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I just can't stand fans of Misty.Most of immature people who are fans Misty are:
1.People think Pokemon is far off worse when Misty left
2. support only pokeshipping and only make fanart dedicating to it and oppose all others.
3. Hate everything about Serena for false and/or unjustified reasons.
4. Saying she should come back even though the Pokemon company said she would never come back as a female protagonist
5. Saying she should be in a spin-off or replace Ash as the new protagonist.
6. Saying she has the best personality
7. Saying she has the most development.
Every Misty fan I see just wants me to hate Misty dispite the fact that Misty was a great character
I'm just sick of it.
Misty belongs to Shopro, nintendo, etc
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i have a freand who actually is a bit more in control then most of her fans
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1. People who think the series got worse after she left as a main character are clearly just bitter Pokéshippers. These people are only so desperate for Pokéshipping to happen and want nothing more than that, but they also ignore or seem to forget that Pokéshipping was barely present over the course of the entire original series, very few hints that mean so little to nothing for either Ash or Misty, and once we got to "Gotta Catch Ya Later!", Ash and Misty have only accepted one another as friends, their last dialogue with one another clearly never had anything to do with love. I myself think that the Pokémon anime did indeed get better after she left, but it's not because she left that the anime got better, it's because ever since she left we were introduced to main female characters who had more importance in the series than Misty ever did, but I'll get to that later, and also because Ash began to grow more.
2. All shipping fandoms have a toxic following, it isn't just Pokéshipping.
3. They only hate Serena for actually having romantic feelings for Ash, the fact that she and Ash met one another years prior to the beginning of the series, the fact that she treated Ash the most like a mature adult and how she was one of Ash's key sources of inspiration that's consistently the reason he was able to win 3 of his Gym Badges, all of which they clearly view as a threat to Pokéshipping, so clearly they are just bitter, as always with any other "Ash and main girl" pairing, and jealous. Worse, they would even go as to spreading lies about her like how she stalked Ash which isn't true, anyone who's seen the series should know that Ash actually invited Serena to travel with him and even expressed excitement when she actually accepted the invitation and all she wanted was to see him again and return his old handkerchief back to him, Misty, on the other hand, did stalk Ash to the point where Ash asked Misty why she's following him and called her annoying when she gave him the bike excuse.
4. Again, these people only want her back as a main character for Pokéshipping to happen. Not only do they ignore the confirmation that she's never returning as a main character, but they also ignore how, according to one of Takeshi Shudo's old blogs, Misty was only a main character to draw attention of girls under the thought of the anime having boys only would be “tasteless” for them. Clearly, they were never planning to do something big with Misty, nor were they going to make her relationship with Ash into something more than just friends, she was only there just to attract female viewers. And now that we've had May in Advanced Generation, Dawn in Diamond & Pearl and even Serena in XY providing so much more in the anime than simply attracting female viewers, there's no point in bringing Misty back as a main character, bringing Misty back as a main character won't add anything to the series, but again I'll touch on that later.
5. My only guess is that they've never heard of Pokémon Chronicles.
6. Honestly, I don't know what people see in Misty's personality, considering that it generally consists of her being lackadaisical, passive and procrastinate, but I'll get to that in the next point.
7. Remember when I said a while ago in this comment that ever since Misty left we were introduced to main female characters who had more importance in the series than she ever did, how bringing her back as a main character won't add anything to the series and how her personality consists of her being lackadaisical, passive and procrastinate? This is where I further explain why all of this is definitely the case. What some people don't realize or take high consideration for is how much Misty progressed towards her own goal in becoming a Water Pokémon Master. If one actually watches the whole original series, they would be able to see that Misty didn't really show any progress or ambition to achieve her goal. And why might that be the case? Because she rarely participated in any activities that will help her get better at becoming a Water Pokémon Master, she only competed in 2 competitions, both of which took place in Johto. So taking that into consideration, Misty has done absolutely nothing in both Kanto and Orange Islands and almost did nothing in Johto in regards to her own goal, and that's rather absurd considering she is the one main girl in Pokémon that stayed in the group the longest. One must really think about it, the original series lasted for 274 episodes and so one would expect Misty to have a lot of progression only to see and realize she actually has the least of it, this further shows that the people who made the original series had no consideration for how much Misty progresses as a character and instead only brought her in as a main character to attract female viewers. The only development she had gone through is her becoming less of an angry jerk towards Ash. Besides that, she is the same person as she was when she was in the beginning of the series because she has done nothing for her own well being. She had plenty of opportunities to get better, but rather than taking them, she instead chose to hold back Ash.
