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Franz-Josef73 β Gojira vs. T. rex skulls
Published: 2013-08-14 15:19:18 +0000 UTC; Views: 10453; Favourites: 238; Downloads: 0
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While my wife and I were watching the original 1954 Gojira this past weekend, I remembered how freaked out I was as a liitle bugger when Gojira is liquified and skeletonized by the Oxygen Destroyer. Seeing the mighty beast reduced to a skeletal frame before finally dissolving completely was a sad, yet exciting thing. I also watched the "direct sequel" Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla and was surprised to see that according to the new canon, Gojira's skeleton did not in fact dissolve, but lay at the bottom of Tokyo Bay until retrieved by a sceintific team. In keeping with my new resolution to get back to be more artistic, here's my effort at a direct comparison between the skulls of the mighty Gojira and the infamous Tyrannosaurus rex. Gojira has an intersting mix of crocodylian and canine characteristics indicating that if indeed, he is a theropod dinosaur, he represents a lineage that strongly parallels crocodylians.Related content
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Not only king of the Monsters, He is, King of the Dinosaurs.
Wonder what his evolution looks like, I'd assume his non mutated Godzillasaurus Form is a specie of Tyrannosaur that split off about the time of Dilong.
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We've seen his non-mutated form, actually. It... doesn't look like any tyrannosaur I've ever seen. I think that if he even is a dinosaur, he stems from a species that's so primitive, it doesn't count as a carnosaur, a tetanuran, or even a theropod. He's a dinosaur, yes, but so basal that he can just barely be called one.
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I believe Godzilla, well 1954 anyway was actually related to synaspid, he has a very mammal like appearance, his ears and facial features, while heisei Godzilla is the only dinosaur the rest seem to be a creature from the Permian age
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Eh, maybe. They could just be analogous structures to ears, though.
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He literally has mammal like ears and very mammal like eyes. Also his thought process, his demeanor is all very human, whats wrong with him being a synaspid, it makes sense.Β
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A) I've seen plenty of reptiles with rounded pupils.
B) You do realize that reptiles aren't stupid, right?
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I know that and yes but his eyes are different, they look more of a human than a reptile, reptiles have very large eyes that cover most of the cornea, Godzillas are like that of a humans, a smaller iris and a has a very distinctive wolf like shape and btw Godzilla is still a reptile just a synaspid Β
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Dude, according to the films, he's a dinosaur. Just leave it at that.
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That is Godzilla 1984 - 1995 so nope only in that canon
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But his design was said to be based on dinosaurian creatures, and the theory based on the original movie and the showa series was that Godzilla was a cross inbetween aquatic and terrestrial Mesozoic reptiles, AKA diapsids.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godzillaβ¦
Thus features that you claim, like his eyes and ears for instance, were likely coincidental and not deliberate. Plus, while synapids did exist with paddle like arms, Godzilla's lifestyle is closer to a semiterrestial crocodyliamorph that lives that lives I the ocean which is a niche lacking in synapsids butΒ plausible in the archosaurΒ taxa.
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There is a theory Godzilla evolved from Skorpiovenator or Ceratosaurus, they have flat skulls and four fingered hands
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Why Skorpiovenator? The arms don't match up at all.
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Honestly the skull Franz drew looks more like some sort of synapsid.
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Before Godzillasaurus.
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In my mythos, he's sort of a synapsid, or "mammal like reptile". I think so just because of the skull's shape, and the appearance of the jaw's hinges.
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In my mythos he's an amphibious reptile dinosaur like saurian although he appears vaguely similar to a synapsid although my Godzilla looks more like a combination of the 54 godzilla, Neo, a touch of the Heisei and the Godzilla encounter sculptures so not quite as mammalian as previous designs
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Judging by this skull alone, I'd say he was a primitive synapsid, judging by the lack of an antiorbital and mandibular fenestra. That would certainly rule out his being an arcosaur, never mind a dinosaur.
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He's always appeared somewhat mammalian to me, even externally. Β They gave him a bit of a muzzle.
Good work! Β That's some impressive technical detail.
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If my calculations are correct, Gojira's skull is bigger than the entire body of a T.Rex!
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Yes that's true. The largest T. rex is Sue, and she is 12.3 m long.
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I thing all kaijus belong to their own class/phylum. They can't be classified with another lifeforms, since many of them have a combined trade of them, mostly mammalian
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Yes I always thought godzilla was more than a dinosaur as he's far too big and he's simply not a dinosaur. He's his own species. 83
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His species are said to even older than dinosaur. Have been existed since Permian era,maybe older. This explain why his natural enemies are mostly non-reptillian, at least in the 2014 movie universe
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Well that makes sense... They never stated he was mutated either... Maybe he was charred by the bomb to the face...
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I thing they actually came even before Cambrian era, when we thought the land is still a barren wasteland. (Actually I got this idea from a certain artist, I'll give you the link later. I don't have any intention to steal here)
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Ok 
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How deep do you thing the place where Godzilla live all this time? I personally thing that he actually lives in an earthly zone that located somewhere in the bottom of the seas, or Suboceanic Hemisphere
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Idk how deep I think about it.... But yeah somewhere in the pacificΒ
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P.s. sorry for the mistypings
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Very nice, and I am ok with Godzilla being either a crocodylian or a very weird dinosaur that evolved (or mutated) mammalian features.
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Thank you kindly!
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It looks like a synapsid, the temporal region looks almost mammalian and it lacks a foramen antorbitale. Going by the integument likely a basal one tough.
Or perhaps it's an anapsid that developed a posterior expansion of the orbit (to increase the bite force) analogous but not homologous to the temporal fenestra in mammals.
The nostrils are also odd, they are totally mammalian. This definitely cannot be a theropod or other archosauromorph.
btw T. rex skull is not 1,8m in lenght, the biggest T. rex crania are 1,4 or at best 1,5m long.
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It seems more likely to me that Godzilla is an archosaur than a synapsid, or that's what I imagine him to be, at least. Crocodiles lack antorbital fenestrae and have nostrils very close to each other (in fact, their skulls only have one hole for both nostrils), yet are still diapsid archosaurs, so I wouldn't discount a similar classification for Godzilla yet.
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Good catch on the skull length.
I got that from Greg Paul's book I think and it's too large by a bit.
Since crocodlyiformes mimic sunapsids in a startling variety of ways, I'm still happy with Gojira as an archosaur...anything but a giant iguana!
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Originally Gojira was supposed to be a mammalian creature, but was changed into a dinosaur. So despite all the mammalian features he is technically a part of Dinosauria; just a hideously innacurate one.Β
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Reminds me of Dave Peters' outlandish theories of Mammalia within Archosauromorpha...
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I'd love to see Rodan done in Peters style. He'd make some pretty neat looking kaiju.Β
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By Crom, you're right!
He missed his calling in life.
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Indeed, that gus should have given up on palaeoart and pseudo science in favour of designing movie fantasy creatures (and if he wants to, lines of evolutions, he is indeed very creative on that part!).
I just recently saw while reading some stuff on vertebrate anatomy that this Gojira skull resembles an oppossum's in some features!
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Godzilla seems to be more synapsid-like as opposed to a theropod to me. But you had brought up a point I never thought of.
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