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Published: 2008-09-19 19:49:09 +0000 UTC; Views: 18639; Favourites: 1100; Downloads: 146
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i dont support it because i almost tried it! i had inspiration for this stamp from this news article here news.deviantart.com/article/57...read it! it's very powerful, and very moving! it had me in tears by the time i had finished commenting on it! and the comment you can find right here and all the replies to it. comments.deviantart.com/2/5787...
let me know if you use it! so i can see it in action!!
template from $zilla774
Oh my god. you people realize that the artist doesn't get to choose what get's a DD. i still have no clue what so ever of why this was chosen as a DD so stop discussing it here. if you dont like it. tell the proper people you can find it here FAQ #873: What do I do when I disapprove of a Daily Deviation feature?
and as for "lumping cutting and suicide together", what can i say... i'm sorry. i'm not going to change it now, and at the time it was what was going through my mind.
for the people who are saying stuff about how cutting can be good. well. i wont lie, my best friend used to cut. she did it to relieve stress. but from my personal standpoint, i know it isn't healthy, and it is something i am very glad i never did.
and if i was refering to assisted suicide i would have put that so please stop using that as an argument as well. i was talking about self suicide. like slitting your wrists or hanging yourself and so on.
any other haters out there... well i'm sorry you feel that way i am not here to change your feelings however.
******UPDATE******
I just uploaded an apology deviation. I feel it's necessary
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maybe in Finland, it is a Human Right... but i'm not in Finland. I am in the United States. and the only place where it is even remotly possible is in Oregon. and i am not even close to there. i am in New Mexico. and it is not a Right here
and as for getting more sensible as i get older... according to your profile... you are 24. so you are 5 years older then me. i didn't realize that when you turn 21 or whatever you gain more wisdom then the first 20 years of your life.
you are talking to me like i am 12 or something.
and i just about fully support human rights... there are some i dont agree with at all... for good reason
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He doesn't not support human rights, just one harmful and arguably selfish action.
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It's not going to stop people doing it though is it? It's not helping anyone, it's just demonising it.
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It might, I have no way of telling. Besides, it's not demonizing anything, it's just stating her opinion on the subject.
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So if I put up a stamp saying the opposite would that also be ok? Would that be making it glamourous?
I don't like manga but I don't waste my time making stamps about it.
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I don't think so, because it would be encouraging harmful behavior. But others might think that there's nothing wrong with it.
Well that's just you, then. Perhaps she felt that it was an important message she wanted to get across to others.
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Perhaps.
I think there are more worthy causes to shout about.
Like how in the UK more money goes to animal charities than to those supporting the disabled.
The plight of the people of Zimbabwe.
People who are denied certain cancer drugs that could save their lives or make their remaining time less painful because of their postcode.
Suicide is an unfortunate part of life for many people, and I don't think it should be bracketed with self-harm. I, of course would be devistated if anyone did that to themselves but it would be their choice.
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Thier certaintly are more important things to shout about, but this was very important and close to her. You say that now, but have you ever lost anyone to suicide?
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Thankfully, no.
I'm not saying it wouldn't be hard, what I am saying is we can't judge how other people should live or indeed end their lives.
I appologise, I agree it is something that is close to her. What I don't agree with is the dA statement that we should listen to it.
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I've cut myself in the past and have attempted suicide before.... And every time I do it I turn happy er a couple of days later and think to my self "God that was stupid of my to do." Awesome stamp!!! Really inspires me!
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That's the most common reaction for some odd reason. Done it and said things similar to myself. But then some time later something eventually pisses me right off my rocker then depending on how bad it feels I can either dig myselb back out again. Or its time to seek major help. I am seeing my 2nd thearpist. But *disclosed gender* has said to me that I can be hospitalized again. Last time I had a horriable day my self-defence instuctor of all people. Called 911. On me. Never held any grudges but because of my experince that happen this year. In March. Now I'm ever more paranoid then I have too feel. Its bad enough there is much abhor in my well-being that I have to keep stuffing it down. Never been placed on medication which forever has protested againist. So at this point I deeply don't know what else to do!?...
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good i'm glad it does to somebody!
