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goku could not kill superman for fact no matter if he trained at 100 times gravity or what ever he does not poses the ability to kill him no magic no kryptonite. Please do the math 100 times gravity goku weight is 145 pounds i know its hard to belive but its true u'd know if you read shonen jump they give you a profile at time which makes him only be able to hold his wight of approx....14,500 pounds he weighed. plus what ever he could carry we dubble that so his physical strength is pro somwhere btw, 29,000 to 40,000 pounds of lift. Im a dbz fan my self and a dc fan. Im going on facts, supermans lift however was mentioned in marvel vs dc comic 1st ed hight weight ect, ect,
now for his strength it was 300,000,000 tons plus+ that means he can still lift more. =661,386,750,000lbs+plus
now you got more info also 1 ton is equal to 2,204 lbs so goku is an estimate of lift power 18-20 tons thx for reading
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If goku from the frieza saga fought full power superman, thats a fight, i would like to see goku make a fool out of darkseid.
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cool but truly goku would kill him without going super saiyan
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looks intense. YOu should've made it a bit larger for us to enjoy. Hehehe
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I am now arguing with a guy on this very same deviation and comment, he say's Superman would win v.s. Goku and he won't listen, go check out the argument/comments and please help me convince him.
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Firzen305
Don't bother arguing him because he won't believe the facts that
Goku and Superman have:
Superhuman Strength
Invulnerability
Longevity
Flight
Superhuman Speed
Highly sensory
Superman is more like brawler than martial arts but Goku is master and expert of martial arts. I had been reading superman's comic and his foes already kick his stinky underwear butt if they knew what they are doing.
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Yeah... Check out this ---> [link] Read the entire thing.
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He seemly blind the truth. I will forget about him if I were you. Superman wiki is totally joke because it says that he can destroy solar system by sneeze then how come he didn't do it in comic? It also says that he already learned martial arts advance from Batman then how come he didn't use his move in comic? He does have superhuman speed then why can't he use speed in the battle? I can tell that he have limit abilities because he don't have ability to conjunct other ability during in the battle. Obviously, your enemy guy buys Superman wiki story for being sucker. I believe that Goku will own Superman in various ways. If anyone disagree with me then don't bother to trying to convince me about that stuff.
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is because if superman would get sirios he would hurt the plp of the city,sometimes that was the case, but sometimes maybe he actually didnt want to unleash his full power. y dont u dicuss it with the creators of superman.
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So what? Superman does unleashed his full power against super-villains but dangerous and regular villains already kicked his underwear super butt many times without aiding green meteorite. Goku always kicked most dangerous villains who have potential to bring destruction of the universe's butt!! Like I said, don't bother and try to change my mind about that stuff.
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- Yeah, I guess n_n
I love Goku so to me he is superior. Boss. And someone needs to create a better sequel to DBZ then GT that show that "bossness" so everybody will realize that.
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Nope, he wouldn't even know the fight started before he's pounded into a puddle of blood.
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Superman? Well, his fists'd be doing the pounding, I feel bad for Goku. I mean, I'm a bigger fan of Goku than Supes, but sheesh.
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Whoa, Goku can destroy planets with his kai blast, probably even in his normal base form. Imagine him in his SSJ4 form vs Superman, think about it dude.
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ive been saying that to people. and it was proven in the manga that goku could destroy planets in his base form.each form is fifty times stronger then the last. no one want to hear that though. i dont think it would be a landslide but superman is not going to beat him with ease if at all.
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Wow, so all of that firepower trumps the ability to fly faster than light?
No.
It doesn't matter how much power Goku has, he won't get the chance to use it, all the firepower in the universe wouldn't be able to help him if doesn't have the chance to use it.
And DON'T bring GT into this!
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we wont but if supes was so fast...he would never get hit. so why does people who have no super speed kick the shit outta him ??? let me guess, he's holding back right ??? i get holding back to not hurt anyone but holding back and getting hit ??? dude you know that doesn't make sense. we don't need gt for this. no disrespect man but whats the excuse for this ???
