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I have to say that I am on Rumple's side with his decision to throw out Belle here. She made it into a contest between her and his magic. And to shock him by doing it without asking... I understand why he felt attacked, even if he knew it wasnt meant as one. In his head this contest wasn't about living happily but powerless with Belle or living his dream of being the ultimate top dog..... it was a contest between having a liiiiittle more time with Belle before everything went to hell with them both dying horribly in a short amount of time, and sending her off so at least one of them could have a shot at being happy (eventually).
I love Belle but sometimes her level of faith in good luck is baffling.
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I wouldn't care, I'd let him keep his magic... Even if, (in Belle's place), it meant I could never kiss him. NOTE I said IN BELLE'S PLACE!
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At least from the evidence of what we've seen at that point, Rumple's kept pretty good control over his magic. He needed to change, sure, but i dont' see why he had to give up magic entirely.
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I feel the same way, he just needed a little push to change. He didn't need to give up his magic entirely!
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About dang time someone else saw it this way too! I get it, Rumple is often a jerk, so some of his criticism is deserved. Yet Belle is often an idiot, and no one says anything!
She is going to trust a well known Evil Queen over the guy she is supposed to love!? How does that even make sense!
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I have a couple of other comics planned for pointing out Belle's... episodes of bipolar-ness. I love Belle, but she can be, as you put it, an idiot.
It doesn't! I thought she was supposed to have a sense about people... did it get switched off when she met Reggie?
They were kind of both at fault I guess... She made a mistake by not asking if he wanted to live a life without powers (and kind of wording it so it sounded like she wouldn't have him if he didn't give up his powers), and he automatically flipped out and accused her of being a traitor. Perhaps, if he had calmly explained to her that he had too many enemies built up that would kill him (and possibly her) or lock him (and possibly her) up in a snap, which included powerful ones like Regina who was already apparently taking an interest in how Belle's TLKing Rumple would turn out, Belle would have amended her conditions from "get rid of your powers" to "amend your life code". But she did set herself up in a situation where it would be difficult for him to believe she loved him...
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I cannot wait to see what you have in store!
And I see your point . . . But, honestly, I still don't see why Bell was so ready to trust someone she just met. I mean, she had to know that Rumple had a reason for being the way he was. And after he was finally started opening up to her, she just automatically assumed he didn''t need that magic anymore? It makes no sense . . .
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Sometimes I think her "people sense" is just her automatically thinking the best of everybody unless they do something that makes her wary of them. A dangerous way of living if you don't have a strong paranoid person on your side... It's already gotten her captured a lot, hit, shot, and her mind poisoned with false memories.
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I love Belle but I was really shocked when she just kissed him. I mean, come on! She's intelligent, she could think that maybe he don't want to be powerless and that when he would be powerless, then all people which he hurt/killed (or their families) would be seek for revenge. I really thought that she will talk with him first and not just assume that he wants to his curse was broken... Especially that she knew that he is suspicious and after difficult experiences...
But in Storybrooke they fixed things between them, so everything is alright
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It kind of makes me not feel very sorry for her... I mean, if there was a situation where fate put the ultimatum "Belle's life or your power", it might have been different. But she decided to just spring the ultimatum on him herself...
It bothers me that nobody seems to have the slightest bit of compassion for Rumple when he is scared of things... like of being unloved. I mean, I know that in order for the relationship to reach it's full potential he needs to believe that they love him and want to stay with him, but it's not like he wants to believe he can't be loved. Like he wants to believe that everything that can go wrong will go wrong. He's got complexes built up of past experiences that he needs help to get out of.
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Yeah, I know, and I was a little angry at Belle that she didn't thought about his fears and did something like that... She behaved really selfish.
I was almost crying when he destroyed crockery but not the chipped cup, and later his face when Belle told him that all he will have is an empty heart and a chipped cup...
After what his father had done to him, and Milah, and Cora (and maybe someone else too, who knows...), is no wonder that he was affraid of love so much and reacted in that way.
