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EndlessWire94 — MLP Controversy Meme V5

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Published: 2019-09-04 22:18:56 +0000 UTC; Views: 5258; Favourites: 20; Downloads: 2
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Description With the last of Season 9 having been leaked to the Web in English, here is my final take on 's controversy meme. See what you think.

Favorite Character: Fluttershy
The show ended on the highest of high notes for our animal-loving pegasus - nine years in, and she's grown into a well-rounded, mature, and brave character, all the while holding onto her defining strengths. Here's to you, Fluttershy!
Honorable mentions: Big Mac, Rarity, Apple Bloom, Flurry Heart, Terramar, Gabby, Tempest Shadow, Applejack, Countess Coloratura, etc.

Despised Character: Juniper Montage
Villainous Starlight doesn't have a patch on this brat. She did nothing - I repeat, NOTHING - to earn her "redemption"!  
Dishonorable mentions: Vignette Valencia, Sour Sweet, Cozy Glow, Svengallop, Twilight Sparkle (post-Season 8), Iron Will, Prince Rutherford, Trixie, Snap Shutter and Mane Allgood, etc.

Favorite Season: Season 4
There's not much I can say about it that hasn't already been said. It had a natural flow to it, all the Mane 6 had some time to shine, and whatever duds there were did little to spoil the effect.
Honorable mentions: Season 7, Season 2

Despised Season: Season 9
Given the overall sloppy writing coupled with Twilight's character derailment, it's probably just as well the show is ending at nine seasons - even the select few good episodes there were couldn't salvage the whole thing.  
Dishonorable mentions: Season 6, Season 5

Most Overrated Character: Iron Will
Villainous or not, he still comes off as overzealous and misguided. Moreover, judging by his two post-debut episodes, he's pretty much lost any redeeming qualities he once had.
Dishonorable mentions: the Shadowbolts (EG), the Humane 5, Derpy, Twilight Sparkle, Dr. Whooves, Snap Shutter and Mane Allgood, Princess Luna, Pinkie Pie, Queen Chrysalis, etc.

Most Underrated Character: Stygian
Now this is the way to make a villain redeemable.
Honorable mentions: Flurry Heart, Starlight Glimmer, Princess Celestia, Princess Cadance, Spike, Zephyr Breeze, Sandbar, Cattail, Flash Sentry, etc.

Favorite Villain: Tempest Shadow
The best villain the franchise has had for quite some time.
Honorable mentions: Stygian, Daybreaker, Flim and Flam (pre-Season 8)

Despised Villain: Juniper Montage
Once again, her motives were completely petty, and her "redemption" was handled horribly.
Dishonorable mentions: Cozy Glow, Vignette Valencia, "Grogar"

Favorite Song: Rainbow
It pretty much encapsulates everything about the show (and its characters) worth loving.   
Honorable mentions: "You're in My Head Like a Catchy Song", "Open Up Your Eyes", "The Magic Inside", "You'll Play Your Part", "Friendship Through the Ages", "We'll Make Our Mark", "Flim Flam Cider Song", "Apples to the Core", "Days Gone By", etc.

Despised Song: Better Way to Be Bad
 
Dishonorable mentions: "Unleash the Magic", "Awesome As I Wanna Be", "I'm on a Yacht", "We Will Stand for Everfree", etc.

Favorite Episode: A Health of Information
If this ep didn't cement Fluttershy as the Element of Kindness, I don't know what will.
Honorable mentions: "The Perfect Pear", "The Mane Attraction", "Flutter Brutter", "Shadow Play", "Hurricane Fluttershy", "Made in Manehattan", "Common Ground", "A Flurry of Emotions", "Forever Filly", etc.

Despised Episode: A Trivial Pursuit
Oh, Twilight! Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Dishonorable mentions: "Fame and Misfortune", "Secrets and Pies", "The Point of No Return", "Yakity-Sax", "Frenemies", "Non-Compete Clause", "The Mean 6", "28 Pranks Later", "Putting Your Hoof Down", etc.

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Comments: 46

Starponys87 [2019-10-20 05:29:04 +0000 UTC]

Now that we have seen the whole story arc, I believe Twilight finally overcame most of her twilighting.

My most favorite developments actually occur in Seasons 7, 8, and 9. From here, boys really start to feel — more than ever — like a full part of the friendship.

Admittedly, Season 8 has the most problems with characters and morals since Seasons 1 and 2, and possibly 5. The main way Season 8 screws up morals, as I recall, is by taking kindness too far — like when Pinkie’s friends try way too hard to make her happy. Also, Twilight didn’t really think through what could go wrong with a foreign-student program.

With the Season 9 finale, it turns out that all creatures have the power to be powerful. The magic of friendship isn’t for just a few. It’s just that few realized their true power at first. I had always been dismayed by the fate of the world relying on a chosen few.