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Thank you for making this. I hope everyone supports this. Sad to say that many do not think it will ever happen to them or someone they know, but the possibility is there.
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i have a lot of favs... but people read too deeply into this. it's a stamp. that's all that it is.
and thanks
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But that's just it...when you look at something, you like it because you can draw a connection to it. It is something that has either affected you personally or one you know. That is why you may not fully understand why the genuine people appreciate it (I would give everyone the benefit of the doubt that they connect to it versus the popular way) It's affected my life in more ways than I can count...that is why I drew a connection and responded as such. It just might be a stamp to you, but to others it's so much more. I fav'd it not because it was a DD, but because I whole-heartedly believe in what it states.
and you are most welcome
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yeah... that makes sense
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Message aside this stamp isn't that different from its original template, just a change in main color. That, and the text is rather slow to change, so it feels a bit boring and dragged out. I know I shouldn't complain about choice of a daily deviation, but this is just well.. typical among the many stamps this doesn't have anything to stand out from the rest.
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I really hope you realize that there are people who read each and every comment people post on their deviations. what you have said is very rude. i just barely learned how to make simple animations!
and if i had made it like move really fast... then what about the slow readers. just because you can read fast doesn't mean that everyone can. i have seen stamps where you have to watch it like 8 times just to understand the first three words... is that useful? i dont think so.
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Maybe what I said was very rude, but a criticism is still a criticism- I don't think this is worthy of a daily deviation, that doesn't mean it's bad, but I just feel it isn't up to par with other stamps.
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lol. i dont think it's worthy either really. i've seen a lot of stamps... mine are cheesy compared to them.
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Thank god someone else said it. Did this need to be a stamp? Did it need the slow moving text, or the multiple choices? What next, stamps that say 'I dont support 👍: 0 ⏩: 2
I dont think anyone supports suicide etc...so i dont really think the message needs to be said...especially in such a aesthetically dull way. But the artist went through some stuff and feels the need to share, and many seem to think this is great, it got a DD, so congratz to them for finding a gap to fill.
I really hope you realize that there are people who read each and every comment people post on their deviations. what you have said is very rude. i just barely learned how to make simple animations!
and there are people who do support suicide. i think they are nuts but they do support it.
and at least thank you for saying that last part.
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yeh i know people read every comment, i did myself to see what people said. I didnt want to leave an actual comment to you because its not you thats I felt was in the wrong. People like stamps of anything. I was agreeing with people on the lines of it being a DD and what is considered art nowadays.
Not in an attack on you. I congradulate you on your DD, and I am happy for you with what you've been through to have turned everything around from being sad, and I am sorry that all the negative attention you have received from the DD.
I wouldnt have a go at your artwork, especially if you are learning to make gifs and all that. My cripe, and many others is that it made a DD, which many consider a pinnacle of art. No offence, but like you said, you were just learning to make a stamp. The actual art side of the stamp isn't that huge a step from the original template. That being said, its not your fault nor am I attacking you as an artist, but more the person who chose the DD because a message doesn't deserve a DD, no matter how good the intention. If the stamp was mind-blowing with graphics and animation, maybe it would deserve a DD...but I think the admin was a little flakey choosing this.
Again, i'm sorry. Not aimed at you. I know thats hard to say since I am saying it doesnt deserve a DD. Heck, I had a DD and I think the piece didnt deserve it.
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i just dont know why i got the DD. they dont really tell you do they?
and i understand. as long as your not attacking me, i feel better. i have enough people doing that already
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yeh, it kinda hits you as a surprise. inbox is usually empty, then all of a sudden your getting all these comments, some good, some not so good.
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yeah... but in my case majority of them are not so good.
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Suicide is just probably another way of natural selection.
What I don't support are the tweens who go on their dA journals and then whine that they are going to commit suicide for attention. And I have seen people make "fake death" journals in which apparently they were attacked by their murderer and in their last moments they crawl to the computer and type up some tribute journal talking about all their dA friends before expiring. Like that's entirely plausible.
I think suicide isn't treated seriously among people anymore- in many cases that I have seen those that genuinely contemplate suicide don't make a big scene about it because they don't want many people to know.
