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G-manluver — No more arguments about this
Published: 2008-03-30 23:57:12 +0000 UTC; Views: 14221; Favourites: 848; Downloads: 77
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please read this if you're going to even attempt to argue meI'm fucking sick and tired of arguing this offline and on.
I don't give a shit what the "Bible" says, the Bible doesn't determine the meaning of the word animal.
GET THE HELL OVER IT!
Being an animal is based of biological properties, NOT BEHAVIOR, SPIRITUALITY OR INTELLIGENCE! In other words stop using the lame arguements: Humans have souls, cause wars, are smarter, have morals and any other bullshit related to our behavior.
THAT HAS NOTHING AND I REPEAT NOTHING TO DO WITH HUMANS BEING ANIMALS, DIMWIT!!!
Why can't you just look up what animal means instead of arguing using an outdated book?
Really would you argue that elephants aren't indangered because an outdated text says their population is fine? FUCK NO! So why argue the meaning of a word by using old text?
Meanings of words change over time, the definition of animal is one of those words and no amount of arguing with G-manluver will make your argument right.
You're wrong, humans are animals, you're wrong, too bad, so sad, use a dictionary, you're wrong!
The end!
PS: you can argue it here but again no amount of arguing will me with change the proper definition of animal
. Just sit back, relax and live with the thought that you aren't a plant or fugi at the least!EDIT: apparently my stamp is the most popular one of the day D:. wow this did much better than presumed.
EDIT 2: I said get over it! So GET OVER IT. your faith is incapable of changing known information so quit with the "God made us special" crap because if you can't prove it (meaning first you'd have to prove God exist, than get him to prove he created humans than get him to prove he made them into a unique seperate lifeform from all other species) than you have no argument. simple right?
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there really isn't, and most behavior seen in humans is seen in other organism, sometimes animals were not even closely related to (like ants and various birds).
We just see our behavior as normal and have trouble associating it with other lifeforms. At least nowadays because of the "human ego".
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Humans act like animals... human animals.
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Yes! Now if only more people agreed.
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As a proud Darwinist, I must fav this.
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darwinists isn't really a good term to use =/, it makes the theory of evolution and modern biology sound like a religious cult. but thanks for the comment and fav :3
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You're welcome. What would be a good term to use then?
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not sure, I would say someone that comprehends evolution, darwinists would make it sound like a religion based on darwin's theory rather than someone that just accepts the theory because of the astonding evidence and logic supporting it.
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Hmm
I think I'll just go with "I support evolution" rather than "Darwinist" then. That way it's not misleading.
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Look, this comment isn't filled with God, and it isn't trying to change your opinion. But uh, get the "facts" straight:
Everything in science in a theory. It can, at any time, be proven wrong. The whole idea of science is to be subjective and NOT get your feelings about religion intermingled into it.
Being a biology major, I think this whole debate is dumb.
A) Internets. lol.
B) Your opinion is not fact. If a human should ever prove NOT to be an animal, it would be called into question, re-tested, etc. It's only theories. Even gravity is a theory. If gravity should ever work different somewhere else, the theory of gravity would be called into question. It's called the Scientific Method. And since you're so fond of using "wikipedia" for all your science needs, here is an article for it: [link]
I honestly think this is all just horribly dumb. All you're doing is trying to make people who believe in SOMETHING other than what you do look bad, and not give them the time of day. If you're going to use science, use it right, and use it well. Quoting wikipedia is laaame ass, by the way. Take it from a Biology major, it doesn't hold up.
What they believe Does Not Equal Fact.
What you believe Does NOT Equal Fact.
Get over it, dude.
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But, being a human, we can pick whether or not we fit into a category we created. Haha. We were the ones who found out about putting things into categories. We can change the rules.
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Yeah, that's true, but scientists have classified us as animals currently. They set a certain criteria and definition as to what an animal is, and humans fit it. The end.
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That doesn't mean we're not animals. Even if you change the meaning of the word, we'd still be similar to the other animals.
