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Do not Support
Published: 2008-09-19 19:49:09 +0000 UTC; Views: 18639; Favourites: 1100; Downloads: 146
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i dont support it because i almost tried it! i had inspiration for this stamp from this news article here news.deviantart.com/article/57...read it! it's very powerful, and very moving! it had me in tears by the time i had finished commenting on it! and the comment you can find right here and all the replies to it. comments.deviantart.com/2/5787...
let me know if you use it! so i can see it in action!!
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Oh my god. you people realize that the artist doesn't get to choose what get's a DD. i still have no clue what so ever of why this was chosen as a DD so stop discussing it here. if you dont like it. tell the proper people you can find it here FAQ #873: What do I do when I disapprove of a Daily Deviation feature?
and as for "lumping cutting and suicide together", what can i say... i'm sorry. i'm not going to change it now, and at the time it was what was going through my mind.
for the people who are saying stuff about how cutting can be good. well. i wont lie, my best friend used to cut. she did it to relieve stress. but from my personal standpoint, i know it isn't healthy, and it is something i am very glad i never did.
and if i was refering to assisted suicide i would have put that so please stop using that as an argument as well. i was talking about self suicide. like slitting your wrists or hanging yourself and so on.
any other haters out there... well i'm sorry you feel that way i am not here to change your feelings however.
******UPDATE******
I just uploaded an apology deviation. I feel it's necessary
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I understand, I'm just making a point. Yes, injury is pleasure for a great many people. Look it up, ever heard of guro? S&M? Bondage? People taking pleasure from pain.
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oh i have definatly heard of BDSM... not the guro though. :/
i happen to like the first two parts of BDSM... the BD and the DS. but the SM is out for me.
but that isn't slicing oneself open that is more like whips and spanking. and so on.
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No, but plenty of people cut themselves or burn themselves for sexual release. I myself used to burn myself, then moved to cutting, and I definitely enjoyed the feeling.
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yep... that is why they have candles for dripping. but i am personally not into that
and if you want to cut that is your choice but it is more damaging to your body then you should want. and i suggest (not force... suggest) that you find a safer way of getting feelings like that.
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Cutting yourself makes some happy, some others are happier without life's problems. So where's the difference?
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Could you elaborate? You're not really making any sense.
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I admire your courage in posting this, but your stamp feels like a bit of a cop-out to me--no one supports suicide or si, but we should all be supportive of people who are dealing with those issues. I wish that your work conveyed more of a message of kindness and encouragement than this outright rejection.
kudos to you once again, though, for your strong convictions
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i really can't figure this out. i said i dont support suicide nor attemtped suicide nor cutting yourself. so dont even think about it.
i did not say if you do this i will push you away. i said the actions. i do not support the actions. i really didn't think it was necessary to say that kind of thing though. and i'm not going to change it.
and thanks... i guess...
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I would never think of asking you to change your piece-as I've said, it's obviously something you feel very strongly about. I sometimes see people on dA talking about how cutting is stupid and done only for attention, and seeing it lumped together with suicide here put me on the defensive.
The link in your journal to "the real you," interested me, and so did finding out you are a transwoman. To use that example, if someone said to you that they supported YOU, but not your actions, how would you feel? Don't your actions as a transwoman define who you are? if you're wondering about my use of the that example--I'm gay and I've had people close to me say that they love me but don't accept, don't support my "actions" as a lesbian, as if I CHOSE to be such. And that shit hurts. So, please excuse me if I say that your stamp felt more like rejection than support. I'm not commenting on this to be mean or to belittle your work. I'm just trying to explain how easily someone who self-injures, or who has attempted suicide, could be hurt by this piece. I did not hope to hurt you in turn, and I apologize for that.
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honestly my best friend doesn't really agree with what i am planning. and yeah it hurts. but the fact that she is still going to support me is what matters.
my best friend used to cut, and while i am still not happy about that, i am here for her when she needs me, and i tell her when she is down she better not be cutting.
trust me i dont reject people. the only time i have ever rejected people is when they down right disrespect me in a extremly rude way. so I am not rejecting you. i'm sorry that other people have
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No, I could never believe someone whose identity is so misunderstood by society would ever reject anyone else. That was a big mistake on my part 
Thanks very much, and if I may say, good luck with your transition!
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well... i wasn't there for my friend when she cut... i didn't even know her when she was doing that. but now i am always there for her when she needs me.
i would of course stick with something i made.
and thank you... not many people wish me luck in that!
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Most welcome.
The Joker
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This would be useful for a "friend" of mine. I do not tolerate suicide attempts. I do not mind the "alienating" feeling of your stamp, and I actually support it * can't understand people trying to take off their lives and never will be able to *
As for the self-cutting, nothing more stupid than doing it for attention (and I still don't buy the 'doing it to overcome the emotional harm' bullshit).
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ya know i still have my doubts about cutting. but my friend said that it helped her. she doesn't do it any more... thank God... but she told me very much that it helped!
i personally dont see it as alienating... but apparently a lot of people do. and i hope that your 'friend' finds this stamp then!
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She actually saw this stamp, and thought I was "egoistic" and "schizofrenic" for my comment. (...) Maybe that's why my comment sounded so harsh. I just can't understand people like her and I find it odd that someone insults me because I wish her to stop attempting suicide and self cutting. Maybe that's why I'm so fed up with people with this problem, because of this one single case that's been lasting for years. And I don't think her self cutting helps her at all, I think she's quickly destroying herself.