But I think that Belle understood her mistake and in Storybrooke she was more supporting for him.
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Bae, too, sort of. In Nasty Habits when he was accusing Rumple of being afraid of him not coming back he had this attitude about him that shouted "And maybe I shouldn't!" And then he got angry at Rumple when he didn't trust that he would agree to come home and spirited him away from Pan. Come on! In that situation, being sure that Pan would hurt Bae if he went with him, if he wasn't totally sure that he would say 'yes' to coming home with him asking would have been selfish... And I get that Bae is upset with a lot of Rumple's new lifestyle choices, but did he not see what society put him through?
Right. After The Crocodile, anyway.
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I always had mixed feelings about Bae. I mean, from one hand he was just a kid who wanted his father back (loving father, not a loving monster-father). He obviously couldn't really understand through what Rumple is passing. I think he actually wasn't thinking about the reasons why Rumple didn't ask him, but for him only matters was the fact that he didn't ask. But when he said to Rumple something like "He can't be worst than you" (about Pan), my heart just broke. That was so damn boorish!
But what I meant was that Pan, Milah and Cora pretended that they loved him and then they cheated him. Bae hurt him too, yeah, but he always loved him and Rumple knew that (I think).
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True. Young Bae did have to go through a lot of crap with Rumple being the way he was... I wonder if there's going to be more to that story, like it'll show that there were attacks or near attacks on Rumple or Bae's life and people kind of still trying to treat Rumple like he was a pushover and trying to cheat him all the time... That maybe Bae didn't know about, so Rumple's paranoia just looked totally unwarrented.
That is also true. I only counted Bae because he was doing stuff that kind of fed Rumple's doubts by acting so cold when he passed the theory that he was worried that he would never come back. I know he must have just been stressed and not knowing what to do with himself, but his attitude in that scene just kind of bothered me... I mean, if you thought someone you cared about was worried that you wouldn't come back but you knew that you would, wouldn't you want to try to assure them that you would instead of acting like you should because they're worried? It's not like they want to be worried about it... I guess that was kind of unfair to count him even so, though, because he really did love him.
Maybe my extreme dislike of the very hypocritical Neal is transitioning to Bae?
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I hope they will show more of their past.
You know, I think he was kinda lost, I mean Bae. First he lost his mother, then all this stuff with war and his father becoming the Dark One, and Bae was just a sad and scared kid who suddenly lost all his friends (scene where all kids are running away when they see Bae, only because he's son of the Dark One) and all mistakes which Rumple was doing, didn't help. He was trying be good father although he never had good example, and I think that deep inside Bae knew that Rumple is doing all of this (like keeping him home) to protect him, but he was rebelling and I can kinda understand that. From his perspective he didn't see every threats which Rumple could see, like Pan for example.
Why hypocritical?
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Maybe also Rumple wasn't spending as much time with him because he was always out trying to get more power?
He's a hypocrite because he abandoned Emma (and Henry. I don't care that he didn't know about Henry. Henry existed so he counts) and never even tried to give Emma closure. Something that apparently in his book was the unforgivable sin. He was refusing to forigive Rumple for it and yet he seems to expect that he's going to be forgiven for his abandonment of his family right off the bat just because he managed to accidently knock Emma up before he ditched her?
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Hm, well... Looking like that he is indeed a hypocrite, but still his motives and Rumple's motives were different. He thought it would be a better choice to let her own fulfill her destiny. Still, he hurt her like hell and thinking that she will forgive him, when he couldn't forgave Rumple was stupid.
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Also, he chickened out of being a sacrifice for the Darling boys.
Motive doesn't mean much at all when the person doesn't know it. At least Bae knew why he was abandoned... Rumple was terrified of living without magic. Emma had NO idea why she was dumped. She was on her way to start a normal life with Neal and then suddenly BAM, cops are pointing guns at her face and hauling her off to jail. Plus, if Emma had been asked if she wanted to save her parents or stay with Neal she probably would have picked Neal, so this decision was forced on her and more for her parents and the residents of Storybrooke than for her. If he really cared about Emma AND wanted her to be reunited with her parents and people so badly, he should have told her everything about himself and her situation.... If she said "you're crazy" and dumped him, then it's her fault she was alone all those years. If she believed him and they went to Storybrooke together they probably could have broken the curse YEARS earlier.