And by that context, if you'd like you can also say (for example) chameleons aren't animals, since all the other animals can't change their color (like you say we're not animals because there are no more animals that think like us)
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Oh I was meaning it more jokingly than anything else. I wasn't actually using "We can change the definition" as an ACTUAL argument, lol.
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But we could, anytime of the day. Just put some people signing a petition to the... English Language Association or something.
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i agree that humans are animals
even though i am Christian, i don't believe God really made us all that "special"
*willprobablygetbrick'dforthat*
hell. we're as much food for animals as animals are food for us xD
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quite true, but yeah God apparently designed humans in his image that doesn't mean he meant that we weren't animals. Kinda like I can make a sculpture of a cat but it doesn't mean it no longer made of clay. Humans are just really smart animals
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I agree 100%!! because honestly last year i got into a big argument about this during lunch -__- ugggh. People are stupid and need to realize the facts!
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agreed, people seem to not even understand what a "fact" is in the first place x.x its ridiculous
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"If God is indeed out there and he created you in his image, then you're pretty much making him look like an idiot. "
(Very thought-provoking. I'm gonna share this one with my church youth-group.)
It's a pitty that's the way it seems nowadays.
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xD yeah not my quote but I thought it was cute. but yeah, nowadays people are kinda doing that.. sad really. some of the behavior I see in religious people you'd expect to hear coming from a person hundreds of years ago, not someone that's living in a free country in the 21st century.
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could you elaborate a bit more?
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No offense, but going "I right, your wrong!" is a real turn-off when your trying to make a point.
I personally don't agree with the opinion the humans are animals (I believe that we are above "animals")
But if you believe we are categorized as animals because "Being an animal is based of biological properties"_then yes- we breath, eat, sleep, have structure (body-wise), we physically develop, we reproduce. If stuff like that (and the list goes on and on of course) is what makes something "an animal" in your point of view- then you are most certainly right!
I believe that God made man higher than the animals and placed them under our dominion. Me and a lot of other people believe in God and the Bible as a higher authority.
You (I assume) believe in what other men have to say- and think that animals and humans are "the same".
The belief that animals and humans are the one and the same frightens me because:
1- Evolution (not saying you do or do not believe in this) is based on theory after theory- hardly any facts at all. Scientists and teachers by the hundreds are beginning to abandon the belief (Evolution is only called "science" because the media named it so back after its conception). [I personally believe that Evolution will be declared null before long]. "In the beginning, something [from who-knows-where] exploded and made the universe..."- I'll believe in Evolution the day a Subaru factory explodes and makes a fully-functional Impreza, haha.
2- If we are all animals, why do we have such differing convictions (humans in general)? If we are animals, then school shootings are A-OK, war is A-OK, gunning down people in the mall is A-OK. Death and killing is without consequence in the animal kingdom- it's all part of the cycle. And being a believer of the Bible, I believe that murder is evil and not acceptable! (EVERY life is valuable)
People can mock me for being a Christian- but what is so bad about the Bible? It has good rules (if everyone followed the 10 Commandments the world would be a better off place), a message of hope, history (which most of it has been proven TRUE by scientists both Christian and non-Christian), and hey, plenty of battles and parables.
That's a small slice of why I personally believe that humans (although we share most animal characteristics) are not "animals".
And your right, words change over time. (Totally, just ask urban dictionary, haha
I doubt I've changed your opinion on the subject at all- and I'm not trying to. (And I don't think your dumb, I totally see where you're coming from. I've been raised believing one thing, and you've been raised believing another. But you make yourself look arrogant with "no amount of arguing with G-manluver will make your argument right.") It would be a dangerous world if no one ever questioned anything or tested anything.
Not to cause strife, just voicing my opinion. And now that I've voiced mine, you are free to voice back. (although we all know what it is)
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I disagree with quite a bit of this, but the only part I'm going to comment on is this :
"In the beginning, something [from who-knows-where] exploded and made the universe..."