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Superman does not move at the speed of light, The Flash can't hardly move that and when flash does he starts to fade out of existents check the link ---> ( [link] ) And thats not even the speed of light cause supposedly if light could travel in a circle around earth it would go around over 7 times in one second and it's only about once around the world per second. You just got powned dude ^_^. Goku moves pretty fast his-self and plus he has instant transmission. And why not GT, Goku at his full power and Superman at his full power.
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1. Justice League Unlimited is an animated show, and the animated versions usually place extremely large limits on them. How about you pick up a comic instead of sitting in front of a TV?
2. Yeah, and in Dragon Ball Z, Goku trains at hundreds times gravity, never mind that gravity's pull on, well, EVERYTHING would be magnified, especially on parts that weren't designed to carry that weight. Sure, you can lift a 50 pound weight, but imagine that your teeth weighed 50 pounds, for instance. They'd be torn out of your mouth.
3. You're completely missing the point. In a fight where Plot Induced Stupidity is taken off, Goku won't have the chance to think 'Use Instant Transmission' before he's blitzed into paste.
4. Because GT isn't even considered canon. GT Goku is weaker than Goku in Dragon Ball for crying out loud. Super Saiyan 4 has lost more than Kid Goku.
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Why can't we just say that both characters are physically impossible, and therefore it's pointless to argue which would win, since they both break proven scientific laws. You can pawn off their super resistant bodies to the fact that they're aliens. Sure, I can imagine if my teeth weighed 50 pounds they'd fall out, but I'm not a Saiyan. If I hit a rock with all my force I'd break my hand. Again, not a Saiyan.
The whole travelling FTL (faster than light) is preposterous at best. As long as we're being "realistic" as you seem to be doing, if Superman could travel at the speed of light he would need infinite energy to reach it because he has nonzero mass, unless he's made of tachyons. If he can travel FTL he would, according to Enstein's theory of general relatively, be time traveling and would require more than infinite energy. Lol where does Superman get that energy? Zero Point energy in Subspace maybe, which is extremely unstable and would require him to possess the ability to access subspace without destroying our universe. I don't want to be closed-minded to the possibility that a humanoid organism could do that without technology, but it is highly unlikely that his body could handle the stress. He's carbon based like humans, he'll have the same weaknesses that we do at the end of the day.
May I also remind you. Goku + Kryptonite = win.
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Except that the other human characters of Dragon Ball Z were on King Kai's planet, which magnified gravity times ten. I was pointing out that both pieces of fiction are unrealistic, but they still have accomplished those feats.
And yeah, give Goku kryptonite and he'd win. You're basically arguing that if you gave Goku a handicap advantage, that he'd win, but in a fight where both were equal and at their best, Superman would stomp him into the ground.
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You believe what you wanna believe, and we'll do the same.
PS: GT is canon, it's an official DB series.
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Actually, no, GT isn't canon. Akira Toriyama stated that Dragon Ball Online is the canonical sequel to Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z.
Before you ask what it is, take a look at these links.
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That may be, but GT is years later from Z, which means there's plenty of time in between for other canon to take place. I consider GT canon, but I don't see how it has any bearing on who would win the fight.
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"It is important to note that Dragon Ball Online ignores the events of Dragon Ball GT (i.e., Gohan writing Ground Breaking Science and the Z Fighters re-establishing/creating their respective schools) and even appears to contradict some aspects of the anime. One example being the Yardrat race, who did not appear in the manga, but look completely different in Dragon Ball Online than they did in their brief anime appearance. This may be explained by redesign, or their lack of appearance in the manga, as the game seems to depict characters as they originally were; (i.e. Trunks' purple hair, Korin's blue fur). Considering Akira Toriyama's participation in this project, it is possible that Dragon Ball Online will give a more canon conclusion to the events of the manga than Dragon Ball GT did." --From the Dragon Ball Wiki.
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I don't care, man. You're so off topic you're in another galaxy. I vote Goku would win and that is my opinion, and I don't care what arguments you can come up against that because I think I've run through them all with other people.
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You're worse than a religious nut. :/
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Is that the best you can offer in ways of deflecting your own inadequacies, Mr.way-off-topic? Just let it go, I'm not trying to be a nut about anything, I just don't see the merit in wasting time debating this again with someone who can't even keep on track with the original conversation.
