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I have a few purposes for making this stamp. First of all, I wanted to see about using Adobe ImageReady to make my animated .gif (I believe I have done so pretty successfully - the stamp looks good and you will notice that the file is considerably smaller than my other animated stamps).Also, this stamp sort of goes along with another stamp about making offensive artwork. [link]
As I was saying in the comments of my related stamp, freedom of expression is a two way street. If you want to be able to say whatever you want, part of that right includes the other guy's right - under freedom of expression - to argue the point.
I can most readily supply examples from my observations as a Christian. It goes both ways. Atheists - if you throw around terms like "Sky Wizard", "Zombie Offspring" and suchlike, don't cry "bigot" when people tell you to knock it off. Christians - If you're going to keep throwing Psalm 14:1 around out of context or calling April 1 national Atheists' Day, don't cry "persecution" when those on the receiving end of your insults give you a nice cup of STFU.
Next time you want to make a big fuss about "Freedom of Expression", remember that you're not the only one who has it.
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SonicBoom-zers [2016-07-14 14:02:57 +0000 UTC]
Some atheist kept flaming of what we believe in.
We defended respectfully.
Then she claimed we are forcing our religion down her throats. When in reality, we just disagreed and had evidence why. When we just disagree and don't say why, she said we are bigots and have no reasoning. Then she told us to stop talking to her, when you responded first.
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What the HECK is the purpose of commenting on a pro-christ stamp then? Did we even flame you?
Freedom of Speech. If you say something, expect someone to reply. They will. And they COULD. As long it isn't harming/or will harm you, we are obtained the right to the first amendment.
Honestly people,
Let it go! We can respect our beliefs without flaming each other.
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purbl--skylar [2015-04-24 23:41:39 +0000 UTC]
You saved my life, I have a hater nagging me around and I let other haters know by putting this up
thank you so much for this stamp
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UsagiToxic [2014-07-25 20:45:36 +0000 UTC]
Christians don't have a right to "offensive replies" - remember about turning the other cheek! If one does not follow this = not a Christian. Period.
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HarmonicSonic In reply to UsagiToxic [2014-07-26 15:07:09 +0000 UTC]
What should happen and what does happen are two different things.Β Also, there's a difference between turning the other cheek and being a doormat.Β Saying "if someone does/doesn't do X, then they're not a True Christianβ’" in a black-and-white way is also a dangerous thing to do, because then we're trying to speak for God.
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UsagiToxic In reply to HarmonicSonic [2014-07-26 15:28:40 +0000 UTC]
Hah! Just as I expected, excuses all the way. "We've been forbidden to do that, but..." Faith and obedience, which are required for True Christian (tm), do not work that way.
And somehow it's always "we are allowed to", not anything else.
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HarmonicSonic In reply to UsagiToxic [2014-07-26 18:30:10 +0000 UTC]
Look, if you're just looking for more dirt on people who see the world differently from you, you can just move on.Β If you've got this much of a problem with Christians just because they tell you things you don't like, I don't see how this kind of attitude makes you any better than the judgmental people you're so upset about.Β Now, if you don't want to be any better than that, then I'm probably wasting my time here, in which case have a nice life.Β Otherwise, perhaps you should think about taking a different approach.Β Christians aren't responsible for your happiness.
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UsagiToxic In reply to HarmonicSonic [2014-07-26 19:37:34 +0000 UTC]
I don't want to be better or worse, I just want to be myself.
Sadly, Christians and Muslims think that they absolutely have to set me on the right path, just like everyone else. My home country is at risk of becoming another Iran, and the only alternative is infected with Christianity, where religious jerks propose ridiculous laws and try to steal the culture and science, pushing it back into Dark Ages, because they do not wish to understand, that religion belongs to the ivory towers and churches, not the real world. And they base it on what? The old book of Jewish fairytales. Great.
By the way, the baptizing which was forced onto me almost killed me.Β
So yeah, Christians are responsible for lots of things, and they are not going to get away with it. My actions are simply a defense, because if I don't protest today, I will wake up as inferior being tomorrow.
