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Freedim — A Confederate Victory

Published: 2015-09-15 02:06:15 +0000 UTC; Views: 4988; Favourites: 22; Downloads: 12
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Description This is the start of a new alternate history timeline I'll be posting. In this timeline, General Robert E. Lee makes a crucial decision at the Battle of Gettysburg. The Confederacy earns support from both Great Britain and France leading to a divided North America and a South America, unprotected by the Monroe Doctrine, that faces the same colonial fate as Asia and Africa.
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Comments: 9

wilji1070 [2015-10-06 03:51:48 +0000 UTC]

The only problem I see here is that Gettysburg wouldn't have been the deciding factor for the British and the French to get involved. Gettysburg took place after Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation (following the strategic victory at Antietam) which is what made the choice for the two powers to stay out of the conflict altogether. I'd argue that you need Antietam to either end in a Confederate victory or not happen at all in order to have the Brits and French help the South.

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Freedim In reply to wilji1070 [2015-10-06 16:14:25 +0000 UTC]

It's actually a bribe. Britain and France aid the confederacy, and in return they will have to give up slavery. They will do that in the next part of the timeline which I will post soon. Plus keep in mind, the emancipation proclamation was just a wartime measure. It really freed no slaves at all. It was only the thirteenth amendment that ended slavery

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wilji1070 In reply to Freedim [2015-10-06 23:05:26 +0000 UTC]

You're talking to a history guy, so yeah But no, I don't see the Brits and French backing the CSA since Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation had turned the issue into a moral issue. Plus, Anglo-American relations were already stretched to the breaking point because of the Trent Affair. Britain only really contemplated the idea of involving themselves in the slave issue out of fear that the Proclamation would incite a race war within the CSA.

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Freedim In reply to wilji1070 [2015-10-07 02:36:12 +0000 UTC]

The only reason they are aiding the CSA is so they can gain influence over it. Plus, if they were to be involved in the war at all, they would want to side with the side more likely to win.

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wilji1070 In reply to Freedim [2015-10-07 03:23:34 +0000 UTC]

Oooh German backed USA by chance?

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Freedim In reply to wilji1070 [2015-10-07 03:33:40 +0000 UTC]

WW1 no WW2 yes. You'll see why later

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wilji1070 In reply to Freedim [2015-10-07 03:42:04 +0000 UTC]

ooooh Nazis?

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pytko3 [2015-09-17 01:20:28 +0000 UTC]

Why would france and Britain support the Confederacy when, Grants victory at Vicksburg cut the Confederacy in two and gave the Union control of the Mississippi? 

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Freedim In reply to pytko3 [2015-09-17 01:44:17 +0000 UTC]

Vicksburg hadn't fallen yet when they entered the war. Grant was forced to abandon his siege of the city in order to reinforce the east, which was obviously in vain.

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