts teach that there are many ways to get to God. The Bible says there is only 1 way to get to God. That makes them mutually exclusive, so they can't both be right. They contradict each other. Additionally, the Bible is supported by Historical evidence, non-Christian historians, science, and prophecy.
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xX-ibitsu-Xx In reply to Emberblue [2012-03-02 23:22:05 +0000 UTC]
The only parts of the bible supported by historical evidence aren't the religious tenants of it, but fixed historical figures/people/places that did exist in some form or another. The same way there is evidence of the Buddha and Mohammed. All the religious aspects of any religion or philosophy must be taken on faith and belief, not through direct evidence. But yeah, I didn't say they were all right, or that any were correct, only that it is best to pay respect to all them to minimize conflict between religious persons of differing faiths no matter what one's personal beliefs are. There's also the problem of sorting out what in each holy text is edited in by man, and what could actually be the word of some sort of higher being. For instance, I don't actually think any god would approve of stoning anyone or anything, and yet it's in there...
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Emberblue In reply to xX-ibitsu-Xx [2012-03-12 20:16:41 +0000 UTC]
True, the religious aspects must be taken on faith. But faith is not "blind". Faith is actually based on reason. For example, if I sit on a chair I have faith that the chair will hold me up and I will not hit the floor. I have reason to believe that the chair will hold me up because there is evidence and past experience.
There is historical evidence that Jesus lived, that He performed miracles, that He died and rose from the dead. No other religious leader has done that. Besides, there are non-Christian historians who recorded that Jesus rose from the dead and that there were hundreds of witnesses. Additionally, Jesus claimed to be God. So if He was a good man and a good teacher, why would He claim to be God and the only way if He was not the only way? There is evidence that He lived and there is evidence that we must believe what He said.
The reason I am saying all this is because I care. How can I say that I care about people and not try to warn them when I see them making a mistake? I'm not saying this just for you, but for everyone. The reason that I say other religions are wrong is because I care about people and I don't want them to believe in a lie. The funny thing about modern day society is that people think they are showing love by not stirring up trouble, by saying everyone is right and just let everyone get along. But that is not love. Love warns someone when they are going to get hurt or go the wrong way. Love is willing to stand up and say something.
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ryuran123352 [2012-02-24 16:57:56 +0000 UTC]
I was raised Wiccan, but am the only one in my age group that I've met who's read the Bible Cover to cover. Makes it a lot easier to defend my beliefs if the people attacking them don't even fully know their own. My favorite passage thus far? "The Rules to sell your daughter" in the Old Testement. I don't understand why most copies of the Bible even have that section. Most sects only follow the rules they want to follow
I've also done the same with Qu'ran, the Apocrypha, and most of the books involved in Gnostic Christianity, and Christianity pre-council of Nicea
Note- I have nothing against Christians themselves really, unless they decide to have something against me first.
To the aritst- You need to make the word Bible pop more. I would suggest making it black, that way it is the darkest area on the cover, and thus, the focal point.
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Emberblue In reply to ryuran123352 [2012-02-25 03:22:44 +0000 UTC]
I've studied the Bible for years and years. And I've read it from cover to cover multiple times. And don't worry, I won't attack you.
There were lots of rules in the Old Testament that applied to their culture, which is very different from our culture today. But that doesn't mean those sections should be left out of the Bible. Among other things, the Bible is kind of like a history book. It is a written record of events.
I have many favorite passages. It is hard to pick just one as my favorite. I guess my favorite at the moment is John 1:1 because I was just studying it this morning. It talks about Jesus existing before time was created. It's pretty cool to think about.
Interesting that you say I should make the word "Bible" darker. Originally the word was darker and I lightened it because I thought it stood out too much, lol! Maybe I should try making it dark again, as it is the focal point.
Thanks so much for your input!
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ryuran123352 In reply to Emberblue [2012-02-25 08:32:57 +0000 UTC]
I'm glad you won't... A lot of people tend to
I find the fact that while Christ Preached "Judge not lest ye be judged", select groups of his followers have chosen to uphold a lot of the crueler rules of the Old Testament, for an overused but, to me, relevant example, of course, the judgement of homosexuality as a sin, when the passage they base it on is vague at best.
They could keep the past in tact in writing, I wouldn't mind that. It's that people still practice based on it that bothers me.
Many of my favorite Christian religious texts were removed... If you ever get the chance, I advise "The Book of Enoch". It's... beautiful. And talks about many of the angels not mentioned in the main stream
When you think about it, time has been proven to be a man made construct, so God, Christ, whomsoever exists in the realm above could easily have existed long before time was created... Really before "Fiat Lux" (let there be light) there was no such thing as time
It's what I noticed. My eyes kind of bounced all over the place. I'm happy to help someone I can respect ^^
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Emberblue In reply to ryuran123352 [2012-03-02 20:50:43 +0000 UTC]
To be honest, most people misunderstand the phrase "Judge not lest you be judged". It is misquoted so often.
The New Testament talks about Homosexuality too. The Old Testament is not totally outdated though, and still serves a purpose. If you do a summery of the whole Old Testament you see that the main idea is that it points to the New Testament. The Old Testament shows us that we are sinners separated from a holy God and in need of a Mediator to bridge the gap between us and God. The New Testament shows us that Jesus is that Mediator and that He provided a way for us to be with God.
This link describes why the Apocrypha (The book of Enoch is part of the Apocrypha) is not accepted in the Cannon of Scripture: [link] And here is some info on how it was determined which books would be in the Cannon of Scripture: [link] Just because someone wrote a book does not make it automatically a holy book. There must be determining factors. Makes perfect sense to me.
I think it will be interesting to see what it is like when we die and are no longer confined to time.
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ryuran123352 In reply to Emberblue [2012-03-02 22:26:26 +0000 UTC]
It is....
I suppose looking at it that way it makes sense. But, I'm an outsider gazing in... My understanding is from some classes and my own research. Not from church, so just reading cover to cover, I miss things. And likely as not, because I've only read two different versions of the Bible, one from a gay friendly denomination, it wasn't included.
I know it's Apocryphal dear n.n I've read most of the Apocryphal texts. The Gospels of Judas, Mary Madelena, et al. Many of them originally were canon. They were removed in the councils of Trent and Nicea in the 300s. Fun fact: The closest remaining Bible to the pre-councilary version is the version used by the Ethiopian Orthodox church. It still includes the book of Enoch. They consider themselves a Gnostic sect.
I don't necessarily believe God, if such a being exists had much input into what went in. And HIS word has already been muddled because of how many times the Scripture has been translated and re-translated.
It will be.... Though I believe in reincarnation, so I will not be without time for too long.
I must say, it's been lovely talking to you. Thank you for being calm, collected and factual. I very very much appreciate this being a friendly discussion as opposed to what so often ends up argumentative.
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