The more I think about it the more Neal's "motive" sounds like just something he insists is true to feel better about himself, and the real reason he abandoned her was that he was too afraid to live with magic to even try to be with her.
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From that point of look, Neal did a worst thing to Emma than Rumple to him. Well, we don't know what was in his head. He could believe that she would stay with him instead of going to Storybrooke and he didn't want that, he wanted to she rescue her parents. Or he just picked easier way, a life without magic. But, I don't remember exactly right now, but did August didn't say that when Emma will break the curse, he will send message to Neal (which he did) and then Neal could come to her? He (Neal) said to Mulan that he was afraid to come to her, that she couldn't forgive him (or something like that, I don't quite remember).
But what wonders me more is how Pinocchio knew that Neal is Bae? I mean, he couldn't know him at the Enchanted Forest, as Bae was there hundreds years before even Geppetto born... But, nevermind ;d.
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I want to know exactly why he couldn't go with Emma to Storybrooke. It just baffles me why he apparently needed to dump her.
Yes he did. And by the time Neal got the all-clear message he had decided not to go to Emma and got himself engaged to Tammy instead. He could have gone to her but he didn't because he was afraid of being rejected and of being around magic. And when Rumple finally got to go to Neal (in the LAND WITHOUT MAGIC and WITH VERY LITTLE HOPE OF ACTUALLY BEING FORGIVEN) Neal just blew him off. Grrr...
I have a theory that The Blue Fairy told August about Bae somehow.
Bae went to London and then to Neverland, where he stayed for a very long time, and then somehow he got to earth. So I think that he would have to have been told about him somehow. And Blue was one of the few people still alive from the time when Bae was in the Enchanted Forest... that had actually met him.
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Hm, I never thought about Blue, but you might be right.
Through all scenes between Neal and Rumple, where Neal is screaming at him or accusing him (like in Neverland, where he didn't believe him that came there to rescue Henry, not kill him), and Rumple had tears in eyes... It was so sad 
But yeah, Bae was affraid just like Rumple was before and he did similar thing, but when in season 3 he wanted a second chance from her, he also forgave Rumple.
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It just shows how deeply Rumple can love when he lets himself. He could have been like Pan and said "You won't forgive me? Ok f you."
Emma kind of did... It wasn't yelling but, she did tell him she wished he was dead. And she stood him up.
Yeah... after he found out that Tammy was evil. "HEY! My fiance is actually evil, so the wedding is off and now I am free to persue you again! Let's forget it was totally my fault I got engaged to her instead of trying to come find you again."
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Rumple is so tragic and yet a lovely character
Maybe Neal just needed some kick to realize what he actually wants and whos he really loves.
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He is!
Rumple tried and he got yelled at for it. Of course, he was being a jerk about it, but, you know...
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But honestly, I don't think that Rumple let Belle go because he wanted to protect her. I think that he was just (and only) scared. I mean, he was screaming to the mirror accusing Regina that she wanted tricked him and she turned Belle against him, then he accused Belle that she worked alone and it was all her that she wanted tricked him, then he destroyed crockery and cabinet to not take his anger out on Belle, and then he let her go. And I think he was too scared to believe that this feeling can be actually true, but he loved her so much, that he didn't want to hurt her (like he did with Milah), so he let her go, and he realized that she wasn't lying, when Regina came to him.
Frankly, I think if he wanted to protect her, if it was his motivation, then he would have reacted a little different.
But the true is that Belle didn't think about consequences of her actions. Not only how Rumple might react, but also about all these people hating him and wanting his death.
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WHAT?? Things get resolved between them later on!