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trainfan1770 [2019-09-28 10:19:23 +0000 UTC]

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EndlessWire94 In reply to trainfan1770 [2019-09-28 13:14:22 +0000 UTC]

Nothing wrong with the animation, but the writing in Season 9 really missed the mark.

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PurpleWonderPower [2019-09-18 14:51:38 +0000 UTC]

I agree with so much of this. Favourite and despised seasons, 100%, I totally agree that Stygian is underrated, favourite songs and villains, totally agree, and definitely agree with despised songs and episodes. It's also great to find someone else who loves A Health of Information. Everyone else I've ever talked to hates it. And it's a relief to FINALLY find someone who agrees with me about the difference between Flim and Flam's roles in Season 8 and their roles in the previous seasons. Nice meme. I agree with lots of it.

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OcherNova [2019-09-06 03:58:38 +0000 UTC]

How is Juniper Montage worse than Vignette Valencia?

And how was Twilight's character derailed in Season 9 (outside "A Trivial Pursuit" which was a one off thing that she learn her lesson from in a way that finally stuck)? 

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EndlessWire94 In reply to OcherNova [2019-09-06 09:17:01 +0000 UTC]

It's just a matter of preference, I suppose - I still think Vignette's actions were disgusting regardless.

What I meant by derailment was the way the writers overexaggerated her neuroticism throughout the series. Having her say she learned her lesson in "The Summer Sun Setback" after all that just feels like an afterthought.

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OcherNova In reply to EndlessWire94 [2019-09-06 16:43:09 +0000 UTC]

Why?

"Movie Magic" treated Juniper with due lack of respect and gave her due punishment, so she's 50% better than most villains in that department. "Mirror Magic" gave har an admittedly blink-and-you-miss-it freudian excuse of wanting to be popular to get friends and gave her moments of regret before and after the magical corruption took over.

Vignette did the same wrongs as Juniper in "Mirror" without any of those mitigating factors, the only difference I can see is that she was more forgettable and had less relative screen time.

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EndlessWire94 In reply to OcherNova [2019-09-06 17:07:04 +0000 UTC]

Wanting to be popular doesn't excuse what she did to try and gain it - plus, her redemption felt too rushed for my liking.

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OcherNova In reply to EndlessWire94 [2019-09-06 17:20:25 +0000 UTC]

It's still more excuse than Vignette had. And how was Vignette's less rushed?

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EndlessWire94 In reply to OcherNova [2019-09-06 18:54:27 +0000 UTC]

I never said it was less rushed.

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OcherNova In reply to EndlessWire94 [2019-09-06 19:39:50 +0000 UTC]

Ok, so how was it less objectionable?

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EndlessWire94 In reply to OcherNova [2019-09-06 21:03:16 +0000 UTC]

I guess it's just that she wasn't made out to be someone you should sympathize with, the way Juniper was. It's similar to the reason some people didn't like Wallflower Blush - any sympathy you once had for her flies out the window once she descends to petty villainy.

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OcherNova In reply to EndlessWire94 [2019-09-06 23:58:34 +0000 UTC]

If they didn't want us to sympathizes with Vignette as opposed to Juniper why did they forgive Vignette despite her having done as bad as Juniper with fewer (attempted) mitigating factors?

And would she really be more sympathetic if she used more planned out, larger scale cruelty? (Petty cruelty is why they'll intended to come of as unsympathetic enough to be villains until they repent. It's only a criticism if it causes us not to like them for different reasons than the narrative intends.)

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EndlessWire94 In reply to OcherNova [2019-09-07 12:47:54 +0000 UTC]

I never said Vignette shouldn't have been forgiven. In fact, I think she's almost as bad as Juniper - it's just that the failed effort to paint Juniper as more sympathetic leaves a more bitter taste in my mouth.

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OcherNova In reply to EndlessWire94 [2019-09-07 23:06:27 +0000 UTC]

So the problem is they put more effort into trying to portray Juniper as sympathetic?

How did they put less effort into portraying Vignette as sympathetic? Maybe Juniper just made you jaded to undeserved forgiveness as opposed to being objectively worse?

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EndlessWire94 In reply to OcherNova [2019-09-08 02:23:12 +0000 UTC]

No, the problem is there was too much happening all at once with Juniper - the writers paint her out as regretful for her actions, but it all comes on too soon after she's terrorized the mall-goers to feel real.

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OcherNova In reply to EndlessWire94 [2019-09-08 04:15:09 +0000 UTC]

So how was there attempts to paint Vignette as regretful (they wouldn't have redeemed her if she wasn't) less bad?

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EndlessWire94 In reply to OcherNova [2019-09-08 15:05:08 +0000 UTC]

I just think it helps that they didn't beat around the bush and try to make it seem as if Vignette was someone you should sympathize with, as opposed to Juniper.

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OcherNova In reply to EndlessWire94 [2019-09-08 23:23:48 +0000 UTC]

So with Vignette it seem like they weren't trying as hard to force us to liker her?

