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Random pic. Remember when the 'what if this character was secretly a changeling' level of headcanons were common?Good luck, changeling-Cadence!
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Shining Armor, "Well, I'm happy about you telling this BEFORE we got married. To show how tolerant I am, I even invited your sister and all her kids!"
Cadence, "Uh-oh."
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Up next Chrysalis turns into a real pony PERMANENTLY.
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ALL THE PLOT TWISTS!
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That is a very interesting question, love the picture though, did an awesome job.
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Haha, I guess that's one reaction to the 'your spouse is a monster' scenario.
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This would make for an interesting fanfic.
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"Remember when the 'what if this character was secretly a changeling' level of headcanons were common?"
Sigh... I feel like the season 6 finale really broke changeling-fiction.
I was hoping something would come off it in the long run, but besides a handfull of fluff pieces of King Thorax adjusting to his new position, or some drones complaining about their changed appearance, we really lost way more from that finale then we ever got out of it.
You can't really write a "X is secretly a changeling" story anymore these days. 
The whole conflict just evaporates if "sharing your love freely turns you into a colorful bug-horse without any love-hunger or angst and everypony will happily accept you" just breaks the typical narrative drama if, say, Bonbon was secretly a changeling all along. Plus, I still prefer the old changeling-design.
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There's that one comic pointing out that the form change actually changed NOTHING (they can still shapeshift and so on)... Apart from Hasbro's willingness to portray them as good guys now that they're not black, heh.
And I don't mind the new changeling minion design (not the princes': green+orange gradient = NOPE), but the original look was perfect, so the new one isn't needed. Could have been used for new bug ponies instead of continuing to mess with the changelings! 
I still don't like that they're not all female, either. It's a really simple colony insect fact, so you'd think they could get it right in a show aimed at girls (at least with the bees if not with the changelings)... Then again, the animal facts have been consistently poor in FIM (rats ARE predators; squirrels and rabbits DON'T hibernate; etc).
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fan of "cutie mark crusaders of never get cutie mark?" because you sond like that
the only permanent in the world is the change
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He's right, though. Not only was the finale a mess, but it did make the Changelings less interesting.
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let me understand: you prefer a dying, militar, urecongizable, holed and always angry insect?
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No, I prefer something that can create adversity, suspense, challenge. Not a pointless faction that appeared without any reason and had no relevance.
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and always live with tension in the ambient? no thank you
also if you see the world, we have always two options, or you are an ally or you are an enemy (sadly be neutral always need to give up to one side, eventually)
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But that's precisely the point: to provide antagonists, to leave a threat in the shadows, instead of putting it in the "Redemption" closet and waiting for new ones to pop out of nowhere for no good reason. I'm not talking from an objective standpoint but from a narrative one, which is, ultimately, what a show is about.
Before, the changelings were a sprawling threat with mysterious origins and nefarious goals. Now, they are just yet one more redeemed villain that have lost all spice or interest. They have become bland as heck. And, again, their redemption made no sense, and the whole episode was a ham-fisted debacle running on shameless contrivances to make the plot go where the writers wanted it to go, without any regard for coherence or verisimilitude.
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believe me, a constant antagonist is a pain in the flank. they transform in two types, idiots or nightmare in hell
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Ironically, reformed changelings are both idiotic and nightmarish.
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It's not so much an opinion as a judgment based on objective criteria.
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well, i'm still interested about the theme, but we can be in a loooong way to go and go nowhere, not?
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Well, you were the one who dismissed my point with nothing but "mmm as your opinion."
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ahahaha sorry about that
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You are misinterpreting my point;
This is about the fanfiction scene as a whole - not the show by itself.
The show provides fanfiction writers with a rich setting in which to explore characters, "what if"-s, and themes the show could not possibly adress itself, not even just because of the "children also watching the show" argument, but simply because an episode is limited to 22-ish minutes.
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Sure, I like reading stories about happy changelings. But I also like stories to have some sort of dramatic tension, and they basically resolved all of that. Like Krazylec said, "it did make the Changelings less interesting", I (w)hole-heartedly agree.
Imagine a story setup like this:
Bonbon is secretly a changeling! She left the swarm long before the invasion -- and now, she learns of her former Queen's plans for Canterlot... And Lyra's already attending as one of Queen Crysalis' bridesmaids! Can Bonbon save her "best friend" from her own Queen? Dropping her disguise and blending in with the rest of the swarm may be the only way to get her back! But can Lyra forgive her for lying all this time? 
....Of course she can, but one would imagine that to take place during a big dramatic moment where Bonbon is forced to drop her disguise to persuade some other changelings to back off, and then Lyra thinking she isn't the real Bonbon, and so on and so forth. All ending with Bonbon absorbing Lyra's love and contributing to Chrysalis' defeat -- and then ascending to Queenhood herself. All Hail Queen Bonbon of the new Swarm! And she and Lyra lived happily ever after. 