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the thing i suggest to you then is just be there for her. when she looks like she is down. pull her aside and say something like. "ok, what's up? i see you look down and i'm worried about you" just put it in your own words. and if you know for a fact that something is up, dont let her get away with "nothing, dont be worried." when i was suicidal that is exactly what i had said. just be there for her. give her support when she needs it and when she falls help her up
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Believe me I tried that gazillion times. Sometimes it worked, and she said "oh, thanks for letting me see things clearer". She sounded more optimistic. But something makes me think she loves (I don't think this is the correct word) self pity and self hating and well, I'm not a specialist of the mind and after years of trying over and over I felt there was little I could do. I gave up. Do not worry about this anyway, I'm sorry for bringing my own case and I noticed there are tons of comments here and you are replying to them all. Just curious tho, when you were in those difficult times, could people around you make you feel better after ignoring the "nothing, don't be worried" words?
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some people made me feel worse because they were going about it the wrong way. but my best friend stayed on it. and made me talk.
Please do not give up. that is the absolute worse thing that you could do. i dont know what bothers your friend but if it was like me... not having people who cared about me in my life,...kinda...then giving up on them makes it ten times worse.
it's the cases that i can help that i feel good about... you didn't bother me in anyway. yeah i have a crud load of comments and replies to get to... but that is what DA is all about isn't it... a community at large?
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Well self cutting isn't exactly a bright idea if you're doing it for attention, but most people you'll never know that they've cut. Most will wear long sleeves, even in a desert, and that's how you know they aren't doing it for attention.
If it helps, I'm proof that people do hurt themselves to deal with emotional pain. It isn't bull, it's sad.
-Alika613
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Yes, sad indeed. This person I'm talking about says she is "different" because unlike the stereotypical emo she does not do it to get attention. However the very first thing she showed me when we met almost 5 years ago was her thighs and wrists cuts. So what can you tell me about it? Also, she wears slevless tops all the time, not caring if people see her cuts or not. I was so used to see them that I grew up ignoring them.
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Hmmn, yeah I can see how that's odd. I mean it could be that she's hoping somebody notices and helps her, but you'd probably know her better than me, haha.
I've personally never hid my scars, but then again I'm a bizarre woman who's proud of living past my attempts.
But wow, everybody is so different with something so personal.
-Alika
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As a survivor, I'm glad I lived long enough to be put on the right medication to deal with my diagnosed depression, even after over 7 attempts (I last counted several years ago, there have been many more though).
However, I support people's right to do with their body as they want. If you're going to die of a painful fight with cancer, I think you have the right to decide how to die. If your son died, I understand if you can't bear living.
Most people will regret it, but I don't see anything wrong with the people who won't regret it doing it. Though it's hard to make an informed decision about whether it's time to give up or not. I love life, and I hope others do to, but I can't blame you if you don't, and I punish you for the way you feel.
It's so complicated...
But if I had seen this before I'd "seen the light" I probably would have been terribly insulted. It's hard to say something if you haven't been there, and even if you have, everyone's experience is different.
It's sad, but when I was that close to death, I really wouldn't have cared what anyone thought. Even my parents' opinions about seeing me in the hospital barely shook me.
It doesn't matter how you feel about suicide so much, there are more to survivors than that. My happiest memories of those days was having my friend grab my wrist and roll his eyes, of having him laugh when I told him about my panic attack, of having him tell me over the phone that things were tough for him too, but he didn't want us to give up. Thank god he wasn't interested in the ethics or morals of my life, haha
When I was in the hospital, a woman visited me, and told me that my parents, and nobody else could completely understand me. She said that they wouldn't understand me, even if I tried to explain. She said I worked hard, that I had been the one to cut myself and take the pain, so nobody else had the right to take my scars away from me. But she told me it was okay, because I'd told someone.
I didn't want my father to cry, and ask why his daughter wanted to die before him. I wanted my best friend, and a complete stranger tell me that there was something wrong in the world, but it was okay because I was alive. I didn't want to be saved, or be talked to or about, or be kept from "lethal means" for my own good. I wanted to be allowed to be alone, wanted to be allowed to be depressed.
My guidance counselor laughed when I wore short sleeves in winter. He said I was rare, because most kids with cuts would wear long sleeves in summer. I was never ashamed though.
And I have gotten unbelievably off topic! Oh well, I like this deviation now because I can see what it's like to be depressed and what it's like not to be, but if you've never been both you can only try to understand.
-Alika613
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i've been both. but the time i was not depressed was over 12 years ago. so yeah. and i have been suicidal. only my way was different. if you read the article linked there, my way was far too similar to that!
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That article just hit me like a brick.... It's so sad yet poses a powerful message at the same time.
Thanks for sharing this stamp with all of us deviants here.
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your welcome! and thank you for being kind in your comment!
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you said it. i cannot stand for people doing that to themselves.
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I definitely agree with you. I have a few friends who have cut once or twice. One of them is my very best friend, and every time I see a scar anywhere on her my stomach churns. I'm trying everything to get her to stop. I have no idea what I would do if she bled to death.
I applaud you for getting yourself out of that habit and for making the stamp.
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i never cut... just so you know. i was suicidal. and i almost attempted.
but thanks!
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Such a Powerful Message. I thought of Suicide once. And Now I'm Very Grateful to be Alive.
I love this Stamp.
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Yeah.
It's good not to support you.
We need to help those who are going through it.
Not support what they are doing.
~ELLE~
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wait... what?
you are saying it's good not to support ME.
i agree though anyone going through it needs peoples support and help. so with that i agree with you. with not support me... not so much.
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You were being sarcastic in the stamp?
~ELLE~
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what makes you say that?
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Okay, I'm confused now, too.
You said you don't support cutting or suicide attempts.
I said it's not good to support those, but good to support the person who is going through it.
~ELLE~
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