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EndlessWire94 In reply to OcherNova [2019-09-08 23:39:04 +0000 UTC]

Pretty much.

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YangIsCool [2019-09-05 07:20:33 +0000 UTC]

A Trivial Pursuit is over-the-top and hilarious.


And Better Way to Be Bad, really?
That's one of the most fun songs I've ever heard.

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EndlessWire94 In reply to YangIsCool [2019-09-05 13:22:18 +0000 UTC]

It was over the top, but it completely wrecked Twilight as a character - she should know better than to obsess over something like a trivia game. And as for the song, it just came off as petty and childish to me.

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YangIsCool In reply to EndlessWire94 [2019-09-05 14:51:17 +0000 UTC]

What someone SHOULD do and what someone actually does don't always coincide.

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EndlessWire94 In reply to YangIsCool [2019-09-05 20:01:38 +0000 UTC]

Still, as the next ruler of Equestria, you'd think she'd be able to set a better example - if she behaved that erratically over a trivia game (and for the majority of the season), who's to say she'd be fit to run a country by that same logic?

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YangIsCool In reply to EndlessWire94 [2019-09-05 21:46:49 +0000 UTC]

And then Summer Sun Setback comes along right after and answers that very question.

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EndlessWire94 In reply to YangIsCool [2019-09-05 21:50:24 +0000 UTC]

Yes, but it felt so forced saying that Twilight had changed right then and there, after spending the rest of the season behaving like a caricature of herself.

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YangIsCool In reply to EndlessWire94 [2019-09-05 21:59:45 +0000 UTC]

Considering what a big change becoming the ruler of Equestria was going to be, I kind of think her freakouts earlier in the season were warranted.

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EndlessWire94 In reply to YangIsCool [2019-09-05 22:45:13 +0000 UTC]

To an extent, maybe, but not to the extent it was taken not just in "A Trivial Pursuit", but in "The Point of No Return" and "Between Dark and Dawn" as well.

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YangIsCool In reply to EndlessWire94 [2019-09-05 23:11:06 +0000 UTC]

Twilight's always freaked out about books, so her behavior in Point of No Return was justified

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EndlessWire94 In reply to YangIsCool [2019-09-05 23:16:31 +0000 UTC]

Either way, the ending just felt anticlimactic.

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YangIsCool In reply to EndlessWire94 [2019-09-05 23:24:51 +0000 UTC]

I don't really see how

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EndlessWire94 In reply to YangIsCool [2019-09-05 23:33:50 +0000 UTC]

Just all that stress for nothing, you know? At least Twilight's freakouts in the earlier seasons had a bit more creativity - plus, since she was less mature back then, the freakouts were more forgivable and entertaining to watch. I guess I just dislike her portrayal in the season for the same reason fans disliked Fluttershy and Rainbow Dash's portrayals in "Scare Master" and "28 Pranks Later" respectively - at this point in the show, particularly when she's learned about staying calmer in the past, this exaggerated neuroticism just feels clichéed and out of place.

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SlickVideoProduction [2019-09-05 04:39:03 +0000 UTC]

A Trivial Pursuit, more like, A Trivial Disaster.

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EndlessWire94 In reply to SlickVideoProduction [2019-09-05 13:20:00 +0000 UTC]

Tell me about it.

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SlickVideoProduction In reply to EndlessWire94 [2019-09-06 04:47:37 +0000 UTC]

Yep...

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Ttte-villaisn-rule [2019-09-05 04:35:34 +0000 UTC]

My only problem with The Point Of No Return is when it aired.

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EndlessWire94 In reply to Ttte-villaisn-rule [2019-09-05 13:19:52 +0000 UTC]

What do you mean by that?

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Ttte-villaisn-rule In reply to EndlessWire94 [2019-09-05 18:33:11 +0000 UTC]

It would've been better airing way back in season 3

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EndlessWire94 In reply to Ttte-villaisn-rule [2019-09-05 19:56:50 +0000 UTC]

Hmm, maybe.

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TheRedJ50 [2019-09-05 00:06:05 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I can definitely agree with you there on A Trivial Pursuit.

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EndlessWire94 In reply to TheRedJ50 [2019-09-05 00:06:53 +0000 UTC]

What was Brittany Jo Flores thinking?

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TheRedJ50 In reply to EndlessWire94 [2019-09-05 00:07:47 +0000 UTC]

Who?

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EndlessWire94 In reply to TheRedJ50 [2019-09-05 00:08:02 +0000 UTC]

The person who wrote that episode.

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TheRedJ50 In reply to EndlessWire94 [2019-09-05 00:09:07 +0000 UTC]

Oh.

I have no idea.

Also everything in said episode pissed me off.

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EndlessWire94 In reply to TheRedJ50 [2019-09-05 00:13:59 +0000 UTC]

Don't blame ya.

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TheRedJ50 In reply to EndlessWire94 [2019-09-05 00:15:06 +0000 UTC]

Yeah.

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