Well. Until Bonbon laid her first batch of half-pony/half-changeling eggs, that is.
...Well, that's what one could've imagined before the season 6 finale.
Now it would probably go something more like this:
Bonbon is secretly a changeling!
Then the newspaper reports changelings are now at peace with Equestria, and all the good changelings are brightly colored.
She drops her disguise - she's obviously become a yellow-colored changeling a long time ago and hasn't fed on love in, like, 10 years or so.
Lyra briefly is annoyed because she lied this whole time.
And that's it.
Where's the story in this? It's good for a one-shot parody slice of life maybe, but that's all. 
>"fan of "cutie mark crusaders of never get cutie mark?" because you sound like that"
No, although I do miss all the zany stories people came up with for how the CMC would eventually get their marks, or what outlandish talents they may get.
Heh, I remember one story, where the CMC tried to get cutiemarks in necromancy. Oh boy.
But in contrast to the "new and improved" changelings, the show also gave us something else to write about: The CMC helping others discover their marks. Like, someone wrote a story of the CMC helping out [major character from MLP movie] with their talent. There's stuff you can write about here!
I said it in my comment above - I was hoping something interesting was gonna come of from these "neon-changelings", but that never happened. Nopony has any good ideas what to write about them. Their arc is already resolved, the tension is gone.
Changeling stories used to be a staple of this fandom's fiction scene. They haven vanished, but they have taken a massive blow. Most good changeling stories I know that are still running are those that had already started before the s6-finale happened.
That sort of thing is discouraging to writers, starting a new story with outdated canon doesn't feel right, it robs the story of its sense of immersion.
I'm gonna take a wild guess that you maybe aren't as much in pony-fanfiction as me?
If you only look at the show, and not any derivative works based on it, then sure, I too like seeing happy changelings and Chrysalis getting overthrown.
But I just prefer to get more of it than the show could possibly provide - you can only do so much in 22 to 44 minutes - and that's what fanfiction is for. (You can't tell a "Lord of the Rings", a "Star Wars" ...... nor a "Through the Well of Pirene", a "A Voice among the Strangers", a "Friendship is Optimal", a "It takes a Village", a "Rise", a "Project Sunflower", nor a "Daring Do and the Secret of the Fourth Wall" in 22 minutes either.) 
It's just that the show basically "closed the book" on us, and nopony has any good ideas how to "continue" the changelings' story as a whole.
And that's what I didn't like about the season 6 finale. Other than that, I did like finale.Β
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But there were those changelings replacing ponies in Ponyville. What happened to them after Chrysalis left? They didn't show that. Only changelings who were at the hive at that moment were converted for sure.
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Yeah..... I had a headcanon for this too.
"Only changelings who were at the hive at that moment were converted for sure."
Actually, that was my headcanon. Only, I came up with a pseudo-scientific explanation for it, see the author's comment in this comic:
...Except then Thorax' brother showed up, and subsequently got "colorized" by the end of that episode, meaning it wasn't a one-time occurance.
I guess one could still argue there are other hives, maybe it wouldn't work of for them?
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There is also a possibility that there were others who left the hive by themselves, unloyal to Thorax for some reason. And Equestria (excluding those who visited the hive) might still be afraid of changelings, neon or not, which might force some to stay disguised.
On the other side - you're right about fanfics. It breaks them with 'instant transform', and complicates future ones. What do these potentially rogue changelings think? Do they still hold grudge against Equestria, even if there's no one to report to? Are they maybe wild enough to not understand love at all? What about the team who impersonated M6, could they really transform after what they were?
Then though: after some time of awareness that changelings exist, Equestrians cease to be surprised of them one way or another.
Changelings have to be changing in some ways, whether or not it's a mistake that they leave their hive unguarded.
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then why don't stop? one of the rules about writting (any) is give your personal touch. Reminds me Disney trying to use the star wars myth, they didn't want to angry (at least not much) the fans, so the no canon stories became legens: stories than can be in an alternative universe without taking the new movies (one example, in the semi official chrono story, chewbaca dies when a planet is destroyed, the idea stays, but chewbacca stills alive)
more than close the book, is more ideas in the book: the changelings black ones accepted the change, but one decided not to do that and stay in his base form. With that in mind, you can work more (some ideas, of course cannot be canon now, like the applejack's parents, in one version they say than are in theΒ psychiatric hospital, but after some explanations, they are clearly deadΒ ), we always work with that in mind, we always dream than our stories can be canon, but is always hard to do, but that never stopped us. One example is CLAMP (Sakura, Rayearth, angelic layer, code geass), they begin with fanfics inspired in saint seiya.
Simply, don't give up the ideas, keep working and never let die that ideas
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