And you... you can't even follow your own "book of rules". Nobody can.
I wish you a nice life too and to finally abandon the stupid outdated set of Jewish fairytales which haven't done anything good to the world or people.
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HarmonicSonic In reply to UsagiToxic [2014-07-26 18:23:36 +0000 UTC]
"Hah! Just as I expected, excuses all the way."
So you judged me before you ever even talked to me?Β Well, that's one mark against faith and obedience, since the Bible says not to judge.
"We've been forbidden to do that, but..."
See, that's exactly the kind of "speaking for God" thing I was talking about.Β "I read this in the Bible, so this is the only meaning anyone can get from it, and if they disagree, they're arguing with God, not me."Β That's what it is to speak for God (which, by the way, is sometimes known as blasphemy), so there's another mark against faith and obedience - since the Bible's got some pretty definite ideas on the subject of blasphemy (which you well know, since you're obviously so much more enlightened than the rest of us pathetic mortals).
"Faith and obedience, which are required for True Christian (tm), do not work that way."
Maybe not in the ivory towers of some churches, but in the real world they do.Β That's one of the whole reasons Jesus lived on earth for thirty-odd years in the first place.
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Zidneya [2014-04-29 03:37:00 +0000 UTC]
Why do you think I make offensive comments in the first place?
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Usagi-Zakura [2013-09-13 09:01:22 +0000 UTC]
Most people who make offensive comments at me just make a fuzz, usually for no good reason, and then block me immediately afterwards.
That's almost a bit sad... But at least I don't have to listen to their whining.
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Mawichan [2013-07-12 06:09:40 +0000 UTC]
You make many possitive/not hating stamps don't you?
...Let me love you!
.. as much as someone can love a random person on the internet..
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HarmonicSonic In reply to CrowInTheOliveTree [2013-06-09 17:09:08 +0000 UTC]
No, I really do mean "expect", as in anticipate or be prepared.
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CrowInTheOliveTree In reply to HarmonicSonic [2013-06-10 02:25:44 +0000 UTC]
Oh, I thought you said except. I hate you English...
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Gwenvar [2013-03-17 11:45:09 +0000 UTC]
"Next time you want to make a big fuss about "Freedom of Expression", remember that you're not the only one who has it." That's very wise saying :3
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Fb-PHE13 [2013-03-14 21:53:57 +0000 UTC]
Thank you!
I mean, I see a lot of people post offensive comments, then get mad when someone replies with an offensive comment!
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blueheron93 [2011-08-04 12:31:42 +0000 UTC]
Nice cup of STFU... I know that's an old phrase, but it gets funnier everytime it's said.
And yeah, if you go around bashing people, expect to get bashed in return.
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HarmonicSonic In reply to blueheron93 [2011-08-04 21:02:09 +0000 UTC]
Yep, and don't get surprised when it actually does happen.
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SonicBoom-zers In reply to KissTheThunder [2016-07-14 14:05:53 +0000 UTC]
* Sees you everywhere. *
c:
Hello...
Clarisseβ¦.
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(Quote me)
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KissTheThunder In reply to SonicBoom-zers [2016-07-14 14:11:22 +0000 UTC]
o-o Am I in a hall of mirrors?
and I laughed
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Ionosphere-Negate [2011-02-05 05:33:29 +0000 UTC]
If you can't take it, don't dish it out.
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HarmonicSonic In reply to Ionosphere-Negate [2011-02-05 14:22:13 +0000 UTC]
Exactly. Thanks
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harrypotterafan [2011-02-05 02:39:51 +0000 UTC]
THANK YOUUU
These people who want their opinions shoved everywhere and then act like "people are so insensitive and they all pick fights with me" are crybabies.
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HarmonicSonic In reply to harrypotterafan [2011-02-05 04:08:00 +0000 UTC]
Yeah - that's the general point I was making.
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rarkorn [2011-02-05 01:03:38 +0000 UTC]
...What does April 1 have to do with religion? I've never heard of anything like that before.