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i can't say that suicide is another form of natural selection.
and i agree with your lack of support of that. it's really stupid to do.
My scene was very tiny. i wasn't going to tell anyone. then my friend got online and chatted with me for a few and stopped me without realizing it. (long story) but i told her that i wanted to show her something on friday (two days away) i suffered internally those two days... then that evening i went to her house and wrote on a little peice of paper that i really needed to talk with her about a letter i wrote. she asked me what kind of letter... i on another slip of paper wrote my suicide note. she pulled me aside and we talked for about half an hour. and she was there for me. that's what mattered
small scene. and may people didn't even know about it until recently
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I understand there
- [link] this one wasn't suicide exactly but as you can see it is sort of a journal dealing with death that was a hoax between some accounts.
Also if you are ever on encyclopedia dramatica there's the great Sonic-Cide in which this girl had several accounts in the Sonic fandom and made death journals or suicide journals for attention.
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that is horrible. three people involved in the same foolish story! ugh. why can't people learn.
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Dunno- but when it comes to the internet I am a huge sceptic. If someone claims that the account owner died I usually want some obituary or news article on it- there's always evidence, except when it is made up, hmm?
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well... yeah that's right... i'm just thinking funnily i guess about too much other stuff right now.
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it makes me think of the one stamp that said "I'm against necrophelia"
It's like... preaching to the choir for the most part. But I was more about the art content itself- it doesn't deviate too much from the template, does it?
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does it need to deviate much from from the template? i never read anywhere that things had to change drastically from the template.
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No, it doesn't, I'm just saying that when it doesn't though it's kind of plain. Learn to spice things up a bit, hmm? You can use images, art or other things. In the end though it looks like you're getting a DD while the bulk of it is someone else's work.
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oh... looking at it that way...i see your point. but i didn't choose the DD... i am still confused by why i got it to be honest.
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There's a lot of DDs that seem to be rather out of the blue lately. I remember there was one that was literally a doodle of a bottle with a heart in it that looked like a kid could do it and it was featured because of the "concept" of love in a bottle.
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a doodle... i wouldn't really like all that much...
a complex charcoal drawing or painting... maybe.
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I had no tones, no shading nor depth
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This is actually the DD
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i looked at it... then i looked at the comments... the art is horrible.... the thought good. but horrible drawing... to me at least... there is just nothing to it at all. its bland.
i'm shocked by the comments. i expected a lot of hate, and all of it was love. ugh.
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Most of the criticism was off on other websites, especially on LiveJournal
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oh ok! i understand. yeah... if i had seen that i probably would have commented badly on it
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Just a simple life's lesson for the internet. It's a bit different offline, though, at least if someone tries to threaten suicide you can call the police or something.
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yeah... that is true... nobody ever called the police on me... but that is because i didn't announce it to the world
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not at all. its not remotely animated either...just a slideshow of text. This written on a piece of paper, essentially, people would care. but thats exactly what this is...but under the illusion of a stamp that people put into their journal to make it seem like they care and that they are so supportive. Just because no one believes suicide is right doesnt mean we have to constantly remind everyone.
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I HAVE been depressed and I do have (borderline) aspergers among other things, and I'm quite paranoid. I've been scared to the point where I've gone into a short lived depression (Happy Tree Friends incident when I was 8... *shudder*) but I've always valued my life and I know that everyone around me values it too. Harming myself isn't just solving my problems, it's disappointing and hurting everyone else around me. If anyone feels suicidal the best thing to do is talk to someone, just anyone. It doesn't have to be a psychiatrist or a doctor, it could just be your mom or sibling. I support this stamp completely.
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exactly! even posting it here on this stamp should help!
thanks!
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Cheers, I agree whole-heartedly. I have lost friends to suicide, and just not been able to talk to other because of attempts and mutilation.
I can understand honour suicides in classic literature and stuff like that, but people that kill themselves just because so-and-so won't go out with them, their life isn't perfect, someone hates them, its just childish and petty. These people don't realize that the rest of us left behind have to live with the fact that maybe we could have prevented this.
and cutting. could you people be more childish, to need attention that bad you have to hurt yourself. feh, grow up.
I absolutely support this stamp.
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