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>3< I know that! But... But whhhyyy.. *Flop*
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Because I don't think it's fair how hard everybody is on Rumple for kicking Belle out. He made the decision he thought was best for both of them (based off the ultimatum that she placed) and he's called a coward for it.
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That, and everybody keeps throwing his past in his face every time he tries to redeem himself--as he's on the road to redemption! IT's like, "GUYS. TAKE A REST ALREADY. IF YOU DONT WANT A FIREBALL UP YO ASS, DONT LET HIM TURN INTO A REGINA. GAWD."
... Though I think Rumple is a hell of a lot more sensible than Regina--JUSTSAYING.
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MRRRRRRRRRRRR.
Just watched recent episode that released today for Once Upon a time, on amazon.
...
Mrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...
mrrr...
FREAKING FLYING MONKEYS.
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And I was hoping that Walsh would turn out to be a good guy for Emma. :C
That. Is one. Freaking. Disturbing. Werid. Plauge.
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Ikr!?
My mom theorizes the lost boys turned into flying monkeys.
It's weird.
Also. How come I haven't friended you yet and made a chat room for random fangirl Once upon a time conversations?
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NEITHER HOOK NOR NEAL SHOULD HAVE HER DANGIT!
I thought everybody was turning into monkeys... You saw the preview for the next episode(s) right?
I have no idea!
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I have no idea if I'm wrong to say this, but it'd be ironic if Hook ... hooked up... (giggles) with Tinkerbelle. Neal needs to learn to lurv. He's a butt. mrrrrrr..
But Regina and Robin hood.
That was a plot twist--
Wait.
...
Wat.
Waaaaaaaat.
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!?
ineedtoremedythisrightthismoment.
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I do not want to see that happen. Ever.
I have to say that I ship Hook with Regina. Because I dislike them both a lot and I want them to sail off the edge of the world together.. I don't ship Regina with Robin Hood anymore. She picked being the braindead empress of supreme bitchiness over him... I guess if he can change her into being a bearable character I will approve.
I am still angry with Neal because he got engaged to Tamora instead of going to apologize and explain himself to Emma and see if she miraculously still had feelings for him enough to give him a second chance after that. And not only that, he struts around like he's so much better than Rumple, when he kind of abandoned Emma in a much worse way than Rumple abandoned him. At least Baelfire knew why he was abandoned - his father was too scared of living without magic. Emma had NO idea why she was abandoned. She was on her way to start her new life with the guy she loved and BAM, cops are pointing guns at her face and hauling her off to jail (oh, yeah, and just before he left her he got her pregnant! I don't care that he didn't know if she was pregnant, it was obviously a possibility so he counts.).
Sorry... started ranting there...
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No! No. Because in all honesty, I can see where that can really enrage a person.
... No kidding, seriously.
Just. No kidding. Holy shit. FJNBSKlfmagdnklsgdaflkrNBLKFADKLFHGMFASDGNJ FREAKINGNIELANDHOOKbecausehe'sadickandapiratebutmostlyadickFDGNSFKRFGDMBSKGNADSBNHANDUSELESSREGINAARG.
And like, then we find out that freaking Regina pissed off the wicked witch of the west. It's like. "WHAT MORE CAN YOU DO TO THESE PEOPLE YOU MORON! JEESUS."
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Are you talking about Regina/Hook sailing off the world together or my anti-Neal rant?
Whatever Regina did to Wicked was probably done at some point in the past, which apparently people have decided to overlook as long as she doesn't go bad again.
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Anti-Neal Rant, fo sho.
But aye, apparently so! Lol.
No doubt in the next episode--next week even--we'll see just what Regina did. Mrrrr.
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:3
Then again, it might be like with Regina's issue with Snow and they'll make us wait forever to hear/see what it was...
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*SIGHS* Bloody hell, I hope not.
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I'm fine with it either way. I don't really ship them, but deciding between them being happy for five minutes and then dying or leaving each other and not dying, I'd go with the not dying because then we get to see more Rumple!
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Definitely! WANT MORE RUMPLE!!
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Well...Yeah! He's one of the best characters on the show!
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