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I actually HATE Misty. I never liked her as a character to be honest.
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True for That
Her Fanbase is The REAL Reason I Hate Her
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Misty deserves better fans. I like her for who she is.
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What can I say,most of the points are true.
Dont call it immature just because you dont agree. I think thats really immature.
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Care to explain?
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x) Good luck with that....
Erf, you know, we could say the same about Serena.
When I speak about Misty it's without aggressivity but how many time I get something like "Shut the fuck up", "Misty fans can killed theirself","In your face!", "don't speak bout another shipping than Amourshipping, it's the only one official now you have no reason to like the anime anymore" and so on... In fact it just start to make me Hate the anime...
1. The thing is that it's not really because Misty left. The probleme is that a this moment of the serie, episodes were so boring. Not because of the characters, but because of the scenario. it was just the pokemon and the badges according to the game and every episodes were the same (speaking of season 4 and 5) and brock and Misty, as the team rocket were in a loop of the same gags, and just simple followers. Then they decided to change a character. But.... it didn't change anything, so they changed again in the next gen... and so on... but it wasn't not so interesting as in the first 3 seasons because they were just following the games and the chracters seems not really alive. THEN they started to have better graphic, and show the personality and feelings of the protagonists deeper. and it started to be more interesting. But the probleme is that a lot of fans were waiting for that since years. And the moment they start, it's with a new girl...
2. Sorry but it's not true I saw pokeshippers made drawings for other shipping fans and I saw others shippers hating pokeshipping and being rude and agressive. there are good and bad guys in every communities.
3. Same for Misty. A lot of Serena (or other) fans say that Misty were bad, or that they hate her for what she did to Ash. At this point, I don't know what they are talking about 
4. Understand... there were hints, for sure. So plz imagine, you support the pokemon team, anime or game, you like it and so on during years. And one day one of your favorite character, Misty, is removed and writers said "We made a mistake and as Misty was here just for luring gilrs, we remove her" yeah maybe ok but... the probleme is you succeed with Misty, there's a big community, removing her is not the solution. So now please assume the fans... and sometimes there were some episodes and Ash rememberings.
She came back sometimes and Ash spoke about her various times. She was the first female protagonist and was an important member.
And she and pokeshipping stayed popular during years because it was the only one with Ash's evidences too and the relation between these two had been stronger than between Ash and another girl during years. And the reason for not continuing or starting shippipng was "Shipping can't take place in pokemon because it would change the scenarios and Ash must keep following the heros of each games". so obviously there was a hope that sometimes she came back for some episodes, and that at the end of the anime a hint or evidence will existe for pokeshippers. If you were one of these fans, you were hopping the same during years. And you see, finally writers changed their mind about giving a love story to Ash. Not as much as we (pokeshippers) wanted to, because it's not with Misty... but they changed their mind on one point at least.
5. That's one of the thing they want, this can't be a problem. It's what some of them want, let them dream. There were people who wanted a pokemon anime with a more mature and less dumb hero. They had it. Can't we blame them for that? No. It's the same for pokeshippers that want a spin-off with Misty. Misty was a really important character in Ash development in the first seasons. Lot of people loved her even if pokeshipping was only implied. Imagine if at this time pokeshipping was as clear as Amourshipping is today...
6. It's the same. it's what they think. Serena's fans think Serena has the best personality too. And it's the same for the others shippers. The fact is that Misty is incredibly different from the other. May, Dawn and Serena could be the same stereotype (ok maybe Serena is a less confident). But what's became interesting with Serena was not really her personality (originality, determination, level) (not saying that she not cool, just she not more original that the others girls) but the fact that writers show us more about her (her childhood, her feelings...), well they made the characters more alive. But Misty, without this treatment, was a really interesting character. Even if sometimes she's scream on Ash. Ash was a little retarded x) and Brock was in love with all the girls. The three of them had something annoying. But she was smart, loyal, strong. The stereotype of the strong and independant girl, the active girl, not the one that needs to be saved every time or that lives for a boy. She saved Ash many times and helped him, sometimes in a psychological way sometimes when they had troubles.