That is the Big Bang Theory, NOT the Theory of Evolution.
The theory of evolution is that we EVOLVED, which is to say, descended and changed to fit our environment over time. The two theories have absolutely nothing to do with each other, except that neither the Big Bang theory nor the theory of evolution agree with the Christian creation belief.
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I block you from my page. To explain I don't have the nerves anymore to explain the same thing I have 100000x previous about the theory of evolution and why religion doesn't overwrite facts.
simply put: the theory of evolution is an compilation OF FACTS about how species change overtime as the result of various influences.
you think=/=fact
your religion=/=dictionary
your opionion=NOTHING.
facts are facts which is what I live by, you can have opinion on things without an answer. But things like "what is evolution" or "what is an animal" have an answer and thus cannot be your opinion, your religion's opinion or your nation's opinion. They are what they are and I'm not going to fight about it and your not going to be allowed to comment back and show more ignorance.
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=/ I'm not reading this, its just a lot of religious blabber. you're not going to change my opinion by using bible stuff when I'm not even Christian, not to mention you proved you know nothing about evolution by saying it isn't based on "hardly any facts at all" when evolution is probably one of the best founded scientific theories of all, it has mountains of evidence even of the most tramatic change evolution can bring (speciation).
So really you aren't going to convince me with utter ignorance.
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Agreed.
Examples of humans acting VERY animal like is all around us. Our instincts are kept in check mostly on our day to day life, but we are very much animals, and anyone who claims we aren't is just brainwashed.
We're just very intelligent chimps. Nothing more.
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quite so, were very intelligent great apes. Were not some unique organism that was made for some "other worldly" reason, that's just a lot of religious mumbo jumbo as far as I'm concerned.
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Let me just say that I am a Christian but I would have to agree with you that by definition we are animals, I think that God made us in his image and created other animals for the complex ecosystem we have today so we could survive and thrive. I think people don't like it because if we are animals then we are classified as a type of ape. I believe that we are a super intelligent species of animal that were put on this earth to be the dominant species of the planet.
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well that's your beliefs and I respect them though I believe something vastly different (not going to get into that) though I'm happy you've concluded the obvious xD
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Haha, you frequently have to argue people over this? I've heard people say it before, not even specifically Christians, but just people with too much pride and arrogance... ahh, a uniquely human quality. God forbid we be classified as a lowly animal. 
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lol, I know. I think people don't get that being classified an animal just has to do with our physical traits and nothing to do with our ability to do critical thinking and such.
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Well, as has proven countless times on this page alone, some people could be classified as animals by the latter. ;D
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nice one 
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Yeah, I know, he did the same to me. He's incapable of any reasoning or accepting that he did indeed act like a little assfuck to a bunch of people for no reason.
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*smacks forehead* Yes, of course, my bad.
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lol. well I'm not familiar with that user but I have no doubt you are right.
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He made quite a few comments on this page. ;D You'll remember, roffle. >.>
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About bloody time! Glad I have some support on this! <3
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well you should, I really do hate how religious people try to run everything including changing the definition of words to fit their faith =/ seriously they need to get over themselves.
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No kidding! I especially hate how people act that super religious folk are, by some supposed definition, "perfect" and how you should go to them for whatever you need and disregard anyone else. Heck, some priest up in Canada microwaved his baby and let us not even get started with things from the past like the stupid witch burnings!
I just wish more of them could be, you know, normal and not so conceited and self-righteous. I have friends who are religious, and they do not start bible-thumping at everything, so it is possible. People need to be more about individuals rather than groups; I am not a christian, but I do not go around killing people or doing other bad things. :/ (In fact, I am far more innocent than the people in my class who did go to church.)
Anyways, how many silly people have tried to start arguments with you over this stamp? I bet it was hilarious to read their "reasonings". XD
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OoO WHAT? now THATS whay i call a crazy canadian o.o
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