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You were the one that veered off-topic, not me.
You:
You believe what you wanna believe, and we'll do the same.
PS: GT is canon, it's an official DB series.
Me:
Actually, no, GT isn't canon. Akira Toriyama stated that Dragon Ball Online is the canonical sequel to Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z.
So you were the one that veered off-topic.
You want me to go 'on topic'? Okay. I'd place the DBZ characters at near light-speed travel. However, Superman has travelled not only faster than light, but fast enough to enter another universe before he ended up sneezing away the entire solar system. He instead sneezes away a solar system in another universe.
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So am I on-topic enough for you?
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Ahem
You: "4. Because GT isn't even considered canon. GT Goku is weaker than Goku in Dragon Ball for crying out loud. Super Saiyan 4 has lost more than Kid Goku."
Enough said?
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In Dragon Ball GT, the power levels were cranked down to the point where if I recall correctly, Gogeta was amazed Omega Shenron could destroy a city. He also had trouble holding up a building when Super Saiyan 2 Goku pushed a mountain apart.
DBGT Goku in base form had less displays of power than Kid Goku.
And here I thought the topic was Superman vs. Goku. Looks like I'm not the one veering off-topic.
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Wow you're being really thick. You're the one who mentioned DBGT not being canon. I even quoted it for you but I guess that wasn't clear enough. I also recall SSJ4 Gogeta moving faster than any other transformation in the history of DB. I think Goku would win, you think Superman would win, the end. How hard was that.
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... Umm, I did some research and ~This-Inuyasha-plz is right, Goku would lose. The power levels were cranked down, SSJ4 wasn't as strong as it should of been. And GT isn't canon, I've seen other DB fan-arts that would make better sequels then GT ---> [link] There are like 3 others besides' that one. Yeah... n_n I admit defeat.
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I simply mentioned it on the side of my discussion, YOU were the one that brought it up.
Then tell me the fastest Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta has travelled. Just tell me how quick he was other than 'he was faster than *insert transformation and/or character here*' because most of DBGT was based on Narrative Hyperbole rather than demonstrated feats.
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And I countered your "side-mention." I don't know the fastest Gogeta's ever traveled because DB is not that technical. I think Goku would win, end of story. I enjoy the shows for what they are, I don't make a huge deal out of it. A big reason I say Goku would win is because he is that type of hero; miracles out the ass and amazing budo spirit and that's enough for me.
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If you don't want to bring up a serious comparison, why do you go to the Superman vs. Goku pictures?
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I was asked to take a look at this one. But I've looked at others in the past, because I'm an artist who appreciates a great drawing, and a DB fan. Why's it gotta be more complicated than that?
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"Blitzed into paste" Whatever dude, Goku has more power at SSJ3 (since you say no GT) and strength and speed (maybe) than superman. That's all. I mean, I guess it's impossible to convince you. So I give up... or maybe I have convince you and you're just pressing forward in this argument cause you have too much pride or something like that.
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If you really think Goku is so fast, what's the best display of speed that he has?
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I don't know, can't really think of one, but all I'm saying is that Superman can not move at the speed of light and that Goku has shown a great amount of speed in battle, I mean he may not be faster than Superman but I'm pretty sure he can keep up with him. And Goku obviously has more power than Superman, in physical strength and in special ability's (Kai blast, Instant transmission, the legendary Dragon fist!!!, etc...) and also Goku's always growing and learning new techniques, and gaining more power all through the 53 years he's been alive, it's like he doesn't have a limit. It's because of his Saiyan blood, as a Saiyan's strength increases every time a battle leaves him at near death. Have I convinced you yet dude? 0.0
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On top of that, Superman travelled to another UNIVERSE, as he even states.
Can you put up and argument against that?
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Okay I give, you win, Superman's superior to Goku, but only cause Superman has existed way longer than Dragon ball so therefore there has been more work done on Superman and his ability's. I'll take over Dragon ball and make such Goku's powers surpasses Superman.
Superman still can't whip Broly.
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