Serena has its qualities too 
7. As I said, at this time the character development was not really important for the writers (in the anime, because Shudo wanted to go deeper with his novel). But the fact that Misty had more reactions, emotions and feelings made misty's personnality the more developed. Plus we used to see Ash complicity with Pokemon, but the only human character that Ash had complicity with was Misty. I don't speak about frindship but real complicity, something that did not existe with brock or another. So it helped.
So now things are different for sure. Writers have not the same vision than before, and what used to be a big hint/evidence or a developed personnality is not the same since XY because they understood that having a love story in background would keep people.
Now what I personnality think it's that it's unfair. They had to continue with no keeping the girls or at least, get the more popular already existing shipping and make something with that instead of creating a new character. I think fans deserved it. And honestly I'm sur that if they did that with another girl like Misty it would have become the same big thing. People would love the new shipping because for the first time, it's not just hints.
But for sure, no one have to be rude or unrespectful, no matter its favorite shipping.
Hope I helped. Now enjoy
Something that we were waiting for years and thought will never happen in Pokemon will finally happen... but not for us...
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I challenge anybody to read the comment below in one attempt.
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"1.People think Pokemon is far off worse when Misty left"
In a way it is. Sure, there are instances before then that weren't particularly good about the show, like Ash not only leaving his Pokémon, but at times failing to deliver on his promises of seeing them again someday, or how half the gym leaders didn't involve actual wins, or Charizard's departure, or any of that, but I'm pretty sure having the Gym Leaders either being depicted as Team Rocket-style wusses who lose to rookie Pokémon or even a braindamaged trainer, or even if they were given the respect deserved, they were needlessly overpowered to such an extent that they made Pikachu look bad especially after a fairly major accomplishment, constantly treating the characters as used goods to be disposed of after a series and yet keeping Ash even when logic dictates that they have no reason not to remove him, once even replacing a girl character with someone else only for that someone else to conduct the exact same goal as her; constantly treating Ash like garbage, not letting him win one league even when all logic should dictate that he win a league, especially including how the next gen series doesn't even HAVE a league anyways, in one case making him even MORE of an idiot throughout the series than Kanto league Ash ever was [and that guy at least had inexperience as an excuse for some of his brainless decisions], ruining various characters by the time of AG to come across as shallow parodies who don't even FOCUS on their goals at all (ie, Brock), not giving a lot of the girls actual decent and unique personalities (May's the closest they've come to that regarding character development, and from what I can gather Iris is probably the only girl besides Misty who might not fall under the cookie cutter female stereotypes in Anime, and even then thanks to just how awfully done BW was done, she doesn't have much else besides that to fall back on.), among others including making Sun and Moon a slapstick fest over even something relating to battles can make certainly make the case of the show getting worse after she left (and the declining ratings even in Japan certainly don't help matters either).
"2. support only pokeshipping and only make fanart dedicating to it and oppose all others."
Just because I'm a Misty fan, doesn't mean I'm a Pokeshipper. In fact, I don't even do shipping at all for the anime franchise, let alone Pokeshipping. Want to know why? Simple. Because most of them don't deal with love at first sight, and even in the one case it IS arguably used with Amourshipping, Ash not only doesn't reciprocate Serena's painfully obvious feelings for Ash, he doesn't seem to even REALIZE she has feelings for him.
"3. Hate everything about Serena for false and/or unjustified reasons."