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HarmonicSonic In reply to rarkorn [2011-02-05 01:05:17 +0000 UTC]
April 1 = April Fools' Day = National Atheists' Day (It's a pseudo-clever way of insulting Atheists)
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rarkorn In reply to HarmonicSonic [2011-02-05 01:12:41 +0000 UTC]
Ah.
XD
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HarmonicSonic In reply to rarkorn [2011-02-05 01:14:22 +0000 UTC]
Well, take a look at the rest of the artist comments - it goes both ways... But of course you already knew it was an ass comment, so no worries
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rarkorn In reply to HarmonicSonic [2011-02-05 01:17:10 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I know it goes both ways.
I just don't understand why people have to be so forceful about believing in something like that if you just don't feel the same way, whether you believe in another religion or no religion at all. Isn't the Christian God supposed to be "tolerant", or something?
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HarmonicSonic In reply to rarkorn [2011-02-05 01:33:23 +0000 UTC]
I know what you're saying. I'm not trying to force anything on you. I was just pointing out that some people believe God to be very real, and calling him an "imaginary friend" serves no constructive purpose, any more than calling an atheist a fool does. As for tolerance - God is love, and love supposedly endures all things, according to the Bible, so, I guess you could call that tolerance, right?
(This is getting a little off the point of the stamp, though. If you want to keep talking about it, feel free to note me )
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rarkorn In reply to HarmonicSonic [2011-02-05 02:29:42 +0000 UTC]
When I say imaginary friend, though, I don't usually mean that in an offensive way, since both religion and imaginary friends are just a matter of whether or not you believe. It's mostly a metaphor, but some people just get offended by it anyway without bothering to listen to what I have to say.
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HarmonicSonic In reply to rarkorn [2011-02-05 04:06:20 +0000 UTC]
Ah, okay. I understand. It's just that "imaginary friend" is usually mentioned in a demeaning context.
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rarkorn In reply to HarmonicSonic [2011-02-05 04:10:37 +0000 UTC]
It's supposed to be a metaphor. And that's my point, though. Everyone who ever talks to me about religion is the type of person who wants to be offended by everything and turns everything I say into an insult of some sort.
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HarmonicSonic In reply to rarkorn [2011-02-05 04:12:58 +0000 UTC]
I know it's a metaphor. I'm not offended by it. I just think the misinterpretations are understandable.
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rarkorn In reply to HarmonicSonic [2011-02-05 04:27:49 +0000 UTC]
I don't think the misinterpretations are understandable when I'm making an effort to be reasonable and the overall tone of my comment isn't hostile. People just want to be offended by everything.
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HarmonicSonic In reply to rarkorn [2011-02-05 04:34:59 +0000 UTC]
When one repeatedly uses a term around a group of people, even after being politely asked to stop, that is offensive, regardless of tone. All I'm saying is that not everyone who doesn't appreciate the term "imaginary friend" is offended by everything. Especially considering the fact that most people who believe in God do not believe him to be imaginary. 'Nuff said.
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rarkorn In reply to HarmonicSonic [2011-02-05 04:39:44 +0000 UTC]
I never repeat it, though. It's one simple similarity that I mention and people choose to make a big deal about it.
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myheartyoung [2011-02-05 00:21:01 +0000 UTC]
faved because of the artist's comment. great way to put it.
I also believe this~
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HarmonicSonic In reply to myheartyoung [2011-02-05 00:21:49 +0000 UTC]
Thanks. Glad you liked it
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Kellodrawsalot [2011-02-04 18:45:18 +0000 UTC]
I agree it happened to me a few times where a Christian said offensive things about gays on Deviantart when people pointed out the mistakes and bullshit he/she always cries BAAWW Freedom of expression ! while hiding and blocking people who disagree with them.
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CrowInTheOliveTree In reply to Kellodrawsalot [2013-06-09 02:27:49 +0000 UTC]
Christian lesbian right here. Trust me it is harder for me than it is for the rest of you...or at least it should seem that way.
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