Honestly, if you said "hate everything about May/Dawn", then I'm guilty as charged (though that being said, I DO have quite a few justified reasons for hating them, like the fact that they were largely the same as those Fiorello Fangirls from Princess vs. Princess, or the girls from Love Hina, Battle Vixens, or even Maron from DBZ, not to mention May pretty much acting like a coward late in the Manaphy movie when Phantom kidnapped the titular character AGAIN and made absolutely NO attempt to save him even when it's pretty obvious she had the means to do so via her Squirtle, while Misty at least MADE an effort to save Oddish, that Marrill, and Togepi when they were in similar danger, and how, quite frankly, she had no business being a trainer in the first place, let alone traveling with Ash, when she hated Pokémon anyways, not to mention in her "goodbye" due to how rushed it was, she didn't seem to have any gratefulness to Ash, not being sad and if anything was too glad to leave him, only her brother Max was even remotely sad.). However, I am neutral to Serena due to not even WATCHING XY at all, unlike AG and DP, where I at least saw enough of it to see them for what they were (including one movie for AG, namely Manaphy). Of the reasons I might have issue with regarding Serena, most of them have absolutely nothing to do with Misty at all so much as how she was written, like how, similar to May, she had no real reason to be a Pokémon trainer, especially when she didn't have a goal a third of the way through the series, literally, which even May at least had considered Gyms before settling on Contests; or how her reaction to losing her first contest was to give herself a haircut, which was a major overreaction, or how she didn't catch a single Pokémon until almost midway through the series). The closest I have to actually disliking her for reasons relating to Misty was the whole childhood friend crap she pulled, and even there, 1., that's mostly because it was poor justification for her to join Ash, 2., they only met once and Ash just acted nice to her, and 3., canonically speaking, neither her nor even Misty were Ash's first female childhood friend despite what Serena and XY liked to claim. Remember Molly Hale from Movie 3? She and Ash knew each other since they were little, meaning she would have qualified as friends during that time, and have FAR more of a claim at actually BEING childhood friends than Serena can.
"4. Saying she should come back even though the Pokemon company said she would never come back as a female protagonist"
Yeah, and they also said none of Ash's Pokémon that left him (by that, I mean actually left him, not just placed under Oak's watch) will ever return on a full time basis. Yet Charizard DID. Heck, Goodra managed to do exactly that in XY in time for the league (though he did leave for good afterward).
"5. Saying she should be in a spin-off or replace Ash as the new protagonist."
If allowing her to have a spin-off or replacing Ash will allow her to actually pursue her Water Pokémon Master goal instead of being forced to put it on hold thanks to her sisters, then yes, I most certainly would want a spin-off or have her replace Ash if that's what it takes. I do not like it when a character is forced to change his or her goals against her will. Let me put it in perspective, that's like how, say, May when about to leave Johto gets an emergency call from Norman telling her that he is incapable of running Petalburg Gym for whatever reason and requires that she return to run the gym in his stead despite her clearly wanting to go to Johto for contests as a hypothetical. Would you think that was even remotely a good end for her? It's the same deal with Misty.
"6. Saying she has the best personality"
Considering that two of the girls that came after her generally used a stereotype of girls in frequent Anime such as Love Hina, the closest thing she has to a successor, Iris, was badly written to basically come across more as a bully and something of a hypocrite, Serena's development from what I've heard was largely a trainwreck for most of XY, even when she DID get a goal, Brock got reduced to a womanizing character akin to Glenn Quagmire, Max got screwed over due to being underage and thus of limited help, and how Ash is practically a Butt Monkey who can't even do anything right, many times due to crappy luck conspiring against him, among others, I'd say saying Misty is at the very least among those who had the best personality if not absolutely had the best personality overall is perfectly justified.
"7. Saying she has the most development."
She definitely had more development than Dawn, Iris, Serena, Cilan, Bonnie, and the like from what I've heard of the latter ones (I've seen Dawn, and quite frankly, from the few episodes I did watch, not to mention episode discussions, she really didn't change all that much character wise. Sure, she won matches, but so did Ash, and he's not exactly what one calls a developed character.). Probably the only one of the main characters who MIGHT rival her in terms of character development, I hate to say it, is May, due to her at least changing over the course of AG from a person who hated Pokémon and didn't have any business as a trainer to someone who takes Pokémon Coordinating seriously. None of the other characters actually had that kind of development (they either stay the same in terms of personality as before, or in the case of Brock and to some extent Ash actually regress in terms of personality development.). Yes, Misty even received development in Johto.
EDIT: Oh yeah, and I forgot to mention this bit in the first point. They also dropped golden opportunities to bring about a reunion that at the same time actually WOULD advertise a concept of the games in Black 2 and White 2, the Pokemon World Conference. That would have ensure that not only Misty got a return and potentially actually resume her goal, but even have the likes of Brock, May, and Max return due to it involving fighting Gym Leaders from the first four regions. Who wouldn't want to see that element of the games there? They dropped a good story plot.
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Okay, because you even said yourself that you didn't even watch xy,
here's a video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6_W1K…
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I'll try to see the clip in the near future. Granted, I'll probably watch with the sound off, but I'll definitely make sure to watch it (hope this doesn't affect our boycott).
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As crypto456 will say "Ash x Misty = toaster (plug in) x bathtub (with water)"
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1. That's subjective. I personally think it got better after she left. Not because she left but because we had better female characters and Ash began to grow more.
2. Not all Pokéshippers are bad, every shipping fandom has a toxic following. I'm a HUGE amourshipper and I know how bad we can be. But yeah those HARDCORE Pokéshippers really are a nasty bunch, a lot worse than Pearl or Amourshippers. But I don't mind who people ship as long as they aren't going out of there way to sink the ships of others.
3. I hate that myself. I can accept people having a negative opinion on characters I do like, but in a discussion I feel like one should be able to justify why they hate/like a character. A good number of Pokémon fans I've spoken to who love Misty and hate Serena do hate her for unjust reasons primarily for her crush on Ash which isn't a reason to hate her considering it's implied that Misty herself like Ash. Call Serena a stalker but seemingly forget Misty initially was stalking Ash, to the point where he even OUTRIGHT asked her why was she following him. Serena on the otherhand seemingly didn't intend to travel with Ash, she just wanted to see him again and return his handkerchief and began traveling with him because ASH ASKED HER to travel with him. Despite that crush, Serena's grown rather well as a character.
4. I can't say anything about that, since a lot of people say the same for May & Dawn and if Serena doesn't get to go to Alola (God willing she does) I'd definitely say the same thing for Serena. But I will say Misty hasn't been seen in the anime outside of flashbacks since the Battle Frontier and that was 10 years ago I believe.
5. I've never heard that but I do recall her getting a couple of episodes in Pokémon Chronicles which I thought were decent but nothing special. Pokémon Chronicles was kind of hit and miss for me. The Raikou trilogy I actually REALLY enjoyed but everything else after that...meh.
6. That's subjective as well. If it's being shoved down someone's throat than it'd be an issue. I don't really like tomboyish characters too much.
7. I think May, Dawn, & Serena developed more than Misty ever did. I think people have different interpretations to what character development is but for me, Misty hardly changed at all even degraded during the time she traveled with Ash.
- Misty began stalking Ash than took up the mantle of his Co-Mentor along with Brock but once Johto came around she didn't really do much.
- May began as a naïve and somewhat selfish trainer who only became a trainer so she could travel the world. She didn't care about Pokémon at first initially but found coordinating along the way, became a good trainer in her own right, and wound up adoring not just her Pokémon but all Pokémon in general.
- Dawn was a bit overconfident at first with her abilities which led to her getting eliminated from two contest back to back in the appeal round which took a massive toll on her confidence so much so that she'd even decide to skip contest I believe and challenged a gym to boost her spirits. Afterwards she began to take a new approach to contest and found greater success in coordinating than May did.
- Serena began traveling to see Ash again with no goal in mind aside from that reason alone. She was initially a girly girl who didn't like getting dirtier but would throw that out the window to save her Fennekin showing shades of development. Once the Pokémon Summer Camp Arc. started that's when her development began to take out and by the time she won her first showcase Ep. 80 she'd already developed more as a character than Misty ever did in her entire run with Ash.
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even takeshi shudo doesn't like Misty.
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Actually, that might not actually be true, based on this post:
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..................what foolishness does it take to offer me a comment as evidence!?
And even more to actually BELIEVE IT!?!?!?
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Did you even READ the comment? The person cited a Pokémon novelization, which had in fact been written by Shudo, second volume of it more specifically, where they actually included elements of Pokeshipping. Specifically, an old man asks if Ash was Misty's fiancé, and Ash denies it, pointing out that he's too young to even think about it anyways, and the old man basically makes an allegory regarding Nidorinos and Nidorinas that implies that, yes, they may in fact be an item. And that came directly from something Shudo wrote. It's insane to claim he didn't at least toy with the possibility of Pokeshipping in one of the few things he can definitely lay claim of directly writing if he didn't even like it or want it (and by extension, it also indicates he doesn't have a problem with Misty at all). And this is speaking as someone who isn't even a Pokeshipper. You should look that novelization up, even buy it from somewhere like eBay if you must and then read it if you can. I'll even give you the name: It's called Pocket Monsters the Animation, and it came in at least two volumes. I'll even show you a page from that novel:
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And ignoring all of that, use common sense, if he didn't like Misty, why did he wait until the very end of Johto to remove her (five years after her debut I should add), or heck, even wait until Johto at all to remove her? Had I been in his position and I hated Misty, I would never have included her in the main cast at all, certainly, I would have removed her during the Orange Islands instead of removing Brock, or maybe even in addition to removing him. Heck, why wait there? He could have easily removed her by the seventh episode at the earliest, perfect opportunity to get rid of her, or heck, maybe even Princess vs. Princess or The Misty Mermaid, best place to grant her closure regarding her family at least. He had plenty of opportunities to remove her far earlier than he did especially if he didn't like her, yet he didn't.
And for the record, here's the full post:
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EDIT: Here's a scan from Volume 2, namely, the one I suspect that person in that post was referring to:
pokescans.tumblr.com/image/140…
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I think I've heard that, I've heard Serena is the favorite Pokégirl of the creator of Pokémon Satoshi Tajiri
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Explain what?
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how serena is takeshi's favorite
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That's just rumor I've heard. I've tried to find anything I could online elaborating on it but came up short. I tried to search for it but only found a couple of discussions mentioning it.
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All of Ash's female companions have something to admire. S'all I'm gonna say.
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do youstill watch pokemon?
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I've checked out a few episodes of X and Y, but I'm mostly watching the earlier seasons at the moment.
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did you watch DP?
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Yeah. Diamond and Pearl is one of my fav seasons.
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I enjoy that season too. Basically, everything after Sinnoh I wasn't too crazy about. (I don't hate the newer seasons, I just didn't enjoy them that much)
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1. XY may be the best series since Hoenn. It's Pokemon as a whole that kinda sucks because any development gets sacked in the long run, evolution of the Pokemon themselves notwithstanding.
2. I am actually taking a liking to AmourShipping, albeit not as much as PokeShipping, but I think Ash NEEDS a gf. And to age. And to win a tournament. And to catch more Pokemon. And other things.
3. I think Serena may be the best female protagonist SINCE Misty (May and Dawn are entirely interchangeable and Iris was butchered like everything else in BW)
4. While their remarks about that were sexist at worst and lazy at best, I can see their reasoning. I disagree passionately, but I see their reason.
5. She got two episodes in Chronicles. Let's leave it at that, shall we?
6. Far from it. Serena is slowly becoming my new best of Ash's female traveling companions.
7. Serena has more development over 60 episodes and a haircut than Misty did on over 200.
But that's only my opinion.
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Opinion accepted.
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Thank Arceus not everyone on the internet is a raving lunatic.
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There are some fans of her who are really mature but yeah,many of her fans are immature and nearly made me hate the Fandom.Most of them call and tell me bad things just because I love another pokegirl more than Misty.
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really? They can't accept the fact that you like Serena? That's just sad.
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Yeah it is.After all,we all have a opinons about things.One person that makes me sick is AdvanceArcy.They had a stupid reason to hate Serena and Amourshipping.
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No wonder why she hates Serena desperately...
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Yep and please put down the weapons and keep calm.
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Have this sword called Frostmourne instead.
But yeah, I can't stand those who hate a character because they interfere with their ship. Serena knew Ash as kids, misty and may fans hate her, though luckily I haven't seen any dawn and iris fans hate on her, unless I missed something.
Also, why keep calm when you can KILL.(insane laughter)
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Some Dawn fans hate Serena because they think she is Dawn 2.0
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6 & 7 sound like tha weakest reasons to hate em unless they happen to be tha kind that vocate their subjective "opinion(s)" as if they were "objective" fact which in that case you would do better to hate those kinds of general fans instead of isolating it to Misty Fans|
4 is another contender 4 worst because that's just an opinion like tha 1st unless they haven't found tha right vocation yet again|
5 OK I can understand the hate(partially)in regard to those saying to do away with Ash BUT if'n she got her own spin-offf...they might become alot less annoying to not at all 4-U so it's win/win right there|
2 is one I don't really understand but when you say "oppose" then it sounds like part of a complete reason in theory|
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